I think the scenery graphics are better in Forza Motorsport because they look more natural. I think the car modeling in GT7 is really beautiful. In the end, both are good.
I have Forza Motorsport on the Steam store, but I recognize the beauty of GT7, its car modeling details that come closest to perfection, the precision of the engine sounds, the classic nostalgia, it's as if GT7 were a more elegant game, I wish I could play it on PC, Sony will probably only release it when its successor is close to being released. I'm being honest, it's just what I think, if you don't think the same way I won't take away your reasons!
Great video! Please make a comparison of Road Atlanta next. As for this comparison, both cars look so close that I couldn't even tell which game was which in the thumbnail (before seeing the watermarks)
Os dois jogos tem propostas diferentes. Enquanto o Forza é feito para o jogador casual, o GT7 pensa em alguém que quer algo mais próximo de uma simulação (que fique claro: GT7 tá longe de ser um simulador). Essa câmera externa é a maior prova disso. Parece que no GT7 quem faz a curva é o asfalto.
- For people complaining about colors : Have y'all ever been outside or in the real world? In real life, there is basically no limit to how saturated colors look whereas the saturation in games is fundamentally technically limited. As a photographer, it does seem like GT7 has some sort of warming yellow/green filter which resembles the look of classical cinema film from both Kodak and Fujifilm. It seems like GT7 goes for peak green like early season with healthy amounts of rain whereas FM8 seems to go for brownish later dry season which also exists. The previously mentioned filter in GT7 also partly creates the sky color, which appears to me closer in tone to the real sky, while FM8 is closer in terms of saturation. Overall, it would seems like FM8 would rather opts for some kind of warming chocolate filter with strong oranges/browns (greenery) and purple (sky). None of them are perfectly accurate and both of them have flaws. GT7 goes for a classic film/photographic look that is aestheticly pleasing to many people but to me that also seems like is pretty appealing and referential to photographers especially with the colors and the bloom effect on highlights. Also, for those complaining about the saturation, you can absolutely tone it down in game so the criticism that "the game looks oversaturated" is basically invalid. Forza goes for a look that seems pretty original and audacious to me. As someone who consumes a lot of photography content, I rarely see people going the "chocolate" route. It's a fairly rare filter and most people are used to the classic greenish film look rather than that and as random and weird as it seems to me, I actually have to applaud the devs for going that way, though it can also seems like they don't always quite know what they're doing. - For the lighting : Again both games seems to have different approaches to lighting. GT7 goes for a classic cinema/photographic look prioritising highlights with crushed shadows, very reminiscent of early film look that had bad light sensitivity so it was often barely exposed enough resulting in crushed shadows with low details. Or even slide film that was widely used in journalism that was sentitive to highlights and that would often create this very saturated looking sky, tho with a more purple tone. It seems to me again like the look of the game is very much designed in a referential manner that is appealing to photographers, which would be 100% coherent with the very elitist approach of the game (I also believe the director of the game Kazunori Yamauchi is a photographer himself). It comes off to me as both cheesy and pretentious, yet very pleasant to those who are appealed by this actually quite popular and widely represented aesthetic. Forza goes for a more logical and typical to videogames approach of maximizing details, which leads to slightly blown out or lighter highlights. It is very functional and can be seen in most other racing game like PC2 and ACC, but also appears a bit "barbaric" and "unrefined" (for those purists who hold the highlights as sacred, which are somewhat inevitably butchered in this approach). - As much as I personally enjoy GT7's look, those trees are idiotic looking at best. However, tracks are also replicated to the treeline level, which is absurd and imo commands a huge amount of respect. Forza mostly goes for a "vibes first" approach, with tracks that feels nice and alive but aren't quite accurate representations of what the actual tracks look like (that and the ridiculous FOV that makes for wonky environments but a genuinely good sense of speed; you know, trade-offs). They aren't too bothered about track accuracy, but will trade it for "feels and vibes", which is definitely not an invalid choice, contrary to what some GT7 fanboys think. - Sounds : GT7's road cars mostly sounds like garbage with the stock exhaust equipped, however, you can make most of them sound amazing just by equiping a better exhaust system, including the Huracan in this video which can absolutely be made to sound glorious given a proper racing exhaust. I believe Forza cars already sound almost (and sometimes already way too) insane out of the box, which sadly leaves little place for adjustment if required because god knows they do not nail every car sounds... Better sounds off the bat (FM8) vs better sounds in the end (GT7) is the choice people get to make in the end. Hope my comment could give people some insight into the choices that were made in these games and allow them to make better criticism in the future instead of just going for the easy "GT7 too saturated" or "FM8 too desaturated" "looks like trash". Both games were obviously made very differently with different intent and approach and should be criticized with those in mind rather than on the basis of pure aesthetical preferences, which are destined and determined to never be resolved. ✌ Edit : Wording
@@nihilityjoey And to me the textures are off, the sky is way too purple and the FOV makes everything looks stupid 🤷♂️. None of these characteristics are "lifelike" and that's okay, it's a actually a videogame, not real life and these are my preferences, not some sort of absolute truth I hold on to and go on and yap about under every GT7 vs FM8 video. I see plenty of flaws in the idea that FM8 "looks more realistic" that I have explained in my post. Glad you enjoy it your way! ✌
Stop doing drugs man. You are hurting yourself. You keep posting this nonsense under every GT7 vs FM video on YT. The sad part is.. that it looks like you actually belive what you say....
