How - To Subwoofer Settings Standard Mode on Pioneer AVH NEX In Dash Receivers 2017

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  • @PureBlood42
    @PureBlood42 5 років тому +1

    Hi, this video is quite helpful. You stated that the head unit subwoofer level control should always be kept at 0 or below. So i wont be cheating myself out of a higher voltage source signal to the amp by keeping it at 0 or below? I'm confused as to why the level control for the sub has the option to increase the output up to like +7 if it's not advisable to turn it up whatsoever. I don't have the unit featured in your video, i have the Pioneer AVH-P3400BH. Wouldn't increasing the sub level a bit make it easier for my sub amp to put out more sound?

    • @deckerdotto6035
      @deckerdotto6035 5 років тому +1

      Thank you for your question. The goal is to create an audio system with little or no distortion. If the in-dash receiver's RCA outputs clip they create a distorted audio signal. That distorted audio signal is then in turn amplified by the subwoofer amp or other amplifiers in the system. That is the point of keeping the audio settings at zero or lower that is discussed in this video.
      In a well designed and set up audio system, you should be able to turn up the master volume to, or near it's maximum, and not hear any distortion from the speakers in the system. If you have all of these settings (for example: EQ, speaker levels, crossover levels, bass boost etc...) set to zero or lower you should be able to turn the volume up to it's max, and the RCA outputs of the in-dash receiver should not clip and create distortion that will in turn be amplified by your system. If you add in a boosted signal on the in-dash receiver from any of the audio controls (for example: EQ, speaker levels, crossover levels, bass boost etc...) this may cause the in-dash receiver's RCA outputs to clip and create distortion at high output levels.
      So...
      Here is an example. This is hypothetical, please don't take the numbers literally and try to translate them to any given in-dash receiver. In this best case scenario I have excellent amplifiers and well matched speakers. My receiver master volume control has a maximum volume level number of 50. I have all of the audio settings set to zero, and I can turn up the master volume to 50 and the RCA outputs do not clip and there is no distortion. That's what I want. Now, I add in a subwoofer level control adjustment of +5. When I turn up the master volume I can get to only volume level 45 before I begin to hear distortion coming from my speakers. If I add in an EQ adjustment on the 80Hz frequency band of +4, my master volume begins to distort now at volume level 41. Remember I started at volume level 50 with no distortion. Please note this is just a hypothetical example. In this example, the in-dash receiver is causing the distortion and sending that distorted signal to the amplifiers. The amps and speakers are doing the job they were designed to do.
      What's the solution?
      Use the audio controls to your best advantage. If you set them to zero or lower, your in-dash receiver shouldn't be creating noise. If you want to add in a +1 or +2, that's OK as long as you realize you may be getting distortion at the highest volume levels. You need to find the setting that works best for you. If you are trying to balance your system so all of the speakers are at or near the same volume level, consider lowering the volume level of some speakers rather than raising the volume level of one individual speaker. If you want more volume, you might want to consider a more powerful amplifier and speakers. You can find more videos about Pioneer AVH-P3400BH here: ua-cam.com/video/gyYxiEBqzmk/v-deo.html You can find a very detailed video about using crossovers and Pioneer's Network Mode here: ua-cam.com/video/WvJXYh6vk_0/v-deo.html and you can find more videos on Pioneer's You Tube Channel here: ua-cam.com/users/pioneerelectronics

    • @PureBlood42
      @PureBlood42 5 років тому

      @@deckerdotto6035 - Wow, I cannot thank you enough! I did a great install job on my ride, but I've always been quite adept at installs, and not so great at setting my levels for the optimum sound. My system sounds very good, but not great. I'll be heeding your generous advice, no doubt. Thank you!

