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The true cost of the end of suffering is rarely shared
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Thank you so much for the comments everyone. You're all wonderful! Love you so much ♡♡♡
Love you too.
“The price of truth is everything. The price of truth is nothing.” -Jed McKenna
Never watched you prior … but you have instantly reminded me of my thoughts in my mid twenties … and I deeply relate to your desperate ponder for the cause of existence….
Have personally come to the conclusion from the Quran …
Said to myself … She just wasn’t delivered the message in the Quran as I have:
“I have not created Jin and Human but to worship “
And
“ We are to Allah and to Him we shall return “
But how do we worship Allah ?
We utilize our brains and move in ways to achieve the goal of constant gratitude and connecting every result to Allah.
We maintain and progress the blessings granted to us by Allah.
Believing we are here now to do and live on the straight path enable to deserve meeting up with Him later.
Yes Islam in Arabic actually means Peaceful Surrender … to The Divine Creator of All things … Allah
Suzanne, I wanted to share with the book of ecclesiasties, and also the gospels. It speaks to what you have discovered about suffering, and the feelings we feel and the existential thoughts, and the darkness. The end of suffering is at the cross of Jesus. He has died for our sins, and he was buried in the grave, and he was raised from the dead. This is the gospel of hope, salvation, grace, and restoration. It has been my only source of life- the words of Jesus.
The apostle Paul tells us that we have died. And that our life is now hidden in christ in God.
I want you to find this hope because it doesn't negate our suffering...but it brings the end of the story -that if we have suffered with him, we will be raised with him.
The things you have shared has been my experience too. My sin destroyed me. It brought death. The consciousness the light and the lamp has felt what it means to die before the body. And so the gospel becomes man's only hope...because you apart from the living word of Jesus, it becomes hell.
Suzanne, please go to ESV.org, and begin to hear the gospel that brings hope and life. I hope this message finds you well. You are a deep well.
"I believe I will see the goodness of the lord in the land of the living."
The Psalms brings the context to all throught and feeling a human can ever experience in our time in the body. Please also hear with open heart, open ears.
God will fill all in all.
I am the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end.
Jesus loves you dear Suzanne, your life is not over, you have just reached the place to recieve the implanted word that will now save your soul.
We have walked the same path, and so I give to you the grace of Jesus, that has come to me freely...
"I am the light of the world, he who walks with me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life!" -Jesus
i sympathise... when the last dreams go... you are spot on, neutrality... liberation of the body... shattering, right ?
lot's of love
Stephan
It goes from being something, being nothing, to being everything.
Absolutely!!!!!!!
You nailed it in a cosmic way!!!!
Yesss!
Love this
I feel like a nothing.
I am 75 years old and have been a practicing Buddhist for 55 years. This is a really good and seldom discussed topic, so thank you Suzanne for bringing it to us. Along the way, I experienced this same existential emptiness, nothingness during periods of deep meditation. It feels rather bleak and lasted for weeks to months. However, after decades of practice there came an awakening and complete transformation of being that has lasted for the past 15 years without change. The awakening brought a lack of self grasping, but also an all embracing goodness, a purity of being and a profound compassion for the suffering of others. It brought a happiness and sweetness of being that infects and inspires others. When you "enter the stream," it is warm and full of goodness, loving-kindness, compassion, generosity and gratitude. Kindness and compassion lead the way out of this place of nothingness, and is the gateway into the fullness of awakening. (the Brahma Viharas provide a practice method) So, continue the journey Dear One, and thank you for sharing.
Woah, i hv a long journey, but i will be there one day...
@@varunpratapsingh8405 there is no where to go.
🙂
Out of interest, did the complete transformation happen suddenly or over time? Have had the existential emptiness for years where the meaningless of everything and how everything is a temporary situation that will pass leaves a sometimes joyful or difficult feelings or empty feeling and struggle to bond with others because of this, but always come back to the emptiness that none of it means anything really.
Very good
Hi Suzanne, don't forget that on the spiritual path, nothing real is ever lost. There are stages to spiritual awakening, and what you are experiencing is one of the stages. Beyond this stage is the complete dissolution of separation, and the rise of Divine love. Along with that comes a life lived in service to others, who are no longer seen as others, but as your true Self.
This came to me in a right time. Two years ago I felt the void, as if I woke up and realize everything was just a dream. I was staring into nothingness and it stared back at me. It was haunting, scary freedom but that freedom is a space for creation. I chose to love. Love over nothingness. Creating value for others instead of nothingness. Now I feel like I stepped out of myself, much more than when I intentionally wanted to become no-self
"...And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."
You chose? but there's no you? If you chose that means ego chose. You stopped short out of the scariness you mentioned, instead of accepting the nothingness, you ran back to the comfort of "love" despite love being an illusion.
@@ItApproaches Who can run to comfort or shrink back in fear? That story isn’t popping up in any other mind but in “yours.”
@@highvibefreqzshow5967 There is nobody that can run to comfort or shrink back in fear. That's the trick. Erase the illusion of "me" my "existence" and the truth still remains. It's not "my mind" truth is just truth.
Beautiful..
“You think because l'm kind that it means I'm naive, and maybe I am. It's strategic and necessary. This is how I fight.”
- Waymond Wang
That is a quote that I think is tailored for when one needs to put on a mask to survive their environment. Otherwise acting nice as a strategy as a constant, is a fatal fatal flaw. To act sincere in compassion one does so out of the expression of their all encompassed state, mind body soul, and as such is to act in accordance with the divine law of everything
Interesting, but surely if it’s strategic it’s not being ‘kind’, rather it is a game of ‘tit-for-tat’. Real love and kindness are unconditional I think
I remember this scene 👍
can someone please explain this
It won my heart. Suddenly gave meaning to the whole movie. I lived by it since then.
You're in one of the later stages of Awakening that some mystics call "the void" or "hermit stage". This phase can last anywhere from several months to several years and everything in between. It's a lonely path during this stage but it goes away. Just keep doing what your doing and it'll pass.
What's after this phase?
Why does this happen at such an inconvenient age? I’m only in my 20s which are almost over and instead of enjoying sex and fun relationships I feel depressed heavy asexual and old. I hate feeling like my youth is wasted for some spiritual awakening that just leaves me feeling hollow and like life is pointless. I at least want a partner if I have to go through this horrible crap
When she was describing how it all goes and there's just this, nothing....I was very much attracted by that. Hearing it's not a permanent condition, that it'll pass, is pretty disappointing. I want it all to go, the good as well as the bad, and that be the end of it. I guess I need to practice more.
The Dark Night of the Soul?
Interesting. Could you share more about it. I think I am experiencing this and everything has been stripped away. I have lived like a hermit since 3 years by destiny's will. Where can I learn more about these stages??
It’s not the end. It’s the beginning. I went through this place about a 5 years ago. Then a year ago I went through the stage of connection to source and everything (kundalini awakening) and felt a sense of bliss and loss at the same time. I soon realised that I couldn’t function in this world as the higher self of complete awareness and needed to step back into my character to carry on. Only I will never be the same, I am a witness to the show. I watch and experience the journey of my ego physical self knowing that these are lessons as part of my souls journey. This awareness stops me from getting to involved in the story, however sometimes I get lost. So having the awareness that it’s all nothing helps me to pull back upwards. As the saying goes ‘before enlightenment, chop wood carry water, after enlightenment chop wood carry water’. We pretty much have to carry one and make some meaning from it all. Even though we know it’s not real. The gift of awakening can be a curse too. At the same time we learn about pure consciousness connected love and no longer feel alone.
