Assassins Creed: Odyssey Retrospective Review | Too Much of A Good Thing
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- Assassins Creed: Odyssey | Too Much of A Good Thing
Intro - 0:00
Presentation - 1:15
Story - 7:58
Gameplay - 18:05
DLC - 28:16
Conclusion - 33:41
Outro - 34:37
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Wow, despite its issues it is quite incredible that games of this scale even exist!
I was never under leveled, because I'm one those people who does all the side quests and later remembers "hey isn't there a main quest also". 😄
Just started my first play thru a few weeks ago. The map is huge and there is sooooo much to do. My favorite AC so far.
Odyssey had the best open world I've ever played in any game. Was a magical experience. A hugely underrated AC game that everyone needs to see.
Best open world, bullshit. Sounds like you need to play red dead 2. U don’t even know what an ac game is.
Origins was better
Play The Witcher 3 ;) AC Odyssey my second place for sure tho ❤
Try Red Dead Redemption 2. It will blow you away.
@@KingFuegoplayed both, ac odyssey was a far more interactive, bigger and beautiful world. As a Greek rpg, it absolutely shits on anything close to it.
Odyssey is a great game in itself and would have much more praise if it had no "Assassin's Creed" tagged on it. I enjoyed it as a game itself and will always be one of my top ten. I remember there is also a feature that tours you through Greece and other spots and that was quite nice.
Facts if it never had that assassins creed tag it would’ve sold more
I would say it only sold well because of its tag. Even though I wish this wasnt called assasins creed, naming it that made it easier for them to make money
I tried playing AC Valhalla. Went right back to Odyssey after a couple days
First video of yours I have seen. Currently playing this for the first time about to start Atlantis. Great review/retrospective man lots of good points. Earned a sub
Nice review, mate! Your earned my like and my sub. Keep up a good work! 🍻
Assassin's Creed: Stone Age -- "We went back.. to the beginning!!!"
It is not just a game, but using a game to lure you into actually enjoying history, giving you just a bite, so enriching that, older assassin's games barely scratched the surface with tha lost potential, but limited resources; as well as the blending of old legends, myths, tales with the modern fiction take on them. The sheer amount of connections to the real cradle is just outstanding and much praise to the historians/programmers for digging and including so much. If you are there for pure gaming it is understanble on the limited variety after the 30hours mark, I went back to it to do Alexios (after Kassandra +150hrs, the better of the 2), dude he speaks on occasion with a russian accent😂, Kassandra is oscar perfect and still haven't had enough of it. It could be an endless "library" just by unveiling a single location or npc name, the real life lessons and references are just brilliant. If you have read some of the real life stories, you ge the hilarious takes on them, the liberty and the jokes. origins/odyssey/valhalla are masterpieces for those that need a little more culture but still having fun.
This game is really good. A great RPG and a solid AC game. It's definitely not the best like Origins is but it is a great game set so far in the past predating the Hidden Ones. Great combat, solid story, great protagonist, as well as great lore and RPG mechanics. 8/10 game for me.
The open battles between the Athenians and Spartans was so awesome. I wish there was more of that in Valhalla.
One single street of paris was more crowded than whole athen
And most people in palying Unity move on rooftops to avoid them
@@sleepydoctor4344 thats not the reason
A game I really enjoy is never long enough. Take AC Mirage, for instance. That game is way too short. In my opinion, if the game is awesome, the longer it takes to finish, the better! : )
Great video! I just FINALLY beat the game today by beating the 2nd DLC. It was a great game in my opinion (which might not be much of an opinion since this was my first AC game lol), and I’m hoping that when I play the other games they’ll meet my enjoyment of this one
The level up music was definitely catchy but did you find after playing so long the menu music gets really annoying? I got so sick of it haha
The game actually begins after 20 hours.
This game was and is basically if you remove anything to do with assassins creed then it really is a good rpg game
My favourite in the series.
I finally started playing this game last year. I really took my time but after 176 hours I finally beat the whole game and all its DLC. I loved it but I doubt I will ever replay it again.
I'm considering starting another playthrough cause I've never done the dlc but the thought of doing the whole base game again overwhelming lol. My old save is on an old ps4 I sold and am on ps5 now
I would really recommend turning off most of the HUD; it looks so much better (especially without those ugly numbers). I just leave on health bounty and a few bits that are helpful
I just finish playing odessey and it took me around 265 hours play
I did every mission.
