Project Ferrari F430 Interior Repairs - Fixing Sticky Buttons with Alcohol & Spray Paint?!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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First day of working on the Project Ferrari F430 and I take on one of the most common problems with Ferraris in hot climates - the dreaded sticky buttons. I remove and clean up all of the buttons that are sticky, and some of them I coat with plasti-dip to help give them a fresh new look and so they retain a soft touch feeling.
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I love the commitment to the work with your entire service outfit!
Thank you!
Great attention to detail Dan . Looks like you might have found a great business angle .
Hope so!
Hey Dan, that's a nifty idea. Prompted by your video I dug into the subject (which I suppose you have done as well). Appears there are two types of buttons and panels with icons, and the ones with that get the black coating _may_ need laser etching. I didn't find any maker or refurbisher who's willing to divulge his trade secrets, but I stumbled upon aviation enthusiasts who build their own flight simulators that have black surface instrument panels with back-lit illuminated white icons, numbers, etc. Very detail-oriented perfectionists. They've run into the same issues of laser etching painted plastic. In this comment thread they're discussing laser settings and the number of paint layers to apply to create their instrument panels. talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/laser-etching-painted-plastic/7029/55 . This may prove useful to you in the future.
Best wishes on your endeavours.
Dan, I actually experienced “sticky buttons” on my Jaguar XK. Amazingly, a simply solution is to rub the parts down with hand/ Body lotion. I used Burt’s Bees Body Lotion. I have heard on my Jaguar forum that other hand lotions work equally as well. Coat the part with the lotion, use your fingernails or a toothbrush to scrap the sticky stuff and wipe with a micro fiber cloth as you show. A toothpick is useful in the cracks and crevices. Alcohol can remove the white printed symbols on the buttons so I would not recommend using it. The best part to my solution is that you do not have to remove or recover the parts/buttons. The lotion can easily be removed with the micro fiber towel. Try it...you will be amazed. I did this three years ago and they have remained sticky free.
That's very interesting. I may have to try that someday on a future project. :)
It's probably just diluted so that's why it doesn't remove the print
Normal Guy Supercar my XKR-S GT has some sticky button issues... I’m going to try this.
I like that you respond to your viewers, not many that.Keep it up Dan.
You just saved me $8999 + tax…Ferrari wanted to charge me for three sticky buttons in my 2015 F12 Berlinetta. Thank you so much!
Oh dang! Well glad to help
It's the little cosmetic details that add up and keep the old cavalli looking good. Grazie Dan.
Thanks! Yes, the details make the difference between a good car and a great car! :)
So happy to see this video. Am thinking of buying a 488 but this sticky button issue would keep me awake!
Yeah, it's unfortunate that many of the Luxury car manufacturers choose to use this crappy material.
Great video Dan. Just got my buttons done on my f430. Also Happy Birthday Dan enjoy and be safe!!!
Thank you
Nice job on those they look great. I like that you’re taking care of all the little repairs before selling it
Thanks for making this video Dan! All of your videos are very well done. I'm tackling the sticky button clean-up on my 360 now and the sticky interior parts are very similar to the F430 in disassembly.
You're welcome
Hi Dan, great content as always, good luck with the auction 👍👍
Thanks 👍
It's even worse on light-colored interiors. When I first got my car it took me a couple of weeks to figure out why all these black streaks were getting on my door handles, etc. until I realized it was the goopy soft touch from the switches coming off on my hands and getting everywhere. Luckily, like this 430, most of my stuff had been done, but a few switches still needed a cleaning.
Yeah, I would imagine that it would leave all sorts of nasty streaks in tan interiors! It's really nasty stuff.
Solid video Dan.
Love the 1/3 net profits to the guy who gave you the lead.
If you loose money is he liable to pay 1/3 of the costs 😲
LOL no, if we lose money they are off the hook. That's on me.
Dan, give yourself a pat on the back and an "atta boy" for the great work you did on all of the parts.
Thank you very much, I appreciate that. :)
Dan, wow, that is one CLEAN F430! Whoever buys is is going to be one lucky owner I could tell you that! BTW, that plastidip is the hot ticket! I wouldn't be surprised if that's what the restoration companies actually do!