I love hearing words like this 😊❤
Thank you. This makes perfect sense.
I took an interest into conspiracy and occult related podcasts and books some time ago. Very recently I reached a point to where the depths I reached and the things I discovered shattered my world and everything I knew up to that point.
I experienced this "void/emptiness/hermit" stage for a few days. I can only describe it as existing - but realizing on the surface - superficially, almost everything we've been taught to believe or what is important, is a lie and doesn't matter in the least.
Then... around about the 4th or 5th day, for some reason it just shook off of me. Without any real intention or effort, it was gone. Still going to work everyday, still studying, still focused on the goals and the future I would like to live in. But with a lot more appreciation and love for family and people around me, nature and experience. With much less care for bickering or getting into arguments or teaching people lessons. What used to infuriate me now is just a blip of disappointment then acceptance that you can't expect everyone to do the right thing all the time or for them to not be selfish. Work on yourself, then let that radiate outwards infinitely.
I’m confused as to what you mean by not real, do you mind elaborating on that further? My understanding of the reality of our consciousness is that there is the matrix, which is the illusion and then the reality which is our souls and when we wake up, we see the illusion but that doesn’t mean the reality is nothing… in fact the matrix is what is empty, not the reality of who we are and what our purpose is in this life. So I don’t understand why you are saying, you needed to carry on even though you knew nothing mattered, that seems like a very bleak perspective on life. If life is nothing and there is no purpose then what the meaning of living? In regard to the woman in this video, I think I agree with everyone, maybe it is just a phase of shedding and stripping down to nothing before you step into the real you. A period of not knowing and feeling not sadness but no direction.
Wow I had the same thing! I had the most beautiful awakening but realised I had to step back into life as in my state of Grace I was just pure bliss for a few days and had no desire to reply to messages from friends or really be in my “life” but I saw that I couldn’t abandon it and had to step back but with a new wisdom. I also sometimes get lost but I also think that is part of the journey :) thanks for sharing yours!
I wish everyone who is staying alone like me well.. happy new year in advance dear people.
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Happy belated new year
Suzanne, love your sincerity. The void you talk about isn't the end. The suchness has a greater good, not neutrality. When you stop expecting to feel excitement. In this flow your higher self will allow back your ego and thoughts in your life but they will be of a higher quality; you then live in both worlds within and without and you will experience happiness and sadness again but it will not rock your centered core. Wishing you joy and happiness in the future.
I agree. Shes not done yet. It comes back.
This is true.. you will be more inlove with existence. It wont be just a void. You will flow more, tears will easily run down. You will be touched and vibrate with this aura.. This void isn't empty.. even if it looks and feels empty to the senses.. it is full of life 🙌❤️
I agree as well, this is just a phase before like you are saying, one comes back in to the world but not of the world, in zen we have the ten oxherding pictures that describes this journey.. In the last picture one is back at the market place with giving hands wanting to serve and be of benefit to the ONE from a place of love ❤️
Totally, for me the void phase lasted many months, but after that new goals and new sense of a mission came.
Correct… ♥️🤗👍
In my life I feel completely misunderstood. I’m really alone in this world and people really don’t know who I truly am. They have no idea the pain I feel on a daily basis. I put a smile on my face to masquerade what’s really going on inside. I’m past middle age now and I’ve gotten used to the numbness and dealing with loneliness on my own. You see someone on the street and they appear to have it all together but in reality they are just as lost as the rest of us. I think a lot of us are in the same boat here on earth but the one common denominator is the idea of love and loving yourself and finding Beauty in the world. Love is the language of the universe whether we know it or not.
People are not there to understand you. They have their own problem - that you don't care about by the way.
Hello Michael. I too have had a lonely life even when I am with those I love. I am interested in nondualism and it helps me: such a wonderful philosophy. I have a brain disorder that prevents me from seeking friendships beyond the few I have outside of my family. I’m trying to love better-myself as well as others. Fear lives with me though. Peace to you.
pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Go deeper into the awareness of "I am" what others call ego death, and you will experience your true nature, true freedom, and unbounded love and acceptance.
1 Corinthians 13:4-5: Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Proverbs 30:18-19: There are three things that amaze me-no, four things that I don't understand: how an eagle glides through the sky, how a snake slithers on a rock, how a ship navigates the ocean, how a man loves a woman.
Song of Solomon 4:9: You have captivated my heart, my sister, my bride; you have captivated my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace.
Proverbs 10:12: Hatred stirs up conflict, but love covers over all wrongs.
1 Peter 4:8: Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins
Corinthians 13:13: And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Romans 12:9: Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.
Colossians 3:14: And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.
Ephesians 4:2: Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.
Jude 1:2: Mercy, peace and love be yours in abundance.
❤️
Watching my mother die of cancer when I was 15 and now seeing my father’s slow decline with Alzheimer’s in a care home 30 years later is teaching me more about life than any book, movie or TED talk
peace be with you
praying for you!
i pray for a better day for you
Careful not to discard the importance and contribution of those, altho to each their choice.
Be strong and keep going
Tears in my eyes. For the first time, it feels like someone from the outside is saying exactly what has been coming from within me. I thought nobody would ever understand me, but I guess there are people with exactly the same conclusions. Just one word, Thanks!!
Me too
Can you tell me more about what your experience was like, and where you've landed now?
Happy for you, brother!
Yes that's the thing I've learnt we are all in this together people are just as much of complex human beings as we are we need to acknowledge others humanity and then we can probably more easily acknowledge our own
The seeker is complex while the truth is simple. The sanyasssin said:"I'm experiencing suffering." The master answered:"No. You suffering your experiences." Thank you for your profoundness.
Yeah,I also think the same....we are making it complicated.
What you have described is also called depersonalisation. I practiced Advaita for 12 years and this happened to me too. Now my path has brought me back full circle, as I am reconnecting with my individual life, in a volitional manner. Suffering does not cause me any fear anymore, because I am more than capable of quieting my heart in the face of it, instead I choose what suffering to undertake, for the benefit of the creations that will come out of it. The end of suffering is not an achievement, what it can be is a volitional process, to achieve peace, while undertaking greater challenges in life. Be a person, with all your flaws, pains and suffering. Be a person, with all your gifts, talents and joy. There is no need to pay a price for the end of suffering. Choose how you will feel, while you are alive. We will all be neutral when we are dead.
Well said. I can relate to this.
Very, very well said. If you cannot be in the world, while being beyond the world, you have not finished your journey quite yet.
Perfectly said. 🥰 so grateful for your comment!
This happened to me too, not from practicing Advaita, but from going through a bunch of trauma, getting sick, endless stress and then suddenly realizing that this moment, right now is all there is, and having my lifetime of seeking suddenly stop. I also called it depersonalization, along with a lot of other things. I took the medical sounding, mental health perspective at times because there was more support for that. What followed was about 7 years of consciously dying, as everything I believed about myself and my world slowly and painfully disintegrated, and there was nothing I could do to stop it. It no longer mattered if I told myself I had depersonalization, because I no longer existed. There was and is no one here to be depersonalized, and that's a whole lot better than suffering from depersonalization. I no longer suffer with anything. Suffering comes from non-acceptance. There is still pain, and challenges and problems, but everything is accepted and dealt with, so there is no suffering, no resistance. You don't have to be a person to have flaws and pain, neither to have gifts, talents and .... the joy of life after the end of the person is something almost heavenly. Each day is a blessing and a gift. No one chooses how to feel, feelings come and feelings go, some are pleasant, some, not so much, but it's life and the only thing neutral is the judgement or response. There is an evenness in response to life, a life that can truly be chosen from a place of truth, because once the person is gone, there is nothing left but the reality of who and what we really are....nothing and everything at the same time. I'm sorry, I might be wrong, but it sounds like you threw the baby out with the bath water. We can have it all, only when we can accept having nothing. We can be everything, only when we can accept being nothing. Once you let go of all the illusions of control, and merge into the void, something new and indescribable is born out of nothing. It's not a new person, but life, direct from source, flowing through. Liberation is not for everyone, but don't doubt it exists, once free, in hindsight, you realize it was the one thing truly worth living for.
