Why Japanese Job-Hunting is the Hardest in the World
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2024
- Want to get life-long employment and work in Japan? Japanese job hunting is a lot harder than you thought. Japanese job-hunters are telling us about the horrors, failures and pains of trying to get full time employment in Japan. If you are looking for work in Japan and Tokyo, be prepared to pass these tests.
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Another thing to be mindful of is how you act and behave in the street, shortly before and after the job interview. I recently read that an applicant who was already quite far into the recruitment process with a company was disqualified after an HR employee followed him to the station and saw something he didn't like. Apparently it's not so rare for recruitment agencies to do this.
Well, I wouldn't care if I was denied after being followed that way. Better live in the street than being harassed. It's so stupid that it's almost unbelievable (but Japan...)
Where is that taken place?
in western countries it's your social media that they would look into, I guess
@@astridwib7340 Tokyo
i think you're mixing up the meaning of recruitment agencies. recruitment agencies are go-betweens for the applicant and company that is looking to hire. also, new grads usually won't use recruitment agencies to find a job, but will apply via riku nabi or mynabi. these aren't recruiting agencies but job portals. it's the hiring company that probably saw this student in the street and disqualified him. how do i know this? i've done shukatsu in japan in the past, and i also work for a recruitment company. i would say it's common knowledge that one is expected to behave even outside the interview premises. at least that's what i was taught when i was job hunting in japan.
It’s very difficult to legally fire someone in Japan, which is why they tend to be so thorough in choosing applicants. I applied as an experienced hire to a foreign company, so fortunately I didn’t have to go through such a gruelling process!
Something else I've noticed is that in Japan, women are expected to wear high heels when job-hunting. I think that's wrong because wearing high heels is very painful and can cause blisters (in this video though, the student wearing the suit looks like she is wearing flat shoes). There was even a movement a few years ago where Japanese women opposed being "forced" to wear high heels during job-hunting and in the workplace.
This just adds to the difficulties that job-hunters face during 就職活動.
Most of your interview quetions in the U.S are job related from what I've experienced. The process in japan sounds tough though. Math and geometry would kick my butt for sure lol
Khan Academy has great math tutorials and lessons. If you're interested, I'd definitely head there and get a grasp on it! It'll be secondhand in no time.
I can't do basic math so at least you're doing better than me
@@JD-qo7hm thank you
A lot of the job-hunting process is done by Japanese companies to find candidates whose personalities & skills match what they look for as another potential member that will be joining their community. The ability to communicate your ideas well, read the atmosphere, and fit into the company's culture are the three most important factors. This is coming from someone who finally finished their job-hunting in Japan after a whole year (minus December-April's COVID-19 influece).
Jeepers. That's tough. There are some good aspects to it though, not a lot of employee turnover I suspect. Here in the States GENERALLY it's not what you know but WHO you know. BIG fat like.
Strange that they dye their hair so that they don't stand out among other applicants. In the West it's generally considered a good thing to stand out - not stand out too much, but enough that the employers will make note of you and remember you.
The funny thing is that once you start working it’s more common for girls to dye your hair brown and you’ll actually get weird comments if you keep it black
Yevgeny Ananin Japanese companies tend to hire a group of new recruits each year, not just one person. They want people who are similar and will gel together so having the same serious approach to personal presentation is a matter of cultural fit.
I've got pink hair and I stand out quite a bit but I still managed to get a job at a decent company
envy .My goddamn country gets mad at me for dying my hair. Yes, of course it's Japan
Currently I am looking for new job too.
One of the most difficult question is: "reason of changing job?"
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Money!!! -> get out!
Project leader! -> We don't know you clear so start from beginner please!
Current company sales is going down! -> Wait until it will go up!
I never understood why people get mad that you quit a job because of money.It's always the reason why you want to get a job is to have money for some random crap and make it as much as you can while working as less as you can.
