Bad Dialogue vs Good Dialogue ROUND 2 (Writing Advice)

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  • Explore five new types of bad dialogue and learn how to fix them. Examples from Game of Thrones, The Dark Knight, The Godfather, Titanic, Star Wars, and more!
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    0:00 Intro
    0:27 Good Dialogue
    1:32 Good Dialogue Example
    2:18 Bad Dialogue
    2:37 Name Calling
    4:46 Preachy Dialogue
    7:31 Filler Dialogue
    9:47 Relentlessly Repeated Phrases
    12:31 Clunky Comebacks
    14:41 Outro
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  • @cerebrumexcrement
    @cerebrumexcrement Рік тому +3847

    idk what u talkin about. "hi doggy" and "ur my favorite customer." are some of the most iconic lines in movie history.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +572

      What a story, Mark!

    • @writerinprogress
      @writerinprogress Рік тому +493

      But top spot surely still goes to "I did nat hit her, iss bullshit, I did nat hit her, I did naaaaht. Oh, hi Mark."

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +342

      @@writerinprogress I read somewhere that this scene took hours to get "right." Gotta respect Tommy Wiseau's devotion to his craft haha

    • @trevorthornley8835
      @trevorthornley8835 Рік тому

      Another great line: "mother you're alive?" " Too bad you....will die"

    • @brandonbuchner1771
      @brandonbuchner1771 Рік тому +96

      @@WriterBrandonMcNulty if you haven't seen Disaster Artist about the making of the Room, it's a must. The scene where they keep shooting that scene is hilarious.

  • @adamkashlak8026
    @adamkashlak8026 9 місяців тому +35

    What Luke should've said is "well, that's just, like, your opinion, dad."

  • @NoriMori1992
    @NoriMori1992 Рік тому +241

    My favourite thing about that flower shop scene is that they both start their next lines and actions before the first person even finishes their own prerequisite line. And also that the flower shop lady knows who Johnny is, and even calls him her favourite customer, but somehow didn't know it was him when he came in.

    • @IMAMONGUS
      @IMAMONGUS 9 місяців тому +27

      C'mon, she can't be expected to immediately recognize every black haired vampire who walks in!😂

    • @KBGVideos1
      @KBGVideos1 5 місяців тому +2

      Such a masterful work of art! 🥲👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @DistractedGlobeGuy
      @DistractedGlobeGuy 27 днів тому +1

      Don't act like you would recognise a chameleon like Tommy Wiseau without even being able to see his eyes.

  • @Ditronus.
    @Ditronus. 10 місяців тому +133

    Best comeback of all time:
    "Our arrows will blot out the sun!"
    "Then we will fight in the shade."

  • @clonedelta22
    @clonedelta22 Рік тому +1043

    Not only does Luke not speak, but act. But his lightsaber powers on quickly, loudly and brightly. Indicating his brash, youthful cockiness. While Vader's, after a moment, hisses more subtly to life, the blade extending more slowly and in a slower, more deliberate motion than the quick flick Luke had done. Foreshadowing before the first attack of the fight that Luke is confident and young, but stands against a more powerful and experienced master.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +97

      Yep, I love everything about it

    • @RuddsReels
      @RuddsReels Рік тому +50

      Yes, I noticed the difference in speed in the activation of both Light Sabers. I thought this was accidental. But your explanation shows it must be symbolic here, for the reasons you stated.

    • @matthewbacque1622
      @matthewbacque1622 Рік тому +7

      Um.. dang bro..

    • @seamusburke639
      @seamusburke639 Рік тому +61

      Body language is so important in that scene. Like when Luke tags Vader in the shoulder with his lightsaber. You hear Vader cry out in pain, and suddenly his lightsaber technique gets way more aggressive. He chops one of the spires in half, then beats Luke into submission before taking his hand off.
      You realize then that Luke really did get a lucky shot in, because the duel was essentially over when Vader decided it was over.

    • @clonedelta22
      @clonedelta22 Рік тому +39

      @@seamusburke639 It is easily my favourite fight in Star Wars. It might not be the flashiest, it might not have as interesting background, or as intense music as other fights, but in terms of technical accuracy and most importantly, story telling, it is hands down the best in the series.

  • @PickledShark
    @PickledShark Рік тому +352

    “You are my queen, I don’t know what else I can say!”
    Man that last line is almost meta in it’s hilarity. 😅

    • @AdderTude
      @AdderTude Рік тому +33

      "You should be our king, Jon Snow."
      "I don't want it." (

    • @WhiskeyPapa42
      @WhiskeyPapa42 Рік тому +36

      What the actor wanted to say: _"You are my queen. I'm not allowed to say anything else!"_ 🤣🤣

    • @oguzhanbspnr
      @oguzhanbspnr 11 місяців тому +8

      I guess Jon Snow really does know nothing.

    • @matthewdrews
      @matthewdrews 11 місяців тому +3

      "You were my queen" is how they should have ended it.

    • @One.Zero.One101
      @One.Zero.One101 9 місяців тому +3

      MAH QWEENNNNN

  • @Missionmoench2
    @Missionmoench2 Рік тому +794

    Great dialogue #4 example would be in LOTR the fellowship between Boromir and Aragorn. Early on, boromir is clearly uncomfortable with Aragorn and says “Gondor has no King. Gondor NEEDS no King” this theme is played out between the two of them through the film, until, with his dying breath, Boromir turns to Aragorn and says “my brother. My captain. My king” such a powerful close.

    • @TruthSurge
      @TruthSurge Рік тому +46

      foreshadowing. you plant something early, switch it or fulfill it or bring it into the plot much later. Also plays on the heartstrings since the dying person admits he has changed views but... alas, he won't be doing much fealty to his newfound king.

    • @HontounoShiramizu
      @HontounoShiramizu Рік тому +19

      This was a powerful moment in the book. The movies are great but they don't really establish what is the catalyst for this change of heart in Boromir.

    • @TruthSurge
      @TruthSurge Рік тому

      @@HontounoShiramizu pretty obvious. No man would want to be ruled by another man, much less a friend or relative. That's my belief. Why should another man rule over me? It's an antiquated system of control we still use to this day and in a world of educated people who all grew up with their basic needs met instead of growing up like animals, we wouldn't need rulers.

    • @Missionmoench2
      @Missionmoench2 Рік тому +9

      @@HontounoShiramizu agreed! The movies did the best they could, and I loved them, but the story and Tolkien’s writing was poetic. So beautiful

    • @chrispyle2942
      @chrispyle2942 11 місяців тому +16

      Extended edition shows a progression of Boromir's character in a positive light, despite him still being corrupted by the ring. Im thinking of a scene after they get to Galadriel where Boromir is talking about the vision she showed him of Gondor's fall. I think he goes as far as to acknowledge that his father is losing it.

  • @JohnDoe-zr8pc
    @JohnDoe-zr8pc Рік тому +273

    For Titanic, I always figured it was Jack just panicking in the moment, but was trying to keep Rose focused, because if she panicked too, she probably couldn’t find the keys & they were both dead.

