I think part of what’s holding up TWOW is that now that the series is wrapping up he has to actually plan for the ending and not just write in his typical “gardening” style, so he probably has done *at least* some work on ADFS.
Well when he published a Feast for Crows and Dance of Dragons, the next books were almost half done and would be coming along soon. And the wait would be much shorter than for the last one. 😂
Mean, it’s been 13 years, winds is definitely coming out at some point. Probably by 2026. The thing is will we ever see Dream of Spring? I think we will, I think Dream will be absolutely easier to write than Winds, and if George stays healthy the entire series could be finished early 2030’s.
That's under the assumption that there will actually be only 7 books. My prediction is that, similar to what happened with ADWD, the version of WOW we will get won't be the whole story, but around 2/3 of what would be required to finish the series in one more book. Then it will be impossible to fit the remaining story in ADOS, which in any case won't ever get released because it will then have become as difficult to write as what you are saying WOW is.
@FirstSynapse My theory is he scrapped a lot of his work and rewrote towards a different ending when the show ending released and everyone hated it. He was probably a good bit through Winds of Winter and went "ah fuck they all hate it, D&D fucked it, I fucked it becsuse I didn't stay ahead of the show" and at that point the ending he had planned was basically in concept the same as what the show did so everyone would hate it even if he did it good. The only option is to rewrite for a different ending. But either way, there is a possibility George actually sat down and said alright no more gardening and adding more bullshit, I'm gonna move the plot as quick as possible and make the book work, if he did that then Winds and Dream might happen
@ricebix I seriously doubt the ending he had planned was anywhere close to what D&D did. I also mostly doubt he had (or currently has) an actual ending in mind that he was actively pursuing. I'm sure he has always had some general ideas about the ending and maybe some of those had a faint similarly to GoT, but I'd say his main issue is that whenever he keeps developing each character's plot, he realises the ending he imagined does not work. And the problem is that his whole story is so absurdly complex that he is not currently able or willing to design and write a good ending that would fit all the narratives.
He may be wrapping up The Winds of Winter, but he definitely isn’t going to be starting A Dream of Spring anytime soon. He stated that he plans on writing more Dunk & Aeg as well as Fire & Blood II (which I assume will be called The Death of the Dragons) before he starts ADoS
I don’t even care about a decent ending anymore. I just want an ending at this point. If he just wrote the exact same thing that happens in the show, I’d say it would be a top 2 fantasy series ever, with a divisive ending.
Nah it needs to be TWOW I don't need a dry telling of the Targaryens "the world of ice and fire" coffee table book honestly covers enough@@stephaniec9539
Holy shit i cannot believe i am actually writing this and not talking myself out of it but my theory is that he is finishing both books right now and gonna duo drop them to do what he has done the entire series and subvert our expectations
Nope, neither. The next Dunk story is the winterfell one, and Fire and Blood 2 covers Robert's Rebellion, so they're both on hold until the things they spoil are revealed in the main series. Which may be tWoW for Dunk, but probably after aDoS for Fire and Blood.
Only just began reading the first book, and as a fan of the television show and other Fantasy.. im already anticipating him to release winds of winter.. but then it coukd take 5 - 10 years until we see the final book after that😂
I just wished george would understand that its not good if you work on multible projects at the same time. Asoiaf is the MAIN STORY so he should focus on this book series FIRST before he starts new side storys like fire & blood. He could have finished the last 2 books years ago, if he had focused solely on them and AFTER they were finished he still could have written all the other side storys. Its no wonder why he loses interest to finish asoiaf.
He’s never even suggested that he would do so. I’d tell you to do less drugs but you look like too much of a nerdy little kid for that, so instead I’d suggest growing the fuck up and joining us in reality. Same goes for OP and his idiotic theories about the old man’s twitter account that I very much doubt he knows how to operate.
