Regarding the complaints to Charlie's play, I quote : “Beauty Is a Rare Thing” - that was the title of an Ornette Coleman composition on which Charlie Haden played bass in 1960, and Haden has made it his own motto. When Haden tells his students at CalArts never to play a note they don’t mean, he can offer himself as the best example. He doesn’t play riffs, scales or styles, he doesn’t dazzle you with virtuosic exhibitions. He just chooses or accepts, notes that make the music whole.
I've tried to like Baker for about thirty years. This comment and video has made me give up. Cool story that has nothing to do with his ability though.
Yeah but at 25:59 you can cleary see him using his 3rd finger in first position, i couldnt listen to anymore after that. Good god if he had only had the Simandl book, think what could free jazz have become!
It bothers me that a lot of people are talking about a mismatch between the personalities of this trio and throwing shade on the late Ginger Baker. Even when he was in Cream, Baker was noted for his fine jazz sensitivities. He may have been a wild man on the drums then, but he is equally at home in this improvisational context. He was one of the greatest drummers of all time, hands down. RIP Ginger! Thank you Bill and Charlie for teaming with him to create such beautiful and timeless music!
thanks Jim; yes, it's unfortunate that happens to someone just because they were in something like Cream, which was very experimental. Ginger was the first to tell someone that he was first and for most a jazz drummer. Charlie Watts is another guy it's happened too. typical bias.
Never expected, that Ginger Baker could fit with Bill Frisell and Charlie Haden. All of them playing fantastically together! I think this an epic moment in music! Thank You Tube algorithms. This feels like a collective meditation, they are really connected, gives me shivers, wonderful. I am very happy to have had that experience sometimes in my life, too.
@@SuperBromberg Were he alive to tell you, Baker would say that he always considered himself to be a jazz drummer. His earliest musical experiences were playing in jazz bands in London in the early 60's and he was a student of Phil Seaman who was the premier jazz drummer in England back in those days. Because of the tremendous success of Cream he became widely known as a rock drummer and he certainly played a lot of "rock" music, Sadly there are not as many recordings of him playing jazz and this is perhaps one of the best. But considering the fact that Charlie Hayden and Bill Frisell wanted to play with him is a testament to his abilities. And of course the proof is really in the pudding and all you have to do is listen. Try playing this for any jazz aficionado but don't tell them who the players are. I bet they will say that it is a very impressive trio especially the drummer.
I only did one real jazz gig when I still played, and found out that regardless of personalities or style and so forth; they will all play together as long as you have the chops, otherwise you'll hear about it and won't work.
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I love how Ginger is having so much fun. The smile never leaves his face. And Bill is just killin’ it, playing his ass off. And Charlie’s solos are epic.
he was probably on a 'sobriety high' then. I saw Aerosmith for example, when they were all about three years clean, and the new found energy was fantastic.
I was at Cream's first American concert, Fillmore East, 1968, right after the release of Disraeli Gears. I've grown a lot since then. I never in a million years would have guessed Ginger Baker and Charlie Haden would play together. Good for both of them
I'm 69 so ya listened to a lot of Ginger but I don't think I've ever seen him have so much fun as this. They guy's are at play and having so much fun, geez. To watch Ginger solo at the end with his eye's closed was pure joy. This is wonderfulness to the extreme!!!
he was probably on a 'sobriety high' after getting clean from his addiction. I saw Aerosmith, for example, when they were all about three years clean, and the energy was fantastic.
There's something so unique and hypnotic about this trio. I'll admit it took me a while to get what they were doing, but once I did I was sold. Absolutely beautiful.
This is SO GOOD! I always knew that Ginger was a superb jazz drummer, but here he REALLY shines. All of them playing brilliantly. And look at that smile on Ginger's face - says it all, really.
Absolutely amazing! The synchronicity between the three outstanding musicians is a chemistry that produces endorphins from the experience, with such peace, tranquility, and flow. Beautiful!
I've listened to these guys for a long time(not all at once). This is some of the most magical playing ever. They were totally conscious of each other. Something you don't see very often these days.
There is simply no drummer EVER that has as personal a sound as Ginger Baker. My personal all-time favorite drummer. Matched with the equally singular Charlie Hayden and Bill Frisell...well, this is just stunning. Sounds like nothing else.
I keep returning to the video again and again. The music is mesmerizing. I'm a huge Bill Frisell fan; the surprise was Baker. Maybe the first time I've genuinely enjoyed and appreciated his playing. Anyway it is unique and exquisite music.
I only played one real jazz gig when I was still playing, but had learned that as long as you have the chops, you can work with any jazzers, which is one of the beauties of jazz. he was on the London jazz scene before Cream happened and always viewed himself as a jazz drummer. Cream was an experiment.
