We need a "Great Reset" in the world of auto production. This is INSANE Let's get back to the basics of engineering and throw all this expensive unreliable over-complicated technology in the GARBAGE where it belongs.🥵
I like tech and replace cars every 3-5 years so it's up to date with all my gadgets. Old cars maybe we're more reliable but everything is disposable now. I don't even do rust protection anymore .
Look, I'm a toyota fan also, but bro, you cannot deny Toyota tried to cheap their way out of fixing that engine. The short block "fix" got me pissed off when they did that the first time. Glad to see they finally realized long blocks are the way to go, but come on Toyota. Should've did that long ago.
The big issue is the overall cost of the engine. I paid $48k for a 2024 last year…the engine repair is approx $35-$40k. That does not bode well for future value when the vehicle is out of warranty. Maybe this flood of new long blocks will keep the cost down for future repairs, but I doubt that…and having just had the “front active spoiler” motor repaired today under warranty at 20K miles (an $800 part and 5 hours labor), I’m thinking this is my last Toyota truck (I’ve had 4 and this is truly a hard pill to swallow).
Good luck finding any other manufacturer that won’t have similar issues though - in one form or another. Sadly, this is the state of the entire automotive industry. Sorry your experience has been so frustrating. That sucks!
Easy fix, save your money go back to old school Toyotas. Stop buying new ones that are trash. And put money in to an older Toyotas that well last for ever. Older tundras, Tacoma, 4runners, Lexus 470, landcruiser etc you get my point. That was peak of reliability for Toyota Lexus. Not with these shit 4 banger turbo engines 🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️💩💩💩💩💩💩
If you have to raise the body off the frame by a service technician to replace my engine, my guess that truck will never be the same. The factory assembly line is more advanced than a local service technician raising the body off the frame, if that was my truck they will buy it back or start a class action lawsuit
Exactly!! Made in America JUNK....just like the domestics!!! You can't even buy a truck that's worthy of your money anymore! It's all about who can pack the lastest bells and whistles and charge an arm and leg for it! Built a goddamn truck for what it is intended for and I'll be the first to buy one. Now, it's all about luxury and showoff!!
good we dont wanna do it either. poor quality poor designed engines and shit pay to repair. once this truck is out of warranty no one will be able to afford to pay for repairs.
Yeah but who really builds things to be easy to work on anymore? I can't think of any brand that would be easy to work on....maybe some of the newer 4 cylinder turbos....just because they are smaller and single turbo design/single timing chain design. Anything with a V and twins is going to be a bitch for sure....
@jeanclaude7018 I am willing to say that it’s not of its debris. If it was debris technically wouldn’t it slowly fail overtime and not just grenade. The grenading is a catastrophic failure in the internals of the engine. Unless there are nuts and bolts in the cylinder heads or camshafts 😂😂
@jeanclaude7018 If debris is in the block the oil filter will catch it after it’s already damaged the engine components. Honestly if the vehicles were priced much cheaper I think customers would’ve took the L and held out. But when you charge luxury money for lemons, that’s when it becomes unacceptable and people need to be fired.
Why would it not last any engine will die if metal is left inside of it. The engine has been fine so far the one's that did not get metal left in them. I am taking a wait and see approach to the engine design.
@@robertyoung8289 i dont have a tundra but a cab lift happens all the time to trucks for service with all manufacturers if you know anything about body over frame trucks
Yeah I would imagine if GM used non-AFM V8s they'd have total market dominance right now. I know Ford/Yota guys would buy the 5.3L and 6.2L all day if it were as reliable as pre-AFM issues.
@@TheCarGuyOnline We have been wanting a new Chevy Tahoe, but that engine is a killer for us, we got a new Toyota, Japan made Crown instead and we love it.
hot take these new engines aren't actually a fix the problem lies in too high horsepower per cylinder in a vehicle meant as an everyday day driver with average everyday driver maintenance intervals (as in too long) and average everyday driving stop n go, not always getting up to operating temp type driving supplied with 0w-20 engine oil in what is essentially a high performance engine. Mopar is going to have issues with their new turbo 6 as well
The question is what was the REAL problem, and what did they do to fix it? There are some new part numbers in this motor. Why? Why if the problem was debris did they change part numbers around the bearings?
The problem is internal. They thought they could double their profits by reducing the cost of labor by paying Mexicans 1/10th of what they would pay an American and they gouged their prices to boot. The workers are sabotaging the greedy company from the inside because they feel like they got shorted.
Bought a new RAV4 in March. While in the dealer's, I was impressed with a Tundra in the display area. Was nonplussed when the sales manager told me it had a 4 cyl engine. WHAT?? Don't think the stuff had hit the fan yet over this engine recall. One of the reasons I bought a RAV4 was precisely because, unlike the Honda CR-V it does not have a turbo. I'd have to think long and hard were I in the market for a pickup today. No turbos please! Save 'em for race cars.
Looking at all these hoses, and complexity, these modern auto engines are literally more complex than Space X's latest generation of Raptor rocket engine.
