"why the f is he playing hide n see in the back" 16:40 that's me I'm sorry i was trying to find you. I love you and cross's vids man it was a pleasure to play with yall
@@Bigsmoke-zg2ko The whole point is that it was a hidden quest. Destiny has done hidden quests in the past and they're often some of the best received because it takes a little thinking to solve. Is fun exploring and deducing clues
LMAOOO a weapon that literally stops recovery from shooting your teammate, a 0.6 TTK, GREAT RANGE lowkey and its automatic.. uh bro give og lord of wolves back for all i care just such a op primary is insane.
@@Ryiszz lmfao bruh i had NF when no1 else did and it was never like this... this gun is laughable 😂 with multiple even worse, multiple uses of the exotic perk.
@@bbyglo i did too, i had the gun in season 4, if you think current khvostov is a more powerful primary then by all means, please give me back pre nerf nf and watch that skyrocket to the top of trials boards😂
@@Ryiszz I didn't say anything about khvostov or red death. I said "140s and effort in the same sentence is wild." Some of the easiest to use weapons in the game dog. Khvostov and red death are too.
@@GageMasonlmao you tell me me a weapon that’s hard to use… there’s literally a skill gap in 140s… a bot will get out gunned 10 times using a 140v140.. at least with khvostov they have a chance cuz all they gotta do is aim and hold down the trigger…
@@JamieWeaver-i4x Again, I never said khvostov took effort lol. Just that 140s rly don't. Tbf no guns in this game rly require a ton of effort. I'd say tho guns that require effort would be 180hcs, scouts in close range, last word. This is all on mnk btw. Also, I'm not saying that anybody should be using anything else or shouldn't be using 140s, just that they don't take a ton of effort.
The fact that Trials is still going on even with the invis player/weapon bug says bout as much about the "Crucible Strike Team" as we already knew we_do_not_care.gif
Crazy idea. How about in 2024 with prismatic we just admit we all have broken abilities and all classes are great and broken and stop trying to say one class in particular is broken just because you die once. Sounds crazy I know. Peace is a scary thing
GOOD it stops people from circle jerking just like cloudstrike and graviton. I'm sick of people buttfucking eachother in gunfights. Stop hand holding and learn how to win your 1v1s
Genuine question. The only thing i can think of is my aim. But its an auto rifle, just aim and shoot lol but its weird to me that whenever i use it it takes half the clip to kill someone. I know im not hitting every bullet as a crit but whenever i go against this gun i swear i doe in 3 bullets. But i have to use damn the whole clip. Doesnt matter about the orb of power pick up l, theres no way im always going against someone who has the gun powered up everytime thats just not possible. But what is true os how fast i die. Vs when i use it. Its not really a skill issue even if i couldnt hit the broad side of a barn youd like to think by now i would have gotten a .00001 TTK myself like wtf its an auto just hold the trigger and aim in their direction it doesn't really need skill. Anyone else feel like the gun doesnt perform in your hands like it does whenever you battle against it!??
Too much hate in the world. Love all you Hunters and Warlocks. Is it me or did anyone else wondered how Frost could see or figure out where opponents were.
Gonna leave this on all the big pvp streamers so we can get this going... Bring No Land Beyond to D2! That thing was so much fun and as a recently returning player from a 7 yr hiatus, the game has gotten so boring with "Meta" weapons... Let's just have some guns that we can have some fun with even if we're not destroying everyone in the game with em!
8:44 khovsov almost melting Frost from that far is crazy. But apparently it only has 26m. Obviously that’s just damage fall off start but those bullets should be significantly weaker from that far. Especially from a weapon that’s so easy to use.
I got that invis bug a couple times today. Its really annoying for the people who have it as well because when you ADS your arms, gun, and the scope are all sparkly and shiny and you can't see anything through it even your reticule is hard to see.
@crazyadam9281 that's fair, I can only speak from experience, but I see so much more use out of desperado than kill clip and headseeker in my games. How are you liking the gun? I'm not a huge fan of 2 burst archetype of pulse, and I've had alot of duels I just couldn't win due to ttk.
