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Garmin Fenix 7 Pro In-Depth Review: Clever Upgrades!
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- Here's everything you need to know about the Fenix 7 Pro series, including the Fenix 7S, Fenix 7 Pro, and Fenix 7X Pro. Buy the Fenix 7 Pro here (amzn.to/46mAHha), link helps support the channel!
If you wanted a Fenix 7 series device with the flashlight of the Fenix 7X series, you’ve finally got your wish. With the new Fenix 7 Pro series, all three size Fenix 7 Pro units include a flashlight. And atop that, every model now has multiband GNSS/GPS, and every model has 32GB of storage. And every model now has solar. Sure, there’s still the fancier sapphire-crystal models if you want them, but the only difference between the different Fenix 7 Pro series units are the cosmetic/material differences (or battery between sizes), not features or functions internally. In addition to those hardware upgrades, the Fenix 7 Pro series also gains a new optical heart rate sensor package and updated MIP display for better low-light conditions, plus a few new software metrics including a Hill Score and Endurance Score.
Of course, it’s not just the new Fenix 7 Pro series that’s been announced today, but also the new three-sized Epix Pro units as well. These include Garmin’s fancier AMOLED display, as well as also featuring a flashlight across all models. Check out that in-depth review too!
0:00 Quick Overview
0:35 Models and pricing
1:29 The New Flashlight & Comparisons
2:39 New Optical HR Sensor
3:15 Can it do ECG?
4:36 Next Gen MIP Display
5:52 Battery Life
6:11 Multiband GNSS/GPS
6:48 Endurance Score Tested!
8:39 Hill Score Tested (Hard!)
9:51 Live Map Weather Overlays
10:48 Mapping Shaded Relief
12:02 30+ New Sport Profiles
13:12 New Split-Map Data Page
13:20 New Perimeter-Map Data Page
13:31 New UI Features
13:54 Software Updates for existing watches!
14:20 Included Maps & 32GB of Storage Sizes
15:00 Accuracy Testing (GPS/HR/Elevation)
17:04 Worth it?!
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Great review! As someone who just got a Fenix 7x Solar Sapphire about a month before the Fenix 7 Pro was announced, I appreciate knowing that I am not missing out on a whole lot.
Massively impressive that you found an 8000ft hill in The Netherlands 🇳🇱 Chapeaux!!
I snatched a Fenix 7 Sapphire solar deal at $580 new just two weeks ago. Fenix 7 Sapphire solar has all I need and saves $320.
Wow where
Where did you find that price
Bought a 7x recently...great watch. The flashlight is the BEST tool ever, I have to say. However, i find it somewhat annoying that shortly after buying new stuff your piece of equipment 'feels' outdated...anyone thinks the same? Thx Ray as usual for your vid!
Same here, I hope Garmin also notices this because it is quite confusing. It can be said that it is a "Chinese" model, with quite some manufacturers you can discover untraceable names and variations, as well as feature updates.
I found my 6X has been able to keep up for quite some time,contrary to my 3HR and 5X that I upgraded within a year of having them but Iv had my 6X for 3 years now. I might upgrade to an epix 2 pro or 7x pro next year when the prices have dropped but don't feel the immediate need to change it just yet.
Thank you Garmin for saving me a grand this year 😅
How so?
How?
@@JaySubi53 don’t have to upgrade from my fénix 7x sapphire
@@ibby81ae don’t have to upgrade from my fénix 7x sapphire
Oh I know it. But I like pretty things. Kinda like a new iPhone each year. But, besides the HRM there is nothing really new and I will get the rest via software
Tuesday, 17 October 2023, 6:03 am CDT
Garmin expands ECG App to additional smartwatches, including its flagship epix Pro and fēnix 7 Pro series
FDA-cleared and clinically-validated app lets even more Garmin customers record an ECG and check for signs of atrial fibrillation right from their smartwatch
I upgraded mostly for the display. The regular 7x display is/was horrible to use outside. The glare was was a huge oversight from my 6x pro. Overall I just like having the most up to date features since this is the one thing that I use literally every single day and it tracks and does so much health wise. I look at it as an investment in staying healthy.
