Assassin's Creed Odyssey Broke Me
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- I've criticised Odyssey since day 1. There were so many reasons for this and they've been spread throughout podcasts, livestreams, video rants and reviews but I've never bothered to make a video with all my thoughts, all my issues, all my passion in one single place... So here it is, my final video on Assassin's Creed Odyssey.
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00:00 PRE-INTRO
00:23 INTRO
4:19 - CHARACTER
8:19 - DIALOGUE
12:14 - CHOICE
15:56 - LEVELLING
20:44 - WORLD
28:48 - SIDE QUESTS
31:22 - MINOR ISSUES
32:17 - CULTIST SYSTEM
33:24 - DLC
33:40 - LEGACY OF THE FIRST BLADE
35:44 - THE FATE OF ATLANTIS
42:44 - CONCLUSION
43:29 - My Final Words...
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Timestamps:
00:00 PRE-INTRO
00:23 INTRO
4:19 - CHARACTER
8:19 - DIALOGUE
12:14 - CHOICE
15:56 - LEVELLING
20:44 - WORLD
28:48 - SIDE QUESTS
31:22 - MINOR ISSUES
32:17 - CULTIST SYSTEM
33:24 - DLC
33:40 - LEGACY OF THE FIRST BLADE
35:44 - THE FATE OF ATLANTIS
42:44 - CONCLUSION
43:29 - My Final Words...
The real next Assassin's Creed game is called "Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey". Ubisoft has fired developers, Desilets and those who have made great ac and now they work on Panache
This video is worded perfectly the ending touched my soul a bit i hope someone important at ubisoft sees this
ODYSSEY SHOULDN'T BE CANON
I cried at the end, ur right about assassins creed, the last real assassins creed game was unity
LazerzZ it really did do Bayek dirty😢
"The fire doesn't look as good as it did in Origins..."
And as minor a point as it is, you can't even burn away the spiderwebs in the tombs, which was strangely satisfying in Origins.
So I tried it and they do burn away, just not like in Origins. You just need to attack them once or twice with a torch , whereas in origins they burned just by walking through them.
IKR!!
LMAO yesss
The Tomb Raiding in Odyssey was the same shit everytime. In Origins every tomb felt different and interesting.
@@johnh5646 I felt like the tomb raiding in Origins was kind of meh as well. It really didn’t feel that much different either.
For some reason when you were comparing Odyssey and Brotherhood I forgot they were a part of the same series
Same
It's sad that even AC1 has more interaction with the world! God Odyssey was terrible!
@@thegamingpesant2880 it be like that sometimes
This is an unscripted video AC1 was ahead of its time for when it was released. That game is still gold imo
The Cats' Pjs same
remember kids, Kassandra was always there somewhere, alive, during every single assassin's creed game you've ever played
An absolutely harrowing thought
shit pisses me off every time I think about it
@@ctchulk you're probably too emotionally attached.
@@ctchulk Cry about it 😂
@@TheIrland09 okay?
You know something has gone terribly wrong when you have "time savers" in offline games
When you buy gear as well
literally almost every ac game has them?
@@bujaa10 no they don't
@@sozzem8869 unity,syndicate,origins etc they don't have to be named "time savers" to acc be time savers lol
@@sozzem8869 yeah from black flag to mirage they have them so your just dumb or arrogant thinking you know more than die hard fans bro
To quote Kassandra "I'm not an assassin."
*by a decision
Which is why the game shouldn't even exist :)
The best part of that line for me is that the word assassin didn’t even exist yet lol
That moment is when this game died as an AC game.
".....not anymore" -Desmond Miles
Someone in the comments described this game perfectly
A game as large as an ocean
But as deep as a puddle.
Preach
But you forgot how that same puddle was stepped on, shit on and recycled only to be buttfcuked by the nearest hermaphroditic homeless man.
@@christianpiamonte2159
Nah
At least it's a good looking puddle lol
Salim Sadoune now imagine having intercourses with the most prettiest girl and finding out she was a man. That is the puddle.
Salim Sadoune better yet she has hiv, that is the puddle. No matter how good it looks, your always gonna get HIV aladeen.
I remember getting annoyed while playing this because it felt like 70% of my time was being spent chasing down map markers.
@@averystevenson7155 sure you could automatically set up the route like your horse is a Tesla, but either way you have to sit there and wait until you get there
I get annoyed at the fact I have to grind so fucking hard just to beat the game.
@@x91s55 not exactly I just beat the main game and im at level 28 and only fully explored kepholonia, megaris, phokis and complete a few markers here and there in the other main regions without any xp boost really all you gotta do is kill mercenaries, hunt the cult and fight a few of the legendary animals and your good.
@@andrewcuster2975 damnn bruh. Im at level 40 something I can't come back to get the last piece for lost city of Atlantis ending.
@@x91s55 my bad something I said seemed off, so I watched a video of the diemos final battle, i was mostly likely level 38 lmao. off by 1 digit. Its been kind of a blur because im playing odyssey and origins at the same time. I like both for what they are, though just being honest im not even interested in getting valhalla once I finish these 2, if you've played it, is it worth buying or should I wait for a price drop
I've always hated when people say "the microtransactions are optional", because the balance is always slightly off to encourage users to buy them.
Exactly! It’s not something people usually think about though so I do get why they say that, they genuinely don’t understand that a game has to be skewed to push MTX.
The worst part about microtransactions is that there'll always be an army of shit for brains that think it's a good thing. But the best it can ever be is forgivable, and only if it doesn't hurt regular gameplay AND is necessary to keep a team funded.
I ignore them all like for real only time I bought something from them was a pack as a joke (and I never use the items I only bought the pack for the horse skin that's ot
It irritates me when people defend microtransactions with that bull, because it often means the game is unbalanced or designed in a way to make people buy that bs, so gameplay is made worse than it has to be.
I'll amend it for you, "The microtransactions are optional, unless you have no control over your impulses and emotions and absolutely, positively MUST be the most optimal character in the game... at which point, looking yourself in the mirror and wondering why you're taking a trivial amusement so seriously is probably warranted. Will anything in your life change if you beat the game without being optimal? Do you have any other hobbies or interests that involve ACTUAL accomplishments that would satisfy your desire for competency, besides a goofy video game?"
That help?
The decent side mission you mentioned is actually the mission that they gave reviewers to play pre-game release. The only reason that much effort was put is so they could get a good initial thought from reviewers.
I have just recently finished the game,been trying to finish it for over a year, but anytime i returned to it i did few side quests just to grind for req. level for main quests and gave up coz i got bored of that grind but from all that shitty grind that was necessary to even complete the main story, this is the only side quest I vaguely remember, still feels emptier than random side interaction in Witcher 3
That reminds me so much on how in Skyrim the regions around Riverwood had more detail than the rest of the game--right down to ants on tree trunks--because of it being one of the first places Bethesda showed off and it being the areas you'll likely visit in the first couple of hours. In fact I believe it was one of the first regions the devs finished.
@@thingolox9698 I did finish all side missions and completed all spots in the map. I did not enjoy it, it is pure grind and the spots are very copy&paste, but I did it on principle so I can leave the whole game behind me with the feeling that I have finished the game (DLC missing but f this).
My conclusion: It took me over 200 hours to finish the game 100%.
*Two*
*hundred*
Bro I feel like I had more fun in my *48 hours* AC Brotherhood gameplay
Don't do it. It is not worth it.
Complete the main story, fight all ancient creatures and all beasts, that's enough!
VlaunBurtlecraft You did not use Skyrim’s shitty world as a comparison lmao. Skyrim’s stories WERE FAR WORSE than even this shitty game.
@@waiskuxx skyrim is a masterpiece no denying that.