Alot of ME-ING in this comment.
Sounds like your still DREAMING 😅
I've been through this as well. When you let go of the people and things that cause the abuse and pain, there is a void, emptiness. It is the absence of the outside pressure that left me both confused and feeling empty. After a while my wounds started to heal slowly, the void wasn't empty anymore. It slowly became filled with me, the space i should have taken in the world, but couldn't. This bit felt so awkward to me, because the void, the emptiness inside and out was so awkward and difficult. But it isn't the end, it's a new beginning. With freedom and room to grow again. I can only say, give yourself time to explore this void, and you'll find excitement again. It will be different though, focused on people and things that matter, less material (which is a social crutch). But that is what makes life beautiful.
Thanks
“… the space I should have taken in the world but couldn’t “ ❤ this. Is my experience too. Thanks for sharing !
This is very nice to hear, thank you! Because I certainly am looking towards a true life of my own for the first time 🙏
I find myself thinking about this when I am alone with my thoughts. I've felt a deep resistance to progressing on the path because it occurred to me very clearly that not only is my suffering dissolving, but my ability to feel excitement and passion as well. I realized that the price for lifting my burdens is also the end of the extreme opposite. All extremes dissolve, and what is left is this neutrality which feels like a strange void or depression at times. But I remind myself that I can fill this void with service towards others and compassion, so that I stay on the path, and at least if I'm not ready for enlightenment I can at least continue practicing how to be a genuinely good human.
That's me lately. I feel empty, it almost feels like depression but I am not particularly sad, just a bit weirded out feeling why don't I have the same goals and enthusiasms towards life anymore. There are no big desires, no temptations. This kind of contentment feels like I don't need to achieve anything anymore, when I am just 35 yrs old yet. Maybe this is a preparation for a brand new journey where I need to leave out my old self. time will tell
Are you "still" in life? We all need a road to be on in life, something to work towards, the next stage. Depression can be that transitional period where you know its time to make some changes and move on to the next stage of your life, but need to be ready. Having a framework around your life and day to give you structure and a focused goal to slowly work towards makes things come into focus easier. Find that road to be on. Let necessity guide you in life. Plan your next day at night and if you don't hit all your tasks accept sometimes we all need passive time, or depressed states to recover.
I know that struggle and this all greatly helped me. Having guard rails and a framework in life to work towards a tangible thing really makes it alot easier to start feeling hope and motivation again. Good luck to you.
Same here. Nothing really moves me, but I don't think I'm depressed. It's a sort of nihilism (what's the point or everything) but without bitterness. A sort of standstill.
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@@thepunisherxxx6804 This is so beautifully stated. And, such wonderful advice. I am so grateful I came upon your comment. Thank you.
Don't worry brother. Live your life and enjoy it how you'd like, because in the year 2080 is when everything changes.
If you're prepared to throw your old life away and start anew with as a space gangster, meet in the front of the Luxor in Las Vegas on January 1st, 2080. Cyborg up and get as much metal/bionics on ya. We're causing trouble on the Moon and Mars. See you soon space gangster.
I'm sure UA-cam is becoming sentient, I have no idea how this turned up in my recommended but I relate deeply ❤️
Same
I watched a couple of hours of Tony Parsons last night, now this pops up, I like it.
Well if we’re all the universe we’re also you and we’re also UA-cam. So you filmed this video and put in on your own feed ❤
the AI is ALWAYS listening....
"The price of truth is everything, but nobody knows what everything means until they're paying it." Jed McKenna
random but this is so true for someone who has been betrayed by the person they trusted the most
These things,these labels. Words, sounds,vibrations. Energy, it's all energy. Never ending, ever changing.
Infinite.
I was looking for this today and they you are. You popped up. I had the death of the ego 3 years ago as a successful DJ, friend, lover, party person. The following week I wanted nothing or nobody. I sold my vinyl and changed my name. I was left with nothing but I realised I have everything. I live in the now. I read and do everything to help others. I am never bored in a vacuum. This awakening is beautiful. Standing on the outside you see a sinking ship and everyone trying to repair it. When you let go, well, when I let go it’s just peace. Life is about peace and love. We are here to learn this one thing. We are here as many times as it takes. When you let go of attachment it is everything. It’s a shock at first. 2/3 weeks after I walked away from everything a beautiful old man approached me in my city. I was sat a bit lost, well very lost trying to understand my desire to leave everything behind. This man spoke my name, squeezed my arm and said “Everything is going to be alright”.
Omg same..I can literally stare at a wall and never feel bored for hours if I wanted to. This happened around the beginning of my 20s after I went through a series of traumatic events. I always feel this inner peace inside me once I let go of the world. People think I'm strange when I don't celebrate my birthday, or care about any holidays. As far ad I'm concerned, my gift is experiencing what it feels like to be alive in human form--negative or positive.
@@onexonesie that's the inner peace that sadly some will never come to experience no matter how many material things they aquire or how many likes and followers they have on social media. You my fellow human being, spiritually wealthy beyond comprehension to those who don't have it. Blessed may you be on your journey.
“I had the death of the ego”
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm trying to work in my business and be excited when I'm not and don't care all that much. I still need security in the physical world and am not sure how to let go of that even though I know it's not real.
@@craigbarton8418 That came to me Craig when I developed Christ consciousness. I was inexplicably drawn to the works of Neville Goddard. I now 3D print everything I need. “Ask and you shall receive”. You only receive when pure of heart, when you have become the “pearl” that the universe is trying to turn you into. I’ve read all holy books but taken away the religion. I understand them all as avatars. When you let go with bliss, love and grace, and above all FAITH. You receive enough to be blissful. I have, it works for me now. I see a few miracles a week when I need something. The key is FEELING. Feel in what you desire with a humble attitude. You will receive what is meant for ALL under grace 🙏
Thank you for sharing! I never understood the philosophy of thinking that everything is just an illusion and that enjoying the art, music, food, sports, sex, having a family, learning things, helping each other and having dreams and goals is not real and valuable. When I look into the wide open, honest eyes of my 1 year old granddaughter, I see reality, truth, love and meaningful life! And I want this little girl to learn to love life in all it’s fullness. And yes, there will be suffering, too - but she can learn to trust herself, trust that love and truth cannot die and is worth protecting. - I hope the next step in the so called Enlightenment movement is to awaken and use our time and energy to help people who suffer from starvation, corruption and war - and to begin to care for our Earth, the nature and all the wonderful life here. This life is real! That is something we can know, and that gives more meaning than we could ask for!
I am sorry you missed the message.
Hmm.
I had that feeling for a little bit. Now I just look at it like the stakes have been lowered. Everything doesn’t carry the level of importance or weight that I had thought. I was overburdened with stuff that I carried with me my entire life! I was able to put it all down, rest a bit, and decide what was worth carrying from now on. I can now carry on with my role with more skill and enjoyment!
