Presidents Discuss Justinian the Great
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- Опубліковано 7 бер 2023
- Secret footage between Trump, Obama, and Biden discussing Justinian.
That Trump's yeet at the end is because I set his stability to 0 % so the AI voice sometimes starts to scream uncontrollably. I thought it was funny as hell so I decided to left that in.
Music: Crusader Kings II Soundtrack - The Byzantine Empire
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I know it’s not exactly popular, But in the end I’m really kinda agreeing with Donald here.
From one perspective, Justinian’s reign was a veritable golden age for the Byzantine Empire and the closest the east has ever gotten to reestablishing rule in the west post 476, but in hindsight, A lot of what Justinian did crippled the empire in terms of economy, Military, and diplomatic standing. Sure, The plagues had a lot to do with this decline too, But it really must be asked whether it’s wise to continue the imperial restoration project during the plague.
And speaking of said imperial restoration project, It was not only a failure in hindsight, But there are even contemporary sources like Cassiodorus’ Variae that speak of it as a fundamental paradigm shift for the Roman successor kingdoms. Before Justinian’s wars, many of the new kingdoms operated by Roman law, Precedent, And institutions. They called themselves Roman, And they swore suzerainty to the eastern emperor.
Now, wether or not these kings were sincere in their commitments is a whole different discussion, But still. The Mediterranean world still operated by a commonwealth-Esque framework with Eastern Rome as its head. Justinian destroyed this by redefining what a Roman actually is, And invading multiple Germanic kingdoms. For as much as people praise the recon quest of Italy, It was really a glorified Byzantine colony, A backwater.
Justinians peace with the Persians was impermanent
His conquests were more detrimental and were almost immediately undone anyways
In light of the plague, He made the wrong decisions
The treasury was left greatly diminished
Is it any wonder that the empire would soon undergo massive reforms under Heraclius and become the Byzantine state we know today? Justinian was a great ruler, don’t get me wrong. But there’s a reason why he’s seen as the last gasp of Roman greatness, Because he gambled everything on a poorly timed and iffy restoration campaign. I’d say his greatest achievement would be making the comprehensive legal code.
I don't think the point of the video was to make a legit argument but rather to try to mock the personalities giving it.
@@volbound1700it can and IS Both. Funny but largely true.
Well, either way it is over
not sure if true, but i've read somewhere that the invading germanics in Italy were assimilating quite well. Justinian wrecked the stability of the area and undid the economic and social recovery that was undergoing.
@@pokeshark yes and no, and I’m glad you raised that question because it’s immensely fascinating.
So after Odoacer deposed Romulus Augustulus in 476, and he himself got deposed by the Ostrogoths who were backed by the Eastern Roman Emperor Zeno, Italy was ruled by a Germanic Ostrogothic ruling class. However, The people, laws, infrastructure, and institutions were still Roman. It’s not like after they conquered the territory, The people suddenly spoke a different language, Walked different roads, And followed new laws. Many of these people were still alive during the reign of Majorian, or the invasions of the Huns, and the oldest among them would have been alive during the reign of Honorius and the sack of Rome by the goths.
Not only were the people the same, But the institutions were also the same. If you read Boethius’ “the Consolation of Philosophy”, you hear him speak a lot about the Roman senate, Which was still a political class that resides in Italy during the reign of Ostrogothic king Theoderic. And theoderic himself claimed he was ruling Italy as an imperial Fief for the eastern empire, Inheriting the position Odoacer claimed where “there is simply no need for a western emperor, We will rule Italy on behalf of the eastern emperor”
This was not an isolated case either, So many of the Roman successor kingdoms got their start from claiming legitimacy from the east. King Clovis of the Frankish kingdom would famously convert to orthodoxy and gather territory through conquering Arian Christian lands, the Kingdom of Burgundy had a Roman constitution, and Mauritania would claim to be the inheritors of Rome.
This political arrangement of multiple independent states working in a dejure sort of concord with one another and shared common institutions and fictions would be called the “roman commonwealth” by Tom holland. This would come to an end in Italy due to the imperial restoration project taken by Justinian, which not only resulted in the invasion of Italy by the Lombards, who were vastly different in ruling style and law from the Ostrogoths, But the justification for the conquest itself reinforced and established an idea that all of a sudden, The Ostrogothic Kingdom that had Roman laws, Roman peoples, Roman towns, And Roman classes was suddenly “not Roman” according to the East, so now, What were they? Many other kingdoms started to grapple with these questions and now all of a sudden, They weren’t Roman, And sought their destiny away from the east.
The fall of the Roman Empire should not be understood as a singular event, rather it should be understood as a series of events, A sequential timeline of developments that gradually chipped away at Rome until something completely new was left in its place.