If ubi played their cards right bayek could have been their new ezio
Yes
Yeah but I kind of like the idea of seeing new locations. Origins is long enough to be 3 games anyway
Nah, bakock's boring
@@kittydearrosari who
@@kittydearrosari who?
It always felt weird to me that you were a demigod and yet it takes forever for you to kill anybody. I mean Arno can just slit someone's throat with a small wrist blade and fuck off in the crowd while Kassandra is slashing endlessly at one dude with God weapons and they still don't die.
Facts
arno is the god tier assassin
Learn how to make builds
Man the pig boss fight where I gave up on this pigsh*t of a game
@@playhard719pig boss fight?😂😂😂u talkin bout the legendary boar?
The bit about how they fucked up the date of the construction of the Pyramids by thousands of years made me want to cry. I remember as clear as yesterday all the care that was put into the history explanation bits in AC1 and AC2 to be as historically accurate as possible while still fitting the fictional narrative in them.
AC1 i think is still the best exaple of doing "Alternative history" right. Just the great balance between historically accurate things and alternative history while weaving even the very concept of "Nothing is true" into the story through dialogues of both Desmond and Altair.
Like fuck, man, it pains me so much to know that there's some alternative timeline in which AC didn't turned into bullshit like Odyssey/Valhalla.
Diversity hires ruined it all
@@seeinredit's great cause they even have a great excuse to not alter the events of history as we know them. Just changing the context behind it
Made you want to cry? Really?
Surely you cried when you saw a giant gothic church in Acre in ac1 as well
Something that still confuses me to this day:
Why is someone guardsmen in Athens putting a bounty on me for killing a soldier in Sparta and how did he find out so fucking fast?
stupid, they have cellphones
@@yousufrazwan9583 lol, I just hope you're joking.
@@nikeshadow1728 ofc he's joking, is your iq lower than 5?
@@dominicrkent That would be fish.
Even the Phylakitai in Origins only reacts to the beacon after the local soldiers saw me kill his friends.
Bayek is in AC Odyssey , he's a crew member on my ship.
Must've killed Doc Brown and Marty and took the DeLorean back 300 years lol. I don't use her, she's a bad character in my opinion anyways, but I have the option to use Evie as well.
@@Shadowfire204 I killed Rick and jumped into another dimension called micro currency store.
Bayek on the game
@@Parables_of_Prosperity You sell lawn accessories my dude?
@@blacktigerpaw1 I'm not hank hill, I'm black batman
Assassin's Creed was special because its biggest spectacle was found in the mundane for those who cared to Look & Listen.
There was action and epic moments but there were also moments of serenity, walking the Roman countryside under the moonlight or stopping to watch an artist sculpt marble in Venice.
Now it's just an action rpg with mythical creatures, spectacle and not much else in the way of those wonderous little details found in the moments where you'd stop to breathe.
Exactly. Don’t get me wrong I get the appeal of an action RPG with lots of loot and content totally but man, it’s just so basic and generic. Especially in comparison to the cool shit it used to be. There are more than enough games like the ac RPG’s out there but there’s really nothing like the older games. Assassins creed was cool BECAUSE it was so different and niche
its basically a hack and slash game
Man you can do exactly that in Odyssey.
Bro you can do all that in Odyssey, I love ancient Greece and mythology so I have visited every single temple and ruin like if I were a tourist
On the emptiness of the world here, in AC Origins I was so compelled and immersed in the world, I sometimes found myself just walking to destinations. I spent the time once to walk through a desert. I saw ghostly visions, defended myself against some bandits, experienced a sandstorm.
Odyssey I couldn’t even stand to play very long, it felt so lifeless and so stale, with none of the same care put into Origins.
Same with Red Dead Redemption 2. Sometimes, in that game, I’ll get off my horse and just walk it forward for awhile. Or trek up into the mountains, set up camp, hunt, cook, eat, fish, get tracked down by bounty hunters or sometimes ambushed by a pack of wolves, and spend a lot of time doing this. Just existing in the game world.
Odyssey, even Valhalla, failed to compel me to do any of that. To the point it feels almost impossible to do so.
Im.with you on that origins is the best in the trilogy is.not even close how much of a downgrade the sequels were
"get tracked down by bounty hunters or sometimes ambushed by a pack of wolves, " That literally happens in Odyssey lmao.
@@tsdobbi Yeah, that’s true, but those two events alone aren’t what I mean entirely when I talk about a world that feels alive
I haven't played Origins yet, only Odyssey and Valhalla. And I love both of those, though Odyssey a bit more, even though Valhalla had a bunch of things Odyssey didn't have that I quite liked. Objectively speaking I think Valhalla is better (more variety in things to do) but the world of Odyssey really pulled me in, it's and unforgettable experience to me. Valhalla I played about a year ago, didn't quite finish the story and honestly, I've forgotten almost everything about it. But if what you say is true I guess I'll have to check Origins out, cuz I do like the style of the new AC games.
I think you nailed it here, compelling, that's it, that's the problem with this game, the characters and world isn't compelling unlike RDR2 and Witcher 3, both have compelling characters and worlds.
Ubisoft: *Smoking tons and tons of weed* what if we made an Assassin's Creed game, with no Assassin's in it
Make that man the C.E.O!
You have to take the fans justifications for that dude; they're like it's still in the same universe and shows the birth of templars, like ok fanboy Order of the Ancients wasn't enough for you.
*me smoking tons of weed to get through its story*
@@YahNation I'm afraid I've have to ask you for a little of that to play Odyssey - and I don't even like the stuff.
The reason for this game is to progress the real world story
Kasandra in the gucci suit in the cave, that had me in tears.
I played through the game as Alexios, watching the kassandra gameplay made me laugh my ass off. It looks so much worse, but they just HAD to be gender neutral...
@@TheGhostLegend001 Idk what the fuck you're on about, but playing as Kassandra was leagues better than Alexios. Probably because the VA was much better and conveyed emotions better.
@@TheGhostLegend001 oh no. How dare ubisoft make you play as a female. Oh wait, it was optional. Too bad there aren't a million other great games where you have to play as a male. ✌
@@happyloser6981 You seem to have missed the point. The problem is not that the is a female protagonist, but that her dialogue thus her "character" is a combination of Alexios'.
She can't be herself because of the possibility of choosing Alexios and the degree of freedom in dialogue choices.
Happy Loser look dude, men and women are different creatures. We’re more alike than different for sure, but our differences compliment one another make life easier for one another. I have no problem with female characters, but if you’re going to do a female character in a game inspired by historical events, at least show history as it was. Kassandra wouldn’t be able to do half the shit she does if this game was more historically accurate. Ancient Greece, much like the rest of the world, was a highly patriarchal and misogynistic place. So it’s not that they allowed a female option, it’s that they allowed a female option while pretending like nothing would be different from alexios.
I came back to watch this video after the recent AC Showcase just to remind myself of how badly Ubisoft has burned me in the past. It certainly helped prevent me from being sucked in by their promises.
you and me both brother.
😢just started playing it and I can’t see it being an actual Ubisoft assassins creed gane
so I'm not the only one
@@juniorpayano4703 cry more
I gave up on Ubisoft after odyssey. Whatever excitement I had for future Ubisoft games was murdered by this soulless piece of garbage.
unity's npc population was just insane. That game's world was brilliant, and provides quite the contrast for a more modern AC. Shows just how good some of those older titles were
That whole game was insane for it's time
AC Odyssey: *exists*
AC Fanbase: Look how they massacred my boy
*Real AC Fans
Spencer Ricker Ah yes because you’re only a real fan if you hate everything after AC 3 or 4 amirite? Fuck right off. I love Odyssey and Origins. Everyone else whining about their precious lore are missing out on a great game. I love and play the hell out of both games, so you can be an AC snob or you can enjoy the games individually and not lose your shit over boring lore stuff that hasn’t even mattered or made sense or been the least bit interesting since AC3 anyway.