He is gonna come out with any other book besides TWOW 😂😅 and dont forget my man out here starting a dunk and egg show with like 6 of those stories still to finish soooooo i can almost garuntee other peopleare gonna step up and finish the rest of his stories
I just came here four months later to tell you to move on and not be delusional. George won't finish this series, he doesn't want to do it. I would love to see him being honest with all of us but that's not the case. I loved to read all five books but I already accepted that I will never read the end of this story......It's time to move on folks
In a perfect world he's been secretly writing and completing winds of winter and a dream of spring together. That could potentially make us forgive him for the delay. Potentially
He said he was going to do one or a few more dunking egg short stories and then do the next iteration of fire and blood and then work on dream of spring. But he 100% said he's doing one of those before the next book though. Also my theory was 2023 by February he was going to have an announcement saying it was done or it was in the editor's hands. But then he said in February of 2023 November of the year and I'm like all right I'll give it till November and then he's like February of 2024 and I'm just like all right I'll give it till then but past that I'm not even hoping anymore I'm just leaving it up to the gods lol I had hope for a while but it comes when it comes
If we assume Winds is taking forever because George has to figure out how to set up the endgame of every character, then Dream could hypothetically be much faster to write because George will already have everything mapped out (no more gardening)
Good stories have endings. He better put down the Ben&Jerry's and start typing, because a massive coronary is inevitable and he has at least 2 more books to write. At the current pace he will have to live to be 100+. There are no morbidly obese 100 year olds.
After 13 years I don't really feel one way or the other about it lol. If we get it late this year or early next, okay cool bonus. But I'm not expecting anything. No point.
I’ve accepted that ever if we do get WOW he’s never gonna finish the series. He’s 75 and doesn’t seem particularly interested in completing his magnum opus
Not hoping for anything at this point, but my theory is he already finished winds of winter and is trying to finish a dream of spring before he drops book six
I dont know why people genuinely believed it wouldn't be finished. Honestly thw size of his books and his age and the amount of other projects he has going on and covid aswell it hasnt been that long. Its like how when video games got bigger they took a lot longer to make.
*"Don't do that, don't give me hope."*
Bruh I literally opened the comments to type that 😂
It's now been 4 months
It's been 4 months lmaoo.. we not getting shitttttt
Bro this cannot be healthy 😂😂 what has he done to us
😂😂😂😂
Absolutely fiending for this book
Excitement seems more healthy than not being excited to me, idk. TWOW seem close
Only Hunter x Hunter fans are as traumatized as GoT fans.
@@BingeThinker1814my hopes died when that smart guy recently dropped a video explaining how using statistics winds of winter would drop in 2032
Bro is ZONKED on the copium
LINES OF IT.
Same, tbh
@@hez859 Kilos of it.
Doctors have told me to stop taking Hopium yet here I am
Oh my sweet summer child
I really hope it's coming out
😂
Its "oh you sweet summer child"
These boys of summer don’t know the harsh winter
@@GHOSTTIEFGreen as spring they are
"If you think this has a happy ending. You haven't been paying attention."
Hahahahha true!
I think part of what’s holding up TWOW is that now that the series is wrapping up he has to actually plan for the ending and not just write in his typical “gardening” style, so he probably has done *at least* some work on ADFS.
Of spring
Well when he published a Feast for Crows and Dance of Dragons, the next books were almost half done and would be coming along soon. And the wait would be much shorter than for the last one. 😂
ADOS (A Dream of Spring)
We are so delusional. I love us
i'll believe he finished writing it when i'm holding the book in my hands
Open comments. Sees 5 months ago. Lmao
Hahahahahahahaha I've been here FAR too many times to fall for it again
I just finished the first book and have convinced myself that it'll be out by the time i finish dance (I'm delusional)
That's what I told myself when I started Book 1 in 2019 (:
I convinced myself of the same thing when I started AGOT last year. I'm now halfway through ADWD, so let's hope I was right!!
That’s what I told myself when I read the books back in 2017 😳
I've read all the books three times, I think the same thing everytime I start
@@carastone3473you done yet?