When I first started I didn't want to buy any DLC but I really love the story and bought all them at the end.
I never felt under level when I got j got to atlantisDLC the mpc where giving me a fight but I enjoy the challenge
First blade DLC's love it as well
Now I started assasin creed Vahalla.
Odessey is one of my best games I played and got me hook on the next one
ODYSSEY best game eveeer made...
*i played this game in 2019 and while i didn't finish it, i had a BLAST just hunting down the phylakes in the world and literally spent 100 hours JUST DOING THAT and customizing my Kassandra. ill probably play through it again sometime soon just to see how its improved and finish the story....but i can honestly say its the best open world RPG ive ever played....Yeah, even better than Skyrim.*
Yeah, it is arguably as good or better than Skyrim which is honestly really high praise. A lot of fans of the series really disliked this game because of the direction they took but from purely an RPG open world perspective with fantasy/mythology lightly sprinkled in, it's honestly a really damn good game. I've often wondered if the game would have benefited more by not being called Assassins Creed but for an RPG, it pretty much is one of the best. It felt like a better polished Witcher game with a better setting (at least in my opinion) and I think the Witcher 3 is probably the best game to compare it with.
I also got distracted with hundreds of hours of side quests and exploration that I never ended up finishing the story but I started playing it again recently and focusing more on the story. So far, it's the only AC game that I will probably play every few years, as I have with Skyrim.
I started playing this game a week ago I’m loving this game so much
Great Video!
Subbed. Great video
Thank you!
Im currently playing origins, the 3 RPG assisins creed games, origins, odyssey and Valhalla where different, the graphics of the location and story where the breed and butter of these 3 games
2:20 On the pop-in thing - for what it’s worth, I’m not sure I’ve ever noticed close-up pop-in on PC with the settings cranked, so it may just be a limitation of the console’s specs. The only pop-in that’s noticeable is on terrain that is VERY distant. Like, “thousands of meters in-game” distant. It’s so far that I don’t notice it unless I stop the camera to look for it happening.
It’s definitely an impressive game - like you said, there are like…no bugs to speak of, which is crazy. I’ve only run into one pinpointable bug, and it looked basically the same as yours (50+ hours on my save).
[Specs I’m running the game on: Ryzen 9 5900X, RTX 3070ti, 32 gigs RAM, PCIe 4.0 SSD]
I remember first playing this after Valhalla I was like wow this is somewhat better then Valhalla my only complaint was how the combat could of been better other then that I had fun till this day I still be playing it
Thanks!
Funny how people say the game is too long. For me, it was the only game I ever finished and immediately restarted a second play though. Anyway, the complaint that a game is “amazing but too much” has always seemed a bit incoherent to me. It’s like complaining that about too much food in a buffet, or too many women in a massage parlor. Just pick what you like and enjoy.
Yeah...played ODYSSEY 3000 hours...finish 6 times
@@zicuvalentin2251 Nice. 3~4 playthrough for me, not sure the total hours. Just picked it back up recently after getting bored with RDR2. What a comparison! Both open world games, but one is fast, smooth and fluid, the other slow, clunky and dull.
@@sonofwotan ok but RDR 2 is more for exploring...while ODYSSEY is action game i like both games but ODYSSEY is number one for me and after ORIGINS and after BATMAN ARCKAM KNIGHT and then RDR 2
@@zicuvalentin2251 Good list, man. That’s the thing about these open world games; there are a lot of them and we can pick the ones we like.
@@sonofwotan yes...and we want good games at least 200 hours and fun with 3rd person(don't like first person games for example AVATAR)...
5:31 😂😂😂 I’ve listened to that too many times
Once you get through Valhalla and Mirage (I assume almost two years later), will you rank the series?