@@wickedbadass4032 Somebody's butthurt
@@Ben10man2 Hahahahahah! Understatement
@@wickedbadass4032 AC Origins is decent as well, but Odyssey is just an uncreative mess
speaking of characters that feel real, i had a great conversation with an npc in this game. it went something like this:
Npc: mysthios i need your help, i am a doctor and one of my patients has not received his medicine because it was stolen by bandits, now he is delirous and roaming the streets infecting other people.
Me: Ah so you want me to get the medicine back?
Npc: No i want you to kill him.
LMAO i thought he was talking about killing the pacient
Hebert Sabino he was, the doctor wants you to kill the patient.
@@hebert0 yeah that actually was the mission :) i had to kill the sick guy
@@oerwout10 WHAT THE HEL LMFAO
Hebert Sabino no he is
what's funny to me, is that the og social stealth forced you to stop, you HAD to take a look at the world, same with parkour, look for running paths, look for crowds, LOOK around
"Look here, LOOK LISTEN"
Wheres the funny in that?
even origins and odyssey look pretty similar at first glance but its the small things like the npcs having conversations, calling out to you as you pass like they are trying to wrangle a customer or sitting down to do some work at a stall, even those convoys of supplies and money that barge through clearing people out as they go, things that might seem minute on first glance really make something feel more real
all of that happens in odyssey
@@hersh2 not nearly as often though
Unity: You could not live with your failure, Where did that bring you? Back to me.
100% true 😂😂
😂 so true
True for players, unfortunately not for ubi, *maybe next game*
rafsan pantho
Yeah but not origins
Absolutely not. Came back to the Ezio trilogy instead and always will.
"You can slaughter an entire village" "
Stay your blade from the flesh of the innocent" Assassin's Creed 2018 everybody
MGS Oficial rules weren’t established yet in the timeline
@@thomasfocht363 Yeah, thats why this game has no reason to exist.
Bruh i just read this in Shay Patric Cormac's accent for some reason.....
Assassin's Creed Rogue Anybody?
You play as a mercenary with no rules.
MGS Oficial the CREED DID NOT EXIST IN ANCIENT GREECE THATS YOU CAN KILL CIVILIANS B/C THE CREED DID NOT EXIST UNTIL WAY LATER
And it sucks that Their game about Ancient Greece was handled so poorly. It’s such an interesting time period and they handled it so poorly
Odyssey takes a massive advantage of its setting. Idk if youre sarcastic or just havent played the game
@@Engille967 God help anyone who has played this shit. I feel bad for them
@@Engille967 I can't even take Odyssey seriously tf you mean ? You literally have to fight mystical creatures like Medusas and such. When in AC have you had to do such bullshit. Origins had it but that was a dream sequence for Bayek.
@@Taschip stop bluffing
@@leonecartelreborn9628 mythical creatures being pieces of eden is a much better reason to include them than a dream. Unrealistic things were always a thing in assassin's creed games. For example the leap of faith, the isu, pieces of eden. I bet you didnt complain then and you only notice bad things on the new games because of the type of stupidity under the name popular opinion.
You've nailed it.
Started the game recently, thought it was good. Then noticed i had to unlock everything in a region in order to do the main quests.
Then I noticed how long it took and got to the point where i struggled to remember what the main plot was because i was spending so long grinding between main missions.
So then i caved and bought the xp boost.... And it was good for a time.
Level 36 now and its a grind again. I even bought some armour from the store but i dont have enough resources to keep upgrading it and money is running out just doing the main quests.
EVERYTHING is designed to get you to buy stuff.
I have lost total interest in the game. I'll complete it because im a weapon and ive spent too much money on it now not too, but this game is a disaster.
omg, u really dont know how to play.
@@alexandruacatrinei1032 yeah thats it
This game will be okay if you didn't need to farm xp by doing shit quest and the same thing again and again to progress in the main story i don't even understand why people love this game it's a waste of time if i want to grind i'm going to play Lost Ark or WoW
This is not true at all you can rush the main story and still be at a good level because main story mission give so much xp or you dont have à good build overall
I absolutely don't get this, I was comfortably overlevelled for most of the game, reached level 50 before even coming to Sparta.
i dont even think about assassins creed when playing oddyssey. i feel like exploring ancient greece as a bad ass mercenary , killing anyone i want and as a bonus i am the chosen one
Baby Chan it’s hard to feel like a badass mercenary when every enemy is a bullet sponge and I have to fight them using clunky unsatisfying combat.
@@spook3112 the combat could be much better
@@thefreshvince879 You're playing ASSASSINS CREED Odyssey. If you don't play as an ASSASSIN in the game that is ABOUT ASSASSINS, you should play another game.
@@thefreshvince879 Chosen one? Another cheap move to make players feel a false sense of pride and accomplishment.
@@memecliparchives2254 False sense ?its a game looll skyrim and others are the same thing and with shittier combat mechanics
I remember thinking that Assassin's Creed would culminate into a game where you play as Desmond in the modern world and finally defeat and stop abstergo and the templars once and for all.
Now I wonder why they still bother with the animus and all that stuff since it's literally going no where. But Assassin's Creed has just turned into Ubisoft's Call of Duty, their FIFA. A game they will release every year, monetize and repeat the next year. It's very sad.
The next AC will be made my Ashraf Ismails team who did black flag and origins, and written by Darby McDevitt, so it should be good and well written again.
@@TheShicksinator that doesn't make what he said untrue
Phat Man it’s been two years... I win
its not yearly though
@@legotrillermoth that doesn't matter the point is it's just a cash grab
It actively pisses me off when people say it's a good rpg but a bad ac game, because I went into this game cautiously optimistic, not even an ac fan, and it's just a bad game, it's neither good at being assassins creed or a videogame It felt like an occasionally pretty semi-fun game that bored the shit out of me, but strung me along on enough dopamine to a point where I still played, and when the dopamine shots ended and the dragon stopped being chaseable the game just sucked, its like an addiction that just sucks and never gave a good high in the first place.
EXACTLY. This game is only being called good because of the dopamine stimulus it gives. It’s not fun to play because you’re getting a fun experience out of it, it’s for a lot of people fun to play because they just want to mark checkboxes of a checklist which feels fun to do
This is what a true AC fan that respects the core of the franchise is supposed to be like
Hate what they've done with the modern day. I remember being excited every time a new AC game would come out to figure out what will happen with Desmond next. After AC 3 it felt like the modern world has been ignored.
Agreed, I enjoyed modern-day sections, black flag was the next best thing and that wasn't too good
@Super JLK I just finished replaying AC4 yesterday and god damn that was such an awesome game. I never really cared for the present day apect of the games and I kinda liked how they did it in 4. They obviously couldn't just throw out the whole aspect of it but you can pretty much ignore most of it. Out of the 24 hours I played through the game probably around 20 minutes was taken up by the present day boredom
@Super JLK yeah I guess that would be fun. I personally didn't like it in the old games that much because I would be invested in the assassin's story and would be torn away from it for a story I didn't care for all that much. Maybe it was because I missed half of Desmond's story since AC1 and AC revelations were the only two main ac games I haven't played.
@@deanoneill3809 black flag is when modern setting went to shit. god i hated that abstergo game facility or whatever the fuck that was
This is a big bug bear for me. It used to be a fun game, slowly unveiling a bigger story in modern day. Now I barely touch on modern day. Do absolute minimum until I can go back in the animus.
I frankly enjoyed this game I just had to mentally disconnect this from the series and think more of it as a separate game
This is the same for me.