I got the 7X ss on sale a month and a half ago. 5 days before the return window expired, the price of the pro dropped enough for me to return it and get the 7X ss pro. I think it's a little better in all aspects. I feel like the flashlight is brighter, but I can't find any documentation on it. I kind of miss the Black DLC though.
Thank You for the Auto Backlight suggestion. .My Fenix is MUCH Better now!😮 WHO Knew turning it OFF would make such a difference in overall Brightness😮
Thanks!
I’m going from an instinct solar to a fenix 7 pro solar. I’m excited
As a more casual user (I like tracking stuff but I'm not a big competitor) it looks like the fancy maps and improved screen clarity are the most tempting. I went with an Instinct 2X recently since I don't currently have a use for the maps, so it's probably not worth me returning this and spending an extra $350 for the fenix 7 pro, but man this looks nice
I have the 6pro. Screen is absolutely fine, wouldn't upgrade for that. The better HRM on wrist and better GPS though, that's actually useful.
Lost my fenix 5 last weekend while surfing. Caught up in break and not sure if strap broke or unclipped (was tumbling underwater trying not to hit my head). Went for an impulsive buy today and the 7 pro sapphire solar titanium was on offered and scored. So many new features compared to the 5, thanks so much for the great explanation as always
The same thing happened to me on a surf trip in Indonesia last week, lost my 6 Pro in the water, so now looking at upgrading!
How do you like this as a surf watch? I’m using an Apple Watch at the moment, but a single surf session almost completely drains the battery. Considering upgrading to a Fenix 7 pro sapphire if I can find a good deal
@Nocean831 I had the 6 Pro previously and it was a good surf watch, battery lasts forever. I've got the Epix Gen 2 now and the battery is not as good, if I had my time over I'd have bought the Fenix 7 Pro.
I wish they would make something like an Fenix 7 pro crossover. The awesome features of the Fenix combined with some more classical look. Or at least something else with hands, solar and a flashlight...
Yeah a fancy fenix hybrid watch would be an instant buy for me.
Sounds like you want the Marq. Way out of my price range for a spiffy last gen Fenix but they market that to rich people who care what their watch looks like.
Just ordered mine today upgrading from my 3 year old Garmin instinct solar ready for my triathlon.
I’ve had my instinct for 4 years and it’s still going strong but it was time to finally upgrade to something more advanced, went with a 7 sapphire solar.
@@RLS_91 nice, I hope you got in on sale I think it’s a couple hundred dollars off for Labor Day weekend. I wish I would’ve waited lol.
Perfect hill strength score! Thanks for the amazing content : ) It's nice to know how this devices perform on a high level athlete, because I'm never getting there :D
I just ordered a 7 Pro and it should arrive in a few days. If you have Anthem health insurance, you can likely get a 20% discount in the discounts section of their web portal. This is to replace a Fenix 5 Plus. I debated Epix vs Fenix for a long time and decided that I just appreciate long battery life over the display and hope that technology will give me both in a future model.
i have the garmin mach 1 and freakn loving it over others! yes no solar but i think it has all the features the fenix 7 has plus aviation measurements.
Great review as always Ray! Appreciate the deep, practical dive into the new metrics, particularly the endurance score (so useful for triathletes). Curious, was there any indication that the software features will be available later on the 265 or the 965?
I went from a fitbit, to a Huawei Watch Gt to a Vivoactive to a Fenix 7 Solar and the closest to it is the Huawei watch Gt. But I love the Fenix 7 and I'm thrilled with the purchase. Worth every cent
Bahaha how hard have you been going w the new F7Pro?! That bezel is beat up! Haha. Awesome awesome review - you hit everything so damn well w great personal feedback on the value of each. Super super helpful
I see your are enjoying hiking in the Calanques, very good choice!
Indeed, a great place!
Exactly the vid I was looking for, thanks a lot!
As a fenix 6 pro user. I think this is worth the upgrade now
Perhaps it's better to wait for the Fenix 8, it shouldn't be too long until they announce it.
@@freezak3864 The touch screen, solar, new sensor, possible EKG, battery life, minor screen improvement and flashlight are enough for me!
As a person who has done some long distant hiking, but not in a race format I would say 34K with 8,000 ft elevation in 8 hours is moving at a serious pace......maybe you are expert level, you just don't know it yet. :-)
Hahah, thanks!