What a fabulous show from an incredible group! If you don’t have them “Going Back Home” and “Falling Off the Roof” are both great albums - I have never heard another drummer who so thoroughly and magically integrates head-heart-hands & feet in their playing - Thank you so much Ginger for bringing all this joy to the world - I can't think if another world-class musician who so thoroughly changed his fundamental playing style. - a genius with Cream and others and then in the early '80s when he was olive farming in Italy and undergoing personal rehab something happened - out of that came arguably his most brilliant music! check out his recordings from 1986-1999. - be sure to listen to "Material Live in Japan", his recordings with Sonny Sharrock (No Material) and African Force, and "Coward of the County" - thank you Bibi for gifting us with this concert
thanks for the Baker list. I only had one CD before of him called Horses and Trees, and don't recall much of it. sounds like you maybe had read Modern Drummer mag, I used to by them before I lost everything in a fire years ago. I think there are a lot of jazzers and rockers that didn't know Baker was on the London 60s jazz circuit before Cream happened, which says how experimental the 60s were and Cream itself--wasn't surprising it only went two years. he was always primarily a jazz drummer, and after he got off smack, it wasn't surprising that he worked himself further to compete with the 'modern' baby boomer jazzers. he was teaching in Italy too, so he would of been doing a lot of wood shedding there. Charlie Watts was another guy that never really wanted to be a rocker at all, as well as Bill Buford, and both have done side jazz projects too. you probably know it was Tony Williams that was sited for starting the 1970 fusion movement because some of them were disillusioned with were jazz was going at the time.
This is fantastic!!,Thank you for posting this on UA-cam.Long Live Mr. Charlie Haden!....Long Live Mr.Peter Edward "Ginger" Baker!! Thank goodness We still have Mr. Bill Frisell in our midst! Amazing footage,much appreciated!
I wish UA-cam had been around when I was younger. I’ve just heard this trio for the first time and they are superb. It puts Cream in the shade.
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Ginger Baker can't be this good, can he? The things he was doing with the groove, moving it up and down as well as swinging. I mean Ginger was fuckin' it up! This is a super-talented band, as Bill and Charlie were legends in their own right.
oh ya;i've been amazed how good he got myself. there are probably a lot of rockers as well as jazzers that didn't know he was always a jazz drummer regardless of Cream--he was on the London 60s jazz circuit before Cream happened, which tells us how experimental the 60s were. he was another guy who had got clean from drugs, and those guys became more dedicated than ever to their crafts. Charlie Watts never really wanted to be a Stone but a jazz drummer as well, and also did some side projects.
This is a GREAT trio. Ornette and Charlie H's "Ramblin" is magnificent. Bill Frisell does his usual inspired by God riffs, harmonics and understated / over-the-top playing. CH from Missouri shows us that Ramblin is his song: wide open american spaces with an infinite horizon, a continuous river of rhythms from GB and Bill F waiting to shred and calm - all in the same song - Unbelievable... The album this came from is one of the best ever...
I really like this set, despite having a love-hate feeling about Ginger Baker. Back in the day I was a fan of Cream but not until this meeting with the great Charlie Haden and equally magnificent Bill Frisell did I appreciate Ginger's post Cream music. There is great empathy on display and the music swings. A nice upload -RIP Charlie Haden, Ginger Baker.
Cream was billed as the world's first 'Supergroup' because all thee musicians were famous before they formed. Ginger Baker had been a professional recorded drummer for 9 years before he joined Cream and whilst playing with Graham Bond in 1965 he was introduced to the audience as 'The most marvellous drummer in Europe" by Bond - so there is a bit to discover and appreciate before Cream, too ;)
thanks Leslie, I think a lot of rockers and jazzers don't know he was on the London jazz scene before Cream happened, which says how experimental Cream was as well as the whole 60s. he always wanted to be a jazzer, but they thought they would give pop rock a go because Eric had spent his youth getting his blues roots down, so the 60s was the perfect vehicle at the time to see what would happen and it certainly worked. Charlie Watts is another guy that never really wanted to be a rocker at all, so he has done some side projects. Tony Williams and those guys were disillusioned with were jazz was heading in 1970 so they started the fusion movement.
@@donalddrysdale246 Well there was that Ginger quote to the effect that Cream was a jazz group - we just never told Eric. The interplay he had with Jack Bruce and the way they both pushed Eric to play past his blues limit is something I've never seen with any other trio.