It sucks as an assassins creed but I have to admit that I had a good time
I think that's the problem
Yeah, they should just make the same type of games, just a different name, not related to AC whatsoever
@@ethanm8756 ♥️
This review broke me. I couldn’t finish it. Good job
me learning that Juno, who could be known as the franchises main villain, died in a comic no one cared about
This might be just me, but I absolutely think that AC Unity was taking the series in the right direction as far as innovations it brought to the series and because it was rushed out before it was done, it was received much worse than the game actually was. It's amazing as far as the world and atmosphere you get and it's still that classic AC that I love that involves planning out assassinations. If the Co-op had actually worked too OMG it would have been so good. I wish AC would develop a multiplayer coop again where you plan assassinations with your friends and carry them out how you all see fit with comms and everything.
This.
Unity had its issues, but if it was developed and optimized properly, it would have been received a lot differently. I still play Unity now because it is exactly what an AC game should be. And still looks good.
@@iraqvet87 The story would have still sucked and the melee combat was still too basic. The assassinations were great sure, but that's all it is. And Unity lacks content. Overall with its so called classic AC gameplay, Unity will still lack substance.
@@memecliparchives2254 totally agree with you...compared to new Ac games like origins it lacks a lot of content and unity combat system is not fluid at all. It's very basic.
@@iraqvet87 Unity had its issues but every game did. They revamped combat and made it not super easy. Had a good story, wasn't just a level grind. TOTALLY MASHED UP THE FREE RUNNING and made it fun!
YeahhDan Unity has been the closest thing to Assassins creed 2 since Assassins creed 2
Can you imagine if when playing Skyrim’s main quest where you had to kill a dragon in the watchtower, you’d have to farm some wolves to be level 15 to fight the dragon and unlock shouts, don’t worry tho you can go to river wood and buy the special deluxe high quality gourmet dovahkin xp booster
Yep... this isnt even a RPG it's just a level grind. Although AC4 was just a straight chain kill easy combat. That's what I miss. Because this game isn't a main combat game. It's a story game
@@waedi_ HOW is it complex ??? Its literally the arkham combat system but you have to buy or grind or else your attacks feel like love taps
@@mattfreak1206 both of them have roughly the same amount of complexity. The difference is black flag's combat was satisfying where as Odyssey's isn't.
@@BardicMadness Its not complicated at all. Theres nothing innovative or new here. Dodge and counter mechanics have been around for a decade. Whats annoying is levelling system in an ASSASSINS game. No matter how good you are you can only fight enemies like 6 levels higher max. Then your only choice is to grid. Lets not forget how moronic it is that you cant even instakill assassinate anyone higher level unless you grind and grind again, not even a SLEEPING target. Some assassins game this is. Logically a trained killer should be able to assassinate an unsuspecting target with a rusty fork, or even their bare hands (in the other assassins games). Level and grind mechanics have NO PLACE in an assassins game. It eliminates all realism and immersion.
@@mattfreak1206 i have rarely had an issue assassinating anyone even when they are levels ahead.
i always wanted to play AC games but never got around to them, it was never the right time. once i start a franchise i play all games it offers so it was about finding the right moment. with Valhalla coming out and me being free from any franchise i decided it was finally time and what better way to start off than with the "oldest" games, meaning Origins & Odyssey.
i started with Black Flag because i love pirates, love the setting it takes place in, game looked incredibly fun and i just couldn't wait to play it. i was enthralled. it was perfect. the franchise i waited to play for so long held up to high standard. i went into it with somewhat high expectations (rather optimistic expectations), hoping it wouldn't disappoint and boy oh boy it didn't. i still have yet to play the last DLC since there was a mixup with Deluxe pack and the DLC wasn't included, but clocking the game at 117h was quite the rollercoaster of a ride. i can't say anything bad about it even if i try really hard. first game and already my favourite lol
then it was time for Origins. took me bit by surprise the jump in mechanics, but i was as excited to play it as Black Flag. everything, once again, was perfect. i can't remember anything i disliked in the game. sure the formula changed from Black Flag but i think it found the right footing between the old and new and it didn't detract or deter me from the game itself.
some critique the mythical aspect of the game but i say you're not looking at it from the wrong perspective. ancient egyptians believed in gods and their ancestors that you can touch, like son of Sobek (practically just a giant albino alligator) or Apis bull, but they weren't real. animals were never real gods but they believed they were and treated them as such. the giant snake Bayek fights isn't real, it's all how he perceives a giant snake like anaconda to be. same for the DLCs with afterlife. it's how Bayek, and other egyptians, perceived the afterlife. we just experience it all exaggerated and made to look like real mystical place and creatures, from perspective of ancient egyptians.
finished the game after 152h having done everything the world had to offer, DLCs included and, even though would've liked the Assassin's brotherhood to be established little bit earlier in the game, at least DLC expanded enough on it to satisfy that part of the game.
then it was Odyssey's turn and, again, i was excited. it looked and felt like Origins so it was easier getting into it than from Black Flag to Origins. but then came problems. little things started bottling up. my once excitement turned into bewilderment of certain mechanics or gameplay elements that made no sense. i tried justifying it, find a reason it was certain way, but none made sense. like:
-the side quests that kept creeping their way from the board into real world
-the constant teleporting mercenaries for who i had to constantly pause the game for in the middle of the fight just to open up the map and pay the bounty off or them keep rushing to my position even after i sit still in a bush for 5 minutes, them unwanting to just walk away from me for more than a few meters
-stupid people being stupid trying to take on a misthios and me accidentally killing them and having teleporting mercenaries on my ass all over again
-the same few NPCs (minus/plus the wrinkles) with same 2 voice actors (exaggerating on the number but you get the gist) giving the same type of side missions that have no impact to the main story or my character
-my choices being ignored like with Sokrates who i genuinely like but game made my Kassandra feel annoyed by him which wasn't my picked choice
-romance options shallow with no impact on the character, game or story
-constantly pausing game yet again to keep making arrows during a boss fight deterring me from enjoying and feeling immersed in said fight
-caves all looking the same with either turning left at certain point or right, leader houses exactly the same in different parts of the map, tombs all looking the same with added bad lighting
-leveling system that has no reason to being there since everything levels with you
-exploring the open world made meaningless since its linear leveling system forbids you to go and do whatever you want, unlike in Origins where you could explore and reveal the entire map without even touching the main story after reaching Alexandria, which is what open world games are meant for you to do, not get tied down like in Odyssey and follow a linear progression. i don't mind linearity, but Odyssey seems to want to be both without being good at either
-cutscenes for side missions... every time i wanna talk to someone i gotta get off my horse, go through loading screen just to talk to the same person everywhere else on the map, speed through the same conversation, go through loading yet again only to find my horse not there waiting for me. bad enough it takes a few seconds for it to run to me, it's worse in cities or near them because it takes ages for it to come to me if i start running because its speed is halted. not to mention you gotta get to the other side of the damn map (exaggerating again) for the horse to speed back up to its normal speed
-too many gear pieces. it takes you out of the game and story if you gotta build your character to get the most out of what you set them out to be. may be enjoyable to some, but i focus on the narrative parts of any story, not planning and calculating pieces of gear
-the fact that Darius in the first DLC has assassin's gear on
-Layla done poorly in conveying apparent bleeding effect which is why Victoria reacted how she did, but players never saw that from Victoria's perspective because she was done equally as poorly that even i wanted to bash her head in just to make her shut up
-enemies take MINUTES to stop being alerted while you sit there, watch something to pass the time, go to the bathroom-- you get the point
-enemies keep occupying previously occupied spot as soon as the one from previously occupied spot died. essentially you could sit in a bush near a spot and just keep waiting for enemies to keep walking up to you to be slaughtered without moving from the said spot. rinse and repeat, which is what the moto of this game apparently is
-the fact that enemies have abilities is ridiculous. our character is supposed to be half-god yet the mere human enemies have as well
in the end what started as equally thrilling experience like with previous 2 AC titles turned into disappointment. i'm on episode 3 of Atlantis DLC with 290h poured into the game doing everything possible (i'm a completionist) and i can't wait to be done with it. it's tiresome to say the least. how anyone can put even more hours into the game, willingly, is beyond me. a game is supposed to finish in a timely manner and to make you miss it, not tie you down with repetition and emptiness in its world and characters. i will most likely never play this game again, but i sure as hell can't wait to play both Black Flag & Origins. i fear what the franchise did with Valhalla but if Odyssey is anything to go by i'm pretty certain i won't ever pick that game up. i just can't wait to be done with Odyssey so i can go back to the roots and play from the original Assassin's Creed game up to all the others i skipped.