Though, the next main game or two may release within two years after Mirage.
yeah i [;an on doing a video ranking the series when i (eventually) catch up lol
That conquest feature has a lot of potential.. imagine if the game can be fully modded, the combat system is already a good foundation to add some features like army formation with phalanx stance, they also created a gorgeous ancient Greece, perfect setting for a 3rd person total war.. if only their cash shop has one of these feature or add it as a DLC then I would gladly buy it.. but no they're treating it like a mobile pay2win crap with those bs on their store.. That's why making a game moddable can help in a game's replayability and life span, the community can make great stuff that is created with passion to add more content to a game for free.. which is sad because most modern games is designed by implementing nonsense such as cash shops and battlepass, even a simple accessory that is barely noticeable will cost you.. 💀
Sorry for the long ass bad grammar essay.. just stating my take on modern gaming and their wasted potential.. I'm sure not everyone will agree for a moddable game since a good game doesn't need mods to be great, I just remembered the good old days of warcraft 3 and all those mods.. fun times.. anyway, great video.. also you're channel is underrated.. keep grinding sir I'm sure you'll blow up :).
Honestly, I didn't mind the length too much. But that's because I just had an absolute blast playing the game and time flew by. I definitely think there were some pacing issues and I felt the world a little too big for its own good, but I enjoyed most of what the game had to offer. Though I agree the endings feel lacking. But overall, I really enjoyed the game as well. I'm not sure where I'd rank it, though. I find my earlier games in the franchise are near the top, like AC3 or Unity, but when I dived into the franchise in 2020 (played all the games except Valhalla in that year), this was one of the later games. And I think the fact it was so long, while it didn't bother me, definitely affected what I thought about the game and its content. It was way too big to just sit down for a single minute and decide an arbitrary place to rank it.
Honestly, Valhalla was the only one that I found quite boring. I didn't enjoy the main story too much, which made it worse because the game is even longer than Odyssey is, the characters were largely uninteresting, and the gameplay loop is probably the most boring and repetitive in the series. In virtually every region in the gamd you essentially play the same mini-story tgat barely contributes to the main story if at all, but you're still forced to complete it all. I did enjoy quite a bit of the side content, though, so I often found myself roaming around new regions getting viewpoints and completing the most interesting side content saving everything else for after the story. I still completed the main story relatively fast, but I was mixing school and gametime while playing it. And then after the main story, there were tbe DLCs, which I played through mostly last year (but very spread out) and a little bit this year. And they just felt like more of the same. Though I did once again enjoy anything that dived into the mythology of the time. My favorite parts of Origins and Odyssey were their exploration of mythology, especially in the afterlives for Origins and the other mythical locations in Odyssey. And Valhalla has its fair share of that stuff, too. And it's actually quite a bit of the game. Which definitely made my experience more fun.
They also added some other free missions over time, like the second half of the crossover, or finally allowing for Eivor's storyline to complete (because they didn't do that in the main story or DLCs for some reason?). And there was also a mission to set up Mirage, and it's... Okay, I guess. Speaking of Mirage, Basim is really the only interesting character in Valhalla. Which is good, because we'll be getting a lot more of him in Mirage.
I've made sure to keep spoilers at a minimum, and I don't want to lower your expectations of the game, but while I still enjoyed Valhalla (and liked its combat system more than the other RPG games), it's definitely in my lower half of AC games. Not my least favorite, because that would be Rogue (and Liberation if we count side games), but still pretty low.
I've heard mixed things about Valhalla, but I also heard mixed things about Odyssey so hopefully I'll enjoy Valhalla as well
@@PioneerBread Only time will tell. But on a side note, I just want to say that your AC reviews are probably some of my favorites.
@@DarthTingleBinks Thank you!
@PioneerBread only AC game I've given up on I played Valhalla for 20 hours or so got bored and have no desire to play it again it reminded me of horizon zero dawn another game im not a fan of
@@PioneerBreadIf you haven't played Valhalla yet, the only thing that kept me playing the game and I'm still trying to complete it, but Eivor (Male) has been one of my favorite characters in the franchise. He steals the show for me especially when paired with Basim.
No link to the dev blogs?
I currently have 170hrs played on Odyssey its an amazing game i beat Origins twice and loved it but valhalla kimda sucked i only cared about that game enough to beat it lol
Took me over 500 hours and two years just fully 100% complete the game lol 😅
GODDAMN
@@PioneerBread I just started my journey on Ac Valhalla
@@bobcult valhalla is not good at all in everyway.. Odyssey is far far far good.. just try it
@@AlvianMardhiSetya im playing it away
I immediately liked your review, since you understood that gameplay comes before many things, therefore taking out fall damage is ok. Most reviewers are like "omg, AC franchisew ruined"
Taking out fall damage removes the inherent danger to one of the core aspects of the AC franchise - parkour.