    • @Prince36300
      @Prince36300 11 місяців тому +14

      True but its just not how a real person would talk to another adult especially if they already have a connection. You can convey all of that with tone. People only do this when talking to children, pets or someone attention/focus disorders

    • @Halo4Light
      @Halo4Light 10 місяців тому +49

      Yeah but you're missing the point. It's not a normal situation. Jack is handcuffed to a pipe on a sinking ship.. Rose has just been wading through freezing water trying to find him, on a sinking ship. Its not a normal conversation. Its panic, just like OP said. And it's a terrible example in trying to say its poor dialogue.

    • @smaller_cathedrals
      @smaller_cathedrals 10 місяців тому

      And you figured correctly.
      I swear, these video essays are just becoming more and more stupid.

    • @CircumcisionIsChildAbuse
      @CircumcisionIsChildAbuse 10 місяців тому +4

      yah- thats the great thing about art- if its a great story people will be able to fill in the gaps with stuff like that, explaining away peculiar behavior. i agree- that is very much a state of extreme panic that would be more than enough to cause a persons speech patterns to become unusual like that.
      in real life though- i knew someone who had an annoying habit of over using peoples names when addressing them. I think its a sign of affection.

    • @Roddy556
      @Roddy556 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@Prince36300 a real person would be also be unable to move their fingers after a few seconds in water that temperature. The entire movie requires a suspension of disbelief.

  • @meganc1539
    @meganc1539 Рік тому +438

    And yet some rules are made to be broken. Case in point: an epic bit of dialogue that is on the nose, involves excessive name usage, and repeating the same phase over and over. And it starts: “Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya…”

    • @GiovanniV69
      @GiovanniV69 Рік тому +39

      So TRUE!! Incredibly impactful dialogue by Inigo Montoya!

    • @UloPe
      @UloPe Рік тому +129

      Someone once told me: you have to know the rules and how to use them before you can think of breaking them.

    • @kevinbarnard355
      @kevinbarnard355 Рік тому +49

      So true. But it works despite the repetitiveness because like with "You know nothing, John Snow" it demonstrates growth and determination in the character. It's an endurance test that Mandy Patinkin pulls out of the character, showing his preternatural determination, and also "showing, instead of telling" us that the character is singularly focused. I love that many of the repeatable lines from Princess Bride actually irritate the characters after hearing them too often.

    • @tabeechey
      @tabeechey Рік тому +33

      "It's not your fault" in Good Will Hunting uses the same rule in inverse. Repetition can be very powerful, but with both Princess Bride and Good Will Hunting the repetition elicits some discomfort from other characters, putting the person repeating dialogue in a position of control and forcing their point.

    • @heatherknopp3723
      @heatherknopp3723 Рік тому +10

      It's all in the delivery!

  • @t2nexx561
    @t2nexx561 Рік тому +279

    Anybody else start dying seeing yoda say “yo Luke”

  • @Ronno765
    @Ronno765 Рік тому +44

    One of the better non-silent comebacks is also in "The Dark Knight":
    Joker: "I like it when they fight back."
    Batman (appearing on the scene): "Then you'll love me."

  • @permixtg4322
    @permixtg4322 9 місяців тому +27

    Just a small point on the use of names. Saying somebody's name repeatedly during a conversation is actually a manipulation tactic. It's used by scammers and salesmen all the time. It's a tactic to try and quickly build the facade of a bond and get you to trust them. So if used in that context I think it could bring a lot to a scene.

    • @zakosist
      @zakosist 9 місяців тому +3

      I think that would be a good way to use name calling. Now I know to be suspicious of people who say my name too often.

    • @Minceraft69
      @Minceraft69 4 місяці тому +8

      "Rose, i need you to read me out the numbers on the back of your credit card. And the name of your first pet, Rose."

  • @byucatch22
    @byucatch22 Рік тому +858

    Every single line the Joker says in the TDK is brilliant writing. Can't convince me otherwise.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +96

      Amen to that

    • @joeshmoe7967
      @joeshmoe7967 Рік тому +61

      The writing and Heath's portrayal, blew me away, and it was so 'out there', in terms of the Joker, it still kills, all these years later. Best of the series, the last one, was meh to me, not even in the same league as the Dark Knight.
      What made it better is I was on vacation, and was have a great time already, and saw an outstanding movie. That happed one other time I was on a trip and took in Pulp Fiction. Left the theatre and was just wow, a movie like I had never experience before. - Cheers

    • @andymouse
      @andymouse Рік тому +3

      Amen to that.......2

    • @MattrickBT
      @MattrickBT Рік тому +23

      I'm surprised I don't see people bring up the blatant hypocrisy of Joker though. When he speaks to Dent in the hospital, he says he can't stand Gordon and others because they're all schemers, yet this is the same guy who purposely got captured and planted a bomb in someone in one grand scheme. He also tells Dent he isn't a man with a plan and he's like a dog chasing cars, and yet when he has the bombs planted on the boats, he's reading his speech off a piece of paper. Joker is actually a very meticulous schemer down to the last detail. It could even be argued he's only delivering this speech to Dent in order to make Dent do what he wants him to do, which is another one of his schemes. But people seem to interpret TDK's Joker as characterized by what he tells Dent.

    • @organs
      @organs Рік тому +3

      My one gripe is "Dent? He's just the beginning…".
      Beginning of what? Because Batman and Gordon preceded him by a year. Wouldn't it be more accurate to say "He's just a DA."? I mean, to a mobster, a DA is a big deal, but to a mob running the city, maybe not so much.

  • @ultramadscientist
    @ultramadscientist Рік тому +593

    I think you actually entirely missed the reason the Flower Shop Scene dialogue doesn't work in the Room. Sure the scene is unimportant to the plot and could be cut, but the issue is that the two actors ARE NOT RESPONDING TO EACH OTHER. Their lines are delivered as if they're direct responses to the line two lines ago. The sense of timing is warped so completely it feels alien. A version of the flower shop scene where they simply responded to each other in time would feel infinitely more natural if still unnecessary to the story.

    • @davidg11235
      @davidg11235 Рік тому +66

      I remember being struck by both the pointlessness of the scene and the bad acting. Watching it again now, it almost seems like what you’d get if you walked into a shop with a camera and convinced the person working there to let you film buying something from them. Then layered the audio of lines like “You’re my favorite customer” on top of the limited footage.

    • @RR_theproahole
      @RR_theproahole Рік тому +49

      Also the dialogues are like someone's talking to a chatbot. Rather than being too natural, they are unnatural, humans don't say things like "You are my favourite customer", they convey this with their actions like predicting what the other person's gonna choose or behaving in a remarkably friendly way, friendlier than they behave with others.

    • @flankspeed
      @flankspeed Рік тому +22

      It feels like some language students trying to reassemble individual sentences into a conversation.

    • @GweiTheLeafChild
      @GweiTheLeafChild Рік тому +18

      It's both bad dialogue, and bad filmmaking. It seems like a poor use of ADR to make up for what is probably a bad take due to how noisy the shots in the flower shop probably is.