So your argument for forza looking better is bc you can see the car's interior from the exterior (which doesn't make a damn sense since it's the same in gt7 and every racing game) and that the track is better bc of the game's washed out color palette? Damn, nice "built from the ground up" title you got there m8.
Why are people seriously still trying to defend Forza? With each game it’s just continually gotten worse. That game has had one of the biggest fall off’s in any console racing game. “Built from the ground up”.
This channel is full of forza fanboys its crazy. Gt7 wins this one hands down forza just cant match gt car detail. The gt7 huracan could sound a bit less muffled through,
Had to be said, This is one of the few occasions where Forza actually wins. Sound, car model and environment. GT7 colours look almost arcade like here for whatever reason.
@@SixPathsOfJinforza dosent win on the car model, forget that buddy. Their overall more detail going on gt7. Neither of the games get the sound dialed in perfectly, gt7 is goo muffled, fm sounds decent during revs when it standing still but when driving the sounds gets quite off and shifting is terrible, its way to slow campared to the real thing, gt7 get that part more right, Fm has always had terrible shifting. Specially for cars that use auto. The sounds did go downhill after Mike Caviezel stop working on fm. He is coming back to turn 10 now maybe now he can fix the terrible sounds in fm, Yes fm has some good sounds on some cars, but majority is quite bad sadly, and fm was games thst nailed the sound all the way up to fm6, then they started to go downhill with fm7 and even worse with fm 23. And after fm6 where what Mike Caviezel stop working for forza and thats where the sound got downgraded, He started worked for gran turismo and the sounds was massivly improved with gt sport and carried even better with gt7, Mike Caviezel left pd in 2022. And even by now in 2024 gt has as good car sounds with the updated cars in updates as when he left, so i guess pd has learned from he recording methods. Turn 10 clearly forgot on how to do car sounds when he left despite being at turn 10 for 10 years. It has not been looking good for the new fm at all, and it might be the very last game we ever see from turn 10. Its pretty clear they are working with limited budget, fm was never as sucessfull as gt, but this looks even worse than previous titles in both player count and sold copies, witch might also explain why gt7 despite some flaws still getting strong sales and big player Numbers even 2 years later, some off that is that many people have swithed to gt7 from fm, because of how dissapointing thst game has been. And it might have cost turn 10 big time,
Nah something is way off with the sound model in gt7 and the way the audio bounces off the Rev limiter it's an issue going back generations and you know distinctly it's GT. The way the camera moves makes it look at odd while driving in 3rd person and sense of speed isn't there. And lighting model on Forza looks far superior and I got to say in this case the huracan model in game on the exterior and interior looks better and sounds far far superior more genuine to the real deal.
Go to a track a listen to the cars and you'll find they sounds more like Forza's with the reverb maybe not all sections of the track are like that but that is just a different approach they took
Are the people actually defending FM? Right, so they actually like low-poly models, and not properly scanned (in fact modelled cause there is no way a laser scan does that) over an actual proper racing game
Remember when this used to be the other way? You can't expect forza to rescan 600+ cars every year same way gt won't do it. It took them like 3 games to have the models updated
@@SuperMYutu Get your eyes checked. In this video the Huracan looks more detailed in Forza. That model was scanned in 2014 and still looks better than GT7 lmao. And GT7 can be called many things except a proper racing game. It works well as a photomode and replay simulator, but the actual racing is bad.