I wish it were slightly more durable is my only complaint about the plastidip. Maybe it can be coated in something else?
This is perfect timing Dan, I need to clean up my HAVC controls on my F 430 so can’t wait to see the next video.
Ah yes, fun with sticky parts
Jesus I am in awe with your confidence!!!!!
Thanks
I’ve spent the last couple of months gradually cleaning up my sticky buttons and interior plastics on my Maserati, I have had to replace one control panel and have the gear lever surround painted. Nearly done, only 3 air vents to go 🙂
Awesome! Glad you're making progress.
Nice job, Dan. Have you considered doing the other pieces that are not sticky now but will be so eventually? Could be a small yet still significant selling point when people learn the costs involved. "All 'soft touch' interior pieces corrected by refinishing them to remove sticky rubberised covering." What would a Ferrari service centre or third party charge to refinish all of them? StickyRX quoted a 2002 Maranello 575M owner $1970 to refinish 5 vent rings, the centre console, 7 console switches, 1 gas lid release button, and 1 trunk release button. The quote from the StickyNoMore website for the same parts was $1010. To buy third-party made replacement parts for the 430 is about £3600.
Well, the soft touch coating is hard to get off when it's not already turned to goop.
Great result. Used plastidip in my Alfas when sorting out the same issues and the results where great :)
Good! I had heard it was a good solution and wanted to give it a go...
Sometime you should try the carbon-fiber looking hydrographic film. That would have made some of those parts look even cooler without much more effort!
True...
Super useful thanks ! so the Goo Gone isn't necessary finally ?
No I think we've found better solutions now
Thanks again Dan......very interesting.....
Glad you enjoyed it
sometimes a pair of butter knives will pop the stereo loose. one on each side at same time.
That just makes me nervous that I'll break something.
Sometimes... lol
@@Fulloctanegarage I've actually had better luck with the knives or small putty blade than the official tool, which I own. It ain't rocket science. You are just pulling back a piece of paper thin spring steel with a hook on the end far enough to pop the hook.
I’m like e three year old waiting for the next vid to happen.
Haha got the live tomorrow and another video Friday.
"Serious inquiries only"..... love the business model !! I'm sorry the last auction didn't work out well but it was a learning experience and it brought you to this !! I'm certain this will go more smoothly as you're keeping the riff-raff out of negotiations and will deal with serious buyers !! Great model, great content....love the actual diy content as we can see where some of those pesky screws are located... the Italian music ? Is it proprietary or found on open source ? Thanks again for all you do :)
I have a license for that song :)
@@normalguysupercar that's fantastic !! Very fitting to the channel, and of course, to Les Saque du Cul'dé.... lol...
Nice job! Super car jumpsuit guy..
Thanks
Project? Dan that car looks like no project to me it’s in excellent shape, This is more like a cosmetic detail and flip car in my opinion... keep it up though!
Well yes exactly, that's still a project.
Normal Guy Supercar Great job though, if you’re ever out in California you should stop by my body shop I’ll show you some projects currently working on a 488 pista with the entire front end smashed off...
Maserati's of the same era suffer the exact same issue :( I used the red type nail polish remover and the the plasti dip to refinish
Yup, many many luxury brands have the same problem. It's annoying.
Excellent video.... keep it coming 😁😁
Thank you! Will do!
The Porsche 997 has the same problem only worse. A little company in Spain provides a really great solution
Yeah, it's really common with luxury cars. :(
I love your vlog always
Thanks!
Dan, thanks for the great video! I'm currently building up the nerve to try this on my Maserati GranTurismo. How did the alcohol solution work for you on buttons with lettering or icons? Did you run into any issues with the lettering coming off? Is the PlastiDip clear so you can spray the buttons and still see the letters/icons?
Alcohol works best but you do have to be careful and take your time
Dan are you missing all the "nefarious" activities you could do with your 458? :P
YES.
I have a piece that has a lot of white writing on it , most of the plastic coating I have removed , what would happen if I sprayed the clear plasti dip on it ? Would it give back to factory like ?