    • @chrisbirch4150
      @chrisbirch4150 Рік тому

      m.ua-cam.com/video/K40IToeN51Y/v-deo.html&pp=ygUWRGlzYXN0ZXIgYXJ0aXN0IGV4ZXJwdA%3D%3D
      That is an excerpt from the Disaster Artist audiobook , where Gregg Sestero talks about filming that scene. It's absolutely hysterical

  • @eugeneimbangyorteza
    @eugeneimbangyorteza 11 місяців тому +53

    Almost any dialogue is better than 100 repetitions of "You are my queen"

    • @jkta97
      @jkta97 4 місяці тому +2

      Or “I don’t want it” lol

  • @Joseph-zi2pe
    @Joseph-zi2pe 11 місяців тому +36

    See, i dont mind the "rose, rose, rose" stuff in titanic because i think it makes sense for Jack to be trying his best to keep her calm and in the moment. Hes trying his best to be chill and to keep her distracted from the gravity of the situation.

  • @alexbadeau5027
    @alexbadeau5027 Рік тому +1129

    Great video Brandon, I liked Brandon how you mentioned Brandon that constantly saying someone’s name Brandon is unnatural and superfluous Brandon !

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +296

      You're spot on, Alex! Thanks for watching, Alex. And, Alex, if you ever want me to cover a specific topic in the future, Alex, let me know, Alex!

    • @iosyntropy
      @iosyntropy Рік тому +17

      hahaha!

    • @bv657
      @bv657 Рік тому +82

      @@WriterBrandonMcNulty hey morty we’re going on an adventure morty it’s gonna be fun morty just me and you morty

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +43

      @@bv657 Winner.

    • @bv657
      @bv657 Рік тому +12

      @@WriterBrandonMcNulty lmao while I got your attention I was curious if I can pay you to critique some of my writing! If not I totally understand

  • @annajoiedavis7395
    @annajoiedavis7395 Рік тому +261

    Good Will Hunting has the best example of impactful line repetition with the "It's not your fault" scene.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +47

      Great call on that one. Need to rewatch GWH one of these days

    • @arinerm1331
      @arinerm1331 Рік тому +17

      @@WriterBrandonMcNulty "He stole my line" may have been the greatest movie improv ever.

    • @Chrislmisl
      @Chrislmisl Рік тому +1

      That was also the first scene i thought about.

    • @LargeAndRobustPeter
      @LargeAndRobustPeter Рік тому

      i thought it was a touch corny...

    • @seamusburke639
      @seamusburke639 Рік тому +10

      I love the back-and-forth when Chuckie finally calls Will out on not taking the job. It pierces Will's whole emotional dilemma and puts him on his ear.
      "You don't owe it to yourself. You owe it to me."

  • @LuMartinelli
    @LuMartinelli Рік тому +112

    Two lines of dialogue between Fredo and Michael and not only you already know everything about the dynamics of their relationship, but they also set the entire tone of the movie for anyone who never saw it. So masterful.

  • @GRIMGORIRONHIDEROCKS
    @GRIMGORIRONHIDEROCKS Рік тому +14

    I disagree about the “Rose!” / “Jack” scene, because I think it fits the context of the scene.
    I’ve noticed a lot more name addressing in high stress situations because I think it helps people focus on what they’re being told because their minds are in a hundred places at once.
    You see that all the time in the emergency services where the paramedics will constantly address injured people by their names before letting them know what they’re going to do next to them.
    I found myself doing in fact when I’m trying to keep someone calm in the few life or death situations I’ve found myself in

  • @michaelchoi8044
    @michaelchoi8044 Рік тому +226

    I’m not a writer, don’t know how I found this channel, but learning this is strangely very appealing.

  • @nathanielwaterfill9748
    @nathanielwaterfill9748 Рік тому +374

    Always interpreted the Titanic scene as Jack trying to ground Rose in an emergency situation to keep her cool. Doesn’t bother me cause it has a purpose.

    • @RuddsReels
      @RuddsReels Рік тому +17

      Yes, good point!

    • @ricardoincog
      @ricardoincog Рік тому +13

      I agree

    • @Ned-Ryerson
      @Ned-Ryerson Рік тому +12

      I don't think so. They are close, intimate, they know each other. They can speak without honorifics, as the Asians would say. If you had a conversation like theirs, you would not waste time on calling that name all this time.

    • @rapturedmourning
      @rapturedmourning Рік тому +24

      It may have been intended that way as written, but the actress didn't give us "distracted/freaking-out" body language.

    • @XXLRebel
      @XXLRebel Рік тому +12

      Exactly, I just made this point in a comment and was looking for similar comments. He really overlooked that very important point. You see this in war movies too where they are under fire or someone is injured and panicking. Really grounds you to the situation at hand.

  • @slash903
    @slash903 9 місяців тому +13

    I think a whole video could be made on Vader's line "The Force is with you, young Skywalker, but you are not a Jedi yet." So much implication and subtext in just that one line: "You have ample skill, but you have come here looking for a fight and you are overmatched."
    So good. Gives me chills every time I see it.

  • @anzor.nakayev
    @anzor.nakayev Рік тому +43

    Man! Am I the only one who was smiling, during the Rocky scene?
    Now that’s how the really good movie works: it brings you emotions and memories. Classic 👍

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +7

      Amazing movie. Has so much charm and heart

    • @anzor.nakayev
      @anzor.nakayev Рік тому +1

      @@WriterBrandonMcNulty 100%

    • @ekinteko
      @ekinteko 10 місяців тому +4

      @@WriterBrandonMcNulty Just one quick note. With the Dark Knight Rises, if they flipped the order it actually would NOT have been a bad dialogue.
      Batman: I have come back to finally stop you.
      Bane: No, you have come to die with your city.
      See?

    • @jkta97
      @jkta97 4 місяці тому +1

      With the exception of the somewhat cheesy (but still heartwarming ending), Rocky is a damn perfect movie. A masterclass in writing and acting.

  • @chrismonks592
    @chrismonks592 Рік тому +326

    I think originally in The empire strikes back when solo is frozen and leya says I love you he was gonna say I love you to. But they decided it wasn't something he would say so they changed it to "I know " which works brilliantly I think

    • @oliverford5367
      @oliverford5367 Рік тому +52

      Yes that and the "scoundrel" scene is good romantic dialogue. It's so different from Attack of the Clones, and shows that Lucas badly needed writing help with the prequels.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +91

      Yeah, I'm pretty sure Harrison Ford came up with the line "I know." If you know the backstory between Ford and Carried Fisher, it gets reeeeeaaaall interesting.

    • @billyb4790
      @billyb4790 Рік тому +4

      It really does. All the way down to him getting frozen a second later.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Рік тому +13

      ​​@@oliverford5367 no, it shows that Anakin Skywalker is NOT GODDAMN HAN SOLO! As much as I dislike Lucas' prequel writing with midichlorians and younglingers, the fact that Annie is NOT a snarky cynical smuggler with street smarts but an idealistic orphan brought in a literal monastery is not bad writing, it's him being a completely different character. Different personality, background, ideals, everything...
      You can't seriously expect Aragorn to speak like Pippin or Cloud Strife to become a scoundrel like Balthier! We don't say that Murdoch is worse written than Martin Riggs simply because he's the "by the book" part of the buddy cop series. Hell, Luke in originals didn't talk like Han either and was closer to farm boy turned knight errant than the rogue sidekick. They literally argue about him being old fashioned and naive in A New Hope FFS.

    • @adrianmizen5070
      @adrianmizen5070 Рік тому +31

      @@KasumiRINA Padme's dialogue in the romantic scenes is just as terrible, and her character is older and much more worldly (wasn't she ruler of a planet before?). If it had been a contrast of her smoothness to his awkwardness that might have worked, but it wasn't, everybody was awkward and stilted.

