Man I love the wrench turning videos, nice to see other folks run into some of the same issues as me and then I don't feel so alone 😂. Nice job fellas.
For most of us, this classic stuff is what we see, especially in our area. Rusty and crusty. Just take time for a couple cold ones and it will all go better, LOL. Cheers!
I love those old classics, the 500 is an incredibly reliable motor up there with the skidoo 583s. I feel your pain on that front end it sometimes feels like every bolt is its own fight
Triples are amazing but I am gonna say after a long day of ripping around especially on trails you feel it! They are heavy! Twins are nice in the sense that they are lighter and more nimble. Just my 2 cants. Amazing content as always Todd!
I hate a rusty, seized front end like that. It makes taking it apart nearly impossible, I'm sure you guys will get it though. Been thinking about adding a 2up to my fleet too, cool sled Todd. 🍻
@ you’re very welcome ! Really ain’t much but first of each month it’ll kinda add up and maybe help. lol. Duct tape Mike got Redemption it looked and sounded like on Nutters video. Awesome ! Always love what your doin but kinda nice twist with the twin and good old fashioned going through it and making it right. Take care T 🍺🍺
It was so bizarre at that time when Polaris went from the original Indy to the Evolved Chassis. It just never looked right. I think they then hurried to come up the GEN II Chassis. So much so that the 98 XC700 and 98 XC600 were basically the GEN II chassis with original Indy hoods. Then, in 99, they put the GEN II hood on the XC10 suspension they had the year before. It took them three years to recover from the Evolved Chassis experiment. The removable side panels were a glimpse of future snowmobile design, but the looks didn't cut it.
First Polaris I ever bought was a ‘94 500 Fuelie Evolved. I put on a low black windshield, red ski skins, and painted the snow screens red. Sharp looking sled, and that little fuelie motor was a sweetheart. Sold it to an older friend at work in ‘96, when I got an X-tra 12 XLT Special, and that little 500 is STILL being used at their cabin up the Shore.
@@andrewroberts8993 Yes, they did. After the Evolved chassis styling was such a complete failure they tried more new chassis. They were too focused on watercraft at the time. They took all their profits from the snowmobile industry and used it to build ATV's, boats, and watercraft instead of advancing the snowmobile lineup. Skidoo went the lightweight route with the MXZ670. Polaris realized their failings and followed with the USA made Liberty twins. I remember hearing a 97 RMK700 prototype startup up and thinking "that's a Skidoo". Now look, they don't even build watercraft anymore. Modern lightweight twins are still the staple of the industry.
@@TrakSpock1 I think polaris got lazy because the wedge was such a great platform thought the 90's they didn't have to change much. Why reinvent the wheel. Cat and doo set the bar on the a arm style and now look polaris has mastered that also. They have the best front suspension out there. Wish I could say the same about the powerplants. Once the liberty went cfi reliability went out the window. Thanks epa lol. The new motors are junk. Imagine buying a new sled and you have to buy a reliability kit lol. 2-3000 miles top end is done. If only they kept working with fuji things could have been different today.
Another great video guy's. Love this one watching you guy's doing stuff,i can't believe the views some people get working on stuff. Cheers from Todd Ontario Canada
On my ultra the SPI rings are always too small. Have to get bigger rings to get the right compression and gap. Those purple skis are Arctic cat skis. Make sure they have a rubber damper underneath the spindle that fits properly.
Had spi issues before, ended up going with pro x which i love. Never had a ring that far to big but over sized for sure. And oh yeah the struggle is real with suspension seizures lol 😮
I like that you are tackling everyday normally people projects too. Everyone has a cousin with a busted sled that needs love. Thanks for not being a snob.Sorry about the rings giving you fits. Also what does Riding Bastard mean? You mentioned in a few videos back. Sounds like a Minnesota Lake term, or it pre-dates Google. Thanks for the entertainment.
I believe you can drill out tub and wedge swap the evolve components. Xtra 12, whats nice about the evolve easy access chaincase clutch etc. the side panels are removable. 3 headlight bulbs vs the single wedge. The fuji 500 twin in my opinion bullet proof reliable 80s design.
If you would like to help out with the builds. Please click on the thanks tab below the video. Every bit helps. If you want to donate something please use the email in the description to get ahold of me. Thanks everyone!!!
Got a couple triple questions for you. Did Polaris make a 600 power valve triple? And what other size did they make the power valve triples and are the to sleeve them down to a 600?
Todd that one of the reasons I quit using SPI piston kits, I went to pro-x piston kits much better product and so far in 15 years I've had no issues with them.. maybe in your problem they may have been boxed wrong when you ordered them ?
For the ring problem. I've seen people order a ring set. And the rings came in a separate box. But it was the wrong rings for that piston. I think that's what happened to you.