I love this band: Listen to that groove, it just never quits ! Charlie drives is (as the bass always does) but Ginger Baker, man, who knew he was a jazzer at heart !
it's too bad not many people did--he was on the London jazz scenes in the 60s before Cream happened, and it was just an experiment to add Eric with his well studied blues roots. you can see here how easy it is to get labeled a 'rocker' by mistake, and Charlie Watts is another guy that happened to. he also has been doing side gigs to make up for it. that's what rocker kids in the 80s stopped understanding: that rock all came from blues and jazz. Randy Backman is another guy that has had trouble with the pigeon hole.
I love this so much, what a masterpiece... as much as Ginger used to shit on other muscians and drummers especially, you cannot deny his talent, sheer passion and joy when he's playing.... I just think that he always wanted to play jazz in his core and you can clearly see it in his eyes and smile how happy and natural he feels in this kind of environment :) .... one of my favourite drummers of all time. Rest easy!
These 3 musicians are great per se, but togther they are an incredible unit. Bill Frisell sounds better than ever . Thanks a lot for loading this beautiful concert!
jamie pastman....although Ginger Baker was one of the, if not the greatest drummers of my generation, he always considered himself a jazz drummer first and foremost. Thus this is right in his wheelhouse.
@@jamiepastman5594 that’s all well and good but that doesn’t mean you know a swinging drummer when you hear one :) I can, I’m literally one of the best Jazz saxophonists of all time. Maybe the greatest.
oh, yes-- the music! fabulous group, each master player shining -- both in soloing and supporting -- in this small ensemble context, and, as others have noted, it's great to see Ginger so happy in the middle of it
I had no idea these 3 played together. What a gem, thanks for uploading. Just the smile on Baker's face tells it all. And by the way, all of you who bothered to leave a comment for this great video, I consider you my friends and would like to have a drink with you listening to music like this some day. Take care, stay safe and hopefully we'll have a happy new year!
I share your sentiment, my friend. With all of the hate and problems in the world this good music is something that reminds u8s of our common humanity. I toast to your long life! But as we both know, watching Ginger and Charlie on Bass....life is strangely too short. (I saw Ginger at Cream's 1st concert in San Francisco. I was right in front of the stage. They opened with "N.S.U." Charlie Haden and I met at Delancey Street Foundation - a drug rehab in San Francisco..../Bill Frisell is EXACTLY my age and the only one of the 3 still living.) Happy New Year
@@bradbryant332 You are so right, good music heals and brings together. Being in a Cream concert must have been a unique experience. Of the three, I have only seen Frisell live performing The Great Flood. Stay safe and I hope you have a great year.
Thank you, Bibi. I loved this trio since their first outing. Ginger Baker was something else. And in my jazz universe Frisell and Haden where unique. Never imagine that these two would fit so well with Baker.
This is really good! Each player sort of define and dwell perfectly within their own personal time, while geling with the whole in a marvelous way! Can't explain it any better, not being a musician myself... it's a rare thing, even among super pros. I find it very similar to the way The gateway trio sounded (Abercrombie, Holland, DeJohnette). This vid is now in my list of favourites.
@@ktwheels44 I always heard them called Steinbrerger so the Klein reference threw me off . Yea man, Frisell is such a great player and composer ! Saw him last summer at the Vanguard and as always he was unassuming yet brilliant. Thanks for your response.
Three different expressions of musical creativity woven together in greatness: Gingers outbound expressive joyousness, Hadens introvert bass patterns grounded in melodics and Frisells avantgardistic cowboy chordism
I Lu Kron 8:00 sounds like 40,000 Headmen by Traffic (Dave Mason), maybe combined with Bert Jansch / Pentangle. This is lovely. Charlie Haden holding it down, with GB playing great. I loved Cream, Blind Faith, never heard much GB after that. Don't remember anything like this quiet, driven, pulsing combo on Beware Of Mr. Baker. I knew he came out of the jazz scene, and Cream ended up heavy on the improvisation / jams too, but this is a whole 'nother beast. Sweet. BibiAudiofil2 - props to you for this post!
Top notch all around. I admit to never being a big fan of Baker and thought he was highly overrated in Cream, but he's really in his element here. Great stuff.
a lot of people don't know he was on the London jazz scene before Cream happened--it was just an experiment with himself Jack and Eric's well studied blues roots. it happened to Charlie Watts too--he never really wanted to be in the Stones.
@@whatwouldhousedo5136 Playing and understanding the theory like I do (I was a musician for over 50 years) aren't the same thing. The very fact that you now realize you were wrong about Baker being over rated shows you've learned something you didn't know before.
When i listen to CREAM playing a long ferocious live jam, i sometimes imagine the bass as upright acoustic and guitar jazzy and quiet - i leave the drums exactly as they are - to me it sounds just like a jazz trio.