You're welcome to enjoy the game, but it sucks as an Assassins Creed entry.
good video is it ok if I ask you a question?
yes?
I've finished the main story twice now and I'm constantly launching it just fight nation battles. Just a blast.. The only times I've been annoyed with this game was the Fate of Atlantis DLC. Outside of time spent in Hades it's sort of a bore in my opinion.
I tried to play this on nightmare difficulty and everyone just becomes a bullet sponge. I hit people 100+ times and it's like I'm tickling them. Normal mode is what it was meant to be experienced on.
Nah,you just using legendary gear.... Purple Is the one you want to eq,also try Leonidas sword. +250% warrior dmg.
Btw, there are more than 9 mercenary tiers.
Took 120 hours to finish everything. Satisfied though.
I felt the same way about Layla Hasan; she is not written very well, and I really disliked her in this game. Valhalla made her a bit better, but not by much. In Odyssey, I really did not enjoy the modern day segments because of her. Also, the Crossover DLC; Odyssey got the better story, in my opinion. The conclusion in Valhalla was underwhelming to me. It had Eivor meet up with Kassandra, but overall, it was a lot of little fetch-quests, and not much character building. They meet, have an antagonistic relationship for most of the DLC, then become more friendly in the end, but then they just part ways with nothing much to show for it. At least the Odyssey half gives a reason for Alexios/Kassandra to travel the world and destroy Isu devices that they find.
i disliked bow change at launch day, have grown to hate it even more at the present day. its fine as a jack of all trades but each trade is half baked and i still stand by the opinino that keeping origins bow system would have been better as each bow was refined to a particular purpose and didn't have to fill in for another type on top of tis own.
Turn the HUD off and explore
How dont u have more subs?
It is probaly not my fave ac game but it is def up there with black flag and ac 2
I really liked this review. But sadly didnt like the game itself. Felt luke half of my playtime was watching people the most boring conversations, managing my gear otherwise im stuck fighting the enemies for good couple of minutes and going through 50 pages of quests. Valhalla truly improved on those aspects
Ever since the change to origins these games are amazing! Massive open world and great story.
Wait what?! Have you not played AC2, Britherhood, Black flag, Unity?
You think the open-world change helped the franchise?! What the actual fuck.
@@Pingwinho open-world does not hurt AC. AC has been trying to go open-world since the beginning, with progressively bigger and bigger maps. The important thig is to have great cities in addition to that, which offer fun gameplay.
imo, the best cities in the newer games are Memphis, Athens, and Jorvik (haven't played Mirage yet)
@@FelixFelinis Mate, read the context. The OP to whom I was replying clearly meant open-word changes as it is usually defined with regards to AC - from Origins onwards.
Massiveness did not help AC at all - Origins was at the very limit (for me), Odyssey got way too bloated and even most reviewers and hardcore fans weren't able to 100% and platinum Valhalla.
I don't like odyssey very much because i think most of it's systems are pretty shallow after you play for enough time. It's a good game but i still prefer origins by a lot.
Too much of a good thing? I definitely don't understand that. It's like paying for a Camero but you get the corvette for the same price. I'm always annoyed when it ends and wish I could keep playing. I'm thankful they are so long. I just started Valhalla and I hear the exact same thing. Anyway love the games. Every minute
Imagine this was not an Assasians creed game....how much would've people loved it? Major part of hate comes from some Ac based youtubers who milk Ezio because most of their followers are ezio fanboys...
If I buy a burger should I be happy to have received a salad? Even if it's a great salad?
This game has nothing that made Assassins Creed - Assassins Creed.
Parkour is castrated and the danger (fall damage) is removed.
There is no hidden blade.
There is no added punishment for killing civilians.
There are no assassination missions.
There is no templar/brotherhood conflict.
No social stealth.
Odyssey defenitely far far better than VALHALLA Sh**t..
I alreasy bored with vallhalla in every way. But in Odyssey, i dont know i never bored.. even i bored i came back again in few time & i enjoy again..
Odyssey isn't as good as Origins. The world is incredible but it's got too much of the same thing and busy work to get through. The story is ok...but it's very slow and seems to fracture half way through. To the point where the main plot seems non-important.