I have a crazy zen moment desperado roll, it’s honestly super nice. Will def be my main pulse just because it doesn’t receive flinch and is mad consistent.
@crazyadam9281 then I urge you to try it on this when you do. Most pulses benefit far more from other damage perks, kill clip headseeker etc, but this 2 burst doesn't get a faster ttk with even kill clip up, just a tad more forgiving. And with an optimal ttk of .8, it really needs the extra bump to be competitive, especially when red death now exists again.
Hand cannon jiggle peak still wins out in the end, also, I feel like hunters with some shader that’s purple is what causes the invis glitch, sneaking suspicion idk
one claiming the pvp community ruins everything, how’s about that we’ll nerf? That wasn’t pvp, so just stop with the back and forth between pvp and pve getting things nerfed, truth is bungie isn’t doing a good job of separating the two sides as much as they have in the past. That’s not a community issue, that’s a bungie being lazy issue.
I'm a for a busted auto rifle pvp is riddled with annoying players so it's nice to have a brain dead gun instead of breaking my thumbs just to kill 1 person
The pvp people won’t get this nerfed… trials report will. Over a million users 😂 it’s gonna get nerfed. To the people saying “I don’t understand it’s perfectly balanced.” Yep that’s why 20 percent of people are using it in trials 😂 it nerfed itself.
How is the total complaining about the auto sn one of the two guys in the thumbnail is using it also ? 😂😂 no hate to y’all just sounds dumb making a title about the gun but someone you play with an have in you’re thumbnail has it on also
Heck yeah! As we can see, tons of ppl using khvostov cause of they have no freaking aim and no healthy 2 hands too. Guys, play this game like a giga chad not like a "kpop girl".
Ironically went 11-0 when I took khvostov off lmao, undeniably the best auto in the game but I still think pvp has had bigger threats like immortal and that went untouched for a good bit
I'm so fucking angry with this game last game before I go flawless and I get dumbass migee and I lose he had 0.6kd he died more then he helped its like bungie nows that I can't have the new items it's like summoner all over again
"why the f is he playing hide n see in the back" 16:40 that's me I'm sorry i was trying to find you. I love you and cross's vids man it was a pleasure to play with yall
PvP community is going to get this gun nerfed no question…
it does need a nerf in pvp, its pretty decent in pve tho
@@zonkaysyea and I agree but I really hope they balance it separately. This and Red Death are insane.
Why?
Probably true but I feel like it's pretty balanced. It's just fun to use
Haven't played PVP at all yet. Are we talking Hard Light esq ping pong rounds around corners, off ceilings etc?
"If you're a warlock, you just hate yourself." As a warlock main, can confirm.
accurate lol
With the amount of steps that went into getting the gun you bet trials is going to see it.
It’s not even that bad to get it. I only just started the expansion because I’ve been busy and already have it
@@shadowarrow1998tripping it’s pretty involved to get
@@shadowarrow1998it’s terrible to get. I didn’t even know how to get it. Had to look it up. You shouldn’t have to look something like that up…
@@Bigsmoke-zg2ko The whole point is that it was a hidden quest. Destiny has done hidden quests in the past and they're often some of the best received because it takes a little thinking to solve. Is fun exploring and deducing clues
@@Shiverskillwe’re vets
This video summarized:
"im gonna punch this guy"
"Im dead"
The Aztecross frost duo gotta be my favorite, love the videos y’all put out
Anything that makes people put down conditional finality is good with me. Finally a metta shift.
LMAOOO a weapon that literally stops recovery from shooting your teammate, a 0.6 TTK, GREAT RANGE lowkey and its automatic.. uh bro give og lord of wolves back for all i care just such a op primary is insane.
@@bbyglobro doesn’t remember how good recluse not forgotten and prometheus lens were
@@Ryiszz lmfao bruh i had NF when no1 else did and it was never like this... this gun is laughable 😂 with multiple even worse, multiple uses of the exotic perk.