Other thing that i dislike is when company shows you middle finger because you don't have a degree while you have way more experience,skill and papers that shows that you know your field of work.Had this done to me where i send a CV to Electronic Laboratory where they were making and designing Military,Medical and Space electronic parts.After they invited me to interview that went quite well (at least in my eyes) i got a call after few days that while i have all skills needed for job i don't have degree and they have to reject me.Funny part is that i send my CV to job in Netherlands where i had to contest for same spot with 4 people that were after college and they simply choose me because i had experience.
Honestly some day i will make my own company where i will hire people based on skill and ability not some fancy degree because i feel like too many people with bright future are getting shut down.
@@RyItar Thank you for your comment!
I don't understand either, I think it is just their culture, and one of the reason maybe they want a staff work for them in the whole life.
Of course, I don't blame all companies in Japan. I just don't understand. I did worked with some HR agencies, they consulted me that: NEVER talk about money!!!!!
And one HR guy is American is working in Japan also said so.
@@RyItar "i feel like too many people with bright future are getting shut down.": currently I am :((((((
@@RyItar I think in the USA (and possibly all of the western countries) they value the experience more than they do the degree. I have a degree, but they always pick someone with 20+ years of experience. They don't care how much education you have because I guess they figure people can learn everything (or cheat their way through university), but don't know how to successfully apply what they learn.
Always say that the previous job didn't give you a sense of growth and development. They like these types of answers. Or say that you were a contractor.
What kind of jobs are ONLY for japanese people? And what kind is only for other people?
@ unfortunately, only in theory :( I have friends who applied for jobs in Japan (they are fluent in Japanese, but the focus was more on English, f.e one applied for a Japanese-English publisher), and they were often rejected based on the fact that they are foreigners. So far, no one that I know has got a job at a Japanese company.
@ Yes, we are European, so my point still stands. I mean, some specifically told them that they don't employ foreigners, others wanted them to fly to Japan for weeks long process of interviews (although other countries prefer skype interviews until the final stage.) It's a shame really, because all of them have lived in Japan, and a friend of mine is living there again right now, doing an internship at a non-Japanese company. She has a Japanese boyfriend and consideres Japan her home. She understands their culture and I'm sure she would do great (especially because she can offer 4 languages, and was looking for a job where she would mostly have to use English anyways.) I can readily believe that other Asians might have it easier, at least job wise.
@ Said friend of mine has more Japanese than Western friends. She has close friendships that have lasted for years. I think that, yes, the mentality is different, but it still depends on the person. If someone has lived in Japan and knows can read the atmosphere and stuff like that, why shouldn't they be hired? I also think that (especially in creative fields), Japanese companies should be more open to people who are different. They might introduce them to new ways of thinking or problem solving (and vice versa), and could be an asset. So I really hope things will be changing.
@ is this your roundabout way of asking if she really has Japanese friends? Because after all western and Japanese people can't be friends? Since they were uni students, they have been to each other's flats, but mostly met outside because their living space is way too small. She has an older Japanese friend who goes on holiday with her and invites her to her house, so is that convincing eough for you? Her two boyfriends have been Japanese as well. She lives in Japan, she speaks the language. There is no point in not giving her a job at a Japanese company, except for racial prejudice.
@@garrett8850 its rarer, but haafu have been appointed by the prime minister, and there are full blown naturalized japanese citizens who are politicians. Police and military are probably the hardest to do, followed by politics, but no job is full blown closed. A naturalized citizen can even become Prime Minister in theory, though good luck with that.
Wow, that sounds awful. When I interviewed for a career job at GE, there was a panel of three people asking softball questions. The only technical question they had was "What is the most common use for a transistor?" When I went, "a switch," they all cheered and went, "You're the first person to answer that question correctly." I'm thinking, seriously, that's not even a hard question. Why does nobody know the answer?
The girls are so pretty~ 🌼✨
I always find having to dye hair black ridiculous. It's really unfair. I imagine if I were in their position. I have natural brown hair and I love it so much I'd never dye it and ruin it. It's cruel that they're that socially pressured to change something natural about themselves.
It is weird. Plus unified brown is not green or multicolored, so it should not distract or disturb in any way.
The fact that they're judged on their appearances in general is silly and unnecessary. How does looking pretty interfere with your professional life?
@@AG-mk8vg The "harmony of the group".