Baker was such a freak. Loved him. He's got the low volume trio and shows up with the thick shell double bass Ludwigs with silver dots heads. He was always just himself - here I am, take it or leave it.
I'm 69 years old. When Cream came out I wanted to play drums like him. To me he was the ultimate next to Gene Krupa. I'm grateful that there's some performances to preserve his legacy.
Regarding the complaints to Charlie's play, I quote : “Beauty Is a Rare Thing” - that was the title of an Ornette Coleman composition on which Charlie Haden played bass in 1960, and Haden has made it his own motto. When Haden tells his students at CalArts never to play a note they don’t mean, he can offer himself as the best example. He doesn’t play riffs, scales or styles, he doesn’t dazzle you with virtuosic exhibitions. He just chooses or accepts, notes that make the music whole.
I've tried to like Baker for about thirty years. This comment and video has made me give up. Cool story that has nothing to do with his ability though.
@@stizuart The story was about Haden
Yeah but at 25:59 you can cleary see him using his 3rd finger in first position, i couldnt listen to anymore after that. Good god if he had only had the Simandl book, think what could free jazz have become!
Never seen Ginger Baker play happier. Charlie Haden is especially good here. Thanks.
@@i.p.freely9834 You must be one of the dumbest person in the world. Please don't do or teach music of any kind...
It bothers me that a lot of people are talking about a mismatch between the personalities of this trio and throwing shade on the late Ginger Baker. Even when he was in Cream, Baker was noted for his fine jazz sensitivities. He may have been a wild man on the drums then, but he is equally at home in this improvisational context. He was one of the greatest drummers of all time, hands down. RIP Ginger! Thank you Bill and Charlie for teaming with him to create such beautiful and timeless music!
100%. since when was musical collaboration about harmonious personalities!
thanks Jim; yes, it's unfortunate that happens to someone just because they were in something like Cream, which was very experimental. Ginger was the first to tell someone that he was first and for most a jazz drummer. Charlie Watts is another guy it's happened too. typical bias.
I think some people always want to hear the same thing.
I want to be surprised by music. I want to hear unique music. I love this trio.
Different strokes for different folks.
Would Charlie be considered a great drummer if he didn't play for 50 plus years in the pocket with the Stones?
Watts that is.
Never expected, that Ginger Baker could fit with Bill Frisell and Charlie Haden. All of them playing fantastically together! I think this an epic moment in music! Thank You Tube algorithms. This feels like a collective meditation, they are really connected, gives me shivers, wonderful. I am very happy to have had that experience sometimes in my life, too.
me too, indeed)
@@SuperBromberg Were he alive to tell you, Baker would say that he always considered himself to be a jazz drummer. His earliest musical experiences were playing in jazz bands in London in the early 60's and he was a student of Phil Seaman who was the premier jazz drummer in England back in those days. Because of the tremendous success of Cream he became widely known as a rock drummer and he certainly played a lot of "rock" music, Sadly there are not as many recordings of him playing jazz and this is perhaps one of the best. But considering the fact that Charlie Hayden and Bill Frisell wanted to play with him is a testament to his abilities. And of course the proof is really in the pudding and all you have to do is listen. Try playing this for any jazz aficionado but don't tell them who the players are. I bet they will say that it is a very impressive trio especially the drummer.
Ginger has Jazz in his DNA.
I only did one real jazz gig when I still played, and found out that regardless of personalities or style and so forth; they will all play together as long as you have the chops, otherwise you'll hear about it and won't work.
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I love how Ginger is having so much fun. The smile never leaves his face. And Bill is just killin’ it, playing his ass off. And Charlie’s solos are epic.
he was probably on a 'sobriety high' then. I saw Aerosmith for example, when they were all about three years clean, and the new found energy was fantastic.
@@donalddrysdale246 Lovely to se him enjoying him self so much, wonderfulllllll !
Certainly, they are giants on the shoulders' gods
I was at Cream's first American concert, Fillmore East, 1968, right after the release of Disraeli Gears.
I've grown a lot since then.
I never in a million years would have guessed Ginger Baker and Charlie Haden would play together.
Good for both of them
I saw them just before Disraeli Gears. All three were awesome.
Jazz players
I'm 69 so ya listened to a lot of Ginger but I don't think I've ever seen him have so much fun as this. They guy's are at play and having so much fun, geez. To watch Ginger solo at the end with his eye's closed was pure joy. This is wonderfulness to the extreme!!!
he was probably on a 'sobriety high' after getting clean from his addiction. I saw Aerosmith, for example, when they were all about three years clean, and the energy was fantastic.