I kinda liked odyssey cause I love Greece and I partially live there but the rpg and grinding of that game is so awful
Odyssey is like 100 million times better than Valhalla I HATED THAT GAME ! !
Me too !
Odyssey far far farrrr better than valhalla sh***
wait what retcon ? ac origin is the origin of the hidden ones,the precursor to the brotherhood,why is ac odyssey being before that a problem?the bloodline exists before the official assassins as an organized group
I don’t think you know what procedural generation means. It means it’s randomly generated based on an algorithm like the landscapes of Minecraft. Having AI generate your cutscenes for you with guidance isn’t procedural generation. It doesn’t randomly generate cutscenes willy nilly
The GDC talk given by Odyssey developers that I reference in the video is titled "Procedural Generation of Cinematic Dialogues in Assassin's Creed Odyssey". Heres the link: ua-cam.com/video/DFM5zbekZ7c/v-deo.html
Just to add cause you clearly didn't know that: all the voice actors, apart from the modern day ones, are either Greek or of Greek decent that do speak the language fluently, so the accent you hear, is a Greek accent, they're not trying, they are not native English speakers.
About the levels, if you don't do side quests and contracts of course you are going to be underleveled, every city has a message board, on those boards are contracts, you pick them up and you are going to do them as you play, they are stuff like kill 10 athenian archers all across greece, sink 5 pirates ships and stuff like that. If you stack contracts, you can sometimes even skip a level cause you'll level up so fast.
I disagree with Odyssey being too long and a chore, if you truly like the game you want more of it not less. I have 8k in this game and still play it almost everyday.
Agree...ODYSSEY BEST GAME EVEEER MADE..😂😂😂...played 3000h...you play more than me...are you sleeping with ODYSSEY broo
🤓☝️
People always praise the visuals on these RPG AC's. I think they look muddy compared to Unity or Syndicate
You’d be wrong lol
@@bloodarcher7841 in what regard. The graphics are muddy and lower res than both older games...
Played ODYSSEY 3000 hours...valhalla sooooo boooooring....
Ok
too much of a bad thing lol
Odyssey (Too much) / Mirage (Not enough)
Yall need to decide what you want or be quiet fr.
Kassandra>Alexios
ALEXIOS is now canon
Nah Kassandra is better
@@MistahJay7yeah a better villain not protagonist
@@exceppi1477 Kassandra is awful as the villain lol Alexios voice is perfect for the role.
@@MistahJay7 I don’t like nerd talk but alexios sound like a spoilt man child and Kassandra actual sounds they have trauma and stuff and I think alexios is a better hero rather than Kassandra who just takes everything as a joke
Odyssey is not a 9/10 it isn’t even an ac game, parkour is shit, the lore is Shat on and assassins and Templars are absent. And even then it’s just a generic basic rpg that doesn’t differentiate itself from any other game in its genre. Like seriously, theirs nothing special about this game, I will never understand the overrated love for this Witcher wannabe Ubisoft slush.
Sounds like your mad for no reason. You probably haven't even played Odyssey, so keep your discouraging comment to yourself
@@jedimindtricks5880 I have played it, and I barely got through 40 hrs of that shit. You probably haven’t even been played nor liked the early games. I have extremely valid reasons why odyssey is subpar. Face it bro, what you played was nothing but generic trend following crap that doesn’t separate itself from other better rpgs.
Odyssey is better than Rogue and III. The game doesn't shat on the lore like you speak. The game thoroughly adds to the lore of the Isu and the Assassins vs Templars conflict is very much in the game. Even if Alexios wasn't in the Brotherhood or apart of the Hidden Ones, he did exactly what they did to a Templar Order, actually 2 precursor orders. He isn't the most trained assassin or even apart of the Creed, but you can't expect much from a man that lived centuries before the Creed came into existence. The game has a lot of things that aren't perfect, but so do most of the older games. Also, it's funny that people will call any game that came after the Witcher a clone. Like, get over it. Odyssey is a solid 8/10 game alone.
This is why nobody likes interacting with you
@@ac_nerd9794 I’m not even gonna try to argue against your dumass comment.
I loved this game. An open world Ancient Greece and our own ship free to sail wherever we want to and the whole of Greece. This is a dream game come true. I loved it! 🥷 ❤