  • @danijobi
    @danijobi Рік тому +138

    Lame comebacks can be amazing in comedies or when you have a character that is defined by their awkwardness or nonchalance. My favourite examples are the Big Lebowski‘s legendary „We’ll, that‘s, like, your opinion, man.“ and the Battle between Cera and Routh in Scott Pilgrim vs The World, where they just trade really bad threats that instantly fall flat, like „Tell it to the cleaning lady on Monday“ or „You once were a vegone….“

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +49

      Good point. Soon as I read this, I thought of George Costanza's "The jerk store called, and they're running out of you!"

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Рік тому +3

      They also work when character is super badass, the BEST comeback of all time is Shepard answering the realistic UN-levels of impotence Council member mocking Shepard after being proven wrong:
      "Humans have a saying, even a broken clock is right twice a day" and Shep answers "here's another saying: go to Hell" and Joker cuts the feed.
      That's like Melnyk telling Elon Musk to "fuck off." The short form of "we're tired of your uppity asses Westsplaining to us and won't bother repeating the same tired reasoning of us being proven right over and over and you constantly being wrong, unhelpful and annoying, so respectfully, clear the air".
      Superhero telling villain they're only here to kill him would be badass if they weren't wearing a rubber nipple suit... Shame we can't even hear that dialogue though. I wonder how Bale would actually sound if these movies had spoken words and not just noise and grunts lol.

    • @metademetra
      @metademetra Рік тому +10

      Scooby Doo 2:
      Kids: "How's it going losers"
      Daphne:..."HEY! Shut up!"
      Pure poetry.

    • @roonilwazlib9877
      @roonilwazlib9877 Рік тому +5

      Dodgeball has Ben Stiller deliver some great terrible comebacks.

    • @Jiggs316
      @Jiggs316 Рік тому

      @@roonilwazlib9877 You're going down like a sweet muffin, Lafluer

  • @Jbar1011
    @Jbar1011 5 місяців тому +8

    I’m in software sales and recently randomly started studying storytelling and it’s led me down this path to dialogue and it’s so relevant for pitching / sales conversations and general speech. It’s in completely different terminology, but it’s helping me link concepts via association in my brain and I can tell that this is super effective learning. So thank you!

  • @For0489
    @For0489 Рік тому +23

    I'm glad you used Rocky as an example of good dialogue. Rocky movies get credit for being fun boxing movies but those first two rocky movies as well as Rocky 6 should get so much more credit for how incredible the writing was.

    • @1minion203
      @1minion203 Рік тому +2

      I hadn't known Stallone wrote them until recently. I'm not a huge fan of the films, or boxing generally, but I think he did a really good job writing those characters, the realism and the heart of them. He did well.

    • @MadMalMan
      @MadMalMan 9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah the Dialogue is awkward, clumsy it isn't very intelligent but it always has meaning behind it. So it fits the Character PERFECTLY.

    • @One.Zero.One101
      @One.Zero.One101 9 місяців тому +3

      The scene where Mickey was begging to train Rocky, that dialogue stacks up with any award-winning screenplay.

    • @jkta97
      @jkta97 4 місяці тому

      @@One.Zero.One101It’s also a good example of repetition through his use of the phrase “You need a manager.” Each time, he says that line, you get something new: his attempt to sell himself, his growing frustration over not convincing Rocky, and his own sadness over not being able to fulfill his own dreams as a boxer.

  • @piecrumbs9951
    @piecrumbs9951 Рік тому +23

    10:56 "You are muh queen, I dunno what else I can say"
    Yeah it's really starting to seem that way

  • @DPKGrey
    @DPKGrey Рік тому +93

    Honestly I thought the doctor scene in requiem of a dream was a bit too silent. After the doctor takes the drugs off the counter, I would have given Jared Letto's character a line like "it's morbin time."

  • @MattrickBT
    @MattrickBT Рік тому +10

    On the point of Attack/Defend, I think a simple thing to keep in mind when writing dialogue is that everything should be motivated. Even innocuous small talk can be motivated by so many things, and a lot of those motivations comes out in the performances and the delivery. There should be a purpose for all dialogue, and it should typically reveal something about a character and their motivations. This is why expository dialogue is simply the worst because it doesn't reveal character, nor is it motivated. A good writer can deliver exposition through dialogue while simultaneously developing their character and revealing their motivations.

  • @TheKolen2434
    @TheKolen2434 11 місяців тому +44

    Some of the absolute best dialog in film takes place in Pulp Fiction. So much of it is 100% unnecessary to the plot, but, its so damn "real" that youre pulled straight into it. Brilliant

    • @brandonbuchner1771
      @brandonbuchner1771 5 місяців тому +5

      It's crazy how Tarantino can do that. The Royale with Cheese scene is iconic despite having 0 use to the plot. Same with the scene about tipping in reservoir dogs. But something about writing the mundane just works with Tarantino. I don't get it.

    • @O4C209
      @O4C209 4 місяці тому +4

      Those scenes are to show the personalities of the characters and get you to like/ invest in them. The idea is to make a relatable/ likeable character that then does horrible things.

    • @xShadowChrisx
      @xShadowChrisx 4 місяці тому +1

      Tarantino knows how to break rules

  • @stvbrsn
    @stvbrsn Рік тому +757

    Maybe I’m getting a little too meta with this, but I think Jack repeating Rose’s name is actually a fairly natural depiction of the kind of anomalous speech patterns that can emerge in times of utter stress.

    • @VolvoxSocks
      @VolvoxSocks Рік тому +197

      I don't mind it, it gives a vibe that he's trying to calm her down and helping her focus. Reminds me of safety training when they tell you to specify people to do tasks rather than being general e.g. 'you, call and ambulance' vs. 'someone call an ambulance'.

    • @GalinDray
      @GalinDray Рік тому +107

      This would make sense if it was the only time Jack does this, but it's a problem throughout the movie. Always bothered me how much he called her by name, it made him sound like a cult leader who repeats the name of someone to create a false sense of intimacy.

    • @bronumero7334
      @bronumero7334 Рік тому +38

      @@GalinDray LMAO me using people's names to make them psycholgically more fond of me.

    • @NotSoMuchFrankly
      @NotSoMuchFrankly Рік тому +10

      @@bronumero7334 IKR Not that they were doing this here but usually it's so effen condescending.😒
      Fun fact: Originally her name was Marco and his name was Polo...cuz...all the water and stuff.

    • @willmeredith5082
      @willmeredith5082 Рік тому +6

      Came here to say the same thing 😂

  • @whosaidthat84
    @whosaidthat84 Рік тому +151

    The Rose scene cracked me up 😂 On another note, I know this isn't exactly the type of video to mention this but I think new writers should know that bad dialogue is okay to have in your early drafts, but it should be recognizable during revisions. Too often they disrupt their writing flow and never get projects done. Loved the video btw.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +38

      Thanks, and you're 100% right. Perfecting dialogue at the early stages is usually a waste of time, since you may end up cutting the entire scene during revisions

    • @Vandylizer
      @Vandylizer Рік тому +21

      @@WriterBrandonMcNulty I love the Titanic example, it's so melodramatic and apropos:
      My ex and I back in college used to mock this endlessly. When we saw each other other campus I would yell from afar, "RRROWS!" And she'd yell back, "COLUMNS!"
      (Obvously I love puns, but a Rose by any other name would not be just as sweet, haha #Rows!)