Frisel such a genius player
Amen to that! Whatever he plays, it’s right!
You can just see how much of a good time Ginger is having. This was when he was truly in his element. He loved improvisation so much. ❤
There's something so unique and hypnotic about this trio. I'll admit it took me a while to get what they were doing, but once I did I was sold. Absolutely beautiful.
This is SO GOOD! I always knew that Ginger was a superb jazz drummer, but here he REALLY shines. All of them playing brilliantly. And look at that smile on Ginger's face - says it all, really.
Bill is one of the most creative, innovative, melodic, INCREDIBLE guitar players of all time.. he's in rare form for this set
I AGREE !
And just plain fun to listen to
It's interesting to see him playing from sheet music...
sounds like he's trying to musically urge Ginger to stop playing the "& of 4" relentlessly lmao. Frisell lands on "1" a lot, anyway!
@@andy_travis ginger out of his league here IMO
I loved this trio, they clicked so well together and had such a cool vibe. Honestly this was my favorite music Ginger ever took part in.
he always wanted to be a jazz drummer mainly, and Cream was an example of how experimental the 60s were.
So much crap on the Internet and then one comes upon this and wow! Sophisticated, cool, accessible - THANKS!
This sure sounds fresh and current for being 25 years ago.
25.... or for all eternity
I’ve been listening to this great music for 25 years. So great to have a live version with both great sound and wonderful camerawork. A real gem!
Is there a recording of this available on CD, or LP or otherwise?
Check "Going Back Home" too, it feature all the tracks from this live concert ( studio version )
Absolutely amazing! The synchronicity between the three outstanding musicians is a chemistry that produces endorphins from the experience, with such peace, tranquility, and flow. Beautiful!
I've listened to these guys for a long time(not all at once). This is some of the most magical playing ever. They were totally conscious of each other. Something you don't see very often these days.
There is simply no drummer EVER that has as personal a sound as Ginger Baker. My personal all-time favorite drummer. Matched with the equally singular Charlie Hayden and Bill Frisell...well, this is just stunning. Sounds like nothing else.
i hear a lot of elvin jones in it!
I keep returning to the video again and again. The music is mesmerizing. I'm a huge Bill Frisell fan; the surprise was Baker. Maybe the first time I've genuinely enjoyed and appreciated his playing. Anyway it is unique and exquisite music.
I only played one real jazz gig when I was still playing, but had learned that as long as you have the chops, you can work with any jazzers, which is one of the beauties of jazz. he was on the London jazz scene before Cream happened and always viewed himself as a jazz drummer. Cream was an experiment.
Same here.
What a fabulous show from an incredible group! If you don’t have them “Going Back Home” and “Falling Off the Roof” are both great albums - I have never heard another drummer who so thoroughly and magically integrates head-heart-hands & feet in their playing - Thank you so much Ginger for bringing all this joy to the world - I can't think if another world-class musician who so thoroughly changed his fundamental playing style. - a genius with Cream and others and then in the early '80s when he was olive farming in Italy and undergoing personal rehab something happened - out of that came arguably his most brilliant music! check out his recordings from 1986-1999. - be sure to listen to "Material Live in Japan", his recordings with Sonny Sharrock (No Material) and African Force, and "Coward of the County" - thank you Bibi for gifting us with this concert
thanks for the Baker list. I only had one CD before of him called Horses and Trees, and don't recall much of it. sounds like you maybe had read Modern Drummer mag, I used to by them before I lost everything in a fire years ago. I think there are a lot of jazzers and rockers that didn't know Baker was on the London 60s jazz circuit before Cream happened, which says how experimental the 60s were and Cream itself--wasn't surprising it only went two years. he was always primarily a jazz drummer, and after he got off smack, it wasn't surprising that he worked himself further to compete with the 'modern' baby boomer jazzers. he was teaching in Italy too, so he would of been doing a lot of wood shedding there. Charlie Watts was another guy that never really wanted to be a rocker at all, as well as Bill Buford, and both have done side jazz projects too. you probably know it was Tony Williams that was sited for starting the 1970 fusion movement because some of them were disillusioned with were jazz was going at the time.
Great concert……..totally unique…….thanks for posting it!!!!
This is fantastic!!,Thank you for posting this on UA-cam.Long Live Mr. Charlie Haden!....Long Live Mr.Peter Edward "Ginger" Baker!! Thank goodness We still have Mr. Bill Frisell in our midst! Amazing footage,much appreciated!
agreed
This concert is not only an incredible piece of art but really enjoyable to listen to. Cheers.
Great concert with ginger in superb shape !
I wish UA-cam had been around when I was younger. I’ve just heard this trio for the first time and they are superb. It puts Cream in the shade.