@@SuperMYutu look it up, in past games gt used to call some car "premium" over other that was a fancy way of saying the car was recently scanned and it had Moore detail but either way I honestly feel like this more of sony vs xbox and forza being direct competitor because I don't see anybody complaining about Assetto Corsa and Iracing and those game have outdated graphics
@@FedericoFroebel-dw4je actual racing is bad? Have you ever played any forza title? I have, I even bought several times Forza games I know what I'm talking about
Forzas lighting and graphics and stuff that you see on the screen is amazing way more detail than gt7 gt only wins with car models but sounds like hot ass
@@FedericoFroebel-dw4jenah gt7 still wins better graphics with better car models and interiors and obviously more realistic engine sounds(they are more accurate rather than loud)
@@amitsinha3063 wrong again. Just look how the car interiors are more detailed and visible through the rear windshield in Forza, than GT7. The circuit looks better in Forza. And if you think that GT7 sound is "accurate" you haven't heard how an Huracan sounds irl. GT7 has this horrible habit of muting all the car sounds.
GT7 looks better, no doubt, when it comes to detail. People complain that the colors are too saturated. If you think so, there is an option to turn it down, so no complaining. GT7 environment sounds are better than Forza. This is even more noticeable with a good surround sound system. Forza does better, though, when passing objects like poles or overheads or bridges. Forza needs to tone down the engine sounds. The sound doesn't seem to come from your car. It just seems as though the sound is just there. And my gawd, can we stop with the flamethrower exhaust? It's ridiculous. With GT7 I actually prefer the shifting sounds before the last update. All in all, both games are not perfect, and that's fine they were created by humans, and we are not perfect, no game is. But I get more satisfaction from GT7 it feels better. I can take corners faster in GT7 when compared to Forza. I feel as though you have to slow down far too much in Forza because the car doesn't turn enough. And if Forza, you still have the same turning animation from the driver. In GT7 you noticed the driver checking his mirror, especially when a car is on his tail or rolling alongside. You get none of that in Forza. You also see how the grass shifts as the cars fly by. You also don't get that in Forza. Next, let's get a replay comparison.
@amitsinha3063, you are the fan boy here. Man, GT7 takes a lot of artistic desition. Meanwhile, forza uses RTX, simulating the path of light so is not that gt7 has better graphics it just has more saturated colors and pronounce shadows and extra glare. Still looks amazing
Va dormir fanboy de pacotille aveugle qui défend cette horreur.. GT7 c'est un bijoux technique graphisme GT7 écrase cette merde dans tous les domaines.
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I think the scenery graphics are better in Forza Motorsport because they look more natural. I think the car modeling in GT7 is really beautiful. In the end, both are good.
Forza Motorsport 5 on scenery graphics is way more high detailed.
I have Forza Motorsport on the Steam store, but I recognize the beauty of GT7, its car modeling details that come closest to perfection, the precision of the engine sounds, the classic nostalgia, it's as if GT7 were a more elegant game, I wish I could play it on PC, Sony will probably only release it when its successor is close to being released. I'm being honest, it's just what I think, if you don't think the same way I won't take away your reasons!
stop this bullshit, GT7 IS BAD FCK
GT7 both on PS4 & 5 are equally fantastic.
I love Forza but GT just looks better graphically , although I like the Forza Camera more
Great video! Please make a comparison of Road Atlanta next. As for this comparison, both cars look so close that I couldn't even tell which game was which in the thumbnail (before seeing the watermarks)
Thanks! Will do :)
Os dois jogos tem propostas diferentes. Enquanto o Forza é feito para o jogador casual, o GT7 pensa em alguém que quer algo mais próximo de uma simulação (que fique claro: GT7 tá longe de ser um simulador). Essa câmera externa é a maior prova disso. Parece que no GT7 quem faz a curva é o asfalto.
GT7 still is far superior than FM8.