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +8

      @@Vandylizer Hahaha! If Microsoft ever needs to advertise their Excel app, they gotta call you

    • @Vandylizer
      @Vandylizer Рік тому +9

      @@WriterBrandonMcNulty Word! 🤙

    • @thisfoodhits6205
      @thisfoodhits6205 Рік тому +1

      I appreciate you pointing this out! It helps forward momentum to not worry about weak dialogue on a first draft.

  • @erakfishfishfish
    @erakfishfishfish 11 місяців тому +16

    I can honestly see Rocky speaking Yoda’s dialogue. With the amount of devastating punches to the head he’s taken, it wouldn’t sound surprising at all to hear him jumble up the order of his words.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  11 місяців тому +3

      Haha especially after fighting Drago

    • @jorahkai
      @jorahkai 3 місяці тому

      When the distance I go, a champion I will become

  • @doinggreatcomedy3810
    @doinggreatcomedy3810 Рік тому +4

    Love it. It all comes down to “show don’t tell”. That concept is everything. Just apply it to every aspect of writing and it works.

  • @dUFGoLZ
    @dUFGoLZ Рік тому +66

    "The Curse of Monkey Island" has one of the most hillarious comebacks:
    Rottingham: "Every enemy I've met, I've annihilated!"
    Guybrush: "Oh yeah? Well... you fight like a cow!"

    • @AdderTude
      @AdderTude Рік тому +22

      Just the fact that the point of duels is never the actual fighting but just insults and comebacks is why Monkey Island makes for great parody.

    • @davidvosspoor4694
      @davidvosspoor4694 Рік тому +12

      with your breath I'm sure they all suffocated

    • @RiKxWolfman
      @RiKxWolfman Місяць тому

      @@davidvosspoor4694 how appropriate you fight like a cow!

  • @GiovanniV69
    @GiovanniV69 Рік тому +10

    The Crow is an amazing movie. It's not perfect, but is truly iconic.
    The "preachy" lines may seem that way, but it a way for him to try to get through to her.

  • @countgiraffe6661
    @countgiraffe6661 11 місяців тому +8

    Hey man, great video!
    With the morphine scene from The Crow, the dialog is fairly realistic, at least in my experience as an EMT. Where I live, we deal with a lot of ODs. As odd as it sounds, often we have to speak to these patients in a similar fashion. Doing so helps to "break the spell" over them in a way. Having someone tell them the obvious helps the reality of it click it.

    • @actinium2754
      @actinium2754 11 місяців тому +3

      It's similar in psychology. I don't think enough people understand that what is obvious to a healthy individual is not so obvious to a distressed/sick individual; especially a sick individual who is surrounded by people affirming their actions and/or has become a creature of habit.

    • @countgiraffe6661
      @countgiraffe6661 11 місяців тому +2

      @slithy2754 exactly. Confrontation is important. We're taught not to talk down to the patient like a child but to be forward; (Blank) is killing you/destroying your life, etc. They need someone to be direct instead of the enabling given to them by others.

  • @benmohatun
    @benmohatun 11 місяців тому

    This is one of those times I'm actually happy with YT's suggestions. Great job on this analysis, I completely agree with your arguments.

  • @danijobi
    @danijobi Рік тому +84

    If you do a third part, there's a specific exmple of bad dialogue writing that I often find in beginner screenplays (as a screenwriteing teacher and dramaturg here in Germany). I haven't heard of "As you know, Bob", but there is a similar form of the "telling instead of showing" problem that my mentor used to call the "Hello, I've come here to..." syndrome. This is when characters state their name, objective and relationship to everyone when walking into the door. It's a sneaky one, because on the surface it fulfills the requirement of "establish goal and conflicts for the dialogie scene", but... not like THAT! I struggle to think of any examples in professional screenplays, but I feel the 80s action movies are full of stuff like that. This can also happen vicariously through other characters, as a "He's come here to..." The most famous example is the dreadful introduction of Katana in Suicide Squad. An example of how to do this right is maybe the Usual Suspects with their precise and character-focussed yoice-over introduction round (having scene flashbacks to illustrate the introduction helps instead of having them just stand there)

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +17

      I feel like a lot of cop and federal agent characters get introduced this way. They knock on someone's door and say, "Hi, I'm Agent Jones with the FBI, and..."

    • @nathanliteroy9835
      @nathanliteroy9835 Рік тому +2

      Encountered this in one book series, was so irritating, like, you're a pro, why instead of direct confrontation of some sort your characters keep talking about what character who's not present is feeling and what their motivation is? Either make joint plan of how to act, or trasfer it into an interaction with a person they are talking about!

    • @peterhorus3874
      @peterhorus3874 Рік тому +22

      But then you also have one of the greatest lines in cinema history:
      In They Live when John Nada enters the bank: "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum."

    • @markkreitler519
      @markkreitler519 Рік тому +10

      With the exception of: "I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass...and I'm all out of bubble gum."

    • @frufruJ
      @frufruJ Рік тому +26

      "Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."

  • @jchacho6335
    @jchacho6335 Рік тому +60

    The original Star Wars movies are great, but I never thought they could be used as examples of good dialogue. It’s hilarious that the one instance used is when there’s no dialogue. Love it.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +4

      Hahaha!

    • @HarryPujols
      @HarryPujols Рік тому +9

      So much legendary dialog in the original trilogy, specifically from Darth Vader, Yoda… The Empire Strikes Back is a goldmine of legendary dialog, everyone remembers what Han replied to Leia when she said to him “I love you”

    • @jchacho6335
      @jchacho6335 Рік тому +3

      @@HarryPujols yes, Han replied to Leia in a famously non-scripted way.

    • @davidvosspoor4694
      @davidvosspoor4694 Рік тому +2

      Oh man!! George Lucas could teach a post-doc seminar on bad dialogue, but there are some gems too. I like Obi Wan's burn about the fool or the fool who follows him. A legend!

    • @elasmojones
      @elasmojones 11 місяців тому +1

      That wizard’s just a crazy old man.

  • @TheKulu42
    @TheKulu42 11 місяців тому +1

    I've given me a lot of ideas and shown me where I need to adjust the dialogue in a tale I'm writing. I especially like how you give us good examples verses bad examples. Thanks!

  • @asdfghjk1576
    @asdfghjk1576 Рік тому

    Great video, Brandon! This video taught me a lot about the importance of good dialogue. You’re my favorite UA-camr. Definitely my favorite UA-camr.

  • @saketh008
    @saketh008 Рік тому +32

    much helpful,man. surprising to know even great movies have bad dislogues

  • @Nerv0u5
    @Nerv0u5 Рік тому +4

    Hey Brandon, I enjoy the fact that you show us examples of what you'd consider to be good writing and bad writing. This is helpful, informative, and allows us to SEE why it can be considered good or bad. Keep up the excellent work man. I'm using your videos to help me write better character dialogue in my video edits!