Ginger Baker can't be this good, can he? The things he was doing with the groove, moving it up and down as well as swinging. I mean Ginger was fuckin' it up! This is a super-talented band, as Bill and Charlie were legends in their own right.
Ginger is the best of all time associated with the rock and roll genre......
Yes, he was really that good.
oh ya;i've been amazed how good he got myself. there are probably a lot of rockers as well as jazzers that didn't know he was always a jazz drummer regardless of Cream--he was on the London 60s jazz circuit before Cream happened, which tells us how experimental the 60s were. he was another guy who had got clean from drugs, and those guys became more dedicated than ever to their crafts. Charlie Watts never really wanted to be a Stone but a jazz drummer as well, and also did some side projects.
Listen to the CDs this group made. Not as much swing as here, absolutely solid. All three players having a discussion around the beat.
This is a GREAT trio. Ornette and Charlie H's "Ramblin" is magnificent. Bill Frisell does his usual inspired by God riffs, harmonics and understated / over-the-top playing. CH from Missouri shows us that Ramblin is his song: wide open american spaces with an infinite horizon, a continuous river of rhythms from GB and Bill F waiting to shred and calm - all in the same song - Unbelievable... The album this came from is one of the best ever...
I really like this set, despite having a love-hate feeling about Ginger Baker. Back in the day I was a fan of Cream but not until this meeting with the great Charlie Haden and equally magnificent Bill Frisell did I appreciate Ginger's post Cream music. There is great empathy on display and the music swings. A nice upload -RIP Charlie Haden, Ginger Baker.
Cream was billed as the world's first 'Supergroup' because all thee musicians were famous before they formed. Ginger Baker had been a professional recorded drummer for 9 years before he joined Cream and whilst playing with Graham Bond in 1965 he was introduced to the audience as 'The most marvellous drummer in Europe" by Bond - so there is a bit to discover and appreciate before Cream, too ;)
thanks Leslie, I think a lot of rockers and jazzers don't know he was on the London jazz scene before Cream happened, which says how experimental Cream was as well as the whole 60s. he always wanted to be a jazzer, but they thought they would give pop rock a go because Eric had spent his youth getting his blues roots down, so the 60s was the perfect vehicle at the time to see what would happen and it certainly worked. Charlie Watts is another guy that never really wanted to be a rocker at all, so he has done some side projects. Tony Williams and those guys were disillusioned with were jazz was heading in 1970 so they started the fusion movement.
@@donalddrysdale246 Well there was that Ginger quote to the effect that Cream was a jazz group - we just never told Eric. The interplay he had with Jack Bruce and the way they both pushed Eric to play past his blues limit is something I've never seen with any other trio.
@@donalddrysdale246 Billy Cobham wasn't bad either. Did you pitch for the Brooklyn Dodgers in a past life?
Great playing! Ginger's having a blast. What a great band.
I love this band: Listen to that groove, it just never quits ! Charlie drives is (as the bass always does) but Ginger Baker, man, who knew he was a jazzer at heart !
Baker was a jazz drummer from the start, as was Jack Bruce on the bass.
Jeff Newman is right.
@@mjeffn2 yes, such a strange brew.
@@vernonsteinkamp1088 I feel glad about that
it's too bad not many people did--he was on the London jazz scenes in the 60s before Cream happened, and it was just an experiment to add Eric with his well studied blues roots. you can see here how easy it is to get labeled a 'rocker' by mistake, and Charlie Watts is another guy that happened to. he also has been doing side gigs to make up for it. that's what rocker kids in the 80s stopped understanding: that rock all came from blues and jazz. Randy Backman is another guy that has had trouble with the pigeon hole.
I studied the record they made of this music when I was learning guitar. Legendary music. Combining so many things -- so open and jazzy.
I love this so much, what a masterpiece... as much as Ginger used to shit on other muscians and drummers especially, you cannot deny his talent, sheer passion and joy when he's playing.... I just think that he always wanted to play jazz in his core and you can clearly see it in his eyes and smile how happy and natural he feels in this kind of environment :) .... one of my favourite drummers of all time. Rest easy!
These 3 musicians are great per se, but togther they are an incredible unit. Bill Frisell sounds better than ever . Thanks a lot for loading this beautiful concert!
This made me late for work. Thought I would watch for a few minutes and save for later. Couldn’t stop. Absolutely amazing !
Thank you very much for beautyful harmony of jazz
Fantastic, I got this cd 26 years ago and still listening to it, great stuff and the follow up "falling off the roof"
Ginger wants to have fun. He lives for this
"lived". But yeah, he looks so happy.
he was having more fun because he was experiencing being drug free.