This is much better than their original "Fix" for the engine failures, in theory this won't be any different than the original engine other than the fact that they are removing the possibility of reusing bad parts/bad oil in turbos/lines etc. IF Debris was in fact the cause of the original failures, then this should in theory solve the issue...provided the debris is no longer the cause :). Lots of IFs....
Main bearings were re-engineered. #1 and #4 were failing. In Jan of 2024, the original part # was replaced with a new one. That means the part was re-engineered. So the Tundra's made after that time should have engines with the new bearings. Still... this should never have happened.
This was my thought process of what they should have done from the beginning. If the debris hypothesis is right or the bearings are getting wiped out either way all that metal material is going through the oil which includes going through the turbos and the head. Could easily be stuck in there after a short block and damaged something else.
@@javieracevedo9352 i see what they get every time i work on them. i check the average and my 5.3 chevy does better. 40 year Master Toyota tech and I drive a chevy truck. Car Camry
3:14 exactly. I hate the toyota fanboys who were praising Toyota when they announced total engine replacement. Are they that ignorant of Toyota’s initial response, or do they forget so quickly? Toyota isn’t infallible, but it has its cult of followers regardless.
Honda and Toyota fanboys are insufferable. Look at the Honda recalls and the shills defending them saying "Every manufacturer has recalls". As if Honda doesn't price themselves on quality and reliability.
When GM 6.2 L blew up after lifter failure 2000 miles out of warranty they offered to cover 40% of a new motor after I waited 3 minutes months for engine to be available. The same engine had previously been in for warranty replacement of other lifters before. Even newer 6.2 L engines still have lifter issues…. 2022 had swine lifters replaced at 20k miles. GM would not do the right thing proactively and replace all affected motors.
Bought a new 2007 Tundra. AIP problems, limp mode, down time, etc etc. Very expensive repair if not under warranty to say nothing of the hassle. The replacements Toyo put in were no better than the originals. That's what this engine problem/solution reminds me of.
@@TheCarGuyOnline It was the 4.7l V8. Due to the air injection pump problem i suffered thru several "limp" modes and think it was in the shop 5 or 6x for the issue. i'd had 3 small toyos 4x since '85 and was pleased. Not so c/ the 4.7l.
I hear that a lot. They seem to win people over with the creature comforts and ride quality anymore. So many folks that own them say they love the ride. I hope yours doesn't fail, but if it does I hope you get one of these crate engines. Seems like a much much better solution than the previous short block rebuilds.
Likely replacing a lemon engine with another lemon since they are still using a TURD'BO and massively devaluing the vehicle by doing the swap. No thanks. I'd rather buy one of the last aspirated engines available thank you.
I just bought a GMC Sierra 2500HD Duramax for the same price as a Tundra Crapstone. Now I’ll never have to worry about the engine blowing up prematurely
For all the non Toyota people that say this is the repair all manufacturers do, ON some points you are correct but in large you are wrong. GM, Ford and Ram will not replace 100,000 engines based a 1% failure rate. They will replace the engine if it fails and if it doesn't before the warranty is up, you are screwed. Even Ford with the valves dropping are only replacing complete engines if it fails and an inspection is done on the rest. Toyota is stepping up like others will not....period.
Hybrid Tundras don't get a long block because they're not covered under the recall. When those engine fail they get a short block build which is 40k alone in parts. So annoying.
I don't think Toyota was trying to "cheap out" as you say. Maybe they were waiting to see what extent the problem was. I've dealt with Ford and GM and they fight tooth and nail on even the simplest issues!
@BorderTurrets I have. I own a 23 Tundra and 24 Land Cruiser. My last truck was a 17 F150. Horrible noise level. Had a 2016 Tundra before that. It had a better interior, I think, but Horrible fuel mileage.
Will all 2022 Tundra engines fail? Will all 2022 engines be replaced by Toyota before they fail? Must I wait until my engine fails to get a replacement? What if my engine does not fail until after my warranty expires - will Toyota replace it then? Thank you.
Not all will fail, Toyota will only proactively replace those that fall under the recall notice, if you didn't get a notice then you won't get a new crate engine (yet). You might get a new crate engine if yours fails under warranty and you aren't on the recall...time will tell how they handle each different situation. If the warranty expires and you aren't on the recall list, I'm guessing you will be expected to cover the ~$30,000 engine replacement bill unless you hire a lawyer.
@@TheCarGuyOnline Thank you. I did get a recall notice. My tundra has 22,000 miles and runs perfectly. I have averaged 21.1 mpg since purchase. I love my truck and had planned to keep it for many years. So I hope that if the engine is going to fail it will do so before the 5 year warranty expires. Since I did get a recall notice I hope Toyota is responsible for a new engine during the term of the 5 year warranty. Thanks.
@@dominica2765 Honda is even worse. I have a 2024 CRV Hybrid that had the injectors give out at 200 miles, yes 200 miles. Now the steering is recalled and my fuel pump is cracked with the recall. No loaner, no eta on parts, no power train extension, nothing. Honda corporate didn’t give a damn about towing expenses.
@@BorderTurretsThat's crazy. I'd try to Lemon Law that or get a buy back. Love my Hondas - 2011 Element and 2011 Odyssey, but no desire to buy anything newer.