They're not required to dye their hair black. They require you to have a hair color before you dye it. So, you don't have to dye your hair black because your hair is natural brown.
Most people will indeed say "I have to dye my hair black"etc. because 99% (maybe) of Japanese has natural black hair.
That rooftop view is stunningly beautiful!
What I like about the Japanese hiring process is the general acceptance of students in the workforce after college, while here in America they ask you for years of experience even though you just graduated. Also as someone pointed out, these days it's more about who you're buddy buddy with more than actual qualifications.
While it makes it easier to find a job as a newly graduated student (in theory at least), it results in a ton of problems on the other end. People who haven’t freshly graduated have a lot of difficulty finding jobs, the first 2 years are usually like college where you spend most of the time just studying and taking exams even. It’s just a super inefficient and honestly retarded system
So one thing that would have been interesting would have been to interview some young men and contrast their experiences.
やり過ぎだ。会社＝人生(終身雇用)・仕事＝生きる意味、企業＝個人的生活を犠牲にしても貢献すべき社会的絶対価値、みたいな従来の日本の仕事文化を表している。
副業容認とか働き方改革とか人手不足で売り手市場とか言われているけど、日本社会の芯の部分は変わってない。
良いことも悪いことも有るけど、オープン化を目指しているこのご時世にこんな就職試験のあり方はどうなの？
個人的には「やり過ぎ」と思う。
I have worked in Human Resources for 10+ years now and we would be taken to court and likely fired if we conducted an interview in any way similar to the Japanese corporate methods.
I’m not saying is wrong but definitely different. I can respect that different cultures handle the hiring process in their own way. On the flip side, in the U.S. an employee can be terminated for nearly any non discriminatory reason but that doesn’t appear to be the norm in Japan
yup, the West has lots of anti-discriminatory rules, thank God. Iirc France had once a major case involving a cop candidate who passed the written exams with flying colors but was explicitly rejected because of his long bushy beard (and by explicitly I mean there was solid proof). He was also of Algerian ancestry and very likely a muslim. The man won the case and was even compensated, but that still doesn't take away the fact that a local police administration tried to discriminate unfairly in broad daylight and thought they could get away with it just because in a way they were "the state".
6:00 I love the bloopers so much!!!! Please keep up the goofs! 🤞
I would be homeless and unemployed if I was in Japan. These interviews are insaaaane!
A Japanese would have difficulties in passing interviews in the West because they are 'shy' and 'introverts'. So it is a matter of preparation. They are prepared to go through those type of interviews but most of us aren't. Hence "difficult".
Now... The day anyone from a 1st world country ever tries job hunting in a developing or 3rd world country is the day they will stop with "hardest in the world" for anything job-related in a 1st world country..
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That sounds so wrong
Moonie Cathy Cat I could not help noticing , I think those pretzels where at risk looking at that interview that one girl wanted to eat em,LOL!I have been pretty lucky here in the UK i have stayed in the same job for 35 years and still will the same company although its changed names a couple of times I love working with the same team,but i think this day and age here its getting pretty tough getting a right job that suits the general individual over here I think!
i live in Japan and went through several job hunting. in this pandemic when everyone is using Zoom for interviews. often the interviewers were late when having a group session. what shocked me is that HR asking me about private questions that are totally not related to the interview.
What if your skin has problems with the black dye?...
Well, in Brazil, big companies have this kind of interviews. My brother works in a truck company, and went through 5 interviews before passing as a trainee, after that went to Sweden for 3 months and then started working as full-time employee... But he applied to several companies, and went to dozens of interviews before getting this job...
Everything in the last 6 months of university years. He got his job 1 month before graduating.
And here I am, unemployed watching videos on UA-cam 😑
去年就活しました。20社受けてやっと1社内定貰いました、それくらい就活苦労しました。
不採用通知を何社も貰ったときは、軽いストレス性胃腸炎になり、社会から必要とされていない、と感じることもありました。
日本の就活で感じるストレスや抑圧が払拭されることをただ願うばかりです。
Six stages?? Wooah this sounds hardcore. I think I heared that job Korea is also pretty tough.