This is a rare gem! Thankyou for posting this
This album has changed my musical life 25 years ago!! thank you!!
"a mismatch between the personalities of this trio" is the very reason I'm listening to that concert, and maybe what makes it unique !
jesus, ginger swings his ass off, I honestly didn't know he could. this trio shouldn't work on paper, but it's really great.
jamie pastman....although Ginger Baker was one of the, if not the greatest drummers of my generation, he always considered himself a jazz drummer first and foremost. Thus this is right in his wheelhouse.
@Fermati Chebellosei cool
I guess I’d think he was swinging if I’d never listened to any good jazz drummers too
@@jamiepastman5594 that’s all well and good but that doesn’t mean you know a swinging drummer when you hear one :) I can, I’m literally one of the best Jazz saxophonists of all time. Maybe the greatest.
Ginger always was a Jazz drummer. I can't see why it wouldn't work on paper :P
oh, yes-- the music!
fabulous group, each master player shining -- both in soloing and supporting -- in this small ensemble context, and, as others have noted, it's great to see Ginger so happy in the middle of it
Excellent concert, thank you for posting !
Yes, thank you !
I had no idea these 3 played together. What a gem, thanks for uploading. Just the smile on Baker's face tells it all. And by the way, all of you who bothered to leave a comment for this great video, I consider you my friends and would like to have a drink with you listening to music like this some day. Take care, stay safe and hopefully we'll have a happy new year!
I share your sentiment, my friend. With all of the hate and problems in the world this good music is something that reminds u8s of our common humanity. I toast to your long life! But as we both know, watching Ginger and Charlie on Bass....life is strangely too short. (I saw Ginger at Cream's 1st concert in San Francisco. I was right in front of the stage. They opened with "N.S.U."
Charlie Haden and I met at Delancey Street Foundation - a drug rehab in San Francisco..../Bill Frisell is EXACTLY my age and the only one of the 3 still living.) Happy New Year
@@bradbryant332 You are so right, good music heals and brings together. Being in a Cream concert must have been a unique experience. Of the three, I have only seen Frisell live performing The Great Flood. Stay safe and I hope you have a great year.
solo at 15:46 - some of the most visionary guitar playing I've ever heard
Che trio fantastico!!! Fortunato a possedere i 2 album . Grandi musicisti.
My Frisell Favorite. That's one groovy trio.
Superb. Thanks for the post.
Thank you, Bibi. I loved this trio since their first outing. Ginger Baker was something else. And in my jazz universe Frisell and Haden where unique. Never imagine that these two would fit so well with Baker.
I had found that in jazz circles, as long as you have the chops you can work with whoever, which is one of the beauties of jazz.
This is really good!
Each player sort of define and dwell perfectly within their own personal time, while geling with the whole in a marvelous way! Can't explain it any better, not being a musician myself... it's a rare thing, even among super pros.
I find it very similar to the way The gateway trio sounded (Abercrombie, Holland, DeJohnette). This vid is now in my list of favourites.
All I can say is wow! Everyone plays great on this, but Ginger is amazing.
yes, he was here, but it had to do with him getting drug free as well as a lot of wood shedding.
baker by far the worst musician on that stage
Three experts understand each other sleepwalking still make wonderful music out of it
The complete trio plays rare and amazing good. Total quality and capacity. A cascade of rythm and timing.
Jazz, Cream, doesn't matter. Ginger Baker's playing style is recognizable.
Frisell's Klein period will always be my favourite!!
I was wondering what kind of guitar that is... crazy looking thing. He makes the most incredible harmonies no matter what instrument he plays.
Forgive my ignorance but is Klein the maker of Bill's guitar ?
@@Humanframe It is a Klein Steinberger... or perhaps a Kleinberger. LOL I don't know much about them but he sure owns that thing in this concert.
@@ktwheels44 I always heard them called Steinbrerger so the Klein reference threw me off . Yea man, Frisell is such a great player and composer ! Saw him last summer at the Vanguard and as always he was unassuming yet brilliant. Thanks for your response.
Great show. Always loved Ginger. He seems perfectly at home.
Even though I saw part of one. A snippet.
When Elven Jones and Ginger fad a drum off.
brilliant......three incredibly talented musicians. thank you
Three different expressions of musical creativity woven together in greatness: Gingers outbound expressive joyousness, Hadens introvert bass patterns grounded in melodics and Frisells avantgardistic cowboy chordism
Once more, again and again. Recordings were meant for moment like this. Thanks.
I love pleasuring myself to this music too. Makes me feel like I'm Ginger Baker!