I agree with you 100%. Odessy was so boring and just felt like a copy and paste world
@@shaunmorgan3858 I’m sorry but you are objectively wrong
@@eee270 compare all bandit camps, caves, temples, forts and whatever there is to be found in this world with each other and realize that he’s totally 100% correct and don’t hit me with “well here you go to the left and there to the right” or “well this bandit camp is on the coast and this one is not”. That’s not making the location unique and more interesting than the last. I got truly intrigued by odyssey’s world TWICE (out of hundreds if not thousands of question marks on the map mind you) which is such a shame because I love Ancient Greece and Greek mythology (my favorite game of all time is Hades as well) and it just didn’t deliver to me. (I’ll give the game one thing tho: the vibrant vibe of it is pretty nice)
A valid assessment. Odyssey also took me about three hundred hours to complete in entirety. There was some good moments, but overall it was too repetitive and drawn out. Origins was more self contained and it had a much stronger narrative imho.
Just play the game in release order please .
This still deeply hurts me...
They ruined the franchise for easy money..
The amount of hate I carry for this game is huge, I remember I was so excited for this game after playing Origins, I even got some special edition that had all of the DLCs (obviously was in discount) but I didn't even finish the DLCs I just opted to watch the playtrough on yt..
It was hell playing this game, that level scalling was pure torture
It absolutely disrespected the AC lore and put it in the trash..
And thanks to this game I never touched anything AC related after..
I feel so fcking betrayed.
Just wanna say that it wasn't easy money at all. The amount of time and effort they put in into making the game, despite the decision of making it into a whole different game, it wasn't all a cash grab in terms of production. The world of Odyssey is amazing but true the gameplay is very different. Its not assassins creed at all.
beautifully put together
@@Jirito it kinda was, odyssey feels like a game made to be as big as it can be as cheaply as possible
Bro if this "ruined the franchise" for you than I question what goes on in your head
@@franks2796 Ah yes the tried and trite coping mechanism of "bUt PaSt gAmEs sTiLL ExiSt" while ignoring the fact that when someone mentions a franchise being ruing they mean the current state as well as the future of said franchise.
It's a piss poor RPG with a terrible story that breaks the lore along with sub par combat that's trying to be the Witcher 3 and failing at it. All while trying to squeeze money out of it's players with monetary practices that are ruining the gaming industry.
Fun Fact:
Assassin's Creed Odyssey was originally meant to be a spin off called "Odyssey: An assassin's creed game"
I believe that is why it lacks the key elements of an Assassin's Creed Game
it lacks the assassin elements because it is of a timeline much before the brotherhood even formed,they are not assassins.just enjoy the backstory
@@rahuldutta9303 no it lacks the element because they didn't even try. You don't need the assassin order to do assassinations .
I can't explain my points because it will take forever to write all those . But just Google search The Ten Tenets of making an AC game . It was written by developers of AC2. And oddessy misses all of that.
@@samarendra109 Do you have a link? Because I've been looking for it but I can't find it.
Ignacio Cañas 3 tenants not 10 and they are 1 stay your blade from the flesh of innocence 2 Hide in plain sight and be one with the crowd 3 never compromise the brotherhood now you don’t have to look it up the person who said it was 10 is wrong
@@XLCook12 Mr Dumbass , it's not tenets of Assassin's Brotherhood. It's the rules made by Ubisoft team about how to make an assassin's Creed game. Lazerzz have made a video on it. Search it.
To see Unity, and to see how insane that town looked with all those NPCs made me really miss Unity. It nailed a lot of stuff despite people giving it shit. Gonna re download it now...
I did just that. I liked it well enough at launch, but after playing Odyssey it just nice to play an AC game again.
Unity has it's own problems, but after patching it's a quite good game that probably got more right than wrong, and it seems that more abd more people are giving it a second chance.
Dillon Busby it’s actually incredible now. I’ve played it without zero bugs happening. The setting, the story, the lighting the music. It’s incredible. I’m downloading syndicate to give it another try. And from what I here origins is a good game, I have it, I just never opened it, it’s still in its cellophane wrapping.
@@gamemasteroffun origins was really good and it was a nice change to the series but I'm not too keen on Odyssey, Unity is probably my favorite game in the series aside from the Ezio trilogy
MicroSmokeSleet origins is great. It feels like assassin’s creed. It’s story is compelling and it’s world is alive. I recommend it 100%.
@@gamemasteroffun Yes Origins is fantastic! The character of Bayek is one of the best of the franchise, and the setting, liveliness, and beauty of the world is outstanding.
I often come back to this video only for the astonishing amount of coping and seething in the comments section, I just can't have enough.
It truly is a mixed bag of people who treat this video like it’s either the next coming of Christ or the opposite. In reality I don’t even think this video is that good anymore. Although I still agree with the general sentiment, there’s a lot of change and a lot of arguments I’d tackle differently.
@@LazerzZ we need part two for the salts as a tradition XD/
The way you end this video is just art. I loved this game - but the way you ended this video. Art. I felt that.
Am i the only one that loved Unity?.. it made me feel like a real assassin..and the parkour was the best of all assassin creed games.. in my opinion.
Recently got it on sale and I loved it, don't really see the hate towards.
@@wetcat6514 Unity isn't a bad game, currently playing through it myself and very much loving the game.
The backlash it got was basically down to the bugs that the game had, and unfortunately still has to this day. I've only gotten into the second act of the game but every time I sit down to play there are at least a couple bugs. None of them are game-breaking but it does slightly bother me. I think its a matter of your opinion on how polished a game needs to be to enjoy. They released Unity too early, and it suffered for it. I'm normally able to laugh at the occasional bug and see it as unplanned comic relief in an otherwise tense game.
Not everyone feels the same though, and plenty of people like their games to have as little bugs as possible, none preferably. The story itself is one of the most compelling in the series.
The Parkour looks the best. The game looks gorgeous. I like it. It's more close to the older acs after ac3 and black flag. That's why you feel the nostalgia of being an assassin. But the world structure and missions are nothing worth writing home about. I still like it though.
Unity was really, really bad at launch. It was a huge onslaught of glitches and bugs, so people were pretty pissed. But now that they have patched the worst out, it's a really decent game.
@@thepirateofjamaica
I don't know, but bugs have always been part of AC, at least in my experience. I always had ragdolls flopping trough Venice and Rome to New York. Walls and edges that the character just glitches down from again, slipping over the end of a roof etc.
Unity was hot garbage when it released, but now it's pretty much like any other AC that came before with it's occassional glitches and bugs.
Lmao “Ubisoft just stole my money” first time?
Reading the 'newest first' on this video is golden.
Ubisoft : ac origins was successful let’s make a Bayek trilogy!!!
Ubisoft : on another note , we changed our minds let’s fuck up the ac franchise
Odyssey was just as successful.
If Ezio got a sequel, then so can Bayek.
But they wont make one lol since ubisoft is braindead
Why would they give Bayek a sequel? It ended when it ended. Maybe Amunet should get the sequel but not Bayek
Sh4rks Tooth it should be origins aya/amunet sequel and then a team up one with two branching story lines that are both canon
Ezio is the favourite because he's got layers
@@omegarpg2007Bayek and Edward has layers.