Great vid guys! 😋
I guess they will not be fired 6 months later because the company found someone cheaper. That's the crude reality in my country. They want engineers and pay peanuts.
I (used to) work in the IT field, as a Systems & Networks Technician, and my longest job has been 13 months. It was quite an achievement to exceed 1 year.
I used the past tense, because now it's virtually impossible to get employed when you're 48, since IT recruiters do not hire anyone over 35 over here.
How terrible, but I hope things get better for you.
@@cauadebiasi It's sad. Age discrimination is a big thing here. The worst part is that IT technicians here in Spain get less than France/Germany/UK minimum wage.
Rest assured. Japanese company doesnt work that way
Francisco Javier Crespo what country is that?
@@ML-gc2fi probably the us
its not about japan, its the same on other countries, depends on company value
I don't know too many that pressure you to dye your hair...
Agree. Most multinationals have a similar standard over the countries.
最初の右の女の人やはり話し方からして優秀だなと思う。こういう人がはやく就活終わらせるのかなって思う。
Love the video edit at @6:05 lol you got it Cathy Cat ;)
In IT its important that you continue to develop and update your knowledge. So in sweden for your own professional development and a higher wage you move on in like 5-10 years or sooner if you are a consultant. Also Swedish workers have high requirements when it comes to place of work, so companies offer things like more vacation time, free courses, payed for terminal glasses, an hour each week for doing some physical training and more. And if the company don't treat us with respect we say fuck you and move on. It's become a little problem though because companies more and more move onto the cloud like AWS or Azure and outsource the operations part to companies who have employees in countries with workers who demand less. Maybe we should adopt the Japanese law that says you have to employ Japanese people unless you have a damn good reason why it can't be done by a Japanese.
Lifetime work is not real anymore,when economy slows down you may get the boot like everyone else.
In Canada its easy,
I Go to Employment centre or look up jobs on Internet
Then called employer looking for workers in my trade
And always was told to come to work tomorow or no we dont need anyone
lifetime work DOES exist, just not in your country
Your subtitles never work for downloads
damn hard process. Me as a graphic designer hired in San Francisco last 2017, in just 30 minutes interview take place during breaktime in starbucks hehhehe! Only 3 questions, give your online portfolio, since when i became graphic, designer and lastly the most hardest of all the questions when will i start hahhahahha!
wow never heard about it. Feels interesting.
How about you? How did you get your job?
Those looking for jobs in Japan don’t know other countries job hunting, which makes them think it’s normal. However, it is totally wrong and unfit for most Japanese ppl
I’m Japanese and now I’m on the job hunting.
I haven’t gotten any offer yet and I’m so depressed
Can I ask do Japanese women take non-traditional jobs. The state I lived in had program whereby women trained as plumbers,auto mechanics, construction 🚧, roofers many are doing very well esp the plumbers. Are women even allowed
@@johnsomn2148
In Japan, few women take those kinds of job. There are more men in such industries
So many stupid rules I would never care about as an employer. Too much of a hassle.
Ayyyy Famm this is lit!!!🔥
all job hunting is hard ? if a guy want to work in a small store supermarket ?
Not all, just the big and prestigious companies.
日本語能力高くないと見知らぬ日本人にインタビューなんかできないと思うのでこれはこれで大変な事ですね
It worse here in NYC
Do women take non-traditional jobs,like plumbers, auto mechanics,construction are they even allowed to train in non-traditional jobs
I would rather start up and make a living through a UA-cam channel..... Be your own boss!!
A few years ago the french version of TIME mag featured an article about the job culture in Japan. A twenty-nine years old divorced woman with a kid said she became a freelance precisely to self-rule and to have more flexible hours.
If you go to a decent level of university and look clean and tidy and have a certain level of communication skills, your job hunting will be easy in Japan.
are you from Japan ?
Lunatic _ yeah and I finished job hunting last month
It is utter bullshit that without a university degree you can’t get anywhere in Japan. I met tons on university graduates that are as dumb as a rock.