    • @PureBlood42
      @PureBlood42 5 років тому

      ***Update***
      Your advice was accurate. I'm not only moving more air with my sub, but the entire soundstage is totally clean and more balanced. I discovered something else, along the way, that was causing a lot of distortion and was preventing me from going past 28 on the AVH-P3400BH head unit's volume control. My music source is usually Spotify via Bluetooth. I was always, cranking my Bluetooth media volume on my Galaxy S5 whenever I opened Spotify. That was not a good idea and that was the primary reason my head unit was distorting beyond 28 (out of 40 max volume). Now, I just open Spotify and don't touch the media output level on my phone and now I'm able to crank the head unit's volume to 40 (max) with no distortion at all. I'm not sure if anyone else made the assumption that Spotify should be cranked through Bluetooth, but in my case it made all the difference to leave the Spotify volume via Bluetooth alone! Another thing I learned today with Spotify, is when you go into Spotify settings, DO NOT select "normalize" as it will cheat you out of the full dynamic range within the various songs you play.
      Thanks again for your help. I feel like I have a new sound system now.

    • @urbanpeltier1622
      @urbanpeltier1622 4 роки тому

      @@PureBlood42 thanks a lot about mentioning normalize on Spotify man I just got my new system installed today still learning how to optimize things !!!

  • @michaeldextermonroe8548
    @michaeldextermonroe8548 4 роки тому

    I like a nice tight bass sound for my subwoofer. Which setting do you recommend? I do not really understand what each setting in the subwoofer setting does for the sound.

    • @deckerdotto6035
      @deckerdotto6035 4 роки тому

      It's difficult to answer your question without knowing what in-dash receiver you have? is the receiver set up in Standard Mode or Network Mode? What subwoofer you have? and what amplifier you are using to run the sub? As a place to start with the settings I recommend setting the LPF or Low Pass Filter to 80 Hz, with a slope of 12 dB per octave. If you would like to learn more about what subwoofer crossover and slope settings do, check out this Pioneer video explaining the settings on Pioneer receivers: ua-cam.com/video/WvJXYh6vk_0/v-deo.html You can find more How To videos about Pioneer AVH-NEX receivers in this playlist: ua-cam.com/video/ObpKXwrN8us/v-deo.html and you can find more videos on Pioneer's You Tube Channel here: ua-cam.com/users/pioneerelectronics

    • @michaeldextermonroe8548
      @michaeldextermonroe8548 4 роки тому

      @@deckerdotto6035 thank you so very much. Have a great day.

  • @Mansoor_67
    @Mansoor_67 Рік тому

    I have installed a 1500 watts
    Pioneer TS-WX1210AH 12'' Bass Reflex Box Type Active Subwoofer with Built-in Amplifier in my Nissan Xtrail T30. When keeping the speaker level at 0 or lower the bass is very less.
    My subwoofer crossover is set at LPF 80 and the slope -12dB/oct.
    All other settings like the bass boost and speaker level are set at zero.
    My head unit is DMH-z5350bt and all door speakers are pioneer 6.5" 350 Watt 4-Way Coaxial Car Speakers.
    Are there any suggestions to boost the subwoofer output?
    If increasing the subwoofer speaker level damage the subwoofer?