Love that stretch that starts at 13:00. About four or five minutes of bliss there that builds. Baker churning away - full vodoo in that section.
Going Back Home is one of my favorite albums of all time. Top five jazz album, for sure.
Mr. Ginger Baker drum god! Thanks for this, I'm a New fan of Haden , Frisell and an old fan of Mr. Baker! great music.
Mr. Baker back to his jazz roots..
One trick pony.
Chris Defender :o[::::]o: - are you?
Baker, on the other hand, has crossed many musical genres compared to his contemporaries.
yes, a lot of people don't know he was on the London jazz scenes before Cream happened.
@@ElmerJFudd-oi9kj Baker is a one truck pony?
Extraordinary guitar playing.......
I Lu Kron 8:00 sounds like 40,000 Headmen by Traffic (Dave Mason), maybe combined with Bert Jansch / Pentangle.
This is lovely. Charlie Haden holding it down, with GB playing great. I loved Cream, Blind Faith, never heard much GB after that. Don't remember anything like this quiet, driven, pulsing combo on Beware Of Mr. Baker. I knew he came out of the jazz scene, and Cream ended up heavy on the improvisation / jams too, but this is a whole 'nother beast. Sweet.
BibiAudiofil2 - props to you for this post!
thank u 4 posting this
Ginger compliments the best musicians. Exactly what a drummer should do🥁❣️🥁
He REALLY did.
ty for posting this, had no idea baker and bill had crossed paths, this is new to me, and pretty awesome gotta say
Top notch all around. I admit to never being a big fan of Baker and thought he was highly overrated in Cream, but he's really in his element here. Great stuff.
a lot of people don't know he was on the London jazz scene before Cream happened--it was just an experiment with himself Jack and Eric's well studied blues roots. it happened to Charlie Watts too--he never really wanted to be in the Stones.
If you thought Baker was overrated wih Cream then you don't understand music.
@@nyobunknown6983 I understand music just fine, sunshine. I've been playing it for over 35 years. Try again.
@@whatwouldhousedo5136 Playing and understanding the theory like I do (I was a musician for over 50 years) aren't the same thing. The very fact that you now realize you were wrong about Baker being over rated shows you've learned something you didn't know before.
Magnifique ! grazie mille !
Never seen Ginger Baker look so happy!
it was probably because he was on a 'sobriety high'---he had to get clean from smack before he was able to shine here.
He has reason to be; playing with Great musicans, he can PLAY drums and not just banging.
One of the Most Epic Things in UA-cam History
Great concert! Thanks for sharing!
Grandi e indimenticabili Charlie e Ginger!!!
Magic, thx for sharing such a gem
Gustoso de este momento, de éste movimiento!! ✌️
amazing talent!
Mr. Baker has always been a jazzman. I saw him in his later years...failing health and ornery as ever. I choose to remember him with Frisell and Haden
Thanks so much . I had not seen this. You made my Thanksgiving..
SUPERLATIVE !!! GREAT trio with ginger master of the drumkit ,,,GREAT MUSIC
Thanks for sharing
Wasn't aware that this was a thing. Dang.
The riff of "I Lu Kron" sounds very close to the Iron Maiden's Hallowed Be Thy Name riff
What a treasure. So happy to have found this today.
..you and mE both..🎶🎸🥁💞
Wonderfull live "in the trio with Paul Bley and Motian"
Sorry "in the way of Paul Bley on piano and Paul Motian on drums (my english is terrible)
Outstanding must have
This is so great. I've been a Bill Frisell fan for 25yrs.
When i listen to CREAM playing a long ferocious live jam, i sometimes imagine the bass as upright acoustic and guitar jazzy and quiet - i leave the drums exactly as they are - to me it sounds just like a jazz trio.
It's essential to play like them : all is every in beauty (a virgin beauty to bé honestly)
this is just amazing!!!
LOVED THE THIS RECORD
Baker was such a freak. Loved him. He's got the low volume trio and shows up with the thick shell double bass Ludwigs with silver dots heads. He was always just himself - here I am, take it or leave it.
Kinda like Tony showing up with his massive yellow gretsch.
Great Sound!
That's some mighty fine swing drumming. Unique too.
Ginger Baker, John Bonham, Ian Paice, Mitch Mitchell .. all rock gods with jazz at their roots.
I'm 69 years old. When Cream came out I wanted to play drums like him. To me he was the ultimate next to Gene Krupa. I'm grateful that there's some performances to preserve his legacy.
Words that come to mind for;
Frisell: Sensitive, tasty guitarist
Haden: Workmanlike
Baker: Gifted but crazy
beware of mr.baker
Very cool....
genial music - very nice !!! - brawo ......
Love, love, love this!