Ubisoft killed ac, in a game where u play as an assassin, you can’t even stealthily kill a person if he is a higher level than you
Second Cut well put. and yet some new fanboys are still defending it, saying “well it’s what AC going for now, just accept it cuz Ubisoft aint gonna turn back no more, I personally love it”
and no we’re not “playing as an assassin” anymore, plain mercenary
Patrice Tan 👏🏻
Ever heard of critical assassination m8? 300% assassin damage from stealth
@moysey83 i want the ability to actually assassinate people in a game named ASSASSINS CREED! even if i'm 2 levels less than my target
Bravo! 👏 Just found this as I started playing through the Odyssey DLC and wanting to find angry UA-cam content more than actually playing the game.
I would definitely agree with you on many levels. I never understood how we could have different choices that gave us different endings? Isn't Layla synchronizing Kassandra/Alexios' memories? Can Layla even make different choices in the animus and decide to kill people or not? The stories buildup were fine (the family line and the cultist line) but the endings were really shitty. The "best" ending of the family line where you have everyone alive seem SO forced considering there was absolutely zero change in Deimos' character development and he/she just suddenly decided to come back to the family. The ending of the cult line was worse, why could you choose to romance someone in such a serious occasion? Let alone the ultimate boss of the evil antagonist group you have been hunting down the entire game, the group that broke up your family in the first place, took away and brainwashed your sibling, and had your friends and protectors Perikles, Phoibe, and Brasidas all killed. That's literally sleeping with the enemy.
The gameplay seemed more enriched and fun at first especially after playing Origins, but very quickly you would see that it's the same boring stuff of chasing question marks that reveal very similar locations and objectives. Most quests are repetitive and boring, and if you want smooth gameplay, you have to grind the gears and engravings. Toward the end everything was just about getting 100% CRIT chance and highest CRIT damage as possible, which can be very difficult until you reach like level 90.
“And fans of this game just tell people to shut up and don’t play it.”
That’s starting to make sense when you sort by new.
Exactly. People got mad at me for calling out the fan base, but it’s honestly like a cult of angry kids.
LazerzZ exactly lmaoooo it’s legit people who haven’t played the older ac Games they don’t know what there missing out on like it’s legit gta with no guns lmao 😂😂
@@LazerzZ cult of kosmos you might say 😂😂
@@LazerzZ "Cult of angry kids" ? Have you seen your own video and read the comments lol No offense but the angry cult is on the other end of this one. But I did enjoy it. Very entertaining video. I like to see people passionate about a brand I enjoy.
An errand boy just like oddssey
My area during lockdown is busier than odysseys city centers
I advise you to have eye check up
@@kumarshivam1234 wtf 😂
🤣🤣🤣
@@kumarshivam1234 Why? Do you live in his area?
lol
I liked Odyssey but I loved the original way more. The only “modern” AC game I absolutely love is Origins and that was their first attempt at an RPG
I forgot how good Origins looked, especially by comparison to Odyssey which is a newer game, but feels less immersive and realistic.
I’ve spent hundreds of hours in Odyssey and love it. However, I don’t love it as an AC game because to me, Odyssey unfortunately is not an AC game. I have to mentally disconnect it from the franchise to really enjoy it.
Yeah same finally someone
Francisco Soares nahh, it’s just taking what origins was doing and doing it all a lot worse. The last game was objectively way way better
Yeah when i play it, i just think that i could be playing a better ac game. I play odyssey as an exploration game.
@@HieronymousLex Objectivity in the enjoyment of a work of art? Geez
Assassins Creed has been pretty lacking. This one was a nice refreshing change of pace. I’ve been wanting an Ancient Greek game for a long time and this scratches that itch. I wish they would have discarded the whole assassin crap and just called it Odyssey and had nothing to do with an Animus. The further away from AC this game gets the better
The saddest part is that literally almost ALL of Ubisofts games are like this now , from Odessey , to Ghost Recon , to far cry , all the way to the Division ...it’s just sad , they prioritize micro transactions over EVERYTHING , not to mention EVERY GAME is just the first level of that game copy and pasted throughout the whole rest of the world
I haven’t given Ubisoft any money since assassins creed origins and I refuse to buy oddesey or any other Ubisoft game because of this
I suspect Ragnarok will be like this. RPG is the mode now.
blacktigerpaw1 but like he said in the video , it isn’t even an RPG ...it’s honestly more like a hack & slash with VERY VERY limited rpg aspects , essentially just a copy & paste of the first level throughout the entire game
J Gar They’re making games more modern, its a new generation games weren’t going to be the same forever even for an entire franchise
Tigo _ dont get me wrong , change is 100% a good thing ...it stops them from getting stale as a series but the changes Ubisoft have made are change for the sake of change/“change”$ lol , not to make the series better
@@tigo_360 Ghost Recon Breakpoint looks like garbage game from the old times. Modern Warfare is the definition of a new game.
There is something so oddly gratifying to see a game torn apart to the degree that it deserves. What a great video! Thank you 🙏
Ikr
If nothing else, Odyssey got someone like me who was never initially interested in the series, apart from Black Flag, playing the games. I enjoyed Odyssey and now I’m playing Origins, AC3 Remastered, and Valhalla. I pretty much now have the rest of the games in my backlog and am looking forward to playing through them. I enjoy your AC videos; keep it up!
Just imagine if they gave enough time for Unity to be properly finished, none of this would have ever happened
That would've heavily changed AC for the better tbh
No, a lot of people would have been like "no pirates? It's bad"
unity is trash LMAO
@@xander1273 it's your opinion but would you care to explain what makes it so bad?
But then origins wouldn’t have existed :/
Oddysey is what we feared Origins to be
Edit: thanks for the likes, I also really hope James sees this.
What's sad about Odyssey is how great Origins was, it's my favorite Assassin's Creed game. I fell in love with the open world, characters and gameplay.
Odyssey was like a cheap rip off.
@@westont98 Odyssey is absolutely incredible in my opinion
@@cosmicchorus9898 That's fine man. But I returned my copy. It ruined the lore, the gameplay was somehow worse than Origins and to top it all off it didn't even feel like an Assassin's Creed game
If it didn’t feel like an AC game then don’t treat it as such
@@noblechief4023 It literally has the title "Assassin's Creed" on it. How do I treat it as any other game when it pretends to take place in that universe, all the while, not understanding what makes an AC game, an AC game? That's like buying a Call of Duty game and pretending it's Battlefield. Or a Batman game but pretending you're Spider-Man in it. Literally makes no sense. I shouldn't have to pretend the game is something that it's not just to enjoy it. That's ridiculous
Your argument is very well put and even tho I really liked the game when it first came out I don't know if I'll be able to play it anymore
Broke my heart a little bit but pulled the veil from over my eyes
Your speech at the end sums it up perfectly. I have nothing to add. It's how it is
I read on Assassin's Creed wiki, that Ubisoft will now focus on more "Open World RPG" with "Less Narrative".
That's pretty much a giant f**k you from Ubisoft to all veteran players to the series, who liked a great story to the games.
Ouch! That's just disgusting to read. The AC fans became who they are BECAUSE of the narratives, not because of the constant farming and grinding.
Not only that, but it also undermines all the RPGS that DO have good narratives. The Witcher 3, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Red Dead Redemption 2 all serve as testaments of that fact.
Reading your comment I just about cried. I give up on this franchise.
NOBODY PLAYED THO OLD AC GAMES FOR THE FUCKING GRINDING. UGHH THIS MAKES ME MAD
Aqu95ila that genuinely hurt for me to read
Aqu95ila Yep. They pretty put a middle finger to the hardcore AC fans who most of them left because Ubisoft put the franchise in a dogshit of pile now.