Excellent video as always. Keep them coming… 🏴
10:30 That is because you really are a pro athlete and a pro youtuber!
Hahaha!
I really like the new shaded Topo maps, on my 6x pro it can sometimes take a moment to differentiate what im looking at. The shading will go a long way to improving that (and making the digital map line up more with my paper topo maps i carry hiking)
I'm also glad they brought the light down to smaller sizes and the Epix, gives more options in the future. I probably won't downsize from an X, but now with the Fenix, Epix and Instinct all available in the larger size with a flashlight my options have expanded significantly.
I also like the split Map/data data field now, I can put my elevation and map data on the same page and reduce the count of pages to scroll through while hiking. Nice.
Oh man I wish I had waited for the Pro. Thanks for the awesome review.
this is great. thanks.
Im still on the fence between the fenix 7 pro saphire solar and the forerunner 955 solar
the 300 bucks doesnt bother me, because I know these watches last for ever (i had my forerunner 920xt for 7 years and I just lost it).
my only concern is the extra weight the fenix 7 has compare to the forerunner.
do you notice the difference?
I would coming from a 60g watch to a 70g,
thanks
Thank you for the informative review. What would you choose between the 7x Pro and the Epix Pro ?
Ahh yes! I can finally track my Table Tennis Squash games!
That perimeter data field looks very useful. Hope they bring it to my 7x soon 🤞
Thanks for the video buddy. Very useful!
very incremental upgrades, as always. Still no magic feature that would make upgrade from Fenix 5, but I guess good news for new buyers - they're very good devices.
If you don't already want to upgrade from a F5, I think you'll never want to 😊
I am probably upgrading my fenix 5 to a Forerunner 965. :)
@@fulldaywork4200 why not for the tactix 7 pro why the forerunner 965
@@BarbaryStudio Amoled. :)
@@fulldaywork4200 epix all so have amoled
Been waiting for this one!!! Awesome!
Football,at last!!! Hope Garmin'll move it to my F7.
great review. i hope you will have comparison with Enduro 2 as I can see it was left behind in features and specs.
It gets all the same firmware updates.
thanks a lot for the review I do around 131k feet/year of mountain hiking but since I started going on more exposed alpine trails that overhang cliff GPS problem destroys 9/10 of my gpx very annoying especially since I'm never going back to most of them
With the overhang, the concern may be less that satellites are shaded than reflections of the signal from the overhang leading to positioning errors.
Garmin really needs a trade in program. I love my 955. There's no way I'm upgrading for a long time.
I have also FR955... Seems that I would lose even skin temperature if upgrading...
Thanks for your awesome videos. 🙏🏼
Hi, Ray. I have looked EVERYWHERE and can't find an answer to this so here is your chance to be a REAL LEGEND. Is there a way to set the watch on navigation to head up instead of north up so the arrow always faces up like a typical sat nav? It's sending me crazy because I just can't get away with the map stuck in leave and having to sort out where I am. Thanks in advance
🔥🏆🔥 Best tech pro user review I've seen.
It's now January 2024, so I'm waiting for the Fenix 8X Pro....will be great for K2
Great review as always! Would love to see the AWU in the comparisons :)
love the outro music!
Great review!, Finally worthy upgrade to my Forerunner 745, already ordered!, Hopefully they'll add the ECG ability soon.
Much difference? I have 745 thx
I liked this review a lot. I am not the target audience for a garmin sports smartwatch, since I haven't done any kind of sports in the last 12 years due to injured knees. But I am looking for a good smartwatch with gps and solar powered. Sadly, the solar powered feature dramatically reduces the amount of smartwatches. It seems like I may be stuck with a watch that is wasted on me from a sports perspective, but I reaaaaally don't want to charge my watch every 3 days...
Ideally I would want a mix between the fenix 7 pro and the upcoming smartwatch galaxy 7 classic.
Thanks man really appreciate it u r the best . Can u talk more about the maps and shading?
Hi, great review.
I noticed you've been in the Netherlands?
Love the watch and its new features. Unfortunately pretty high priced.
Thanks for the effort of making the video.
Bas
Thanks! Yup, I've been living in the Netherlands for about 5 years now. :)
I still think that it's crazy that sapphire isn't standard by now. It's not that much more expensive to manufacture.