Mean, it’s been 13 years, winds is definitely coming out at some point. Probably by 2026. The thing is will we ever see Dream of Spring? I think we will, I think Dream will be absolutely easier to write than Winds, and if George stays healthy the entire series could be finished early 2030’s.
That's under the assumption that there will actually be only 7 books. My prediction is that, similar to what happened with ADWD, the version of WOW we will get won't be the whole story, but around 2/3 of what would be required to finish the series in one more book. Then it will be impossible to fit the remaining story in ADOS, which in any case won't ever get released because it will then have become as difficult to write as what you are saying WOW is.
Do you have any idea how old he is? 🤨 him being alive in the 2030’s would put him in his mid to late 80s
@FirstSynapse
My theory is he scrapped a lot of his work and rewrote towards a different ending when the show ending released and everyone hated it. He was probably a good bit through Winds of Winter and went "ah fuck they all hate it, D&D fucked it, I fucked it becsuse I didn't stay ahead of the show" and at that point the ending he had planned was basically in concept the same as what the show did so everyone would hate it even if he did it good. The only option is to rewrite for a different ending. But either way, there is a possibility George actually sat down and said alright no more gardening and adding more bullshit, I'm gonna move the plot as quick as possible and make the book work, if he did that then Winds and Dream might happen
@ricebix I seriously doubt the ending he had planned was anywhere close to what D&D did. I also mostly doubt he had (or currently has) an actual ending in mind that he was actively pursuing. I'm sure he has always had some general ideas about the ending and maybe some of those had a faint similarly to GoT, but I'd say his main issue is that whenever he keeps developing each character's plot, he realises the ending he imagined does not work. And the problem is that his whole story is so absurdly complex that he is not currently able or willing to design and write a good ending that would fit all the narratives.
You may discover that 2030s is too optimistic.
😂 He'll never write a dream of spring.
four months later...
He may be wrapping up The Winds of Winter, but he definitely isn’t going to be starting A Dream of Spring anytime soon. He stated that he plans on writing more Dunk & Aeg as well as Fire & Blood II (which I assume will be called The Death of the Dragons) before he starts ADoS
Last I heard he was calling the 2nd volume "Blood & Fire".
The prospect of A Song of Ice and Fire having a decent ending gives me hope in this crazy world of today.
I don’t even care about a decent ending anymore. I just want an ending at this point. If he just wrote the exact same thing that happens in the show, I’d say it would be a top 2 fantasy series ever, with a divisive ending.
If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
Copium unfortunately. Hope you’re right tho
Probably Fire and Blood part 2.
I would even be ok with that tbh
You know that wouldn’t be a bad idea I’m ok with that.
@King-CosmoAlpha1 right? Balon the blessed, the blackfyre rebellions, Summerhall!!
Nah it needs to be TWOW
I don't need a dry telling of the Targaryens "the world of ice and fire" coffee table book honestly covers enough@@stephaniec9539
@@stephaniec9539And Robert’s rebellion
Holy shit i cannot believe i am actually writing this and not talking myself out of it but my theory is that he is finishing both books right now and gonna duo drop them to do what he has done the entire series and subvert our expectations
Okay, I like that theory!
We probably get another Dunk and Egg or the other half of Blood and fire before we get Winds of Winter
Dunk and Egg would be good. I wanna know what happened at Summerhal.
Nope, neither. The next Dunk story is the winterfell one, and Fire and Blood 2 covers Robert's Rebellion, so they're both on hold until the things they spoil are revealed in the main series. Which may be tWoW for Dunk, but probably after aDoS for Fire and Blood.
@@jeffr.1681 is this George answering?
This aged like milk
5 months later...🙄
Trollin' Trollin' Trollin'..... George is trolling like a bridge beast.
I hope he was writing both at the same time. Wasn’t he writing Feast and Dance at the same time?
This is what a Copium high looks like, people. Addiction is a wonderful thing.