Did you check rings on pistons themselves. Like just to check depth into piston ring lands and thickness of ring to ring land just for lil more data. If that checks out then the ring set is prolly just a .030 over set rings witch well not right.
That's the end result of people hauling sleds, quads, sxs's on an open trailer in the salt. But I'm sure you guys already know that. I cringe every time I see it.
Thanks!
🥰🥰🥰 thank you so much
Man I love the wrench turning videos, nice to see other folks run into some of the same issues as me and then I don't feel so alone 😂. Nice job fellas.
@@valhallaawaits6889 classic struggles 😁
For most of us, this classic stuff is what we see, especially in our area. Rusty and crusty. Just take time for a couple cold ones and it will all go better, LOL. Cheers!
@@airman6822 😁
I love those old classics, the 500 is an incredibly reliable motor up there with the skidoo 583s. I feel your pain on that front end it sometimes feels like every bolt is its own fight
@@SomeGuysSawShop I hate rust !!
@ I’m in the heart of the rust belt, ever see a suspension arm snap🤣 or the steering shaft snap off🤣
Triples are amazing but I am gonna say after a long day of ripping around especially on trails you feel it! They are heavy! Twins are nice in the sense that they are lighter and more nimble. Just my 2 cants. Amazing content as always Todd!
@@craiggowsell8798 thanks
I love your intro tho it cracked me up, whether it was improvised or you caught yourself screwing up. It was like damn….. it’s only a twin lol.
Those Classics are great sleds. I'm sure your Brother will enjoy it.
@@nuttersspeedshop good to do some twin work. Only 2/3 the work 😆
I hope that sled turns out really nice for them..I know you guy will do it right for them..
@@jodyhakamaki5602 we will
I hate a rusty, seized front end like that. It makes taking it apart nearly impossible, I'm sure you guys will get it though. Been thinking about adding a 2up to my fleet too, cool sled Todd. 🍻
@@chadbarton3235 cut cut and more cutting 😁
Thanks!
Thanks again buddy 🍻
@ you’re very welcome ! Really ain’t much but first of each month it’ll kinda add up and maybe help. lol. Duct tape Mike got Redemption it looked and sounded like on Nutters video. Awesome ! Always love what your doin but kinda nice twist with the twin and good old fashioned going through it and making it right. Take care T 🍺🍺
Every project you guys take on is interesting. Thanks for sharing
@@borealmetalworx 😁
It was so bizarre at that time when Polaris went from the original Indy to the Evolved Chassis. It just never looked right. I think they then hurried to come up the GEN II Chassis. So much so that the 98 XC700 and 98 XC600 were basically the GEN II chassis with original Indy hoods. Then, in 99, they put the GEN II hood on the XC10 suspension they had the year before. It took them three years to recover from the Evolved Chassis experiment. The removable side panels were a glimpse of future snowmobile design, but the looks didn't cut it.
@@TrakSpock1 very good points and great comment on how most Polaris fans felt at the time. Yes the side panels are awesome
They had the wedge, evolved and aggressive models available in 97-98. They had alot of ideas going on back then.
First Polaris I ever bought was a ‘94 500 Fuelie Evolved. I put on a low black windshield, red ski skins, and painted the snow screens red. Sharp looking sled, and that little fuelie motor was a sweetheart. Sold it to an older friend at work in ‘96, when I got an X-tra 12 XLT Special, and that little 500 is STILL being used at their cabin up the Shore.
@@andrewroberts8993 Yes, they did. After the Evolved chassis styling was such a complete failure they tried more new chassis. They were too focused on watercraft at the time. They took all their profits from the snowmobile industry and used it to build ATV's, boats, and watercraft instead of advancing the snowmobile lineup. Skidoo went the lightweight route with the MXZ670. Polaris realized their failings and followed with the USA made Liberty twins. I remember hearing a 97 RMK700 prototype startup up and thinking "that's a Skidoo". Now look, they don't even build watercraft anymore. Modern lightweight twins are still the staple of the industry.
@@TrakSpock1 I think polaris got lazy because the wedge was such a great platform thought the 90's they didn't have to change much. Why reinvent the wheel. Cat and doo set the bar on the a arm style and now look polaris has mastered that also. They have the best front suspension out there. Wish I could say the same about the powerplants. Once the liberty went cfi reliability went out the window. Thanks epa lol. The new motors are junk. Imagine buying a new sled and you have to buy a reliability kit lol. 2-3000 miles top end is done. If only they kept working with fuji things could have been different today.
Cant wait to see the results Todd. Those old 500 twins were bulletproof. I had a 98 Classic with the xtra 12, wish I never sold it.
@@ItsBrianLive they are the Energizer bunny of motors 😁
Another great video guy's. Love this one watching you guy's doing stuff,i can't believe the views some people get working on stuff. Cheers from Todd Ontario Canada
@@Kq750. Thanks man
Love the older Polaris'. Anything from late 90's to early 2000's, yes please.