@@brassmule Already on it. I dumped my car at the service department and told them I’m filing lemon law in 30 days as it’s unsafe to drive. Already have my attorneys working it and put Honda Corporate on notice.
I appreciate that Toyota stepped up and is replacing the engines but damn frame off is very involved lots can go wrong no thanks!! Have ZERO interest in any of that!!!
@@TheCarGuyOnline my 2023 tundra built date 02/14/2023 engine siezed at 33k mile right now the dealership told me they getting a short block since my car was not part on the recall. Toyota reach out to me and they offered to extend my warranty until 100k miles. But idk if my car would qualify if they decided to extend the recall since I’m getting a short block
Imagine you pay 60-70k for a premium truck and now you have to deal with this at 20k miles. Toyota ruined their vehicles and reputation moving to v6 twin turbo not to mention all the cosmetic fails and plastic bumpers,….
@@naddaf20 has any manufacturer gotten a turbo right? I don’t think a single one does it without issues such as oil loss or oil consumption lol Yet these manufacturers keep trying to go down this turbo path.
Not all of them are going to have this issue, just enjoy it. I have an old 5.7L that has been good to me, but I have seen others with half the miles I have in the 5.7L with head gasket issues/timing chain tensioner issues etc. Nothing is a guarantee anymore in life :)
Toyota has simply blown it with the new Tundra. It’s ugly, it has a grenade for a power plant, and they took WAY too long to do the right thing for the poor folks who suffered through Toyota’s mistakes.
I have lost all respect and confidence in Toyota. So sad to say that but they have lost there way are seem to telling its client what they will get rather then listen to them for what they want. Very sad how it took 40 years to build a reputation and just a fee years to destroy it all. RIP Toyota
@jeanclaude7018 If they even know about this channel, you'd have to ask them. But yeah probably won't find them in this comment section lol. Which youtubers post propaganda? The only two that I really enjoy listening to regarding Tundra news are current longtime Toyota mechanics that go in depth about everything, positive & negative, instead of just appeasing to their Tundra hating/loving audiences for views by either just hating Tundras or just drooling over Tundras. The Car Care Nut is my go-to. Who do you think are the honest channels besides TheCarGuy and who do you think are the propaganda channels?
Nothing yet. I'm still waiting on the source to be allowed/able to discuss. The source has a situation right now with Toyota that they can't jeopardize and they have to wait a bit longer before they can go public and talk.
According to the original recall, it only affected 2022-2023 (non-hybrid), but most people know it's the same engine in the hybrids and hybrids have failed as well. Toyota doesn't recall the hybrids because it's not a "safety concern" when the engine fails in those, because the electric hybrid motor can move them off the road. There have been reports of 2024s also dying, however a lot fewer than 2022-2023 so far.
Well these images are all but 100% confirmation as I don't own a Tundra that needs repair. These images are from a shop that received the engine (crate), not short block like before, as a remedy for a recall customer.
Lol so much for "Toyota Reliability" I hear the fanboys constantly talk about. I have a friend who still believes the hype and wants to buy a new Lexus GX550 Overtrail. I told him to save his hard earned money and steer clear of the new garbage that Toyota is putting out. He thinks these new Toyota are going to last with their turbo 6 cylinder engines but I had to remind him that these aren't the old Toyota engines that will last like the on in his 2018 Tacoma. Idk if he is planning on selling his Tacoma or trading it in but I told him either way its a bad idea just to get that new Toyota/Lexus crap. I told him if he wants a GX to get a previous generation that has low miles. Lol you can't help the fanboys. He didn't even know that the new Supra is powered by a BMW B58 engine hahaha.
@@gtrance3567 but GM doesn’t market or differentiate themselves on quality, reliability, and longevity. You have to understand that while every manufacturer has recalls each brand adopts their own persona. When you buy a GM it’s because you’re looking to get something for thousands off. When you buy a Toyota it’s because you want to buy once and drive it till it crumbles.
@@BorderTurrets I think we should be careful about making excuses for the three big Auto makers. regardless quality and reliability is what every manufacturer should be striving for. It’s implicit in my opinion. Yes Toyota is going through a rough time right now, but they are replacing the engines. Let’s see how this pans out.
@@gtrance3567 Not making excuses, il never by a GM product. It’s inferior in every way. Why get a GMC Acadia when I can get a Subaru Ascent or Mazda CX90 that will give me minimal issues, cheaper to buy, and better quality? Sure the styling may be look more aggressive but its not worth it falling apart. The point I was trying to make is that Toyota and Honda charge a premium because they claim their products are of higher quality and reliable. Yet these “reliable” engines are giving so many issues as if you bought an Acadia, Traverse, or Explorer.
@@BorderTurretsI have a 14 Traverse in my driveway since July 2013. The only things replaced on it have been tires, wipers battery and headlight bulbs. Also the rear brake light housing, I was loading lumber in it and broke the clear cover allowing for water intrusion into the housing. I was forgetting about engine air cleaner and cabin air filter.