That ending monologue makes me so sad every time I hear it. Alexa play Leave Her Johnny from Assassins Creed 4
LMFAOOOOOO
Bro you are so right and straight on point. I am never installing odyssey ever. Or valhalla for that matter.
ur crying over a game bro get some bitches
@@doodooinmypants2393 ong
I downloaded it and tried it out just as a game not as an assassins creed game and honesty it’s really fun try it out dude grow up lol
lol you’re listening to a review from 2 years ago, odyssey is great, not a great AC game but a great game.
Grow up bro
The only choice in this game that has weight is leaving the plague family alive in the start of the game which causes the entire island to be infected and dark
True. And video essays defending this game always use that as their defense for the lie that choices do have consequences. Like wow, they made 1 choice actually matter. Bravo
@@thijmen5295 Its really well done quest for sure. May issue is the NPCs do not feel alive compared to watch Dogs. Also for a game about choice you end up falling if you kill to many people which makes no sense.
Just hoping for “Assassin’s Creed Valhalla Fixed Me”
You should see the ratio on the leaked footage.
blacktigerpaw1 im waiting for official gameplay, you cant judge a game just off leaked footage
blacktigerpaw1 I think that was due to the misleading title instead of the actual “gameplay”
@@jessieoleary3734 I've seen some. It really does look like Odyssey, albeit with social blending put in again.
It looks like the same
Wait... You Can't Sit On Benches in Odyssey?
EN7171 you can’t even lay down in hay😂
@@tylerpierce2041 when I found that out as I played it I was very disappointed😭
@@tylerpierce2041 wtf there's literally no hay in Odyssey. I maybe can forgive anything but NO HAY?!!
@@comrademays9631 There is hay. When you jump off a building, you can land in it, but you leave the bale immediately. If you try to get back in, you literally walk on top of the bale lmaooo
EDIT: Spelling
Wait, what?
i like how all the Pieces of gameplay we see with the webcam are LazerzZ being bored lol
I can bare everything in this game but the biggest problem I had with it that I had to give up mid game because of it, is that it takes forever to get to the point and it's side missions were a disaster!!!!!
i have 100 hours in Odyssey, and am no where close to the true ending. fuck this game, so disappointed that i wasted 30 bucks on it.
@@vanlllasky exactly that's how I felt.
@@allfun9876 i would be lying if i didn't say the game was at least some fun but so many people think this is the best AC and that pisses me off.
@@vanlllasky tell me about it!
When I tried to sit in a bench in this game and realized I couldn’t, my heart broke for a second
Well that’s fucking dumb it’s a game 😂
@@yeahyeahyeah-7674 stfu
@@yeahyeahyeah-7674 sitting on a bench was possible in assassins creed 1
@@dontwatch2666 I never said it wasn’t?
@@real_airgot you stfu, who’s heart gets broken over a pixels on a screen
I agree it’s broken me to the point where assassin’s creed has just become a find the best outfit
@Mitchell Hart Woah, let's not use Bethesda as a standard for that now. They are garbage now as well.
@Mitchell Hart And Bethesda are guilty of that as well. Rockstar apparently sets the standard for voice acting, for the most part anyway.
@Mitchell Hart Only Abigail and to an extent, Sadie had inconsistent voice acting.
@Mitchell Hart But the losers on Reddit will say, "its a breath of fresh air. Something new" Fuck that shit, the game is straight up garbage.
Hahahaha you play Odessey and you sign a contract which says you will die if you keep playing so quit before it's too late. God the cringe it almost killed and it gave me depression . Never ever going to play again.
I remember playing the game. The fact that it has endings and a character to choose threw me off, and still does today. It's a breath of fresh air in some ways, but in the Series it's placed in, I don't think it fits. I liked the fandom because of the idea that we would be jumping across buildings and assassinating people. We weren't taking on whole armies on our own, we were playing a likeable character (Ezio, Desmond, Edward, etc).
I miss the times we spent as Ezio in those Tombs and such. Sitting on benches, climbing whatever was realistic-ish (NOT FUCKING CLIFFS), being careful where we landed, following the Creed (or not), I loved Ezio and Altair, and Desmond too. It's a shame they're all gone and we deal with these now.
I still don't understand how so many people are OK with the introduction of dialogue options to this series. It is so detrimental to the core of the franchise, I don't even care how it was attempted to be 'explained', it's just a huge disappointment. No matter what the nitty gritty details are on how animus works (or doesn't work), the brilliance of the core idea of AC is that, through your DNA, you get to access your ancestors' core memories and in a way you can re-live them. This is such an amazing, brilliant idea; and a fantasy that made me fall in love with the series in the first place. For that reason I was disappointed to see that in Black Flag now anyone can see these memories, so that made it less special (because, through Desmond, WE felt special in the first games). But now with the dialogue options and different endings, it has nothing to do with the core idea of the franchise anymore. This is plain weird, like it does not make any sense, it's like introducing planes to a racing car game; planes don't have any place in a racing car game, if you know what I mean. It's just absurd. Of course we know why they did it, to be more like other RPG games, more like The Witcher 3. I just wish they didn't just betray the core idea of the story like this, Origins was great without the different dialogue options and varying endings, Odyssey would have been just fine too.
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So for the time being, Assassin's Creed ended with Origins.
But I haven't lost hope for a Assassin's Creed to return once again yet.
The franchise in a nutshell
I officially lost all hope for assassins creed. I just want the franchise to end so no more terrible rpg's be made in it's name.
The RPG system ain't bad, the skill tree is cool but I think they should combine some of the RPG elements with the original assassin's Creed Gameplay
Guy On UA-cam 69 Honestly, I think they should just keep the Origins system, the perfect blend of linear player development and rpg player customization, as well as a great combat system, they threw that all away when they made Odyssey.
If they were to just make a sequel for Bayek or even Arno AC would be so much better for it
What's the point of leveling up when everybody else in the game levels up with you.....
Wot do u mean?
@@sparshan242 he means what he said, what's so difficult to understand?
M C the stupidest people love to comment on UA-cam 😭
@@emon2689 it could be a mockery of what lazzerz said im just asking
@@richardgardner6142 yea because commenting on a thread without knowing what the person means is a big brain move. Congrats! U are stupid!
It feels good when someone understands you, thank you bro
So I’ll be honest. I’ve been playing a single play through of this game for over 3 years now. 300 + hours and I still love it. The naval combat alone makes the game worth it.
"The unnecessarily far away camera angle." FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED. It bothered me so much in Odyssey.
Adjust the field of view. Jesus fuckin christ, you guys criticize the game but you don't bother to take a look at the fucking settings.
@@coolstorybro4398 because nobody before you thought of that..
The camera angle look awkward either way.
I swear it ruins 1v1 fights with a bounty hunter so much, it doesn't feel like a personal fight
That's rpg crap style my man.
I like the FOV in the older games and Origins. I hate Unity's FOV.
You just said everything I think of odessey
Nobody YES
Maybe learn how to spell it
MADS maybe learn how to b nice
Anyone else rewatch this every couple months?
I enjoyed AC:O immensely when I was just exploring, listening to the soundtrack, taking in the vistas and feeling like I was following the tale of an ancient Greek hero. The moment mechanics and embedded story telling kick in, it is all gone.
My biggest problem with odyssey that came to light for me was the levelling system. If I put hours into building my character and getting armour/weapons that have high stats and were difficult to find. I’d want that to show when I easily kill a low level enemy. I hate level scaling because it takes away from so many features and mechanics in the game.
Yeah levelling is really hard, but its still one of my favorite games, just that story and armor and other things
Bruh exactly. I been levelling up my character from doing alotta side quests but all the other characters are also at lvl 20 when I grinded to that level. Makes no sense for me to level up fast since they’re just gonna level up the same as me nonetheless. I get that they’re trying to balance it but it feels kind of a waste if they’re just the same level as you always.