- For people complaining about colors : Have y'all ever been outside or in the real world? In real life, there is basically no limit to how saturated colors look whereas the saturation in games is fundamentally technically limited. As a photographer, it does seem like GT7 has some sort of warming yellow/green filter which resembles the look of classical cinema film from both Kodak and Fujifilm. It seems like GT7 goes for peak green like early season with healthy amounts of rain whereas FM8 seems to go for brownish later dry season which also exists. The previously mentioned filter in GT7 also partly creates the sky color, which appears to me closer in tone to the real sky, while FM8 is closer in terms of saturation. Overall, it would seems like FM8 would rather opts for some kind of warming chocolate filter with strong oranges/browns (greenery) and purple (sky). None of them are perfectly accurate and both of them have flaws. GT7 goes for a classic film/photographic look that is aestheticly pleasing to many people but to me that also seems like is pretty appealing and referential to photographers especially with the colors and the bloom effect on highlights. Also, for those complaining about the saturation, you can absolutely tone it down in game so the criticism that "the game looks oversaturated" is basically invalid. Forza goes for a look that seems pretty original and audacious to me. As someone who consumes a lot of photography content, I rarely see people going the "chocolate" route. It's a fairly rare filter and most people are used to the classic greenish film look rather than that and as random and weird as it seems to me, I actually have to applaud the devs for going that way, though it can also seems like they don't always quite know what they're doing.
- For the lighting : Again both games seems to have different approaches to lighting. GT7 goes for a classic cinema/photographic look prioritising highlights with crushed shadows, very reminiscent of early film look that had bad light sensitivity so it was often barely exposed enough resulting in crushed shadows with low details. Or even slide film that was widely used in journalism that was sentitive to highlights and that would often create this very saturated looking sky, tho with a more purple tone. It seems to me again like the look of the game is very much designed in a referential manner that is appealing to photographers, which would be 100% coherent with the very elitist approach of the game (I also believe the director of the game Kazunori Yamauchi is a photographer himself). It comes off to me as both cheesy and pretentious, yet very pleasant to those who are appealed by this actually quite popular and widely represented aesthetic. Forza goes for a more logical and typical to videogames approach of maximizing details, which leads to slightly blown out or lighter highlights. It is very functional and can be seen in most other racing game like PC2 and ACC, but also appears a bit "barbaric" and "unrefined" (for those purists who hold the highlights as sacred, which are somewhat inevitably butchered in this approach).
- As much as I personally enjoy GT7's look, those trees are idiotic looking at best. However, tracks are also replicated to the treeline level, which is absurd and imo commands a huge amount of respect. Forza mostly goes for a "vibes first" approach, with tracks that feels nice and alive but aren't quite accurate representations of what the actual tracks look like (that and the ridiculous FOV that makes for wonky environments but a genuinely good sense of speed; you know, trade-offs). They aren't too bothered about track accuracy, but will trade it for "feels and vibes", which is definitely not an invalid choice, contrary to what some GT7 fanboys think.
- Sounds : GT7's road cars mostly sounds like garbage with the stock exhaust equipped, however, you can make most of them sound amazing just by equiping a better exhaust system, including the Huracan in this video which can absolutely be made to sound glorious given a proper racing exhaust. I believe Forza cars already sound almost (and sometimes already way too) insane out of the box, which sadly leaves little place for adjustment if required because god knows they do not nail every car sounds... Better sounds off the bat (FM8) vs better sounds in the end (GT7) is the choice people get to make in the end.
Hope my comment could give people some insight into the choices that were made in these games and allow them to make better criticism in the future instead of just going for the easy "GT7 too saturated" or "FM8 too desaturated" "looks like trash". Both games were obviously made very differently with different intent and approach and should be criticized with those in mind rather than on the basis of pure aesthetical preferences, which are destined and determined to never be resolved. ✌
Edit : Wording
Forza Motorsport looks more life like. To me that's as simple as it gets.
Bro, this comment is the pure definition of "aint readin allat"
@@coolgas456 You are free not to read it, though thanks for the comment! ✌
@@nihilityjoey And to me the textures are off, the sky is way too purple and the FOV makes everything looks stupid 🤷♂️. None of these characteristics are "lifelike" and that's okay, it's a actually a videogame, not real life and these are my preferences, not some sort of absolute truth I hold on to and go on and yap about under every GT7 vs FM8 video. I see plenty of flaws in the idea that FM8 "looks more realistic" that I have explained in my post. Glad you enjoy it your way! ✌
Forza looks better.