Even the Byzantine empire, Which many have lauded as the true Rome (not wrongfully) was immensely different after the reign of Heraclius. And by the reign of the Macedonian dynasty, utterly unrecognizable. It’s still, technically, Rome, But it’s something entirely new as well
I must be a total nerd, but I found this absolutely hilarious
word this shit is fire tho id listen to a hour podcast of this.
Nerd humour is best humour
I'm one too because I laugh too hard at this. Tried sending it to friends and they were just confused asking when the president did this...
@@basicinbox2953 LOL
me too
Bill: "I agree with my wife."
10/10 line from Bill Clinton.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
"... who broke the glass ceiling and got to the top."
"Unlike you."
Far more savage than anything that happening in Justinian's time.
In a sea of great moments that stood out LMAO.
Next level
This is surprisingly well done, some future historian will be confused
History major here, we already have to check thousands of sources and question their authenticity. I'm scared and already confused, don't worry. But this... is amazing.
There will be a new topic for historian, to differentiate real historical sources from fake meme sources
Lol, it got me pretty confused to be honest
🤣🤣🤣...this is fucking HILARIOUS!!!
@@ernestov1777 just immagine, 800 years from historians will be debating justinian reign, one historian will pull " i have found sources of several presidents of a nation called usa debating how good justinians rule was and we can get a lot of info from there" antoher will reply " but this debate happened 1500 years after his rule, we cant be sure how credible this source is"
"You would know that bettter than me, HUSSAIN" These little details are so damn good lmao
That was savage as ****!
“Those are not Mosques, those are Minarets.”
“You would know that better than me Hussein.”
🤣
"Justininian" had me actually howling, such a good detail
Tbh that was just a typo that I was too lazy too change at some point. :D
@@TominusMaximus Aw man; I thought it was an intentional slip-up 😄
@@TominusMaximus It's funny how it actually works to make it better lol
@@TominusMaximus it works better this way tho
@@TominusMaximus it calls a "divine intervention"
You know I would think Trump would be one of those who were pro-Justinian and saw himself in him, but the way this was set up it was absolutely brilliant and hilarious!
Why you did you think that
@@chideraalexanderdex547
Well because Justinian is a sort of ‘’make Rome great again’’ kind of guy and it would make sense to me that Trump would identify himself with Justinian.
But the criticisms he gave of Justinian was very much in Trump’s character, bad deals with Iran, pointless foreign wars etc. so I think the video was well done
@@sirnilsolav6646 yeah exactly, trump will never liken himself to a guy who made any kind of deal that could be seen as appeasement(especially to a middle eastern power) and whose reign wasn't immaculate and whose wars weren't a spectacular success
I believe his favorite 'make Rome great again guy' would be Aurelian
Actually saved and held onto the empire (Rome remained roman for about two centuries more whereas Justinian lost Rome and most gains immediately), spectacular success upon spectacular success, conquered the enemies in the middle east without making any sort of deal, was very unfairly treated(murdered, in Donald's mind his own treatment by the media and an assassination are more or less same level of unfair treatment) and who he could claim 'if Aurelian had lived blah blah blah' plus 'restorer of the world' is certainly a title trump will most likely want to attach himself to
@@chideraalexanderdex547 Aurelian failed where Justinian succeeded
@@rockstar450 that's untrue
I'm right with AI Trump through it all except when he called Belisarius a loser. Belisarius was a gigachad.
Fr. I allowed and tolerated the Justinian criticism, but I lost it when he talked crap about Belisarius. Good video
even when he said that 'the art of the deal' was better?
Trump is representing the old dated view that Justinian was bad, which is now virtually debunked.
wat about that getting cucked by ur step son thing
Was a cuck though
Hillary coming to the defense of Theodora was great comedic timing 10/10
I can’t stand her and she’s pure 🗑️ but Hilary is no 304, unlike Theodora and Belisarius’s wife.
"I agree with my wife."
-Uncle Bill
You would know better than me, Hussein
jajaja the best part
These videos are fun and all but I gotta admit the way Trump bursts at 1:55 is SCARILY realistic, his inflection on the word "German" made me laugh out loud and then stop for a moment
Can't trust the native populace to be exploited bwithout them revolting, solution import Germans to replace them and serve as mercs, result not so good.
The way he doesn't care he's attacking his own family
"Rome ended in 476 everything afterward was a joke!" - Trump 2023
"The Byzantine Empire, stop being politically correct Joe"
That politically correct part was grand 😂
he’s not wrong
@@tsurugi5 he definitely is bruh
@@tsurugi5 If that's what you think then Rome fell with Commodus, not in 476
I'm not sure what's better: this jewel, or knowing from the comments that there are humans like me who enjoy this.