Toyota has some issues but still hands down the best vehicles on the road. This is a black eye for them but I will still buy another Toyota or Lexus. Mazda is a over looked quality vehicle if you want a car
Any time you have to lift the body off the frame to replace an engine of a basic everyday truck no thank you I’m glad I won’t buy any new Toyota truck once they go back to Basic simple reliability
I've read stories where the truck just doesn't feel the same after the cab off repairs, one can imagine that it will have maybe some new rattles and....things that don't look/feel just perfect. I think ideally, we wouldn't be seeing cab off repairs in any brand as the norm...but here we are.
Wow, I had a hunch, but I was on the fence until this video. Thank you for confirming that you are jilted. 👎What happened? Holding out for a Toyota Motor Corporation concession? Don't hold your breath. You're too small.
We need a "Great Reset" in the world of auto production. This is INSANE Let's get back to the basics of engineering and throw all this expensive unreliable over-complicated technology in the GARBAGE where it belongs.🥵
@@roguedolphin right to repair was supposed to prevent this but our government is captured by the dealer lobby and auto lobby.
Great reset is an idea for simple minded people
I like tech and replace cars every 3-5 years so it's up to date with all my gadgets. Old cars maybe we're more reliable but everything is disposable now. I don't even do rust protection anymore .
Look, I'm a toyota fan also, but bro, you cannot deny Toyota tried to cheap their way out of fixing that engine. The short block "fix" got me pissed off when they did that the first time. Glad to see they finally realized long blocks are the way to go, but come on Toyota. Should've did that long ago.
Replaced by a technician at a dealership with a time limit to put it all together.
correct we only get paid what Toyota pays! the rest is FREE
@jeanclaude7018 agreed
The big issue is the overall cost of the engine. I paid $48k for a 2024 last year…the engine repair is approx $35-$40k. That does not bode well for future value when the vehicle is out of warranty. Maybe this flood of new long blocks will keep the cost down for future repairs, but I doubt that…and having just had the “front active spoiler” motor repaired today under warranty at 20K miles (an $800 part and 5 hours labor), I’m thinking this is my last Toyota truck (I’ve had 4 and this is truly a hard pill to swallow).
Man that’s rough….sorry
This is scary
Good luck finding any other manufacturer that won’t have similar issues though - in one form or another. Sadly, this is the state of the entire automotive industry. Sorry your experience has been so frustrating. That sucks!
Easy fix, save your money go back to old school Toyotas. Stop buying new ones that are trash. And put money in to an older Toyotas that well last for ever. Older tundras, Tacoma, 4runners, Lexus 470, landcruiser etc you get my point. That was peak of reliability for Toyota Lexus. Not with these shit 4 banger turbo engines 🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️💩💩💩💩💩💩
@@Omar_213_LA that is the direction I think I’m going.
If you have to raise the body off the frame by a service technician to replace my engine, my guess that truck will never be the same. The factory assembly line is more advanced than a local service technician raising the body off the frame, if that was my truck they will buy it back or start a class action lawsuit
Specially in a new car 😂
You mean you don't trust the 20 year old kids who just became ASE certified? 😂
@@WhiskeybendeEven 50 year old master techs ain’t putting this back right lol.
There’s so many vehicles and so little time.
Exactly!! Made in America JUNK....just like the domestics!!! You can't even buy a truck that's worthy of your money anymore! It's all about who can pack the lastest bells and whistles and charge an arm and leg for it!
Built a goddamn truck for what it is intended for and I'll be the first to buy one. Now, it's all about luxury and showoff!!
good we dont wanna do it either. poor quality poor designed engines and shit pay to repair. once this truck is out of warranty no one will be able to afford to pay for repairs.
You gotta love the turbo position in the back of the block… Good luck replacing them…
Yeah but who really builds things to be easy to work on anymore? I can't think of any brand that would be easy to work on....maybe some of the newer 4 cylinder turbos....just because they are smaller and single turbo design/single timing chain design. Anything with a V and twins is going to be a bitch for sure....
Ford has been doing it for years. take's most tech's 45 mins to pull the cab. Much easier and saves a ton of labor hours.
It will be interesting to see if the new engines are any better.
Can’t fix a poor design with minor revisions.
@@Clockwork0nions what's the poor design? Issue is with manufacturing no?
@@Justmejbful
So they say.
@@Clockwork0nions who says it's bad design though? What specifically about the design is bad?
One bolt not tighten up one wire not put back properly. And once your outta warranty. Oh Well! To bad. So sad! 🤷♂️
What a tragedy for the owners...Stuck with a Frankenstein truck and a kick in the teeth at trade in...
If anyone will take it.
what an unbelievable complicated cluster of an engine
you are correct i have had them apart . looks like a 12 year old with a high math IQ designed it
Remember when engines were simpler?! God, please bring back the good old days.😢
What’s sad is that the engine will probably still not last.
FindSomeJoy
@jeanclaude7018 I am willing to say that it’s not of its debris. If it was debris technically wouldn’t it slowly fail overtime and not just grenade. The grenading is a catastrophic failure in the internals of the engine. Unless there are nuts and bolts in the cylinder heads or camshafts 😂😂
@jeanclaude7018 If debris is in the block the oil filter will catch it after it’s already damaged the engine components.
Honestly if the vehicles were priced much cheaper I think customers would’ve took the L and held out. But when you charge luxury money for lemons, that’s when it becomes unacceptable and people need to be fired.