    • @pioneerelectronics
      @pioneerelectronics  Рік тому +1

      There are several possible settings that might make a big difference for you. This is a long answer. Please read the complete answer before you begin making adjustments.
      You have a Pioneer DMH-Z5350BT and a TS-WX1210AH. To be sure the subwoofer is working, be sure to listen to music that has low frequency information. For best results, I recommend to set up the receiver in Standard Mode, and to use the Subwoofer RCA outputs to send signal to the TS-WX1210AH subwoofer. This is a direct connection from the receiver to the subwoofer and requires RCA cables that are about 15 feet long. If you don't understand this, you can learn more about Standard Mode and Network Mode in this How To video from Pioneer: ua-cam.com/video/PeH_h8UHzBw/v-deo.html
      On the in-dash receiver, I recommend to set your HPF for both the Front and Rear outputs at about 80Hz at 12dB per octave. I also recommend to set the receiver's subwoofer LPF to 80Hz. You can see this demonstrated here: ua-cam.com/video/Z86fQryoRVk/v-deo.html There is an LPF on the subwoofer control panel. Since you are using the LPF on the in-dash receiver you won't need to use the one on the subwoofer. Set the subwoofer's LPF to Off.
      When using the subwoofer RCA input be certain to set the input level selector switch to RCA on the subwoofer.
      Adjusting the subwoofer's gain control is very important. Too little gain will result in low output and poor performance. Too much gain will result in distorted output at higher listening levels. When using the RCA input I recommend to set the subwoofer's gain control at ~ half way between Min and Max as a place to start evaluating performance. When you turn up the volume to higher listening levels, if you are hearing a distorted output from the subwoofer adjust the gain control to eliminate the distorted output. Small adjustments are best. Make a small adjustment and drive around for a while listening to music. If needed, make additional small adjustments to suit your listening needs. Your goal should be to hear little or no distorted output from the subwoofer even at high output levels.
      Next is the Bass Boost frequency on the subwoofer. I recommend a setting at about 50-60Hz. I recommend to leave the bass boost level located on the amplifier control panel at or near it's lowest setting. The bass boost knob that came with the TS-WX1210AH can be freely adjusted to add in addition bass boost or to remove bass boost at any time.
      Next is the phase control on the subwoofer. I recommend to experiment with this switch in the normal and reverse phase position. Try the normal position and drive around for a while. Then try the reverse phase position. One or the other may make a big difference in the sound you hear. You won't hurt any thing adjusting the phase control. The phase control can also be adjusted at the in-dash receiver. One or the other is best. There is no need to use both.
      You can learn more about using the control panel on the Pioneer TS-WX1210AH in this video from Pioneer: ua-cam.com/video/cI9SfaPFenA/v-deo.html
      You can find more videos on Pioneer's UA-cam Channel here: ua-cam.com/users/pioneerelectronics

    • @Mansoor_67
      @Mansoor_67 Рік тому

      @@pioneerelectronics Thank you so much for replying and being very generous and supportive.
      I am a music lover and when it comes to car audio I always choose pioneer, this is the reason why I replaced my car audio with Pioneer.
      I have read the entire settings and will shortly give it a try.
      Once again
      Thank you so much for replying 😊

  • @t-_xp0s3dx_-t46
    @t-_xp0s3dx_-t46 4 роки тому +1

    hi i have a LPF on my amplifier, do i need to turn on LPF on my head unit too? or its gonna sound bad for using 2 LPF ?

    • @deckerdotto6035
      @deckerdotto6035 4 роки тому +2

      LPF is the Low Pass Filter and in most cases all you need is one of them not two. I recommend to go to the amplifier and switch off the LPF if possible. If it's not possible to switch off the LPF on the amplifier, then switch it off on the Subwoofer output from the in-dash receiver. That means, the subwoofer output from the in-dash receiver will be full range. That's OK because you'll be using the LPF on the amplifier for your subwoofer. Will it sound bad if you use 2 LPF's ? Probably not. However, it's not necessary to have two. Test it out for yourself. Drive around for a day with only one on. And the drive around for a day with 2 on. Choose the one you like best. In my vehicle, I only use one LPF. You can learn more about what a LPF or Low Pass Filter does, and what a HPF or High Pass Filter does in this video: ua-cam.com/video/WvJXYh6vk_0/v-deo.html You can find more How To videos about Pioneer AVH-2300NEX in this Pioneer You Tube Playlist: ua-cam.com/video/ObpKXwrN8us/v-deo.html and you can find more videos on Pioneer's You Tube Channel here: ua-cam.com/users/pioneerelectronics

  • @PeteyG708
    @PeteyG708 7 років тому +1

    So I have been wondering what this is since I installed my Pioneer AVH-1330NEX... what is the slope, exactly? I adjust it on my own and really don’t hear a difference.