That's one of the reasons why i love Skyrim so much, you start as a weak nobody with no equipment and end up becoming the strongest creature with legendary weapons you obtained from demons
This became apparent to me too. It didn’t feel like my effort was achieving anything
You should be able to turn scaling off if you want so you can godmode low level areas if you want
Finally someone is pointing the real problems with Assassin's Creed Odyssey and not just "omg i don't like RPGS boo-hoo"
RPG is part of it
I enjoy RPGS and I believe that they're ok and an AC stand point. But its origins and oddesy (in my opinion) will never be as amazing as AC 3 or AC4 or even unity
@@Kalleebb Origins for me is WAAAAY better then AC3. I love Conor, but the story was very boring.
To be fair... using RPG mechanics in a game, context, and setting that doesn't work, in a franchise that never used them, is a pretty fair point.
@@DarkHorror45 Thats how I felt, I literally bought it only to waste time until RDR2 came out
I also noticed how The HUD and ui is the exact same as Orgins, like some parts look identical to origins but far less polished and less attention to detail of course
I have a friend who likes odyssey. He also thinks far cry 6 is better than uncharted. This is the type of guy we are talking about here.
So you have a friend who just has a different opinion and preference of video games than you? Yikes, how are you still even friends with them? Thats crazy.
@@YerpDerp17 No, he has a friend that's mentally handicapped
I grew up with Assassin's Creed, I remember how much I looked forward to when Assassin's Creed Brotherhood came out
I played all the games, but unfortunately Ubisoft made something awful about it. And that's the saddest part
Same here. Money and greed. Isn't it a little ironic? Ubisoft just became Abstergo. But shittier, blander and more boring.
@@ErinnBastias nah, Abstergo is putting some serious work into world domination, Ubisoft is just doing easy mode and appeal to the wishes of casual gamers. I could live with buggy games like unity and black flag, but these grindy bad witcher/dark souls bastards (origins and odessey) are a pain in the ass to play. They need to go back to the roots.
100% agree. Everything up until ACIII was great for me. After that, it started going downhill fast. Unity, although I've personally never played it, looks great, but I got Odyssey the other day for $30.00 on the PlayStation store with the whole Season Pass deal (that came with III, thank God) and this game is absolute rubbish. The movement is disgusting, it doesn't even feel like Creed. I loved how in III they changed up how Connor moved about, and introduced more fluidity in the animations. This game just feels like I'm running around those SafeZones from The Division, except I'm running like that the whole time. Being able to scale any and everything and then jumping down the Empire State Building and surviving just makes me feel like I'm playing some derpy, modded up, RPG version of some Ubisoft dev's acid trip. The button mindless button mashing can drag you in, but this does not deserve to be called and Assassin's Creed.
@@hotvindilu1 hey, Same! The animations and kills in III were freaking brutal. Where the first one and the series with Ezio felt precise and deliberate, the combat in III felt like anger and passion from an outcast native guy getting by in colonial era. I've played Unity, but haven't finished yet, but I can say that it's miles better than what Odyssey looks. At least it feels like an AC game. I can say that at this point, the charm is kinda blown off and I can't really give a crap anymore about the modern day storyline, but everything that happens in the 1700s France is beautiful. Most of the time I just walk around the streets to get to my objective only to see what the city looks like. Paris feels alive, the movements are fluid, the freerunning is okay but suffers a little bit from this thing where you're aiming at a location and your character ends up somewhere entirely different. But that's always been AC. And there is actually falling damage.
@@hotvindilu1 i agree it all went downhill real fast and it turn Assassin Creed into a milking franchise
I thought i was crazy for not liking this game cause all my friends liked it, this video makes me feel better
I liked the game
Believe me, you’re not the only one who dislikes what this game has done to the series or even disliking it as a stand-alone game
Steve Robertson most casual gamers loved it. Most die-hard Assassin’s Creed fans did not, and they have been incredibly vocal about their concern for the direction Ubisoft is taking the series. The good news is that from information I have heard, the next instalment in the series is likely to be closer to a traditional AC game than Odyssey and maybe even more so than Origins. What I can almost guarantee is that the parkour will be much improved because everybody knows that the movement engines in Origins and Odyssey are both trash as far as AC is concerned. I’m hopeful now and I am looking forward to the next game, which isn’t something I said 8 months ago
@Steve Robertson Mate if your saying Assassin's Creed should take a shift away from actual Assassin's, your in the wrong franchise mate.
This is honestly so sad. I feel the same about EA and The Sims series. The Sims 4 broke me.
I just maxed out the stealth tree and played on easy. Gameplay was fun same as any other Assassin's Creed game. I enjoyed for the story and also the historical value of seeing Greece and its Golden age. I will not deny having the travel across the map at times was absolutely maddening to the point where I want to rip out my hair. But at least they gave you a slight Boone as long as you got within range enough to have a port appear on your map you unlocked it as a fact travel point which really helped take a lot of the pain out of the whole venture. My suggestion for any new player is as soon as you get the trireme you sail to every single Island don't land on them just unlock all of the Fast Travel ports. If you do that the moment you get the trireme you save yourself a lot of headache. Also just ignore every single upgrade for the trireme except defense and ramming speed. Messing around with the ranged combat mechanics is a nightmare you're just far better offer ramming your ship into the enemy ship constantly until you destroy it don't even bother using the boarding action once it has the anchor symbol just a ram into it again and collect Salvage
The camera position makes a huge difference to immersion, look how far away it is in Odyssey compared to Origins while walking, being closer feels way better.
"the unnecessarily far away camera angle"
The distance of the camera to the player character in games generally correlates with how close you feel to the character. It's only natural that it would be pulled out more here
That's why in RDR2 your character takes up most of the screen
@@louisjefferies2733 God of War too
Hate the camera of this game
U can change the camera's distance dude
Corny
(World) What platform were you running Odyssey on? I could have sworn I had bigger crowds than that on PC
I downloaded and installed the game, but it wants the code for the atlantis section, can you help with this?
The frustrating thing is that I think Origins was what the series needed to avoid fatigue, and an interesting starting point for a new direction that could be expanded upon.
But it feels like as soon as that sold well and got good reviews, Ubisoft saw it as an opportunity to just make it into the new formula. They immediately went back to a one year development cycle and basically tried to copy paste the format of Origins into a new setting and pad it out in a way that encourages spending.
The whole thing just feels so cynical, and that’s the most frustrating thing about modern Ubisoft. Their games have a ton of interesting concepts that sound intriguing but they seem content to just do the bare minimum instead of really following through on these ideas that could easily result in something really memorable and unique.
icantthinkofaname played both, I think Odyssey is better, mainly because the characters fell more alive
@@Nerfherder117 Odyssey felt more alive? Such an ugly lie.
@@Nerfherder117 if you think odyssey it's better, your tastes, but the only thing that's it's better on odyssey, it's the ship enviroment. sadly, they did not use that in the game, and put ship sessions on side quest or free roaming.
@@Nerfherder117 _"mainly because the characters fell more alive"_
LOL! I seriously hope to God you're joking. Kassandra will NEVER compare to characters like Bayek or Aya.
@@Nerfherder117 the comment you just said is wrong on so many levels, from both a gameplay and technical standpoint.
Of course, you can have an opinion, but an opinion can be wrong
This is the first Assassin's Creed game I never finish it because I don't care anymore, so yeah this game really broke me too.
Me too :(
I finished the game, but I honestly wish I didn't.
this and syndicate are the only ones i didn’t finish
The series died after Unity.
I only finished everything down to the DLCs just to be prepared for Valhalla tbh. I’d do myself a favor and read some recaps instead but I’m one of those guys who’d rather experience things first hand, no matter how excruciating it could be
I thought I was only one and I might be going crazy, every thing you said is on point for me.