Why would it not last any engine will die if metal is left inside of it. The engine has been fine so far the one's that did not get metal left in them. I am taking a wait and see approach to the engine design.
Dumb comment.
So at the end of the day you’re getting a new rebuilt Toyota. Nice
Cant imagine the rattles that will be left behind. No thank you.
The rattles are all in your head, lifting cab up is a normal thing
@@drivewayhero Oh ok. I guess when you buy a POS its normal. It appears the rattles must be in yours. 😀
@@robertyoung8289 i dont have a tundra but a cab lift happens all the time to trucks for service with all manufacturers if you know anything about body over frame trucks
@@drivewayhero Are new engines normal too?
@@BorderTurrets I dont know, we have to wait and see don't we
I agree but GM replaced it with the same AFM engine. Why replace it with the same POS?
Yeah I would imagine if GM used non-AFM V8s they'd have total market dominance right now. I know Ford/Yota guys would buy the 5.3L and 6.2L all day if it were as reliable as pre-AFM issues.
@@TheCarGuyOnline- I’m one of those guys that would buy a GM if they did!
@@TheCarGuyOnline We have been wanting a new Chevy Tahoe, but that engine is a killer for us, we got a new Toyota, Japan made Crown instead and we love it.
@ I’ve heard the crowns are very nice…haven’t been in one but they look good from the outside :)
hot take
these new engines aren't actually a fix
the problem lies in too high horsepower per cylinder in a vehicle meant as an everyday day driver with average everyday driver maintenance intervals (as in too long) and average everyday driving stop n go, not always getting up to operating temp type driving supplied with 0w-20 engine oil in what is essentially a high performance engine. Mopar is going to have issues with their new turbo 6 as well
The question is what was the REAL problem, and what did they do to fix it? There are some new part numbers in this motor. Why? Why if the problem was debris did they change part numbers around the bearings?
The problem is internal. They thought they could double their profits by reducing the cost of labor by paying Mexicans 1/10th of what they would pay an American and they gouged their prices to boot. The workers are sabotaging the greedy company from the inside because they feel like they got shorted.
a failing engine for a failing engine. avoid this this crap.
Yep on a brand new truck. What a flop
How do u kno the new engine is failing?
And their paint still sucks....7k repair bill...
Bought a new RAV4 in March. While in the dealer's, I was impressed with a Tundra in the display area. Was nonplussed when the sales manager told me it had a 4 cyl engine. WHAT??
Don't think the stuff had hit the fan yet over this engine recall.
One of the reasons I bought a RAV4 was precisely because, unlike the Honda CR-V it does not have a turbo.
I'd have to think long and hard were I in the market for a pickup today. No turbos please! Save 'em for race cars.
You mean Tacoma
Looking at all these hoses, and complexity, these modern auto engines are literally more complex than Space X's latest generation of Raptor rocket engine.
Yeah it's bad...and maintenance is much higher cost too. Spark plugs need changed every 40k ($900 from dealer).
@@TheCarGuyOnline 900 every 40k? Wow, didn't know that.
How is this engine different from the original engine. Any updates on the 24 Tundras? Will they be recalled?
This is much better than their original "Fix" for the engine failures, in theory this won't be any different than the original engine other than the fact that they are removing the possibility of reusing bad parts/bad oil in turbos/lines etc. IF Debris was in fact the cause of the original failures, then this should in theory solve the issue...provided the debris is no longer the cause :). Lots of IFs....
I would still be upset with this mess.@@TheCarGuyOnline
Main bearings were re-engineered. #1 and #4 were failing. In Jan of 2024, the original part # was replaced with a new one. That means the part was re-engineered. So the Tundra's made after that time should have engines with the new bearings. Still... this should never have happened.
It comes in a crate!
Interesting tire recall for the Sequoia, didn’t Doug Demuro have a complete tire failure on his during his cross country road trip?
I watch some of Doug but I didn't catch that issue...guessing it could have been related for sure. Glad he's OK after it...
This was my thought process of what they should have done from the beginning. If the debris hypothesis is right or the bearings are getting wiped out either way all that metal material is going through the oil which includes going through the turbos and the head. Could easily be stuck in there after a short block and damaged something else.
The EPA forced automakers to follow unrealistic gas mileage standarts.
if this was true why does the 24 get terrible fuel mileage? They wanted to be Ford thats all
@@javieracevedo9352 So they’d rather build a shit engine than sue the EPA.
@JayMak1963 They get good gas mileage on lab tests, once they hit 20k or 30k then the wear makes the mpg go down.
@@javieracevedo9352 i see what they get every time i work on them. i check the average and my 5.3 chevy does better. 40 year Master Toyota tech and I drive a chevy truck. Car Camry
3:14 exactly. I hate the toyota fanboys who were praising Toyota when they announced total engine replacement. Are they that ignorant of Toyota’s initial response, or do they forget so quickly? Toyota isn’t infallible, but it has its cult of followers regardless.
Honda and Toyota fanboys are insufferable. Look at the Honda recalls and the shills defending them saying "Every manufacturer has recalls". As if Honda doesn't price themselves on quality and reliability.