@@bbyglo i did too, i had the gun in season 4, if you think current khvostov is a more powerful primary then by all means, please give me back pre nerf nf and watch that skyrocket to the top of trials boards😂
Shotguns are the easiest special to counter, shotgun apes are free kills
Watching 140 gameplay is tough. So much effort required for each kill. Props to frost for sticking it out
140 and effort in the same sentence is wild lol.
@@GageMasonsays this while khvostov and red death have 10x as many combined trials kills this week as rose and ace😂
@@Ryiszz I didn't say anything about khvostov or red death. I said "140s and effort in the same sentence is wild." Some of the easiest to use weapons in the game dog. Khvostov and red death are too.
@@GageMasonlmao you tell me me a weapon that’s hard to use… there’s literally a skill gap in 140s… a bot will get out gunned 10 times using a 140v140.. at least with khvostov they have a chance cuz all they gotta do is aim and hold down the trigger…
@@JamieWeaver-i4x Again, I never said khvostov took effort lol. Just that 140s rly don't. Tbf no guns in this game rly require a ton of effort. I'd say tho guns that require effort would be 180hcs, scouts in close range, last word. This is all on mnk btw. Also, I'm not saying that anybody should be using anything else or shouldn't be using 140s, just that they don't take a ton of effort.
The range on shiver strike is nuts. I love it.
The fact that Trials is still going on even with the invis player/weapon bug says bout as much about the "Crucible Strike Team" as we already knew
we_do_not_care.gif
The invis glitch is less of an issue than bots with fusion rifles and ability spam.
Restarting your game works for a little bit but it’s definitely an issue. Typical Bungie
@@Luketheduke12the invis glitch isn’t solely based on the pvp strike team… its a glitch they need to fix for the whole game it happens in pve too
@@Hopeuhaveagooddaybro. I never said it was
@@Luketheduke12 whoops more meant the original comment
22:00 my man got a collateral lol
So true about what you said about Warlocks at the start of Game 2. We don't even like ourselves.
Well at least now I know it's not a problem on my end that gear doesn't load, people is transparent and game in general feels slower
5:30 you got heckin bamboozled my boi
People have been 2 bursting the shit out of me all weekend with red death and some no time's sprinkled in. It's pain.
The Elden ring anger. I felt that
I hate it because now it's 100% getting nerfed 😢
Anything that shits on handcannon shotty users makes me happy. Hand cannons need to be the worst weapon type unless you have great aim.
hey me and my buddy Hallo are in this! fun match even tho we got destroyed by y’all 😂
Gotta be cool to see a video you are in by random choice.
What’s the power level cap because I noticed I’m not doing the damage I’m supposed too and I’m 1990
Crazy idea. How about in 2024 with prismatic we just admit we all have broken abilities and all classes are great and broken and stop trying to say one class in particular is broken just because you die once. Sounds crazy I know. Peace is a scary thing
18:15 may as well add a 3rd bEaUtIfUl
It’s a pretty good exotic with Strand Warlock (Weavers Trance)
6:46 I'm a warlock main and whoever said that in chat and when frost said it (you right 👍)
31:12 pause…
Fist to Fist'em but it didn't sound like that. LOL!!!
The 'K' is a brain-dead gun and destroys team group shooting.
GOOD it stops people from circle jerking just like cloudstrike and graviton. I'm sick of people buttfucking eachother in gunfights.
Stop hand holding and learn how to win your 1v1s
What hand cannon is frost using in this vid?
rose
@@quentinb734 thanks
What’s the shader on your hand cannon?
It's from the darkness subclass shader bundle he's using the stasis one
why is Zk not doing trials with you guys no more???