That's why it's only 100 more. Not that much more expensive bit more expensive nonetheless
@@seekdiscomfort4746 a sapphire crystal costs like $30 to buy loose for other watches so it's probably more like $5 for Garmin. An extra $100 is way too much.
I just buy a screen protector, which is 25 times cheaper than buying a sapphire version.
@@Matheologia Yeah, that's also a good solution. 👍
there's no need to make it a standard when the other cheaper option works just fine for both the manufacturer and the consumer.
Any chance your wife can review the Fenix and Epix Pro 42mm watches? Id love to see what she thought about how battery life compares when used in testing considering the estimates are much lower. Thanks for your videos, they’re great!
I have a Fenix 7s Sapphire solar(42mm)I bought last week. I’m 5 days into the battery and I’m at 55%. I have done 3 x 1hr mountain biking using gps. The watch has been indoors except for the 3 hours mountain biking where it got some sunshine to add a bit of charge, so it looks like 10 days on a charge should be possible.
thanks for the review. amazing like always. most probably the Pro version is the model to go in 2024
Does it finally track naps with the new elevate 5 sensor? Or is sleep tracking still bad?
Great question. I doubt it does.
Hmm..looking on those battery stats, the ONLY reason for the Fenix against the Epix now seems to be the Solar support - or did I miss something? The biggest argument FOR the Fenix always was battery time. And yes, maybe readability in direct sunlight. Is there anything I missed?
Ditto
Yes, Amoled is useless when mounted on a handlebar for cycling. Or when rowing or paddle boarding. And battery estimates by Garmin are way too optimistic. The 965 lasts 12 hours max if following a course with AOD off, 2 sensors and Sat IQ. I sent it back and I'll get the 7 Pro.
@@paranoidandroid77 Yes, recommended when using direct mount at handlebars. It´s far better then AMOLED.
@@paranoidandroid77amoled is also useless if you swim in open water under the sun because the watch doesn't recognize the gesture to turn the wrist so that the default's luminosity is too weak to read something.
Thank you. Can’t decide 7X Pro or 7X Pro with sapphire. I’m seeing comments about sapphire screen scratching. If that’s the case might as well go regular 7X Pro.
My enduro 2 is still holding up
Great review! Thanks.
I wonder if this new generation MIP display really brings back a little life to the visibility of the Fenix compared to the incredibly dull Fenix 7 solar, especially if also sapphire... Can't really tell from the video.
Since you are in contact with Garmin... Please ask for a 7x pro NON solar, NON sapphire, and possibly if they can use the space now wasted by the solar ring for additional screen real estate. They could bring to the market the first 1.6" display sport watch without even changing the case or the hazel!! And get me one free of charge for the revolutionary idea 🤯
So true! I am rocking the Garmin 6X Pro and i am hesitant to upgrade due to the Solar and Sapphire "upgrades"
Love your reviews! thank you for all your imput! What is your everyday watch? Is there a pair of garmin that you could recommend for everyday usage? ....been watching your reviews from instinct 2 watches to fenix and I stil can't make up my mind and which watch to go with as the daily driver for averabe sport activity/durability and everyday phone connectivity?
Great review, thx. 😊 Does the soccer activity have specific timer? I mean it shows 90 min of play and not 1h 30min. It would be great for me as a soccer referee. Thx a lot. 😊
Garmin excels at releasing new products without fixing the bugs of the existing models…
as a fenix 7 solar user for the past 18 months or so.. seeing that flashlight feature on all the models now.. feeling a bit disappointed as that is a super useful feature that i foresee i can use on a daily basis rather than using the flashlight on a phone
Inline skating! Finally man!
When is Garmin Fenix 8 coming?😮😮
This is great news for existing Fenix 7 owners. @dcrainmaker when do these updates come to the Fenix 7 range? And also is there any news on when the onboard wrist based Running dynamics will also come to the Fenix range?
Whenever I've managed to prompt a software update and download, I still seem to be on the version 11.28.
Definitely. I’m not tempted to upgrade my Fenix 7s solar just for a light and AFib detection. Actually if I was still in the market I’d probably still go for the 7s rather than the 7s Pro as really don’t like the latter being only a silver bezel option and don’t want to stretch to the Sapphire models just for a 42mm watch with a grey bezel.