Lmao, you know they usually say "don't worry, Toyota is going to make it right" hahaha.
When GM 6.2 L blew up after lifter failure 2000 miles out of warranty they offered to cover 40% of a new motor after I waited 3 minutes months for engine to be available. The same engine had previously been in for warranty replacement of other lifters before.
Even newer 6.2 L engines still have lifter issues…. 2022 had swine lifters replaced at 20k miles.
GM would not do the right thing proactively and replace all affected motors.
man that's rough, sorry you had to go through that.
Ditto, how long will it take for the crate engine to blow? Isn’t that just dandy?
Bought a new 2007 Tundra. AIP problems, limp mode, down time, etc etc. Very expensive repair if not under warranty to say nothing of the hassle. The replacements Toyo put in were no better than the originals. That's what this engine problem/solution reminds me of.
Which engine did you have?
@@TheCarGuyOnline It was the 4.7l V8. Due to the air injection pump problem i suffered thru several "limp" modes and think it was in the shop 5 or 6x for the issue. i'd had 3 small toyos 4x since '85 and was pleased. Not so c/ the 4.7l.
I have a 23 SR5 build date 5-23 16k and no problems yet.If motor fails as much as I love the ride of this truck it will be gone.
I hear that a lot. They seem to win people over with the creature comforts and ride quality anymore. So many folks that own them say they love the ride. I hope yours doesn't fail, but if it does I hope you get one of these crate engines. Seems like a much much better solution than the previous short block rebuilds.
Loving my 2024 tundra.
I hope it is in the clear for your 24. Time will tell I suppose. Do you know your build date?
@@TheCarGuyOnline built in April, bought on cinco de Mayo.
Likely replacing a lemon engine with another lemon since they are still using a TURD'BO and massively devaluing the vehicle by doing the swap.
No thanks. I'd rather buy one of the last aspirated engines available thank you.
Tundra is a very nice Truck and it is priced lower than GM and Ford. With this remedy the price will go up soon.
This is the right move by Toyota to keep customers.
I’m gonna have an engine for life. I just got a 24 sr5. It was that or a mini van. Let’s go!
I just bought a GMC Sierra 2500HD Duramax for the same price as a Tundra Crapstone.
Now I’ll never have to worry about the engine blowing up prematurely
What about the guys that got a short block, where the mechanic put the whole thing together with a 3/8th impact. So other parts can fail later.
I believe they get a new one also and if they paid for it they get reimbursement
I have a friend that just recently purchased a new 2023. Are they replacing all of them or only if they fail?
For all the non Toyota people that say this is the repair all manufacturers do, ON some points you are correct but in large you are wrong. GM, Ford and Ram will not replace 100,000 engines based a 1% failure rate. They will replace the engine if it fails and if it doesn't before the warranty is up, you are screwed. Even Ford with the valves dropping are only replacing complete engines if it fails and an inspection is done on the rest. Toyota is stepping up like others will not....period.
Question,
Does toyota charge customers more for "quality"? If so, they should be writing checks to customers for bad quality
@BorderTurrets based on that logic, Chrysler, Ford, and GM should be giving their cars for free.
@@jackjones3433 For free? No. 30-35% off yes
I love what you do for me, Toyota
wasnt the techs fault. the short blocks sent to us was junk
Hybrid Tundras don't get a long block because they're not covered under the recall. When those engine fail they get a short block build which is 40k alone in parts. So annoying.
Anything with the hybrids and the vibration they have?
I don't think Toyota was trying to "cheap out" as you say. Maybe they were waiting to see what extent the problem was. I've dealt with Ford and GM and they fight tooth and nail on even the simplest issues!
@@richardMenken-qi5qq Have you seen the interior QC issues?
@BorderTurrets I have. I own a 23 Tundra and 24 Land Cruiser. My last truck was a 17 F150. Horrible noise level. Had a 2016 Tundra before that. It had a better interior, I think, but Horrible fuel mileage.
Doing all that work flat rate warranty half of book time the truck will never be the same.
Be great if the replacement crate engine was a 3UR-FE.
But then people couldn't race them around against the Ecoboosts :)
Will all 2022 Tundra engines fail? Will all 2022 engines be replaced by Toyota before they fail? Must I wait until my engine fails to get a replacement? What if my engine does not fail until after my warranty expires - will Toyota replace it then? Thank you.
Not all will fail, Toyota will only proactively replace those that fall under the recall notice, if you didn't get a notice then you won't get a new crate engine (yet). You might get a new crate engine if yours fails under warranty and you aren't on the recall...time will tell how they handle each different situation. If the warranty expires and you aren't on the recall list, I'm guessing you will be expected to cover the ~$30,000 engine replacement bill unless you hire a lawyer.
@@TheCarGuyOnline Thank you. I did get a recall notice. My tundra has 22,000 miles and runs perfectly. I have averaged 21.1 mpg since purchase. I love my truck and had planned to keep it for many years. So I hope that if the engine is going to fail it will do so before the 5 year warranty expires. Since I did get a recall notice I hope Toyota is responsible for a new engine during the term of the 5 year warranty. Thanks.