Beautifully put :D
This is why the internet matters.
Real life doesn't matter, nothing matters as much as the spectacle.
If you don't want part of it, and you're listening; it's ok. You're ok.
These people all go. It don't matter, you matter as much as you decide you matter.
Suffering is applied to all of us, I have to take responsibility. But suffering is not meaningless.
That's the value, that's the meaning, that's the value, it's how much of a shortcut it is towards living.
watching this feels like a warning to not wander down that path
Humanity is a pathless jungle. This fact has led us to accept the fear and worries of others as a reality, because in that there is comfort. But only to the courageous who stands alone does the jungle sing a song which leads to its fruits and flowers.
That's becasue the step after this is unconditional love for everything & everyone and you don't see that here. So if you take out the emotions, or good or bad duality labels, you can summarize the whole video in this way: There is no other.
This video makes it sound that way to me as well.
There is still a disconnect - what is being said has not settled in her yet, she still has many questions yet unanswered & I sense many fears still present ❤
Everbody walks this path when they're ready. ❤
Maybe
Agreed. Maybe I’m just too “western,” but having language, “logos,” is what makes me a human, utterly unlike a chimp, a dolphin, or a wolf. (It also happens to be the weapon that we’ve evolved to ensure our survival. Without language, and civilization, we’d have gone extinct.) And if being human is inherently tragic - the Greeks thought so - so be it. This is the only universe we humans have, and we may as well accept that. Saying that this is all only an illusion has always struck me as a form of moral irresponsibility.
And besides, there’s a blatant contradiction there. If the ego is a mere illusion, just who is having that illusion?
Some people have already told you that this isn't the end, and I just want to go more in-depth into that, and give you a bit of a roadmap to help you find your way to the next phase of this work (work that I am still in the process of doing, myself).
If we think of attachments like addictions (because that is essentially what they are), there are two ways to let go of an addiction: The most common way, and what you seem to be describing here, is to recognize that the addiction is causing us harm, and to decide that the cost is not worth whatever short-lived pleasure we may derive from holding onto it. However, while that eases the burden placed upon us by the addiction, it leaves a hole behind, because the underlying reason that the addiction was formed hasn't been addressed. That is why there is a "cost". The attachment may leave, and it may reduce the intensity of suffering significantly, but to approach enlightenment from that perspective operates on the mistaken belief that suffering could possibly come from attachment, when in reality there is nothing to attach to. It's still a projection of our suffering onto the world and our false, egoic selves. The TRUE, core suffering that caused us to form attachments in the first place still remains. The fact that you perceive the letting go as a cost tells me that's what you are experiencing now, and in this video you seem to be carrying a tremendous amount of pain that is trying to express itself through your eyes and your voice.
There's another way.
The other way to let go of an addiction or an attachment is to realize that all addictions are maladaptive ways of attempting to meet a core need. When we meet that need, then we no longer feel any pull towards the addiction, because it pales in comparison. The void is alive. Our true nature is not really emptiness as we as humans understand it. Suffering is caused by manifesting into a world where our physical senses and our perception of separate being mask our connection to that internal fullness. Suzanne (and anyone else who may be reading this comment), the definition of unconditional love is to hold space. To allow all that is to be, without judging or trying to change it...including our attachments and our egos. That is what the void is. It is the space of pure, unconditional love and potential, and it is all around and through what we perceive as us. It is our being, and it is the thing our shared Universal Soul cries out for every moment of every day. There is no cost; there is only the gaining of an awareness that our attachments can't hold a candle to the true fundamental nature of our Being. If we find that true nature, then attachment and suffering dissolve on their own, because they're no longer needed. But when we focus on ending suffering, we reject things that the true nature of our being is always holding space for, and thus we block our ability to rest in that space. This isn't about ending suffering; it's about opening up to the true fulfillment of unconditional love.
Thanks Morgan
Beautifully written, profound
Very wise stuff. I hope she reads this.
Thank you🙏❤️
that's a very, very long-winded way of saying chill with the still.....
I've been enjoying reading the comments. Everyone has their own insight and it's crazy that I can relate to this video and most of the comments. So grateful to just be here and be able to love.
i was in this very very recently. but life is moving again, n sometimes i almost forget there is no me, but just everything. im so peaceful, i still smile and i even have goals, but i don’t desperately desire. i just want movement. i feel like i’m no longer in the void state bc this new place i’m in is about movement. the way you speak reminds me so so much of myself a month ago.
“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
So you’re saying, you’ve never suffered?
nothing is optional.
Toxic positivity
@@rafaelgabrielgarlinidal-bo9496 lol?
"Suffering just means your having a bad dream. Happiness means your having a good dream, Enlightenment means getting out of the dream altogether." - Jed McKenna.
Suzanne's true non-dual voice can be heard at 17:16
That is exactly what I thought too:) It gave me shivers.... Rarely we hear human substance so clearly.
@@filiphedvicak but, but….Susan
Spot on!
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Aho, the sprit ain’t aged a day!
The experiences Suzanne describes are what made me stop meditating so seriously. It felt impossible to go on living a normal life whilst feeling so detached. I'd still go about life like normal but it felt like I was faking it. Even though I felt more present and my focus was far stronger, I found it very hard to feel like I was truly connecting with others, since they were still seeing ego-derived meaning in the world whilst I was viewing it in the way Suzanne describes here.
It may be true that something comes after this void, but as far I can tell there is no guarantee that one reaches that.
This why contemplating is more valuable the meditation. Once you get to place of contemplating then meditation makes more sense because you truly start to see what meditation is for .
I go through this exact experience in and out. Not so much recently but when I experience it, I feel like an actor in a play that pulled out of the show but everyone keeps on acting.
@@megaawesomedaisy Yeah that's a good way of putting it. Is it induced by meditation for you, or does it just happen by itself?
@@sleve_mcdichael Yes, meditation definitely adds to it. Experiencing different cultures and settings is big one for me - it reminds me that the norms that we all live by are made up because it reveals another group of people that is living by their own set of norms and then I end up contemplating how collective and individual personality/identity is an illusion that we all play along in. It usually starts like that.
I hope that makes sense. It's not necessarily bad, but one still need to human things one needs to do and can't be resting in awareness forever lol.
The heart opening is when the nothing that was a someone is seen as everything. This has perhaps not yet "happened" yet there in the story❤
Thank you for sharing. Once, not too long ago, I went over to the river to take a walk. I was not in a particularly good mood. I was feeling a bit grouchy but I continued to the trail from my car. All of a sudden, out of nowhere, a feeling of total, overwhelming happiness came over me. I have no idea if everyone that was there was also feeling this way but I was grinning broadly, as I could not do anything else and I was just marveling at how happy I was for absolutely no reason whatsoever. I was smiling at everyone and they were all smiling at me for real - not just politely. I cannot describe this adequately. It was completely different than other happy times. I still do not know how to describe this experience. I am a 77 yr. old woman and I have had an interesting and very challenging life. At times I had quite an intense meditation practice that brought on amazing experiences on a regular basis. For a number of years though, I had not been meditating. I have always said I am an agnostic because I have no idea what is really going on here. Maybe dreams within dreams within dreams. 💛
“The search for truth is the most dangerous of undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live” Nisargadatta
Oh and also I love cemeteries they are my favourite places. I can sit in them for hours. I’m not sure why but just being around people who have passed away is extremely peaceful and comforting to me. I understand these people were once just like me with the same problems and insecurities and now they are completely at peace. Maybe I’m weird I dunno
You’re not weird I like them too
Makes a lot of sense to me
I've never really felt that fear of cemeteries that most people have.