You can actually see the car's interior through the rear windshield in Forza. And as always: Forza has the best looking circuit.
Stop doing drugs man. You are hurting yourself. You keep posting this nonsense under every GT7 vs FM video on YT. The sad part is.. that it looks like you actually belive what you say....
Jamais cette merde de Forza et supérieure a GT7.. Désolé GT7 écrase cette merde dans tous les domaines.
So your argument for forza looking better is bc you can see the car's interior from the exterior (which doesn't make a damn sense since it's the same in gt7 and every racing game) and that the track is better bc of the game's washed out color palette? Damn, nice "built from the ground up" title you got there m8.
Why are people seriously still trying to defend Forza? With each game it’s just continually gotten worse. That game has had one of the biggest fall off’s in any console racing game. “Built from the ground up”.
This channel is full of forza fanboys its crazy. Gt7 wins this one hands down forza just cant match gt car detail.
The gt7 huracan could sound a bit less muffled through,
Had to be said, This is one of the few occasions where Forza actually wins. Sound, car model and environment. GT7 colours look almost arcade like here for whatever reason.
@@SixPathsOfJinforza dosent win on the car model, forget that buddy. Their overall more detail going on gt7. Neither of the games get the sound dialed in perfectly, gt7 is goo muffled, fm sounds decent during revs when it standing still but when driving the sounds gets quite off and shifting is terrible, its way to slow campared to the real thing, gt7 get that part more right,
Fm has always had terrible shifting. Specially for cars that use auto.
The sounds did go downhill after Mike Caviezel stop working on fm.
He is coming back to turn 10 now maybe now he can fix the terrible sounds in fm,
Yes fm has some good sounds on some cars, but majority is quite bad sadly, and fm was games thst nailed the sound all the way up to fm6, then they started to go downhill with fm7 and even worse with fm 23.
And after fm6 where what Mike Caviezel stop working for forza and thats where the sound got downgraded,
He started worked for gran turismo and the sounds was massivly improved with gt sport and carried even better with gt7, Mike Caviezel left pd in 2022. And even by now in 2024 gt has as good car sounds with the updated cars in updates as when he left, so i guess pd has learned from he recording methods.
Turn 10 clearly forgot on how to do car sounds when he left despite being at turn 10 for 10 years.
It has not been looking good for the new fm at all, and it might be the very last game we ever see from turn 10. Its pretty clear they are working with limited budget,
fm was never as sucessfull as gt, but this looks even worse than previous titles in both player count and sold copies, witch might also explain why gt7 despite some flaws still getting strong sales and big player Numbers even 2 years later, some off that is that many people have swithed to gt7 from fm, because of how dissapointing thst game has been. And it might have cost turn 10 big time,
Car design and presentation on GT have no rivals...
Nah something is way off with the sound model in gt7 and the way the audio bounces off the Rev limiter it's an issue going back generations and you know distinctly it's GT. The way the camera moves makes it look at odd while driving in 3rd person and sense of speed isn't there. And lighting model on Forza looks far superior and I got to say in this case the huracan model in game on the exterior and interior looks better and sounds far far superior more genuine to the real deal.
@@howiekearney I know some people dislike the fixed camera (you can change that in options) but it is like that for precision driving
The audio from FM8 sounds so bad... why?
@@Tritonal92 it actually sounds real. GT7 mutes the sound of this car (and every car in the game)
Go to a track a listen to the cars and you'll find they sounds more like Forza's with the reverb maybe not all sections of the track are like that but that is just a different approach they took
It doesn't gt7 sounds bad
Forza looks miles better finally
Forza has better textures and color palette looks realistic.
No firebird no buy..lol.
In every little piece fm2023 is too much better than gt7 train simulator
Les couleurs sont plus vive dans gt7 fm paraît un peu pâle...
I’m gonna have to give the edge to Cora on this one. Sounds slightly better but GT looks better
Are the people actually defending FM? Right, so they actually like low-poly models, and not properly scanned (in fact modelled cause there is no way a laser scan does that) over an actual proper racing game
Remember when this used to be the other way? You can't expect forza to rescan 600+ cars every year same way gt won't do it. It took them like 3 games to have the models updated
@@LYG4F I don't :)
@@SuperMYutu Get your eyes checked. In this video the Huracan looks more detailed in Forza. That model was scanned in 2014 and still looks better than GT7 lmao. And GT7 can be called many things except a proper racing game. It works well as a photomode and replay simulator, but the actual racing is bad.