@@MikePurdue-ky9pm 😁
On my ultra the SPI rings are always too small. Have to get bigger rings to get the right compression and gap.
Those purple skis are Arctic cat skis. Make sure they have a rubber damper underneath the spindle that fits properly.
@@PlaneButcher right on on the skis
Had spi issues before, ended up going with pro x which i love. Never had a ring that far to big but over sized for sure. And oh yeah the struggle is real with suspension seizures lol 😮
I like that you are tackling everyday normally people projects too. Everyone has a cousin with a busted sled that needs love. Thanks for not being a snob.Sorry about the rings giving you fits. Also what does Riding Bastard mean? You mentioned in a few videos back. Sounds like a Minnesota Lake term, or it pre-dates Google. Thanks for the entertainment.
@@amoskleinwolterink902 😆😆 it's the name of one of our sleds. Although I do like your other thoughts of what it could be 😁.
@@toddclyne3493 1)No Trail Permit 2) No head light 3)Riding 2Up on a standard sled.
Love the editing on this one, great upload.
@@jrhaines30 thanks 😁
Its missin a cylinder! Todd fix it! Trenton you know what to do.😂🍻
@@dubiousf00d 😂
I believe you can drill out tub and wedge swap the evolve components. Xtra 12, whats nice about the evolve easy access chaincase clutch etc. the side panels are removable. 3 headlight bulbs vs the single wedge. The fuji 500 twin in my opinion bullet proof reliable 80s design.
@@jeffpine3036 thanks great info
Holy crap was that thing stored in a salt pile? The seat looks nice though😂 you 2 are saints for fixing that up
@@MidnightPolaris800 open trailer salty roads 😭
Bought a set of SPI pistons a week ago with almost the same issue. Pistons were correct but rings were bigger both in width and height.
@@milodalton8416 dang they are having some issues
@@toddclyne3493 CHYNA.....LOL
Dude i love my twins. I have 2 99 Indy 500's and they are my favorite sleds. Way more fun to ride than my XLT....................
@@TomSelleck777 oh I'm not knocking them at all. We work on them from time to time. They just don't make it in the channel 😁
If you would like to help out with the builds. Please click on the thanks tab below the video. Every bit helps. If you want to donate something please use the email in the description to get ahold of me. Thanks everyone!!!
Looks like the wind screen has been modded. Good for 10 mph on the big end.... along with some weight reduction.
@@The4Z 😆😆 yeah that will be replaced with a nice extra tall one
Classic Fuji 500 Bulletproof. Nice cruiser.
@@ronwitt1 yes they are
Got a couple triple questions for you. Did Polaris make a 600 power valve triple? And what other size did they make the power valve triples and are the to sleeve them down to a 600?
Todd, got any use for an Xtra 12 skid & a couple trailing arms, spindles? 95'ish.
@@waults always
Good thing Trenton is young to handle that skid lol
@@jeffnicks2128 he gave up and walked away. The old man stepped in and pulled it out 😆
Todd that one of the reasons I quit using SPI piston kits, I went to pro-x piston kits much better product and so far in 15 years I've had no issues with them.. maybe in your problem they may have been boxed wrong when you ordered them ?
@@larrywarner9314 that's what I'm guessing. I went with what I could get NOW 😁.
Ive had good luck with spi but its been years since i rebuilt any sled
Clearly that piston and ring set was packaged at 4:58 on Friday afternoon.
@@TheDillio187 😆😆😆
Just letting you know my experience with SPI i don't buy there products anymore seems like nothing was right.
@@kevinandres5053 this is not good for them
A 2 holer!!
@@kirkc5823 😁
I used to have one just like that one but the whole frame was shifting because it was rusted out
But I loved that sled
@@QuinnLillo-gu6gf bummer
Yea it was a 1994 tho
I bet you they were returned at some point and they put the wrong rings in
@@bradr464 the rings are stamped with the correct stock bore size on them.
For the ring problem. I've seen people order a ring set. And the rings came in a separate box. But it was the wrong rings for that piston. I think that's what happened to you.
@@tomchalette1509 possibly but all three are wrong. I ordered a couple top end piston kit
@@toddclyne3493 you never know. With these days. Lol
Did you check rings on pistons themselves. Like just to check depth into piston ring lands and thickness of ring to ring land just for lil more data. If that checks out then the ring set is prolly just a .030 over set rings witch well not right.
@@acurarl9929 yepper
1st
@@TomSelleck777 🥰
That's the end result of people hauling sleds, quads, sxs's on an open trailer in the salt. But I'm sure you guys already know that. I cringe every time I see it.
@@chrisbetter9806 you are 💯 spot on
Todd is there a way to put a triple on that instead of the twin.
@@Eric-nj4qf 😆😆🥰