Depending on the day, when I come across one I either experience sadness for their loved ones who no longer have them in their lives, or joy for the deceased because they made it out of this corrupt and wicked system... Or a mixture of both.
Not sure they're at peace, life continues. It depends on their karma.
You are why god knows the taste of chocolate. How deeply you are able to experience the beauty of life, the good and the bad, expands how incredibly life is experienced. Your honest experience I relate to well. Finding so much joy now beyond that. Be blessed. This is when it starts to get fun. You are detached from the outcome, you realize it’s all a game, and become a trickster for love for the highest good. Or not. It is as it is. Keep smiling, friend.
a trickster for love 🤣 i love that
Basically I don't want to make, build or sell anything at this point.
I panicked when I knew my life was my own. It's your time to decide what to create or destroy. I'm happy to see that you are following the heart stream as well. Peace be with you sister you got this 🙏💚🌎
Most beautiful message this fading old man can receive on a Sunday evening. Thanks for sharing
Fading old man or blossoming illumination? Perhaps a bit of both.
Blessings 👐 💚
It's all fun and games until the illusion actually starts fading away.
And then it’s fun and games again. It’s nothing and everything. All is coming into being and passing away over and over.
I realize that's the common reaction for most people but I seem to be different in some critical way. I've always felt (at least since I was quite young) that this world is illusion and that I needed to somehow see through it or wake up from it. I want it all to fade so I can see the truth. The world is fiction but so is this character of "me" so why cling?
I am laughing but it's sad and true, and I hear Nietzsche went and never came back.
Something I find very interesting about this video + all the comments and engagement with it, is that there seems to be a generalised leaning towards the idea of ‘the nothingness’, ‘the meaninglessness’ etc. … but then … all this people reaching back, offering their comfort, understanding, and support. Sharing their experiences, etc. of course, it is beautiful to see. But, none of those words (either from the video or in response to it) could be possible if they did not hold meaning, if they were empty, if they were nothing. Isn’t there an inherent desire (expressed simply by the posting of this video and the engagement with it) to connect, to be close, to be heard and understood, to share oneself and be met with knowing and holding, to provide comfort to those we love and are moved by in empathy? And yes … with all this comes suffering, pain, loss, etc. (duality) … but, even in the nothingness and meaninglessness, it seems that there remains a desire to connect with someone, somewhere, in some way …. And perhaps there is ‘meaning’ in that itself … ❤
This sounds like a relief to me because my life experience was seldom very satisfactory, mostly chaotic. Therefore I don’t have to take it so serious, and what I chose to do, how it plays out, success/failure, what of it. Just be here in acceptance/oneness/love. Thank you Suzanne, blessings to you.
Suzanne, I have been meditating everyday now for months, and on a few occasions I have been able to experience silence. No comments from my mind. It is a completely comfortable place. There is no self-judgement. It is an odd feeling to feel free when you are not thinking about anything, but it is a fantastic feeling. Yogis have been doing this for centuries, and I hope to be able to more consistently get to this place, where no questions are asked and no answers are needed. You are obviously a very thoughtful person, and I hope that you can find a place like this within your being. I believe there is profound peace within you!
Instead of seeing Silence as a place that "I" go to, see it instead as what you really are. Remain as that and ignore all thoughts if that is too much then, ask, from where do these thoughts arise, in what do these thoughts have their play, where do these thoughts go when they fade away? Ask within, who am I? That Silence, if you remain as That, the seed of the mind will be burnt up in the fire of that steady Awareness. When the thoughts no longer arise and you rest in perpetual inner Silence, that is called mukti.🙂❤
@@lordwhite0 i am nowhere at this stage of insight but i realised that for me the silence comes when i tune in to spaces between thoughts like there's a little gap at the end of the thought like there's with the breath in this space i can feel like the thought is slowly emarging out of this gap if i pay attention cearfully for long enough my mind gets the quality of this gaps i am still in persute of finding when it happens or if it's even worth it searching
@@lordwhite0 In a dream I was talking to someone and I heard a voice, perhaps it was my own, difficult to know in dreams, that said Silence and Mind are two states you choose to be but who is choosing? And when I woke up I felt that Awareness was the activity of choosing but that both Mind and Silence are experienced as Self-states, something I 'have' or 'know'. The important thing was that even Silence is not IT. I never thought about it like that being convinced Silence was IT'S ultimate nature but its not. What do you think?
@gideonros2705 I think u have to FEEL it's ultimate nature. And that is usually easiest when the mind is quiet.
"A condition of complete simplicity (costing not less than everything)" - T.S. Eliot
Thank you for sharing this. It is seldom voiced. If one is sincere in their endeavor to know, to see, to stand at the center of Being, everything that is not you will drop away. When I started spiritual practice over 50 years ago I did so with the purpose of escaping suffering and attaining lasting, perfect peace, to know and see things as the truly are, but primarily in response to a nameless, formless, inexpressible urge from within the depths of my being. I thought I could and would attain a place where I was still "me", but a me without negative qualities or experiences. It is nothing like I imagined. The things and experiences that used to bring me joy, excitement, things I felt compelled to get and achieve, no longer touch me. The "me" was just a collection of beliefs and ideas. Now I am drawn to absolute stillness, no thingness, and nothing else. The only seeking is the occasional desire to be free of seeking, when it arises. I will rest here as I am, as things are. As Lao Tzu said "The student learns by daily increment, but the Way is gained by daily loss. Loss upon loss, until at last comes rest".
*As Lao Tzu said, "The student learns by daily increment, but the Way is gained by daily loss. Loss upon loss, until at last comes rest."*
I'm blown away by this. Not sure why I'm only coming across this now.
From a very young age, my life has been a constant succession of immense and tremendous loss. Over and over. So much pain and mental anguish, time after time and it never got any easier. I used to ask myself why? Why does it keep happening, what am I doing wrong?
Until about a month ago.
It all came together in the subconscious I guess, because my attitude has completely shifted.
When bad things happen or things don't go the way I would prefer them to, I no longer am upset by the circumstances. This newfound understanding that no matter what happens, it's that way for a reason is so much more a peaceful existence.
Just recently watched a short video of the story titled "The Chinese Farmer".