@@SuperMYutu look it up, in past games gt used to call some car "premium" over other that was a fancy way of saying the car was recently scanned and it had Moore detail but either way I honestly feel like this more of sony vs xbox and forza being direct competitor because I don't see anybody complaining about Assetto Corsa and Iracing and those game have outdated graphics
@@FedericoFroebel-dw4je actual racing is bad? Have you ever played any forza title? I have, I even bought several times Forza games I know what I'm talking about
why are so many forza fanboys here
@@amitsinha3063 Because Forza is great
@@M-hq9xz forza Motorsport is definitely not great specially when compared to gt7 lmao
@@amitsinha3063 you're just mad because the usual Gran Turismo fanboys didn't come this time to defend their game lol
cause they don‘t play their favourite game cause deep down they know it sucks
@@M-hq9xz 💀
Do LFA
already done: ua-cam.com/video/foWiPFs3Jt8/v-deo.html
Forzas lighting and graphics and stuff that you see on the screen is amazing way more detail than gt7 gt only wins with car models but sounds like hot ass
The colors in GT7 are so saturated that everything becomes plasticky
No it's Forza's colors that's so washed out I looks like someone smear Vaseline on the Forza screen.
You GT fanboys are so insufferable 💀 @@torezgermy2
Umm, that's how sports cars are in real life
Forza looks better gt7 the colors are too VIVID. ITS LIKE AN OIL PAINTING 🖼 LOL
@@germanautos9460 have you ever been in real world? Lol
gt7 wins everything, except for trees, it looks like mario kart trees
You're wrong here. Forza wins this one.
Gameplay in Forza is better
Everyone is wrong. Mario Kart always wins.
@@FedericoFroebel-dw4jenah gt7 still wins better graphics with better car models and interiors and obviously more realistic engine sounds(they are more accurate rather than loud)
@@amitsinha3063 wrong again. Just look how the car interiors are more detailed and visible through the rear windshield in Forza, than GT7. The circuit looks better in Forza. And if you think that GT7 sound is "accurate" you haven't heard how an Huracan sounds irl. GT7 has this horrible habit of muting all the car sounds.
Gt7 is boring
gt7 is like a mobile game
GT7 looks better, no doubt, when it comes to detail. People complain that the colors are too saturated. If you think so, there is an option to turn it down, so no complaining. GT7 environment sounds are better than Forza. This is even more noticeable with a good surround sound system. Forza does better, though, when passing objects like poles or overheads or bridges. Forza needs to tone down the engine sounds. The sound doesn't seem to come from your car. It just seems as though the sound is just there. And my gawd, can we stop with the flamethrower exhaust? It's ridiculous. With GT7 I actually prefer the shifting sounds before the last update. All in all, both games are not perfect, and that's fine they were created by humans, and we are not perfect, no game is. But I get more satisfaction from GT7 it feels better. I can take corners faster in GT7 when compared to Forza. I feel as though you have to slow down far too much in Forza because the car doesn't turn enough. And if Forza, you still have the same turning animation from the driver. In GT7 you noticed the driver checking his mirror, especially when a car is on his tail or rolling alongside. You get none of that in Forza. You also see how the grass shifts as the cars fly by. You also don't get that in Forza. Next, let's get a replay comparison.
GT7 looks more like a game here whereas Forza looks more like real life.
meanwhile gt7 is actually photo realistic 💀lmao forza fanboy
@amitsinha3063, you are the fan boy here. Man, GT7 takes a lot of artistic desition. Meanwhile, forza uses RTX, simulating the path of light so is not that gt7 has better graphics it just has more saturated colors and pronounce shadows and extra glare. Still looks amazing
@amitsinha3063, are you not a gt7 fanboy then, by your logic?
BAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!😂😂😂
Va dormir fanboy de pacotille aveugle qui défend cette horreur.. GT7 c'est un bijoux technique graphisme GT7 écrase cette merde dans tous les domaines.
Forza is better! So much better that you can mistake it with real life.
2024 and exhaust sounds are worser than 2000's racing games bro