He’s right about the Titans and hunters hating each other
31:03 the way his ragdoll slapped against the wall lmao
Genuine question. The only thing i can think of is my aim. But its an auto rifle, just aim and shoot lol but its weird to me that whenever i use it it takes half the clip to kill someone. I know im not hitting every bullet as a crit but whenever i go against this gun i swear i doe in 3 bullets. But i have to use damn the whole clip. Doesnt matter about the orb of power pick up l, theres no way im always going against someone who has the gun powered up everytime thats just not possible. But what is true os how fast i die. Vs when i use it. Its not really a skill issue even if i couldnt hit the broad side of a barn youd like to think by now i would have gotten a .00001 TTK myself like wtf its an auto just hold the trigger and aim in their direction it doesn't really need skill. Anyone else feel like the gun doesnt perform in your hands like it does whenever you battle against it!??
Frobo on Titan is pure Dopamine.
Does kvostov perk procs on clones?
Ifrobo can you ask BUNGIE to buff the enemies shooting khvostov and outbreak cuz I can’t hear shit when they shoot at me
21:52 I was the core but what’s the bug I didn’t know I was using a bug lmao
Welp, i got cooked, GGs Frosty! Was still learning warlock and claw/freeze melee seemed fun!
Too much hate in the world. Love all you Hunters and Warlocks. Is it me or did anyone else wondered how Frost could see or figure out where opponents were.
"I'll punch thebshit of out of him idgf" Spoken like a true titan 😂 but damn that Lance pick up buff goes hard 😅
Warlocks with speakers is in every match Lmao XD
Gonna leave this on all the big pvp streamers so we can get this going... Bring No Land Beyond to D2! That thing was so much fun and as a recently returning player from a 7 yr hiatus, the game has gotten so boring with "Meta" weapons... Let's just have some guns that we can have some fun with even if we're not destroying everyone in the game with em!
8:44 khovsov almost melting Frost from that far is crazy. But apparently it only has 26m. Obviously that’s just damage fall off start but those bullets should be significantly weaker from that far. Especially from a weapon that’s so easy to use.
Bro that was pretty much 26m
That was not that far
Find a nice long range pulse rifle and this gun is pretty easy to handle. If you out range it you're fine, pick your fights.
As a warlock main... I do indeed hate myself.
I got that invis bug a couple times today. Its really annoying for the people who have it as well because when you ADS your arms, gun, and the scope are all sparkly and shiny and you can't see anything through it even your reticule is hard to see.
Whoever made this perk should be fired it’s beyond annoying
Me trying to use other guns, gets literally shredded by khvostov lwdt and right. Sighs... *switches to khvostov* still gets shredded by khvostov
frost can you tell my mom to unground me so i can play trials ?
@@cuda010got grounded a week ago for not “pausing” my trials game 😭
Still a game in the long run. Had someone yell at his mom during a King's Fall raid. We stopped so that he can go respect his mother.
@@MyCupOfTea101😭😭😭
Can u do a pvp hunter build
Seen 2 dawnblades @Josh in game
The supef changes are awesome
Love how like able of a guy FB is. Would love to see a flawless run with wallah.
They have played trials together before
I think they need to make special ammo more available to combat it people can use snipers
Thanks for the content BehemothBolt have a great weekend bro
!shader (anyone know?)
Yoooooo, that adept aesha's care isn't half bad, desperado actually lowers it's optimal ttk
It's ok if it's all you have managed to get so far.
@crazyadam9281 that's fair, I can only speak from experience, but I see so much more use out of desperado than kill clip and headseeker in my games. How are you liking the gun? I'm not a huge fan of 2 burst archetype of pulse, and I've had alot of duels I just couldn't win due to ttk.
I have a crazy zen moment desperado roll, it’s honestly super nice. Will def be my main pulse just because it doesn’t receive flinch and is mad consistent.
@@chucklesoffun1740 I haven't got the gun yet, I was just going off of my experience with desperado on other pulse rifles.
@crazyadam9281 then I urge you to try it on this when you do. Most pulses benefit far more from other damage perks, kill clip headseeker etc, but this 2 burst doesn't get a faster ttk with even kill clip up, just a tad more forgiving. And with an optimal ttk of .8, it really needs the extra bump to be competitive, especially when red death now exists again.