  • @84bandit21
    @84bandit21 11 місяців тому +7

    Love the video. Whenever I think of masterful dialogue, I think of Alfie Solomons from Peaky Blinders. I’ve never seen such long, meandering, and in the moment seemingly pointless dialogue be used to advance plot points and character development when it later gets brought back into focus. The ship scene between Tommy and Alfie from the later seasons is one example. The first time those same two characters meet is another. Tommy walks into Alfie’s office with all this “secret” knowledge about Alfie and his operation that he attempts to use to intimidate him. Including the line “I know you keep a loaded revolver in the bottom RIGHT drawer of your desk.” But then Alfie replies something along the lines of “but that’s the problem with information mate, is that a lot of times when that information comes to light it’s already too late” and he whips a revolver out of the bottom LEFT hand drawer and points it at Tommy’s head.
    Just an epic confrontation and power struggle between two main characters that isn’t spoon fed to you, and you as the audience have to really be paying attention to even catch what’s going on.
    Would love to see your take on some of the Peaky blinders dialogue!

  • @EdgarDiaz-pt4qx
    @EdgarDiaz-pt4qx 11 місяців тому +1

    Wow, UA-cam pushed this video to me today and I’m sure glad I discovered your channel! I absolutely love analyzing writing of movies and tv shows so this was right up my alley. Amazing vid and great examples! Definitely going to check out one of your books sir!

  • @sebastiandinapoli3912
    @sebastiandinapoli3912 Рік тому +8

    When you talked about using a character's name constantly, it reminded me of the 80's cartoons that were basically 30min commercials for the toys. So the characters HAD to keep using names so the kids would know the name of the toy they wanted to buy.

  • @tiefejo
    @tiefejo Рік тому +28

    One of my favourite dialogues is from Godfather 2 where Tom Hagen visits Frank Pentangeli at the FBI. They started with small talk about Frank's brother then Roman Empire and Corleone Family History. The dialogue gets more tension to the point Tom mentioned about the plotters get their chance to get their family safe. The deal is sealed with a handshake.
    So good. Tom basically told him to take his life. And it doesn't hit the viewers hard until we see Frank in the bathroom in the Death Montage.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +5

      I just rewatched Godfather 2 last week, and you're right--that's a great exchange with some awesome foreshadowing

    • @asmith3846
      @asmith3846 11 місяців тому

      "Don't worry about anything, Frankie FiveAngels." A classic scene between two supporting characters.

  • @MUCKLEECH
    @MUCKLEECH 11 місяців тому +1

    Just discovered this channel, and I love it. Such good insight and explains why so many scenes in movies feel cringey, and what the writers could have done do make it work.

  • @acalvillo35
    @acalvillo35 3 місяці тому

    I've been searching through videos to help with dialogue and these last two videos have been so helpful. Thank you! Please keep doing your thing

  • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
    @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +7

    What other dialogue examples fit the five categories I mentioned? Let us know!

    • @oliverford5367
      @oliverford5367 Рік тому +1

      Aaron Sorkin can be great, but occasionally he puts in his own beliefs into the mouth of his characters and they go on long preachy rants filled with tons of facts and statistics. The "America isn't the greatest country anymore" speech in his The Newsroom has a character say things like "we're 7th in literacy, number 4 in exports" and go on about how America ain't what it used to be. Everyone else in the room just stops and listens like their minds are blown.
      His best work like The Social Network doesn't have that. It's got his intellectual style, but all the dialogue is a back-and-forth between intelligent people. There's never a character who stops dumbfounded by an argument they've never heard.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +1

      @@oliverford5367 Haven’t seen The Newsroom but that sounds like an example for preachiness to me. Will have to watch it one of these days for context

    • @oliverford5367
      @oliverford5367 Рік тому

      @@WriterBrandonMcNulty ua-cam.com/video/bIpKfw17-yY/v-deo.html

    • @DarinAtkins
      @DarinAtkins Рік тому

      There’s a specific scene in the first Black Panther that comes to mind. It’s the scene when Killmonger see’s that T’challa(Black Panther) is still alive and is walking towards him and when the camera cuts back to Killmonger he says “Wassup!” In a joking tone. To me that ruined that moment it would’ve been better if he didn’t say anything or a simple command “get him” would’ve worked.

  • @scottsponaas
    @scottsponaas Рік тому +7

    Another great video! I find these dialog videos helpful because I almost always end up finding a spot in my story where I made one of these mistakes. Your videos keep me constantly evaluating my dialog and making sure I’m adding value to the story with it, not just adding filler.

  • @hydra9627
    @hydra9627 Рік тому +1

    These videos are awesome, I'm about to go into a writing project with a premise that I'm not used to and this information is definitely gonna help, thanks for the video dude.

  • @musicman2569
    @musicman2569 Рік тому +2

    I can't believe I never noticed that in The Crow. Great example and thank you for pointing out the Jack and Rose scene. I've been waiting for ages for someone to point that out.

  • @bentendo9474
    @bentendo9474 Рік тому +4

    That “of course not” the joker says after Gordon says Harvey didn’t make it home is perfect. There’s a plethora of things he could’ve said in response that would’ve been appropriate but that “of course not” just has so much subtext and feels so natural for that moment

  • @kjdee140
    @kjdee140 Рік тому +6

    When I'm writing dialogue, I make sure that the conversation reveals a new little piece of information to the audience in every page.

  • @adulthumanfemale8666
    @adulthumanfemale8666 7 місяців тому

    These examples are amazing! Thank you so much, Brandon!

  • @Ashnarath
    @Ashnarath 5 днів тому

    Hey, Brandon. I attended a play in my city tonight (original script), and it was amazing not only to catch right away the bad dialogues vs the good ones but also to understand the reasons for them to be good or bad. Thanks a lot, your videos are amazing

  • @TrevorDuran3390
    @TrevorDuran3390 Рік тому +14

    Hello, Brandon McNulty. Great video Brandon McNulty. For me, the most important point was not making dialogue too real. I often get lost in that. It does make scenes mundane. I think the Dresden Files did a great job of toeing that line.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +3

      JT! Hey, JT. Thanks for the response, JT. It's been a while since I read any Dresden books, JT, but I think you're right, JT.

  • @chloemchll3774
    @chloemchll3774 Рік тому +9

    Love the inclusion of the Batman vs Empire example.
    I often think one of the main markers of bad dialogue is when saying nothing would be more effective than what is said, and these two examples demonstrate exactly how and why that’s the case.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +2

      Yep it goes back to the old cliche "actions speak louder than words"

    • @chloemchll3774
      @chloemchll3774 Рік тому

      @@WriterBrandonMcNulty and it’s close cousin “show the audience don’t tell them.”

    • @jkta97
      @jkta97 4 місяці тому

      Do first, speak if you must.

  • @CamDominusRex
    @CamDominusRex 11 місяців тому +7

    I felt like Travis Fimmel as Ragnar in Vikings is one of the best overall examples of how silence and body language can speak volumes

  • @christopherthomas9041
    @christopherthomas9041 11 місяців тому +19

    The Star Wars example was spot on. Unfortunately George Lucas did the very opposite in 'The Return of the Jedi' retcon - Vaders 'no, No, NO!' dub when saving Luke. It completely ruined the original where he simply acted and said nothing at all.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  11 місяців тому +2

      Yep, some things are better off left alone. Especially major moments like that

  • @afrosymphony8207
    @afrosymphony8207 Рік тому +3

    i swear the room is an unintended masterpiece...the "you're my favourite customer" line destroys me everytime 😭😭😂😂😂😂

  • @gamewriteeye769
    @gamewriteeye769 Рік тому +31

    Good dialogue is the essence of a scene. Bad dialogue is the whisper of a scene.
    I use a lot of dialogue and action, so I will keep it in mind. Very informative as always, mate 👍

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +5

      Action and gestures are critical during dialogue exchanges. Especially if you put any stock into those studies about how only 17% of communication is verbal.