That and the quote you included at the end of your comment really put things into perspective for me. My deepest appreciation, thank you for sharing that with all of us.
this video made me feel a lot less alone in the thoughts that i have on a daily basis when it feels like everyone and everything around me can just fully immerse themselves in this reality, while i feel stuck in one place as if time and the universe are moving on without me and it can be very isolating especially when im around loved ones and people i care for because it feels as if i cant be fully present or enjoy things at times because i am now aware of this ultimate nothingness. I think part of this is also because ive indulged in vices for several years that i thought would "cure" me of this dissociative existence but it made things worse and i dont think it was necessarily the vices but my reaction and use of those vices. it almost makes me feel ungrateful because i feel like the typical reaction to realizing that the universe has no meaning would be to find ur own meaning and appreciate the gift of the present moment even more like ur sister. but its done the opposite to me and maybe it was because i became aware of these things at such a young age that it was too much to process, but i feel as if i became fearful of this ultimate truth and the infinite void/illusion that is all around us while we are stuck in a finite existence. the more question i asked the universe the more unsatisfied i became with the answers i was given. and now im at a point where i feel paralyzed by the illusions of destiny/free will because i know it makes no difference what i do in this world so why should i do anything at all. and although i know the rational thing would be to create my own meaning and motivation, which i try my best to do, its easier said than done. i was not born wealthy but i was also not born fighting for survival and so i have been blessed with so much when i have done nothing to deserve it and i feel as if the only way i can repay the universe is if i do something great that will be recognized by everything and everyone , even though, again, it has no meaning. obviously cause and effect exists but its so difficult accepting ur function as a human while figuring it out in this reality because the ego wants everything for itself while the higher self wants to detach from these worldly influences and be free, but like u said in order to reach that u must let go of everything which is something i cannot come to terms with. all i know is that we know nothing but i am grateful that im not alone in this struggle to make sense of everything going on around us. so thank you :)
You are not alone my friend. Nothingness is not the best way to describe what we are, and I dislike using that word. The void is real, but it is not nothingness. It is everything. It is everything that was ever thought of, everything that ever existed. It is the source of all things and it is you. What you want is to take part in this existence in a way that doesn't feel empty and devoid of meaning. You have that ability in you. No matter what you hear about the origins of this universe from others, no one can tell you for sure what it is or isn't. That's up to you to determine. So if you are in belief of a system that robs you of meaning for your life, you are subscribing to more suffering. You have a choice. To find your purpose, or lack of purpose, in a way that satisfies you. It's your playground. I don't subscribe to this belief that because it's all a big mystery that it's all nothingness. You are something. Your thoughts are something. Your feelings are something. They may be a limited perspective within an otherwise infinitely grand existence that you do not fully understand, but do not dismiss this world as nothing. You get to choose what it is or isn't. And in the end, it may all be wiped clean, and go back into the source of everything to be recycled again. But for now, you're reading and typing and feeling and thinking. Deal with that first, my friend. That is the moment.
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Thank you for sharing this. You have helped me a lot today. 🙏💕
you sound super intelligent… i had the same thoughts as u but idk why it is happening to me when i did not engage in any spiritual awakenings
Since the experiences of awakening I have had I’ve found a much more mature and healthy relationship with my suffering and my joy. I’ve learned to not emphasize all my purpose on a certain goal and to embrace chaos and change. I also am able to easier get through suffering, knowing it’s the cost of the things my current form put meaning on as joy. I do feel we wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t purposeful, so I try and take the pain in stride, knowing every act good or bad I do has a concrete effect on the world around me
How long had you practiced before your awakening experiences?
Dear "Suzanne", thank you for this incredible sincerity, it is remarkable. Let me share one important old discovery, that was left forgotten. This quote from Albert Einstein is not taken seriously enough: ""The distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion." It is meant seriously and it is correct. We exist in spacetime, feel life from birth to death. Every second of life we think we are "only" in this second. But life is felt in every second. It is always now.
Beautiful. Thank you Filip :)
Wow I relate. I was just telling my sister today how I feel distant from people bc not many people have been to the edges where I’ve been so I feel isolated because I don’t relate with anyone like I used to. Just today I was saying that and then your message came up. That resonates with where I am where I’ve been. These synchronicities are what keep me going.
Where have you been?
im incredibly excited to see where this realization brings you. It seems dark in this moment but as we know there cannot be darkness without the light and vice versa. things are going to become even more beautiful for you than you could ever imagine. love and light and light and love for you Suzanne.
“There’s nothing here for you, because “you” don’t exist.”
This is actually quite profound. You’ve put words to a nagging feeling I’ve had for years. 🙏
I can remember sitting listening to a conversation. I found it interesting and wondered who was speaking. I suddenly realised the voice was mine. A good friend came to stay. She told me she cried on the train home. She said my body was the same but ‘I’ was no longer there. It was like this for 2 years or so. I chose to return to duality through relationship. Today I live in paradox between duality and oneness.
Was it unpleasant for the old you to no longer be there? If the old you is not really you, why let it sort of come back?
Wait, I don’t understand. Can you say more? This scares me. How did you return to duality?
This is so fascinating. So you entered non dual awareness during the conversation? Have you just rebuilt an ego, one that you are aware of?
So you made everything right!
i have a similar experience, feeling the need to returning to duality for others.
"I" went through this many, many years ago. Please know that everything continues to move and change, there is an eternal integration process. There is no end, not that has appeared. The void of nothing was in itself a process of realisation although many think it's the end, it is only the begining of a different experience.
The neutrality in itself moves deeper and wider, revealing more in the experience.
The absence of all can feel desolate but it is a stage of "undoing" that in itself deepens.
Language makes this very difficult to express as it just can't be.
The other thing is there are great books full of information from the past, the vedic traditions, shaivite and sufism have much information about this and beyond.
Best wishes to you. Xx
Wow I really feel this. "I" wrote something very similar and tried to express the inexpressible, and realized that I have to just accept the place beyond words and the mind, living always in the Now.
Strange I came across this video. I am a 35 years old, an exotic dancer, and I work to make a comfortable living. Recently I got sober from alcohol (6 months), became celibate, and let go of attachment to people places and things. I “let go” and also feel in a bitter sweet place that this life is temporary. This persona who I am is earthly, means nothing, and I am attached to nothing, just one with God. I can relate hearing your words🙏🏻
"one with God"...
what is an exotic dancer? ❤
you are so brave for speaking so freely & i believe you can truly help the world become more awake. We are lucky to have you.
Be well, Sister. Behind the Emptiness of No Self, there is an ocean of satchitananda. When I feel it, I want to laugh & cry at the same time; I want to hug the world.
I’ve often really questioned whether it is truly good to seek enlightenment, to see true nature, in this life. Is not the reason I am alive to experience all the peaks and valleys of human existence? To be totally caught up in this play, all the while knowing that the curtain will inevitably be drawn and this will end? I see death as the natural enlightenment, and I believe many do attain it through death. Why rush it? It is coming anyway. I see seeking enlightenment as a kind of will to suicide. And though the things we learn from such seeking can be helpful in the suffering of our lives, it does not change the fact that we are experiencing this, we are human. I know many would say, “No, true enlightenment is this or that,” but ultimately it is experiencing life with a degree of separation from everyone and everything else. I just do not know whether it is something worth pursuing, but perhaps I have not suffered enough.
Kinda funny that you think you have a choice.
A very interesting perspective. Can any other living creature enlighten themselves? Is it natural for us to do so. Maybe ignorance is bliss, but being ignorant can lead to anything happening in this life. But is that not how the life is supposed to be lived.
Who you think you are (the character) never existed except as thought...
If your "reason" for being here was to feed crocodiles, would you do that?
I would just like to say thank you and express gratitude. This 20 minute video just saved me years of experience, and the man typing (me) needs that time, so that he can be the most that he can be. Thank you for sharing.
I do not usually leave comments, but I felt compelled. Thank you for sharing this description of your journey. It is difficult to describe the indescribable yet you have done a great job trying to articulate a part of the journey that many people may wish to avoid or perhaps do not really think about. I needed to hear this today...thank you for sharing. You have a new subscriber.
UA-cam recommend this video today after I had a talk with someone about my mom who I thought really put a lot of focus on moving away from self to maintain order and peace. It's how a lot of people are in Japanese culture already. If I tried to get to know her personal hobbies and interests she downplayed them and acted like none of it mattered or had any meaning. It made me sad because I was searching for her so I could connect with her. I still connected with her when she told me stories from her past and it brought me a lot of joy (and because although she had written endlessly in her journals, I could never decipher her handwriting. She wrote very legibly when she had to scribble something to me but it seems her personal journaling was for her eyes only).