    • @deckerdotto6035
      @deckerdotto6035 7 років тому +2

      The crossover slope is measured in decibels per octave. So, in a low pass filter, if a slope is 24 dB per octave that means that sound coming from that output is 24dB quieter one octave higher than the crossover point. Check out this video for more information about using Crossover Points and Slopes : ua-cam.com/video/WvJXYh6vk_0/v-deo.html
      The AVH-1330NEX is not mentioned in this video, but the concept is exactly the same.

    • @PeteyG708
      @PeteyG708 7 років тому +1

      Deckerd Otto That was a great and Very Informative Video! Thank you! It makes much more sense.

  • @dwkw86
    @dwkw86 5 років тому

    I have the 2330 Nex and I don’t show the rear crossover settings when the subwoofer is set to on. Only subwoofer and front. If I turn the subwoofer off I can then see the rear crossover options. Any reason why?

    • @deckerdotto6035
      @deckerdotto6035 5 років тому +1

      It sounds like you have the in-dash receiver set up in Standard Mode and have the Rear Speaker Outputs set to subwoofer outputs. You can see it here: ua-cam.com/video/Z86fQryoRVk/v-deo.html This system is capable of running a small subwoofer on the rear speaker outputs. If you are not using the rear speaker outputs to run a subwoofer, I recommend to change the Rear Speaker Output setting to REAR. This means it will be full range output to the rear speakers when using standard mode. For more information on Standard Mode and Network Mode check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/PeH_h8UHzBw/v-deo.html You can find more videos about Pioneer AVH-2330NEX here: ua-cam.com/video/ObpKXwrN8us/v-deo.html Please be sure to have the latest firmware installed for your in-dash receiver. You can find it here: www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/NEX/AVH-2330NEX#downloads You can find more videos on Pioneer's You Tube Channel here: ua-cam.com/users/pioneerelectronics

    • @dwkw86
      @dwkw86 5 років тому

      Deckerd Otto thank you !!

  • @w.ryanemch1351
    @w.ryanemch1351 6 років тому

    I have the NEX 2330, what should I set my bass boost on my HU at? It goes from 0 - +6
    Thanks

    • @deckerdotto6035
      @deckerdotto6035 6 років тому

      Start with the bass boost set to zero. Be sure to adjust your crossover and slope to suit the needs of your particular subwoofer. You can find more about crossover settings in this video: ua-cam.com/video/WvJXYh6vk_0/v-deo.html Adjust your equalizer to a custom setting for the type of music you listen to most. Now use the Speaker Level settings to adjust the output of the subwoofer. You can find more about eh EQ settings here: ua-cam.com/video/hUAJPnvCMgc/v-deo.html After that adjust the bass boost up to +1 if you think it's necessary.

  • @Safeandsanepyro
    @Safeandsanepyro 5 років тому +1

    My door speckers have bass to them and it sounds bad, how do I take the bass off from the speckers

    • @deckerdotto6035
      @deckerdotto6035 5 років тому

      I recommend to check to see what output is being used for the door speakers. Do this by fading the system all the way to the front and listening to what speakers are playing. You can see how to operate the Fade and Balance in this video: ua-cam.com/video/Z86fQryoRVk/v-deo.html If you are using the Front Outputs for the Door speakers put a HPF or High Pass Filter on the Front outputs. You can see how to do that here: ua-cam.com/video/Z86fQryoRVk/v-deo.html Set the HPF or High Pass Filter to 80Hz and test. Set the HPF to 100 or higher until you're happy with the sound. If your door speaker use the rear output, put the HPF on the rear output at 80HZ and test. You can find more videos about Pioneer AVH-2300NEX here: ua-cam.com/video/kpKYks-17gM/v-deo.html and you can find more videos on Pioneer's You Tube Channel here: ua-cam.com/users/pioneerelectronics

  • @nateluong4683
    @nateluong4683 2 роки тому

    Would be nice to if you explained what all the different adjustment do, rather than watching you slowly go through every adjustment increment.