Not quite factory
Plastic paint would hold up better, and look better than plasti-dip. I've done both. Dupli-color vinyl and fabric paint. Takes a while to dry before you can touch. I did a nice job with my Mustang's door inserts... then left a fingerprint where I could always see it. :-( Once it cured though it could handle the daily use rubs. I'd say a day and then be careful assembling.
Oh I may have to try that next time. Thanks for the tip. :)
Nice Video Dan, not easy work but very rewarding, I’ve done a lot of it too. Does the Plastic Dip have a similar soft touch feel? I haven’t used it but have considered it.
It's not quite the same texture but it feels nicer than the raw plastic.
Ever considered the idea of working on a conversion project with your buddy Ed from Gated6? On one of these flips...if you do more?
Yes, we've talked about that. (It's Art, not Ed)
Dammit...I knew when I wrote Ed something didn't sound right. Yes...Art!!
Dan with your experience now, what's you opinion of SEM vs Plasti-Dip?
Not a fan of plastidip
@@normalguysupercar thank you 🙏🏻
Its about a tear later...Did the Plasi-dip hold-up?
Yes
Dan, did I hear you correctly - you were rubbing one out???
Lol
Working on the 430 bringing back memories?
LOL yes!
why did you use plastidip? the minimum contact is damaged. the best would have been a paint for plastics. (rust oleum)
I believe that coating is called butylene rubber.
Well, it's called that bullshit soft touch here in my garage. LOL!
@@normalguysupercar lmfaoooo
makeup remover pads work better than rubbing alcohol
Basically similar chemicals... Makes sense.
How about 303 uv protection, to prevent issues.
Certainly a good idea
If only it were a spyder..! :)
Less problems, less weight, better lines in the Coupe.
Isn’t plastii dip too soft ?
If you're going to be scratching it with metal stuff, then probably.
On the vents did you wind up taking off the arrows?
yes.
I know of a Ferrari 550 in the UK that a friend wants to sell. Its not advertised anywhere just sat in storage, he has told me he would like to sell it but doesn't want the hassle. He doesn't need the money. Would you be interested?
Possibly for the right price.
I thought the F430 is sold. It’s still in the garage.
This is not the one I used to have, this is another F430
The 458 doesn't have this problem?
Sadly it does.
Wear a mask when you spray, your lungs will thank you. Give as much time as possibly to the parts you sprayed allowing them to cure and firm up - the longer the better. If you handle the parts before cured you do so at your peril as the part coating is very fragile until cured and is easily damaged by a wayward screwdriver, or by the pressure of your hand if pushing too hard. I think you realized you don't need to loosen the dash to remove the air vents, which are very difficult to properly reassemble back in. correctly. Do not play with the directional air switch at all costs. If you do move the directional air vent piece it will have you eventually just giving up and putting the vents back in without dealing with the directional switch. Take my word for it don't touch it. The vents are reinstalled with the air flow arrows closest to the windshield on the top, there's also a cut out slot it will fit in to when properly aligned. A good firm tap will pop them in but be careful you don't break the carbon fiber. Yes I do this for a living.
I would bring my car to this guy vs Ferrari dealer.
Well I don't really want to work on other people's cars since I don't have insurance for that. Lol
@@normalguysupercar I am glad though that you are knowledgeable about Ferraris! I can pick your brain sometimes…dealers are not honest.
@@normalguysupercar you can probably advise us so we don't get ripped
@@normalguysupercar The best thing you can do for your Ferrari is to get your garage air conditioned ! That will prevent sticky switches and other issues.
I'm going to guess that a raffle is not possible?
No, I'd have to sell enough raffle tickets to cover about $100k... That seems like an annoying task. Plus then you have to deal with all sorts of legal issues.
I would have made the deposit $1000.
Where's Mo?
Well, if I have to increase it in the future, I will.
$11.50 😁
You can register with that and still have $1.50 to spare.
I thought you already sold your F430 to a friend?
I did a year ago, this is a different car.
@@normalguysupercar awesome mate, I love your channel. Im going to book a call with you before I pull the trigger on the 458/488 👍
If this happened to a Corvette every would scream
Do you have to put your Ferrari outfit on? Or can you wear shorts and a T-shirt?....
I have to, it's in the owners manual.
Very good then......
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Thanks!
That's pretty shitty build quality considering how much these cars cost