Both, heh
BOTH
Both
Yeah this really is a masterpiece
Both
This is a absolute masterpiece. Whoever made this needs a raise.
It was an ai bro
That's actually a great material for kids, to make them learn, make it funnier and easier to comprehend.
I agree, having taught 7th grade ( the kids loved Justinian and especially Theodora ) . However , the language would probably get me fired in our current time.
@@wehosrmthink7510 As a student in pedagogics and a future teacher I do know what you are talking about.
The way Obama had to keep jumping in to correct Biden was hilarious
"Theadora was a control freak, something you are familiar with bill ?" fucking genius
“You would know that better than me Hussein” I’m rolling on the floor here
That was magical.
This is so good, glad you're back.
Edit: I just visited Hagya Sophia today, what a lovely coincidence.
You seen the mosques?
@@TominusMaximus yes! Badly the Blue Mosque was temporarily closed and as hagia sophia is no longer a museum all christian images are covered :( and no acces to the second floor...
@@ElLudens Shame that Hagia got covered up. Been to some of the most impressive churches and mosques and the thought of those two styles blending together would be a sight. Got myself a shia praying stone from the Umayyad Mosque when I visited that I treasure deeply.
@hamter_mental_counselling yh f that guy
@@johan8969 >got myself a shia praying stone from the umayyad mosque
The absolute irony in this statement i can’t even fathom how a shia stone got there to begin with
Knowing Trump's personality I think he'd like Justinian. Hilarious stuff though. Can you make one for Constantine?
I'd love to hear what each would have to say about the dissolution of the praetorian guard.
Which Constantine?
To Trump Justinian was like George W
@@MrDalek2150 Constantine I the Great
At first they would seem similar (make Rome great again), but they are actually very, very different when you think about it. Justinian wants to unite all the ethnicities and tribes under an empire. Trump isn't a Neocon. He doesn't like multinational empires; he doesn't like globalism. Also Justinian was in favor of a strong government, and big taxes. Trump hates big gov and big taxes.
As a history buff, this is just magnificent. Just beautiful.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing
This is the funniest video I’ve seen all year. The “Build Back Better” and “Egyptian Virus” had me cackling
The art of the deal is better than Justinian law reform jajshajsjahajaj I died so many times jajahDhF
make this into a series
"who broke the glass ceiling and got to the top"
"unlike you"
ahahaha
didnt Knew Trump is Related to Procopius. but hes even worse because he even hates belisarius.
Procopius despised Belisarius also for being controlled by his wife
Procopius ripped Belisarius a new one
@@v4enthusiast541 Proctopius ;)
Procopius would have run Breitbart today and have his very own show on Fox News
Procopius said that Belisarius' wife was fucked by geese. Although he said the same about Theodora. I guess it was normal back then
1:19 "Unlike you" Comedy gold
"They're called minarets, not mosques."
"You would know that better than me, Hussein." 😂😂😂
Justinian also launched the Gothic Wars which utterly devastated Italy and then didnt even rebuild Rome and Belisarius ended the Consulate and most Pratorians of the Senate would not survive the wars.
It was the Gothic COUNTER attack that destroyed Italy, not the Roman reconquest. This stupid argument also ignore the plague and collapse of trade over the past decades which had also caught up with Italy. The fact the south of Italy held for centuries and it took Phocus and the Arabs to unseat them anywhere else shows the conquest was a resounding success. I'm sure if we had a secret history on Trajan he'd have mixed reviews too
The First Italian campaign did very little damage to Southern & Central Italy. It was only the north that suffered. The Gothic counter-attack is what destroyed all of Italy. Plus the plague didn't help matters in the slightest
@@rockstar450 The only reason the Gothic counter attack happened because Justinian recalled Belisarius from finishing his conquest of Italy in one campaign.
So it's Justinian fault for for the devastation if Italy.
@Alejandro Maldonado so Justinian was meant to allow the Persian betrayal to keep taking the rich ERE holdings to secure Italy? That makes no sense. Regarding the rotation of generals, even Belasarius would have understood why. It's because alternatives create discontent, not because of fear of betrayal as Justinian kept fielding him. Without the plague they would have been able to comfortably reinforce and cement Italian control since they still retained so much even with the plague
@Alejandro Maldonado also, the lombards wouldn't have devastated the Goths if they weren't there? The hindsight on this is insane. Plus Italy was a dump outside the capital cities around this time due to the economic collapse. Population says it all. Don't buy into this internet nonsense when the archaeology is showing how difficult the time really was and how Justinian's administration held true, even in the new holdings
This is the funniest thing I’ve seen in a while
Lmao I lost it at Bill Clinton swiftly coming in and saying "I agree with my wife"
Lmao I love this specifically
Damn trump must've read precopius' secret history
Please keep making these! These are so good.