Excellent video and thanks for keeping us updated
The only reason Toyota did long blocks is because of people like you so God bless you, Toyota Treats their customers like shit
@@dominica2765 Honda is even worse. I have a 2024 CRV Hybrid that had the injectors give out at 200 miles, yes 200 miles.
Now the steering is recalled and my fuel pump is cracked with the recall. No loaner, no eta on parts, no power train extension, nothing.
Honda corporate didn’t give a damn about towing expenses.
@@BorderTurretsThat's crazy. I'd try to Lemon Law that or get a buy back. Love my Hondas - 2011 Element and 2011 Odyssey, but no desire to buy anything newer.
@@brassmule Already on it. I dumped my car at the service department and told them I’m filing lemon law in 30 days as it’s unsafe to drive.
Already have my attorneys working it and put Honda Corporate on notice.
Yah, that will show up on the Carfax report.
I appreciate that Toyota stepped up and is replacing the engines but damn frame off is very involved lots can go wrong no thanks!! Have ZERO interest in any of that!!!
Yeah it sucks for the owners that need a new engine. I hope the new crate engines last 200k but...time will tell.
Is there any news if later 2023 models will be part of the recall?
I’ve got a source that says so but my guess is they will wait until all are sold from dealer lots first.
@@TheCarGuyOnline my 2023 tundra built date 02/14/2023 engine siezed at 33k mile right now the dealership told me they getting a short block since my car was not part on the recall. Toyota reach out to me and they offered to extend my warranty until 100k miles. But idk if my car would qualify if they decided to extend the recall since I’m getting a short block
Imagine you pay 60-70k for a premium truck and now you have to deal with this at 20k miles. Toyota ruined their vehicles and reputation moving to v6 twin turbo not to mention all the cosmetic fails and plastic bumpers,….
@@naddaf20 has any manufacturer gotten a turbo right?
I don’t think a single one does it without issues such as oil loss or oil consumption lol
Yet these manufacturers keep trying to go down this turbo path.
They have always been ugly, but this new one is ass-ugly.
I do love my truck but man this whole crap bums me out.
Not all of them are going to have this issue, just enjoy it. I have an old 5.7L that has been good to me, but I have seen others with half the miles I have in the 5.7L with head gasket issues/timing chain tensioner issues etc. Nothing is a guarantee anymore in life :)
Toyota has simply blown it with the new Tundra. It’s ugly, it has a grenade for a power plant, and they took WAY too long to do the right thing for the poor folks who suffered through Toyota’s mistakes.
The 6.2 STILL has problems though. Not corrected.
Yup, they really need to just delete AFM. Toyota has the same issue here though, many customers on 2-3 engine rebuilds with those short blocks.
Reminds me of the 6.0 Fords.
I have lost all respect and confidence in Toyota. So sad to say that but they have lost there way are seem to telling its client what they will get rather then listen to them for what they want. Very sad how it took 40 years to build a reputation and just a fee years to destroy it all. RIP Toyota
2:07 - 2:20 actually, I haven’t seen a single positive comment, at least in your comment section. Interesting.
@jeanclaude7018 If they even know about this channel, you'd have to ask them. But yeah probably won't find them in this comment section lol. Which youtubers post propaganda? The only two that I really enjoy listening to regarding Tundra news are current longtime Toyota mechanics that go in depth about everything, positive & negative, instead of just appeasing to their Tundra hating/loving audiences for views by either just hating Tundras or just drooling over Tundras. The Car Care Nut is my go-to. Who do you think are the honest channels besides TheCarGuy and who do you think are the propaganda channels?
tacomas dying trans getting software fixes!! reliability has been dead for years all the fanboys are just grasping the past!!!!!!
Keep paying those crazy prices for cheap quality
Are the engines coming from Japan???
Doubtful, most likely Alabama :)
@@TheCarGuyOnlinehopefully Vicky Valentine can soup them up
The Tundra truck is a freaking American truck! They are garbage!
any news on the 2024 tundra recall?
Nothing yet. I'm still waiting on the source to be allowed/able to discuss. The source has a situation right now with Toyota that they can't jeopardize and they have to wait a bit longer before they can go public and talk.
GM didn't replace mine. I will never buy a GM product again.
I'll fet a used toyota until they get past th2ir current issues.
Is the 2024 and 2025 Toyota engine in the Sequoia the one they are having problems with
According to the original recall, it only affected 2022-2023 (non-hybrid), but most people know it's the same engine in the hybrids and hybrids have failed as well. Toyota doesn't recall the hybrids because it's not a "safety concern" when the engine fails in those, because the electric hybrid motor can move them off the road. There have been reports of 2024s also dying, however a lot fewer than 2022-2023 so far.
100k engines, lol
Your title says “confirmed” yet you say you “think” they are.
Well these images are all but 100% confirmation as I don't own a Tundra that needs repair. These images are from a shop that received the engine (crate), not short block like before, as a remedy for a recall customer.
@@TheCarGuyOnline it IS or it ISN’T- words matter is all I’m saying.
Why the hell did Toyota not keep the v8 option.
They should have remade the 2JZ for trucks
The bell housing he sais
Cant wait to see these engines fail too lol
Lol so much for "Toyota Reliability" I hear the fanboys constantly talk about.