Anyway the process of letting go of your identity, while I realize isn't meant to be frightening, scares me. I'm not religious despite coming from a Christian family. I can see how distancing from yourself can help gain perspective and objectivity but at the same time, I found myself asking how does one value human life if nothing really exists? Is that something that is figurative or literal? I guess I'm asking because there was s time in my life when I had contemplated ending my life and part of what kept me alive was valuing my own existence and knowing the pain it would have inflicted on everyone I cared about. So I guess I'm essentially wondering if there is perceived danger in the belief that nothing is real and that nothing really matters. Is there a point in living if none of this is real?
P.S It takes courage to share. I hope you continue to post.
I also feel this way, watching this video scared me quite a bit. I agree with the fact that life is a pretend game and in the end nothing has real value, we pretend it does. But is clinging to and enjoying the ups and downs of life a bad thing? I feel like writing this down I am already answering my own questions. However why does the self have to dissolve to become enlightened? Because the self is the one that experiences both the good and the suffering. Fine I can't circumvent your wisdom haha. It is still unsure for me if it is worth it to gain enlightenment then. I like the world having color, although I am lucky to experience and have experienced more bright than dark colors, so maybe it is because of that. But why would I want to let go of that? Why give up the pretend game? Even though it is pretend it is still life. Even though you are actually not going anywhere, you experience it like that and that again colours this finite existence. Even though we are a mere speck on a slightly bigger speck in the near void that is the universe, I am unsure and would really like to know how attaining non-duality brings peace and still makes you appreciate living. If anyone can lend me his or her wisdom I would greatly appreciate it. But maybe I have to find this out myself, thank you for this video for giving me things to think about. And sorry for the long comment for anyone reading it.
The point of living is To Realize That Very Thing. The THING to realize is who you actually are. Iam telling you this because I am beginning to experience it. Everyone's journey to Self-Realization is unique. These are just words that Point in a direction. At some point one must untie the ropes holding your Boat to the perceived safety of the shore. Letting go of "Rope"is the hardest thing to do but once Free of the shore you just begin to go with the flow of the stream which eventually returns you to the ocean from whence you came. We have forgotten WHO we are and from WHENCE we came. As Shakespeare said "All the world is a stage in which we but play a part". It is what it is. Nothing more, nothing less.
"Nothing is real" or "nothing really exists" is a kind of misinterpretation i've learned. "Sunyata" which in buddhist communities is often translated as emptiness or nothingness/void etc is actually better translated as "nothingness and everythingness" at the same time. Your experience does exist. It is just the inherent substance that humans naturally assume everything to have that is illusory. Everything is just process. Look at yourself as a verb. The universe is "peopling" and you're part of this "peopling".
I think when you glimpse this emptiness then the mind naturally tries to make sense of it and you can end up with nihilism. But from the non-dual perspective nihilism is just a worldview and therefore it's just thoughts. You believe in a narrative in your head, which makes you think that because nothing has any inherent meaning that you can't enjoy it.
But why would that have to be the case? It's a huge assumption that there has to be a point in living. I think when you become more "awake" you let go of attachments (also too other people) which can feel like a loss but what you don't lose is love. You don't have to be attached to someone to love them. But it is a different kind of relating to people.
Buuuuuuuuut....
I have personally recently backed away from meditation that is directly aimed at getting behind the sense of self. I had moments in which it felt like everything was just happening without me having any agency and I was having panic attacks from it. I know rationally that I don't need to be scared but I think it is a very normal and human reaction.
It is the attachment to self which is the root of this fear and I think I'm too attached to the self still. Not good enough at letting go, which paradoxically meditation is a training to get better at but I think meditation aimed at Non-Duality is too direct of an approach for me at this point.
I am now looking into the Brahma Viharas which is also working on letting go of attachments but in a gentler way.
Another dangerous misconception i think is this "distancing from yourself". Equanimity to emotions (the ability to let the emotions be fully present while not getting swept away by them) is often confused with indifference to emotions. People can end up literally distanced/dissociated from themselves. Understanding this difference helped me lose a bunch of anxiety about this path.
I would say if nothing matters then everything matters. The point is you are free fundamentally, irreversibly , and by the fact that you are free, death is not an escape. It would also be pointless.
Thanks for sharing. I've experienced similar lack of understanding and connection with a parent like that. For whatever reason it's hard to wrap my head around the concept of a person & their entirety.
You can choose to participate in sufferings and pleasures of life if you would like to. Nothing exists, yet everything exists. One cannot be without the other
yess, nothing exists , yet everything exists. alan watts has been helpful with this for me :)
This is a powerful video. Thank you so much for sharing. This is what I try to tell people that walk a path for themselves. Nobody talks about this part. Everyone is wrapped up in the catch phrases like "awakening, enlightenment, etc. without knowing the full extent of what that actually means. The death of illusion of and in self. Thank you for your message.
Well said.
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I'm so glad to have found this video. I try and explain non-duality to people sometimes and when you start talking about the "downsides" people don't understand. It's tough to explain this kind of stuff when they don't even grasp "not being a person." It's nice to see someone explaining it so well
This is where I'm at. It's a strange place, so hard to put into words. I'm doing my best to ride the waves of nothingness, I know it's just another phase of this journey. Thank you for sharing! 🙏🏻💗
Yes, Dear One. How refreshing to see your deep honesty. I often joke that everyone chases (and sells) fearlessness but rarely does anyone chase after hopelessness....and, as you know, you can't have one without the other. Blessings
How is hope predicated on fear?
Suzanne, hearing you speak on loss of self (small "s") is beautiful to me. I have an overwhelming urge to hug you.
Tears are streaming down my face. As may be familiar to you, they are tears of a mixed feeling -- joy is in there, appreciation for the dissolution of the ego is in there, release from the former burden is in there. What I think I want to say is: I'm with you. My heart is with you. And I recognize the beauty of your being. And thank you. Thank you for expressing, communicating your journey and perspective. You've touched my heart.
I enjoyed the whole thing you said and your deep expression of serenity was really something I can wish for. It is no sense to ask you to keep on going but still I want to let you know that there is definitely someone who is being relieved by your work for which you might not have any desire.
For me this journey has just begun now and it is good to have some companion when it becomes difficult.
Whether you want or not but I want to thank you for just being there, for have you in this existence.
I feel when I wasn't as mentally or spiritually ready to hear this, I would have seen it as morbid. But seeing it where I am now, this honestly is motivation to WANT to experience true life. Because once its gone, it isn't just the suffering, but the good too. Which is super helpful to someone who is a hermit who wants to get to know new people, see new places..The more experiences I have, the more I yearn for those, keeping me grounded and well mentally. It is so amazing this video found me when it did.
Thank you for your brave honest in expressing what you're feeling.
This "good nor bad" idea struck me because I had this epiphany about a month ago when I realized I was grateful for my childhood traumas, since they shaped me into the man I am today where I can be a better spiritual leader for my family.
I have a video on my channel called "You are Cain." Where I talk about our trauma-bound experience in this realm. It all stems from the spiritual trauma our parents put us through, and their parents before them. I also get personal with my story of growing up in a single-mother household and how it shaped me as a person and how I learned to forgive my mother.