Trump... "German immigrants"... 🤣🤣🤣
Trump has been reading Procopius' secret histories and Gibbons rise and fall
This totally made my day. I literally laughed out loud through most of it!
Instant gold
Top 5 Roman Emperor, Justinian's reputation is only improving as archaeology uncovers the natural challenges that his excellent administration and vision held together.
On top of that, he built hagia sophia
@@constantine11 secret history go brrrrrrtt
Justinian is the perfect example of how a great leader can still screw everything up. Should have been content just taking N. Africa and Sicily, and leaving Italy as a de facto client state.
@Christopher Brielman that's ridiculous, the Italian conquest brought tax and strengthened maritime trade for centuries. Not only did it MAKE a tonne of money, it kept Byzantium relevant with the papacy for centuries providing some key diplomatic opportunities. It was the Gothic counter attack that ruined Italy, which was the Romans retaking their own territory lost only decades ago, so the whole "Belasarius razed Italy" is just anti-ERE cope. Justinians holdings survived a mini-iceage and the plague and the overall stability is proof it wasn't blind luck. It took Phocus AND the Arabs to lose the territory. Also, Italian holdings stood until the Normans... hardly fleeting. Mic drop
@@CMVBrielman they didn't even pay tribute so it was a better choice to conquer them
This is awesome and a great way to get complex historical events across in language that is relatable to us in the present day.
One of the better ones. Sounds just like Biden, Trump, and Obama.
"Unlike you" XD I'm dying here
please do more of these. fantastic.
This is amazing. Great work
I am tempted to use this as a part of history lesson. :D
Trump on this one was so f*cking based
Wrong.
Wrong.
L Take
Very based.
He is correct that Justinian is overrated and spread the Empire too thin. He wasted tons of money on temporary gains, accelerating the collapse of the Byzantine Empire
„You would know that better than me, Hussain“ 😂
This was just amazing, you gained a sub
yooooo wassup
rare mattia sighting
Absolutely brilliant.
I need more of this.
Bruh nice name. 😂
“You would know that better than me Hussein” - Trump
Beautiful. All history videos should be like this. Make more!
I feel like this needs to be a series. Hilarious!
lol this is brilliant. Obama constantly stepping in to help Biden along, in the lack of a teleprompter. And you nailed Trump.
Please do more of these!
"You would know that better than me, Hussein." 😂
Now this is what I call quality content!
The Egyptian virus 😂😂😂
This is one of the funniest video in this channel and probably much more.
Currently vacationing in Italy, and this content couldn’t be more appropriate
As a history nerd and someone who's not completely cut off from politics yet, this is amazing. Thank you.
Please tell me which AI has been used to create this masterpiece
Elevenlabs
@@TominusMaximus nice
Really well done!! Kudos, sir!
This is so enjoyable!
W content as usual
It's insane that you can control tone of these boxes. You clearly tell that Biden is "reading from the teleprompter" from his normal "voice" plus the way trump bursts out in anger and the little snide comments he inserts in, how the fuck is this possible! This is legitimately so insane, imagine the applications this could have
This’ is great, dude! Keep ‘em coming hahaha!
Donald has been reading a lot of Procopius obviously
I badly want to see a Napoleonic Era for something like this 😂
Simply Magnificent.
The best Presidents AI sim by far
Oh my word! I loved aloud at this.
I love it!
Very good, 10/10
"unlike you"---pure gold!
Wow AI catching like wildfire. Pretty dangerous.
My friend you have just created a masterpiece! Congrats are not enough haha! Keep these videos coming!
Trump is right and the others are wrong, pretty much like in real life. I loled at the part where he blasts Hillary with that "unlike you" and at the Hussein part.
The only problem here is Obama agreeing to taxes being too high.
This is too good!
Uncannily accurate! Bravo!
Justinian is my favorite Byzantine Emperor and I loved this video :D
lol sounds like joe bidden if his brain was finally working
This is some of the best stuff I’ve seen on UA-cam
This is an absolute masterpiece
As a Medieval History student: I love this video.
Trump was the funniest
“You would know that better than me, Hussein”
Lmao
This is so well done ! History teacher speaking here.
Biden W for defending Belisarius
cmon trump, there were stinky advisors and generals that made the ostrogoth war fail, belisarius even worked through that to capture what he did; yeah the eternal peace was a bad deal, but even if it bought 20 years it would be a big help
we need more of this please
More of these. Please
Amazing! All history freaks salute you!
I actually learned a lot from this... I never knew that stuff about Justinian
One of the greatest emperors
This was gold. I love hisyory, and I love these kinds of memes
We need more of this.
Amazingly accurate