I have a friend who still believes the hype and wants to buy a new Lexus GX550 Overtrail. I told him to save his hard earned money and steer clear of the new garbage that Toyota is putting out. He thinks these new Toyota are going to last with their turbo 6 cylinder engines but I had to remind him that these aren't the old Toyota engines that will last like the on in his 2018 Tacoma. Idk if he is planning on selling his Tacoma or trading it in but I told him either way its a bad idea just to get that new Toyota/Lexus crap. I told him if he wants a GX to get a previous generation that has low miles. Lol you can't help the fanboys. He didn't even know that the new Supra is powered by a BMW B58 engine hahaha.
🍿 the shitshow continues….
0:55 that's a sad little engine...
That motor looks like a hot mess. Junk
It is extremely complex...just like most brands nowadays.
WOMP WOMP; TLDW: Toyota back to being king by 2025. Tundra sales up 200% Elon launches 2026 1795 into space on rocket. Toyota factory on mars.
LOL....pretty funny comment not gonna lie...
Glad I didn't buy one of these heaps. My 2018 5.7 runs just fine.
Good news for me! I own a 2018, and not this piece of trash..
When I read the title, before watching, I thought, oh! The 5.7???
LOL...nah they won't bring that oldy back.
Why not Put a B58 in it ?!?! I hate this sht
GM however, has a high rate of lifter failure, and they rarely replace an engine if at all.
@@gtrance3567 but GM doesn’t market or differentiate themselves on quality, reliability, and longevity.
You have to understand that while every manufacturer has recalls each brand adopts their own persona. When you buy a GM it’s because you’re looking to get something for thousands off.
When you buy a Toyota it’s because you want to buy once and drive it till it crumbles.
@@BorderTurrets I think we should be careful about making excuses for the three big Auto makers. regardless quality and reliability is what every manufacturer should be striving for. It’s implicit in my opinion. Yes Toyota is going through a rough time right now, but they are replacing the engines. Let’s see how this pans out.
@@gtrance3567 Not making excuses, il never by a GM product. It’s inferior in every way.
Why get a GMC Acadia when I can get a Subaru Ascent or Mazda CX90 that will give me minimal issues, cheaper to buy, and better quality? Sure the styling may be look more aggressive but its not worth it falling apart.
The point I was trying to make is that Toyota and Honda charge a premium because they claim their products are of higher quality and reliable. Yet these “reliable” engines are giving so many issues as if you bought an Acadia, Traverse, or Explorer.
@@BorderTurretsI have a 14 Traverse in my driveway since July 2013. The only things replaced on it have been tires, wipers battery and headlight bulbs. Also the rear brake light housing, I was loading lumber in it and broke the clear cover allowing for water intrusion into the housing. I was forgetting about engine air cleaner and cabin air filter.
@@JT-lq4yd Cool, on average domestic cars are trash
All these new truck are large rolling piles of junk. Trucks destroy your retirement because of the cost of ownership
Toyota has some issues but still hands down the best vehicles on the road. This is a black eye for them but I will still buy another Toyota or Lexus. Mazda is a over looked quality vehicle if you want a car
This wasn’t caused by metal shavings. This was bad engineering.
@@saltymethods2637 the debris they are talking about is from the executive’s rear. That’s what made it in the engine
More junk from Toyota 😂😂😂😂
Good, we can finally move on. It was tiresome listening to these Toyota owners bitching and moaning. I hope they can finally be satisfied now.
Toyota junk!
Any time you have to lift the body off the frame to replace an engine of a basic everyday truck no thank you I’m glad I won’t buy any new Toyota truck once they go back to Basic simple reliability
I’d rather them do that then try to spend more hours installing it. Even GM says to lift the cab for the oil belt replacement on their 3.0L diesels.
I've read stories where the truck just doesn't feel the same after the cab off repairs, one can imagine that it will have maybe some new rattles and....things that don't look/feel just perfect. I think ideally, we wouldn't be seeing cab off repairs in any brand as the norm...but here we are.
All you clowns knocking the new Tundra have never driven it or owned one. Proud 23 Tundra owner here and I LOVE it! Never had a problem. Toyota FTW.
So you’re saying it won’t have any problems
I test drive it and the Sunroof liner was falling off
So, selling it at 59,000 miles then.
Anecdotal evidence for a brand new car lol. Wow
I couldn’t have said it better myself!
Wow, I had a hunch, but I was on the fence until this video. Thank you for confirming that you are jilted. 👎What happened? Holding out for a Toyota Motor Corporation concession? Don't hold your breath. You're too small.
? not sure what you are getting at here
Toyota should have kept the 5 liter V8 but add Cylinder de-activation, like General Motors.
I love Chevy, but I don't want anything with cylinder deactivation.
Toyota is the new FORD..Avoid😢
my 2001 tundra has 340k miles on it LMOA
Still a junk Truck for me! In 10,000 miles you might need another engine!
Yikes! Hope they’ve figured out the issue on the long blocks so this doesn’t happen again. 😬😬😬🫨
Now that's going to be a real problem if these new engines start failing.
@ - I see the value on my 5.7 L even with 200,000 miles going through the roof. L O L.