    • @pioneerelectronics
      @pioneerelectronics  2 роки тому

      If you'd like to learn more about crossover and slope settings in Standard Mode and Network Mode on Pioneer receivers please watch this How To video from Pioneer: ua-cam.com/video/WvJXYh6vk_0/v-deo.html
      Watch the video with the sound on.
      You can find more videos on Pioneer's UA-cam Channel here: ua-cam.com/users/pioneerelectronics

  • @mrcharanjitsingh03
    @mrcharanjitsingh03 6 років тому +1

    Subwoofer still not working on my jeep wrangler
    Just upgrade my system to pioneer my subwoofer is not working

    • @deckerdotto6035
      @deckerdotto6035 6 років тому

      What model number of Pioneer in dash receiver do you have? What model of subwoofer do you have? What does "subwoofer is not working" mean? The subwoofer does not switch on? Or the subwoofer switches on but there is no sound? Or the subwoofer switches on but not playing at the proper volume? You can find more videos about Pioneer AVH-2300NEX here: ua-cam.com/video/kpKYks-17gM/v-deo.html

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies 6 років тому

      I'm having this exact same issue. Subwoofer says it's on on the headunit but there is no bass at all (the subwoofer is literally not on in the car). It's the sub that comes with the jeep. It worked until I factory reset the head unit and now it won't come on. Using a maestro as the connector.

    • @deckerdotto6035
      @deckerdotto6035 6 років тому

      What idatalink Maestro adapter are you using? Maestro RR?

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies 6 років тому

      @@deckerdotto6035 it was a brand new maestro. Called crutchfield and we remapped the maestro and it fixed the issue!

    • @trunkbangking
      @trunkbangking 5 років тому

      You have to turn the sub level up..they have it set all the way dowm on new units

  • @kylefairley6694
    @kylefairley6694 3 роки тому +1

    I have the 4400 and none of these help🙃

    • @deckerdotto6035
      @deckerdotto6035 3 роки тому

      Please be more specific with your question. Do you have the Pioneer AVH-W4400NEX? What are you trying to do? You can find more videos on Pioneer's UA-cam Channel here: ua-cam.com/users/pioneerelectronics

    • @kylefairley6694
      @kylefairley6694 3 роки тому

      @@deckerdotto6035 yes I do, i am trying to install subwoofers but the stereo it self would not work with an rca cable, so I have spliced an rca running from my amp to a speaker but now when I try to turn my head unit up to 20(it goes to 40 )it just crackles

    • @deckerdotto6035
      @deckerdotto6035 3 роки тому +1

      RCA outputs are not designed to run speakers. RCA outputs are designed to send a low level signal to an external amplifier. The amplifier then operates the speakers. The Pioneer AVH-W4400NEX has 3 sets of RCA outputs for running external amplifiers. The RCA outputs for running external amplifiers are on the I/O pigtail. It has a black label with Subwoofer Output. You can see it here: ua-cam.com/video/Dg3LTbgd__k/v-deo.html You need to run RCA cables Red for Right and White for left from the in-dash receiver's Subwoofer Output, to the RCA input, Red and White, on the external amplifier. The external amplifier's speaker outputs are then connected to the subwoofer with speaker wire. The subwoofer output must be switched on in the receiver's Audio Menu. You can see it here: ua-cam.com/video/AvBMEbbvMhs/v-deo.html You can learn more about wiring your Pioneer receiver here: ua-cam.com/video/-bF3uzzaT30/v-deo.html You can find a full playlist of How To videos from Pioneer about NEX in-dash receivers here: ua-cam.com/video/Z86fQryoRVk/v-deo.html and you can find more videos on Pioneer's UA-cam Channel here: ua-cam.com/users/pioneerelectronics