This is why they say ignorance is bliss. I believe playing in our life roles brings more purpose and happiness in our experience.
It challenges the idea of staying until you realize there is no where to go... no where to leave from... so you wait thinking you're waiting.
"Without it [self-realization], you will be consumed by desires and fears, repeating themselves meaninglessly in endless suffering. Most of the people do not know that there can be an end to pain. But once they have heard the good news, obviously going beyond all strife and struggle is the most urgent task that can be. You know that you can be free and now it is up to you. Either you remain forever hungry and thirsty, longing, searching, grabbing, holding, ever losing and and sorrowing, or go out wholeheartedly in search of the state of timeless perfection to which nothing can be added, from which nothing taken away. In it all desires and fears are absent, not because they were given up, but because they have lost their meaning." Excerpts from Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj's I AM THAT.
“My silence sings. My emptiness is full. I need absolutely nothing. I am forever complete”.
I almost never write comments and the chance that you will read this is slim I guess but as someone who benefited immensely from meditation to become a more balanced and happy person just my two cents: I feel like your very well-trained rational mind is trying to make sense of very intense experiences that necessarily transcend logic. what really are the ideas of "nothingness", "attachment", "purpose", "enlightenment" but human concepts applied to an ultimately in-comprehensive reality of being alive? should we really let them make us unhappy? that being said, what I can experience when meditating and when watching this video is an immense feeling of empathy; towards you, towards other people that commented and towards myself. after many years, this compassion has become an energy that finally outweighs the existential dread I experienced when my mind tortured itself trying to solve the enigma that is life. may you and everyone that is stuck in a dark place (or a place beyond dark and light) find their peace with being alive.
What a great video. It’s nice to see others going through this too. I’m happier than I have ever been. Just in a different way.
The experience of this life is still there ..That's the reason we are here .
We are not alone .We just dont need anyone as we did before ..Now we stand in self ..
That's deep
Thanks Suzanne for letting your heart speaks out, this is what most of us miss sometimes as you know there are not much people's around with whom you can talk about all this, yes infact one loves the silence indeed , but sometimes you just feel like expressing it out , ouch never mind,love you, god bless you.
Your sincerity and authenticity is moving and palpable, thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much for posting this, and for the work that you do in this world. I just came across this video today, so still learning about your work. It is so valuable, I feel, for a true lived perspective of awakening to be shared, from a young person, from a female person, from the expression of the subtle feelings / contemplations involved in the awakening process (as opposed to getting right into formal teachings). It is real and relatable. My expression and desires have led me to seek to serve in this world from this standpoint (working on form) -- solid awakened perspective then used to help alleviate suffering of others. Till life is just seen as light, safety, purity, peace, expression. Desires transformed -- maybe into intentions and logic-based desires. Rational and collective desires to awaken and anchor a shared consciousness of peace and safety / harmony, rather than ego / emotionally-charged desires.
i love seeing all of us going through and figuring out everything as humans this is truly a magical time to be alive in
Watching your witness of the Truth, makes me feel peace, you are the evidence, for this is possible on earth. I wish many people will reach your state of liberation. Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu.
I honor your journey. I wish I could give you a friend’s hug with a mom’s wisdom. It’s hard to see the inevitable passing of this stage when you’re in it. Life having moved through the stage you’re in, with growing awareness and at 61, more peace and living in this moment, not past or future, is sweet. We’re all clouds and rain and flowers, as Thick Nhat Hanh might tell us. You’re us. We’re one. I embrace you. You are home. ❤
I feel this totally! When I first realized non-duality, it was weird because I knew that technically all my suffering wasn't real, but I still had many attachments, and I've only grown through my excitement for the things I've desired in the past becoming less powerful. Even with this all being a play, meditation has been beautiful in allowing me to witness the feelings. There's always the choice when to be something, and when not to.
It's been weird being here when pretty much everyone I know is still deeply "someone". I feel so much love in my heart for everyone, and we'll just have to see how the play continues forward. I'm really excited to be growing up in a time which I believe will be the "great awakening". Humans realization of non-duality will be inevitable, it's just a matter of showing one another the compassion to let them realize it in their own time with the right guidance. Nothing can be forced. Thanks!
Your awareness is present and that's a beautiful thing. Whats in the way, is the way, and you're on your way. Stay strong, keep pushin'. we see you.
Thank you. You described the emptiness that an epiphany gave me in 2013. I was bereft. And done with so much. Slowly i came to a new place. And then I learn a new aspect of the same. Again and again. You’re right- joy is implied. The empty is so big. So now - i see myself make my meanings. I’m ok with that. Many blessings 🌺
Wow. I really love this place of clarity and honesty you’re coming from… it’s beautiful.
oh Suzanne - you are just who i needed to hear. my husband told me about your channel. it's refreshing to have a woman's perspective of non duality with a different voice from others whom i've listened to. this was imperative for me to hear in regards to relationships, which not a lot of non duality teachers discuss. thank you for your insight
It goes with you. All of it. You are the energy that is timeless. It changes yes, but it has value while you’re experiencing the now. We are one, and we are all loved and we are all connected. ❤
Thanks for sharing this Suzanne. It’s really useful to have an honest perspective on this topic.
It's crazy how the timing of this dropped right now- you put into words what I've been feeling.
Thank you, Suzanne. The empty nothing is open to everything.
It is ever so so beautiful to listen to you speak...being able to resonate with, and be a true witness to everything you are saying...so wonderful to recognise that I Am no-thing...no birth...no death... no worries... Truly amazing to be...
Beautifully and absolutely edgy honest, WOW such a robust conversation Suzanne, that message was a first for this, thank you.
Beautifully said ,moving and thought provoking.
Thankyou Suzanne for sharing your thoughts. Bless you
Suzanne keep going! I agree it’s a really strikingly odd feeling to know your self as everyone and everything and to become non-attached to the outcome of anything or to the relationships but to experience yourself as God living this beautiful experience the beauty doesn’t, and the beauty doesn’t die it just takes on a different. Meaning you see yourself and everything. I promise it will get better it’s just a part of the ascension process.❤❤❤❤ sending so much love to you
Thank you 🙏 so much my Dear for your Transparency and for your Courage to share your Process
Please know that you are not alone in this !!! And even more beautiful is the Recognition that we are all one, which helps so much with what you feel you are loosing, but is replaced, little by little with the awareness of true Reality
For me it is , that we are a spark of source that holds tremendous Love ( creative Power) which opens so many new Possibilities- even in this Lifetime
You are a co-creator with Source ( God etc. ) which is mind blowing to me
I understand that the grieving process is not easy but I hope and pray that you will wholeheartedly embrace who you truly are and just enjoy the Ride !!!!!
Much Love 💕 and Light to you beautiful Soul 🙏💕🌸
I had no idea who you were Suzanne.. never saw your face or channel before.. and when I saw it, when I saw your picture, I didn't have a clue what you were going to say.. and now I'm listening, and it is such strong synchronicity for me... Namaste
thank you for sharing this and expressing an insightful perspective. the beauty of the fleeting pursuit of happiness and existence through suffering is that it is a journey; a gentle reminder that's all we really just want from this short life and it's not just humans but all forms of life.
wonderful - so much appreciation!!
Awesome, thank you for sharing ❤
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hope there is no regret or longing dear Suzanne.
Where you are is where I have wanted to be for many years now. Where it all just goes away. Not just the suffering and the "bad" but also all the rest of it too. Maybe I'll experience that one day as well. I'm glad I found your channel.
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