  • @jarsenberg
    @jarsenberg 11 місяців тому +1

    I love that you mentioned name calling; it’s always been one of my biggest dialogue pet peeves. I remember it especially annoying me in Lost, particularly with John.

  • @RicardoRodriguez-mw7be
    @RicardoRodriguez-mw7be 11 місяців тому +1

    That silence comeback was a great explanation. Amazing video.

    • @cathalduffy3739
      @cathalduffy3739 11 місяців тому

      While I agree about Luke's silence being powerful, I think what made Batman's line so bad was purely the delivery. The 'No..' followed by the large pause and then the 'I came to stop you' made it sound like he was trying to come up with something witty and failed miserably. If, after Bane's question, Batman straight away said 'I came to stop you' and attacked without hesitation, it would have been immensely more bearable, and shown the opposite: That Batman doesn't care for quips or banter and is here purely for justice, not some vengeance or hurt pride against Bane.

  • @dianamgallagher
    @dianamgallagher Рік тому +10

    One of my favorite shows for dialogue is The Sopranos. The characters speak to each other, but there are underlying tones in each conversation as they try to figure out if someone is to be trusted, and everyone is jockeying for power or to be recognized by those in charge, but danger is always present.

  • @jhart1127
    @jhart1127 11 місяців тому +3

    Youre wrong with the intent of the character Jack repeatedly saying Rose. He's using it to portray trust and belief. Cheering her on and giving up her spirits.

  • @Fugazity
    @Fugazity 8 місяців тому

    love this channel because it uses examples of movies that i actually see.

  • @asrexproductions
    @asrexproductions Рік тому +2

    LOVED this video, and probably will love this series. Your point #2 in particular, about dialogue having meaning, either finding out or concealing something, and always hiding the speaker's true intentions is a rule I will use in writing from now on. I am notorious for having bad, overly-clever dialogue in my screenwriting that undermines anything else I'm trying to do because I always thought good dialogue was just that, the most "clever." In a screenwriters' group however, one of the other writers tried to explain to me that this made my characters seem elitist or arrogant, like it was all just a game of "one-upsmanship," so nothing they said seemed to really matter. I think your point #2 finally explained to me where I've been going wrong. Thank you! 😀

  • @Andrewtr6
    @Andrewtr6 Рік тому +56

    The biggest problem with preachy dialogue that I find, is how heavily it gets defended by those that are drinking the coolaid. Whenever I criticize a dialogue or a story in general as being preachy, it's often people who agree with the message who defend it and they assume I don't agree with it because I'm criticizing it. This just isn't the case. No matter how much I may or may not agree with something, if it feels preachy, I'm going to call it out for that. The people defending it care more about the message than the actual story. I care more about the writing than the message.
    It's very common for comic book writers over at Marvel and DC to stick their hand up a character's ass and use them as a propaganda puppet. This is when the character says whatever the writer believes whether it fits with the character or not. Doing this almost always breaks the characters voice so, it no longer sounds like the character. Since it's often a political message, it's very hard to criticize this type of dialogue writing without the words "bigot" or "hate speech" being thrown around. What's most annoying about it is if the people read my writing they wouldn't jump to assumptions.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +23

      "The biggest problem with preachy dialogue that I find, is how heavily it gets defended by those that are drinking the coolaid."
      Yes. Spot on... Stories are supposed to express themes, but there's a better way of doing that than having characters baldly state the author's beliefs.

    • @juju10683
      @juju10683 Рік тому +4

      @@WriterBrandonMcNulty can you comment on the line between preachy dialogue and good dialogue from a character who is central to the philosophical conflict? In Whiplash the instructor says "the most damaging words in the English language are Good Job." I don't think anyone is certain the author agrees with this. But we know for certain the instructor does. And we know the excellent screenplay examines the idea from different angles. A bad example is Zoe Kravitz line from The Batman about white privilege. I do not recall any of the character actions or central conflicts in the film exploring the concept of white privilege.

    • @stoopidapples1596
      @stoopidapples1596 Рік тому +3

      Not sure what "preachy" message you are talking about with Marvel movies that would make you seem "bigoted." Those movies are the pinnacle of conservative propaganda. Ever noticed that every villain wants to change the world, and every hero only wants to conserve it?

    • @juju10683
      @juju10683 Рік тому

      @@stoopidapples1596 Yeah a strong argument could be made that it is all military industrial complex, globalist, and consumerist propaganda

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Рік тому

      Preachy like South Park or like Metal Gear Solid? There's a thing called "author filibuster" and it could be good or bad depending on writer. A good example is Kikuchiyo in the Seven Samurai. Akira Kurosawa comes from feudal class and highlights that peasants are like that because of the way they were mistreated all this time. Rest is spoilers.
      Another good example is Hamlet absolutely roasting the actors overacting, something that's relevant even today, though there's much less femboys on stage now... But obviously most writers aren't even close to Shakespeare.
      But on the polar opposite, there's environmentalist messages in Birdemic and the philosophical ramblings about "is it morally right to stab two old women for pocket change" in Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment.

  • @LordOfAllusion
    @LordOfAllusion Рік тому +8

    How about Falcon’s final speech from Falcon and Winter Soldier which is both preachy and on the nose with his, “You need to do better, Senator!”

  • @TheShapingSickness
    @TheShapingSickness Рік тому

    This video is amazing, I'm actually blown away. Subscribed inmediately.

  • @jonathanbowling2904
    @jonathanbowling2904 Рік тому

    Thank you Brandon. I like your video Brandon. I can't wait to watch more Brandon. Keep going Brandon!

  • @AlmostEthical
    @AlmostEthical Рік тому +6

    Love these dialogue videos. I'm up for episode 3, 4, 5 however many you want to do.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +4

      Thank you! I need to come up with some more types--don't want to repeat myself if I can help it

    • @terjidjurhuus1917
      @terjidjurhuus1917 Рік тому

      ​​@@WriterBrandonMcNulty actually, it would be great with a bunch more examples. So please do the same over again, if you can't come up with new stuff.

  • @nataliefarley3613
    @nataliefarley3613 11 місяців тому +3

    One of my favourite pieces of dialogue is in Smiley's People, when Esterhese says to George Smiley: "You're an old spy in a hurry George, you used to tell me they were the worst." He replies " Oh, they are. " A simple retort but it carries subtext as he's not talking about himself, but his KGB adversary Karla.

  • @Mighty_Atheismo
    @Mighty_Atheismo 11 місяців тому

    Man I am just loving the way your excellent analysis and application of technique comes out with your Pennsylvania accent. It gives your points the feel of a sophisticated and talented person speaking as opposed to some ramdom guy reciting his 100 undergrad writing course at me.
    Really great work. I like the way your rules arent hard and fast rules but more like common situations from which which bad dialogue arises to watch out for. Like I said, very sophisticated and skilled hand on display.
    Keep it up!