@@5mattcolour I have the Black DLC Titanium Sapphire Solar 7. I.e. all black.....was the same, didn't want a grey bezel.
Wrist-based running dynamics is already in the current betas. As for the rest of the new features to the existing Fenix 7, they were saying 'next' quarterly update, but it's a bit fuzzy to me if that's the one going live shortly, or one later this summer. Waiting on clarity. My suspicion in the sooner one, since the firmware is literally the same between Pro and non-Pro units (meaning my Pro units have the same firmware as the beta for non-Pro).
Same we're still on 11.28 😢
@@Dcrainmaker thank you for taking time to reply Ray! Yeah the wrist based RD has been on the cards for a while now, in Beta since March perhaps...so what you say makes sense...that will be an awesome feature drop/firmware update when it arrives. Keep up the great work Ray, been following you some years now and you really are the 'go-to' account 🤝
Ps. One other feature/profile that I would really love is "buggy running"... Obviously it can record some of these activities now such as badminton and other sports like football, but I would really love it if it could record with more accuracy when I'm out running with my buggy cadence steps, etc because my arm will no longer be moving as much.... Once the wrist based running dynamics actually comes to the F7. I will see how it records my runs and with what level of detail.
fenix 7 pro or epix pro? It seems that battery life in the epix is good enough for an amoled screen
So no LTE… it’s the one feature i find missing, especially since the (ever so slightly) lower tier forerunner series does have it.
Any thoughts on whether it’ll be coming to the next iteration?
Who knows really Garmin has to figure out a lot of things if they're going to add LTE especially battery life consumption is going to be a huge one
@Carrot Cruncher Honestly, what is the point of ECG in a watch? I go to my doctor for actual health stuff. Also, I don't need to take a call on my watch but I can understand getting into the habit of doing that.
Saving up for the Fenix 7 Pro. Moving from a Samsung Galaxy Watch 4. The Samsung simply not gonna survive long distance running...
So much tech this week... :)
On some Garmin older devices during Hiking, there is chart with distance in relation to how much i still have to climb during my trek. In older devices this chart only showed meters left to climb for overall trek. Im wondering if this device has also a support for local max? Like altitude in meters left to current peak?
Yup, what you're speaking of is ClimbPro, and my favorite feature. I didn't dive into it too much here since it's been around a while, but in my written review I talk/show it a bit more: www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/05/garmin-fenix-7-pro-in-depth-review-flashlight-and-multiband-for-everyone.html
Hi, great review as always. I'm curious, have you checked if the endurance score takes into account the activities recorded by other garmin devices, e.g. the edge counter?
Yes, it pulls in anything via Unified Training Status.
Good watch, garmin does bit offer to repair the devices. Even when you scratch the screen you can only hope for their goodwill. They offer refurbished watches in exchange for the broken ones, but at really steep price points. I think this policy makes only sense when the watch is really damaged or malfunctioning, but not when the screen is broken and the prices garmin charges are excessive. No more garmin for me!
Hi Ray! Love the content, thank you! Do the different 7 pro versions have different watch faces?
Can you do a comparison between this and the Enduro 2?
Hello, Can you please confirm if the compass on the new Pro models is also highly sensitive and affected by the movement of the strap? (Was this an issue with the seventh-generation models)
I'd love if you'd add chapters to these in depth reviews 🙂
Doh, fell off my plate. Adding…
@@Dcrainmaker thanks!
Will some of these features come to the FR 255/955 series (Endurance score, hill thing, etc)?
I doubt
955 still does not have double tap to zoom after 1 year, so I would not hold my breath
Will a fenix 7 pro charge from 0% by itself from the solar charging by sun?
No
Hi Ray. Thanks for the great review. Do you know if the new sport profiles, endurance score and hill score wil come to the forerunner 955 solar with future updates?
Yes, most all of it. Here's the full details on what exactly is being ported: www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/06/the-complete-list-of-all-epix-fenix-pro-features-going-to-fr955-965-fenix-7-epix.html
@Dcrainmaker thanks for a great review again.
Any news when Garmin is expecting to release the Descent MK3?