Hand cannon jiggle peak still wins out in the end, also, I feel like hunters with some shader that’s purple is what causes the invis glitch, sneaking suspicion idk
Frost I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE the big dick energy that just irradiates outa you when you shiver strike.10 outa 10 ign. There was enough water.
Auto rifle metas have always sucked. Get this gun outa here (for pvp, please leave it unchanged in PVE).
Imagine beeing that good that bungie has to make players transparent for you to try and balance thw games
OOOPS, all khvostov!
I wish I could go flawless. I do pretty good in control
It’s a team play meta
Trying to bring Conditional Finality back to #1 are we 😏
Nice card!
BehemothBolt is becoming the reason I watch
one claiming the pvp community ruins everything, how’s about that we’ll nerf? That wasn’t pvp, so just stop with the back and forth between pvp and pve getting things nerfed, truth is bungie isn’t doing a good job of separating the two sides as much as they have in the past. That’s not a community issue, that’s a bungie being lazy issue.
Even in the Glitches, Warlocks can't get anything good Lol
went in with Conditional and Elsie's, came out after 2 cards with an adept roll that has Arrowhead/Ricochet/Under Pressure/Headseeker/Range MW
Now that… is pretty frickin sigma
live this 2 streamer combination
If your a warlock you just wanna force push titans and hunters
Too bad my quest is bugged. Yay.
Damn wallah being abit toxic at the end
I'm a for a busted auto rifle pvp is riddled with annoying players so it's nice to have a brain dead gun instead of breaking my thumbs just to kill 1 person
Fuck this gun lmao
Simple, don't team shoot in Trials. Problem solved
Frost can you carry me in the Vault of Glass pls
The pvp people won’t get this nerfed… trials report will. Over a million users 😂 it’s gonna get nerfed. To the people saying “I don’t understand it’s perfectly balanced.” Yep that’s why 20 percent of people are using it in trials 😂 it nerfed itself.
Conditional was more popular
It's getting nerfed because of handcannon losers
Invis bug is so annoying
The new Titan vois super is the best new super hands down. That thing pulls from so far and kills through walls, its broken.
I like red death better.
Dont worry about it. You streamers will get it nerfed soon. Just keep making whiny videos.
Kavostov and red death are balanced fine, I dont think either one is op. It seems the only issue is that Bungie is encouraging camping woth this meta.
BehemothBolt > BehemothB*** IMO
How is the total complaining about the auto sn one of the two guys in the thumbnail is using it also ? 😂😂 no hate to y’all just sounds dumb making a title about the gun but someone you play with an have in you’re thumbnail has it on also
I think it makes sense when the title says it's everywhere, not sure if the title has been changed since this comment though
He used the helicopter chest piece for dr cause it will proc resist in pvp he just used it while much too weak
Heck yeah! As we can see, tons of ppl using khvostov cause of they have no freaking aim and no healthy 2 hands too. Guys, play this game like a giga chad not like a "kpop girl".
Ironically went 11-0 when I took khvostov off lmao, undeniably the best auto in the game but I still think pvp has had bigger threats like immortal and that went untouched for a good bit
This is the worst pvp has been in a long time
I'm so fucking angry with this game last game before I go flawless and I get dumbass migee and I lose he had 0.6kd he died more then he helped its like bungie nows that I can't have the new items it's like summoner all over again
Not first
Noooo dont nerf it bruh💀
No one asked lil bro
Can I be the third 😂
First
Pay to win, this noob canon is for low skill pvp player
Titans time?? It’s always titans time. Most op class in pvp.
Lmfao no
I can't stand Aztecross his voiceeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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He has a very listenable voice bro what you on about
????
Cross got that Rizz.
I have a personal timer for how long itll take Frost to diss Hunters ✋🥸🤚 gosh dark Titan main bain of my existence
Send that to TDT. *claps* DON’T BUNCH UP
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