  • @infantryplankton
    @infantryplankton Місяць тому

    That last one hit hard. I’ve got a lot of scenes like that in my book. It just feels logical to have an answer to a tension-building question but saying nothing is sometimes better.

  • @williamzebub3252
    @williamzebub3252 11 місяців тому +9

    On the subject of name calling, I think the Hawkeye show handles this really well. When Yelena first meets Kate, she keeps calling her Kate Bishop. It's intentionally awkward and unnatural. Kate eventually realizes Yelena (who she knows nothing about) is doing this to intimidate her by showing that Yelena knows more about Kate than Kate knows about Yelena.

  • @charliesuchi85
    @charliesuchi85 Рік тому +66

    I'd like to add a thought to your point about the repetition of "You know nothing, Jon Snow" in GoT. I think a big part of the reason it works so well is because almost every time Ygritte says it, it means something different. This is a good example of G.R.R.Ms masterful use of alliteration. When she says it the first couple of times its very light and playful, but it becomes gradually more communicative as the context in which she says it shifts with the story. Depending on the context she is functionally saying a totally different phrase in every instance. "You know nothing, Jon Snow" when theyre cavorting in the mountains and giggling is totally different from "You know nothing, Jon Snow" when she has her bow drawn and an arrow aimed at his heart.

    • @SmokingBirds
      @SmokingBirds 10 місяців тому +7

      This is litterally exactly what the video said. ?

    • @kylezimmerman9690
      @kylezimmerman9690 10 місяців тому +4

      That is not what alliteration means…

    • @charliesuchi85
      @charliesuchi85 9 місяців тому +1

      @@kylezimmerman9690 you're right, i meant repetition.

    • @Selrisitai
      @Selrisitai 17 днів тому

      That's what the video already said.

  • @damienrockstarthholyonofg3103
    @damienrockstarthholyonofg3103 11 місяців тому

    Good stuff. I love your channel. Informative, thoughtful, original. I want to see more. Subscribed.

  • @viccypress6292
    @viccypress6292 11 місяців тому

    Bro I just stumbled upon your vid. You made me feel understood, when you break down the psychology. I be nod my head all the way witchu 💯

  • @sloppysteaks5813
    @sloppysteaks5813 Рік тому +83

    I think the overuse of Rose’s name in that scene was meant to convey trust, faith in her abilities, and to keep her focused, while maintaining a commanding tone. I imagine her name at that point felt good to say out loud after the agonizing time alone facing death. He can’t believe she’s back and uses her name repeatedly to almost convince himself she’s actually there. He’s thanking her for his relief with the use of her name. Psychologically, one’s own name is always a pleasant thing to hear.

    • @allrequiredfields
      @allrequiredfields Рік тому +6

      🙄

    • @theboofin
      @theboofin Рік тому +6

      Yeah, it's there for a reason. It's not like the Director didn't notice.

    • @DressedRunner
      @DressedRunner Рік тому +13

      Also, it was in a state of desperation, and he was trying to get her attention and to calm her down. I think the repeated name calling here is warranted.

    • @sloppysteaks5813
      @sloppysteaks5813 Рік тому +4

      @@DressedRunner agreed.

    • @RenBen10
      @RenBen10 11 місяців тому +5

      Also they’re in a life or death situation. So having a logical level of dialogue would be unrealistic.

  • @michaelprice6448
    @michaelprice6448 Рік тому +8

    Name calling is also appropriate of they're sparkling to convey meaning to a hidden observer, like the FBI agent who bigger them. This is a good tip for crime writers and mafia leaders.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому +1

      Good call. Certainly some other uses for it

    • @AlmostEthical
      @AlmostEthical Рік тому +2

      Or to make a point, like Agent Smith repeatedly calling Neo 'Mr Anderson'.

  • @timparker533
    @timparker533 9 місяців тому

    Excellent videos and you seem to pick some of my favorite movies

  • @coffeecreateconnect
    @coffeecreateconnect 10 місяців тому +1

    To keep it simple, thank you for your exceptional contribution to writers worldwide 🙏💞

  • @TheBeelzboss
    @TheBeelzboss Рік тому +5

    I think a really good example of repeating phrases comes from Hott Fuzz with "The Greater Good"

  • @stevenherrera8416
    @stevenherrera8416 Рік тому +7

    I think the example of The Crow dialogue being preachy is a little off base. The context is that the women is so disconnected from reality and basic responsibility that the writer is aware that it is on the nose. It has to be to get through to the drug addict and the audience is brought into the scene because the crow has to explain it like a child to her.

  • @stevestolarczyk8972
    @stevestolarczyk8972 Рік тому +1

    Really impressive selection of example scenes.

  • @Sarcasmses
    @Sarcasmses 4 місяці тому +2

    Interestingly I think the Titanic example of name calling actually works. They are in a situation where they are moments from drowning, and it makes sense that he would say her name over and over again, desperately trying to focus her attention on the very specific things she needs to do for them to not die. He is helpless and cuffed and is completely reliant on her for survival, and calling out someone's name to focus their attention on what you are saying is natural.

  • @Villani_AV
    @Villani_AV 11 місяців тому +7

    Ygritte will always be one of my favorite characters. Especially the book version

  • @CptApplestrudl
    @CptApplestrudl Рік тому +4

    A good example of name calling I can think of is from "Indiana Jones and the Last crusade".
    At the end when Connery holds Ford by one hand above the abyss and calls out to him as "Jr" without Ford reacting, since he's focused on getting the grail.
    Again but more desperate "Jr!"...nothing.
    Somber tone "Indiana"...and Ford finally turns around, because his Dad never called him by his chosen name before.

    • @WriterBrandonMcNulty
      @WriterBrandonMcNulty  Рік тому

      Good call... Amazing moment.

    • @brandonbuchner1771
      @brandonbuchner1771 Рік тому

      let it go...
      such a powerful scene. I just wish they didn't mirror it almost exactly with the Nazi girl.

  • @screechingtoad2683
    @screechingtoad2683 Рік тому

    Hi Brandon. This was really helpful Brandon, thank you Brandon

  • @6thwilbury2331
    @6thwilbury2331 Місяць тому +1

    Nice. As soon as you cited Name Calling, I immediately thought of Titanic. It happens throughout the movie, so much so that I can't help but wonder if it was some artistic choice. Not necessarily a good one, mind you, but deliberate.

  • @HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote

    I’m excellent about letting names drop naturally (I think), but I suck badly at all of the others. Especially filler dialog. Thank you for this.

  • @Knuckles2761
    @Knuckles2761 Рік тому +9

    The Room's flower shop scene is made to show how time is not linear in their universe. He finished conversation with greeting, their timeline is backwards and in reality chronologically Tommy is a resurrected man, pursuing his love and making Liza a better person during that. The flower shop scene is the key to the whole movie.

  • @ericbaysinger314
    @ericbaysinger314 Рік тому +1

    You're good at making videos about writing. Keep doing that!

  • @IustinPop
    @IustinPop Рік тому +1

    For some reason, UA-cam recommended this. I know nothing about this topic, but oh my, I fear I won't be able to enjoy bad movies anymore. Excellent introduction to writing!