@@theshadowman1398 yea pathetic right? very common in asia
@@SomeOnce9 common everywhere else. and ive met high school graduates making more than uni grads by doing their own business
Well, I would say it's similar for some of the company in Malaysia. I myself need to go through 3 stages on interviews not including 3 more stages before that which includes math test, english test, typing test, phone interviews, characteristics test and etc before landing with the job i'm currently in. However, it's common for us to jump to another company within few years for a better payroll.
i learned that when going to a job interview, i should wear a skirt :) and no pantsu :)
wear bike shorts lol
And i wanted to move there and get a job...HA!
I stand no fucking chance whatsoever.
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...........It's hard to find a job in Japan....!!!
Ah, pretzels
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hardest in the world? that can't be serious. In a country with pretty much zero unemployment, oh yeah how difficult can be.
Those two things are not necessarily correlated. Just because they have low unemployment does not negate the fact that the interviewing process/ job hunt is difficult.
It's easy to get a part time. Really hard to get a "real" earning job. So basically anyone can work but it wont necessarily be a good job with a nice salary
@@dren5810 well, I think it's difficult for good jobs, but for me a difficult job hunt would be not being able to find a job, not being even called in for an interview. I just dont think it can be defined as hardest in the world, but who knows.
@@vanessaruiz4705 oh I'm sure they were being hyperbolic. Job hunting is difficult every where, the difference is the hoops you have to jump through varies from country to country.
Pretty much zero unemployment? Japan has a rate of 2.5% of unemployed people. That's almost 2 million people in Japan.
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Man, that's just ridiculous...Well, this is discouraging... :-/
I would like to work as a doctor on Japan, that's possible? :'v
you'll likely have to get a Japanese diploma. No chance they'd recognize a foreign one. I saw an ex-teacher turned Square Enix lead translator interview who said he had to restart college from scratch in Japan in order to get a position.
As Destroyer Inazuma said, you'd have to study everything again in Japan in Japanese. I know some guy who wanted to do that, but had to be fluent in Japanese first before studying everything again at university in Japan.
almost zero chance...Japan only wants cheap laborers & slaves.
lol joining a company for the rest of your life ,job mindset ,living fo the weekends ,being slave for money
That’s what most people do
@@ああ-p2e2i thats what most poor people do , rich people dont do that
ALI KIYOSAKI true but most people in the world work like that. Most people have to work to live.
@@ああ-p2e2i most people dont work like that, they think like that ,thats why they stay poor, working a job for the rest of their life
ALI KIYOSAKI most people work like that. Most people go to university to to study skills needed and demanded for companies such as computer science, engineering even if these majors are not what they wanted to study.
As a Japanese myself living in Germany, it's way harder here lol
It's not hard to do a job-hunting in Japan, it's the people who never thought about their future making it difficult.
Hello, could you please explain what is hard in germany? I thought it's much more difficult in JP
I would also like to know what makes it hard in Germany
Huh ? In Germany you apply, get an interview or two and you can start. And it does not take months.
@@theshadowman1398 In Spain you apply for 500 job offers, and never get an interview. The usual ratio is 200 applicants for 1 position.
I'm living in Germany and trying to get an offer in Germany or Japan. I'll give you an example of Deutchbank.
1. In Germany
Language- German, English
High GPA
Interviews
At least 6 months of internship
Web test for the intern
2. In japan
Language - Japanese, English
Test
Interviews
I feel like Germany's recruiting is a skill base but japan is a potential base.
They had to dye their hair? What the heck?
You HAVE to dye your hair an unnatural color in order to look "natural"...They'd better be paying well because dyeing your hair all the time costs and can permanently damage your hair without the right hair care products.
This just a part of your interview suit. The idea is to give yourself a more formal appearance.
Once your are in things can be quite different depending on the company and the work
responsibility. I used to work for a major Japanese company and most of my colleagues
had their hair dyed brown - sometimes with blond highlights. One young man even showed
up one day with bright orange hair. So it's not quite as bad as portrayed. The ones that do
have it bad are older folks. Having graying hair is definitely a bad thing.
Welcome to black company.
hardest? too easy, compared with other countries
You don’t know shit