We desperately need an upgraded Descent mk3 😢
Great review, thanks Ray, a little disappointing if you've purchased a Fenix 7XSS for the flashlight & dual band
Not really, because you still have those features on your watch if that’s what you bought it for…
great video as always but I still don't know which should I buy ;)
This is a great view! I have Fenix 6 Pro, and it's screen is rock solid like my old Fenix 3 Pro. I would love to upgrade it to Fenix 7 Pro Solar. What can you tell about the screen? I hit my watch a lot of times here and there and no single scratch on the screen.
Hey DC, How does the 7X flashlight compare to the Enduro 2 now? Does the Enduro 2 still have the best battery life or has the 7X Pro matched it?
Thanks for your videos and time.
I just got my enduro 2, two weeks ago, and now I am thinking should I return and get an fenix 7 pro.
@@denisimos1why do u want to return it ? How much better is the current replacement?
Thanks for the great reviews! Any chance you’ve taken a look at the Descent mk2 line or have any information on the mk3 coming out?
Is there a way to start navigating a course from a different starting point (current position instead of course starting point) directly from the watch (without using gamin connect) thanks
My Fenix 5 has, after 4 years and 3 weeks from purchase, a real-world battery life of about 3 days now (100% to 0%), with 2x 35min jogging with GPS recording, the remainder just normal use as a watch, barely ever actively interacting with the watch (backlight off, turned on only via a keypress, gestures disabled, 8 sec timeout, 30% brightness).
Is this kind of *severe* battery lifetime degradation over time to be expected even with the Fenix 7 / Fenix 7 Pro, or did they switch to some more durable battery tech in the meantime?
Spending 500+ Eur (with the 7 Pro it will likely take a year to get down to around upper 500 / lower 600 Eur range) every 3-4 years seems a bit on the high side, for someone like me, who is using the smartwatch rather sporadically.
And btw, I never use the HR data from the Fenix 5 on any high intensity activity recording (anything over 80% HRmax) - it's just total rubbish in comparison with my Polar H10 HR belt. Typically the Fenix 5 HR data is down by 20-30 bpm from reality, making "near-max-effort" activities look like I was going out for an afternoon jog-and-talk.
Well there you go!.....now I have to sell my 6x pro solar to get the 7x pro solar!
Great video ! can you please forward a link to purchase an adapter that goes form C USB to --> USB A ? bought a Fenix 7x pro and i don't have a computer w a C USB input .
Thank you
Just buy a USB A Garmin charger
Still on fenix 6 sapphire , holding out longer for fenix 8 . Doesnt seem like enough to upgrade yet when my 6 works great still.
Fenix 7x pro sapphire solar. When the sensors are off, should the green light from the back be on? Is it the same with your watch?
Would you say the Sapphire-Solar-Titanium with the 32GB-SATIQ combo is a “no brainer” for $200 when compared to a standard version?
Weather features will come update to Garmin Fênix 7x?
Cool as always
Hi Ray,
Thank you for your review. This is an interesting watch in this series. But what motivates getting this compare to Polar V3? Price is 250€ difference where i live.
Awsome review dude! how does this stack up to the Tactix 7 in terms of hardware ?
I have the Fenix 6 Pro and wear it daily at work and at home, and I can't say enough about the quality of the Garmin watch. They are 100% TOUGH.
Is the Compass still wonky, I had my compass loose it’s mind every hour or so, unlike my Instinct gen 1 or forerunner 955 solar, which never lost calibration of compass. I tried multiple units of the fenix including sapphire and all of them had the compass calibration problem, further googling I found that the metal pins that hold the watch to the strap cause this ? Wondering if they fixed this in Pro.
So with the new improved battery life in both the fenix and epix especially in the plus size which did you prefer? That’s the big question?
I tend to prefer the Epix.
@@Dcrainmaker would that apply to just the 51mm with all the battery life glory it brings or regardless the 47mm as well..
When will the Fenix 8 be released? Is it expected to launch in early 2024?
Generally speaking, Garmin has a 14-18 month refresh cycle. Sometimes a touch faster, sometimes a touch slower, but that's the norm.
If the F7 standard and pro are using the same firmware, does this mean there will be another update soon? Version 13 just got released but that does not have the software features of the pro series. So the pro series must have a newer version and it should be available already for the whole watch series?
Great video, thank you! Do you know if Garmin can track tine in a heart rate zone over time? Like: X number of hours in Zone 3 this month.