We are getting Winds of Winter before we get GTA 6 or is it the other way around? 😏
Yeah dude you took too many hits from that copium bong, you’re high out of your mind
If you think this has a happy ending you haven’t been paying attention.
Only just began reading the first book, and as a fan of the television show and other Fantasy.. im already anticipating him to release winds of winter.. but then it coukd take 5 - 10 years until we see the final book after that😂
Short answer- No
Long answer-Also no…
Fool me once…
…fool me for 14 years…
Dont play with my emotions like that man
Maybe the real winds of winter is the friends we made along the way....
We can only dream about dream of spring 😂
I just wished george would understand that its not good if you work on multible projects at the same time. Asoiaf is the MAIN STORY so he should focus on this book series FIRST before he starts new side storys like fire & blood. He could have finished the last 2 books years ago, if he had focused solely on them and AFTER they were finished he still could have written all the other side storys. Its no wonder why he loses interest to finish asoiaf.
I think he took so long to finish bcus he was finishing both books
Oh my sweet summer child
He just disproved the rumors, rip winds of winter lol
I believe he’s been working on Winds and Dream in tandem. Because of how many butterfly effects there could be down the line.
He's stated that whatever he feels like writing. Inspiration and such. So you may be right
He’s never even suggested that he would do so. I’d tell you to do less drugs but you look like too much of a nerdy little kid for that, so instead I’d suggest growing the fuck up and joining us in reality. Same goes for OP and his idiotic theories about the old man’s twitter account that I very much doubt he knows how to operate.
Pure ugandan cpoium at work here😂
Been 4 more months since you said this…
He is gonna come out with any other book besides TWOW 😂😅 and dont forget my man out here starting a dunk and egg show with like 6 of those stories still to finish soooooo i can almost garuntee other peopleare gonna step up and finish the rest of his stories
Is he writing a dream for spring. No.
We will never get the winds of winter.
If he didn't JUST give an estimate of how much he has done, I'd agree with this. But George is sadly never one to underestimate something like that.
It needs to be real because I need to see Glidus eat it
I'm just assuming it'll never get done so if it ever comes out it'll be a nice little surprise.
I just came here four months later to tell you to move on and not be delusional. George won't finish this series, he doesn't want to do it. I would love to see him being honest with all of us but that's not the case. I loved to read all five books but I already accepted that I will never read the end of this story......It's time to move on folks
In a perfect world he's been secretly writing and completing winds of winter and a dream of spring together. That could potentially make us forgive him for the delay. Potentially
Haha that's what I keep thinking and hoping for 😂😂.
Even if he is done with Winds...we'll never get A Dream of Spring in his lifetime.
Man the copium is reaching clinically diagnosable levels. Don’t worry I’m there with you. You’re not alone in your delusion.
He was meeting with the British publishers to do a special edition of AGOT or something.
Winds isn’t done lads stop the cope.
George has said that there won’t be a slow rollout to announce TWOW is done, he’ll do it the second it’s officially finished
He's not spending a single second actually working on anything.
Oh my RR! Thank you for some positivity on this subject for once. Even if you are wrong this is enough to give me hope for another 5 years
He said he was going to do one or a few more dunking egg short stories and then do the next iteration of fire and blood and then work on dream of spring. But he 100% said he's doing one of those before the next book though. Also my theory was 2023 by February he was going to have an announcement saying it was done or it was in the editor's hands. But then he said in February of 2023 November of the year and I'm like all right I'll give it till November and then he's like February of 2024 and I'm just like all right I'll give it till then but past that I'm not even hoping anymore I'm just leaving it up to the gods lol I had hope for a while but it comes when it comes
He said no more Dunkerque and egg until wow
Lol it's never coming boys
If we assume Winds is taking forever because George has to figure out how to set up the endgame of every character, then Dream could hypothetically be much faster to write because George will already have everything mapped out (no more gardening)
After the new Words of Wisdom post, I feel like IT'S COMING HOME
Dude has zero plans to finish the book.
whoa grrm nice one!🦍
tym for A Spring equinox! may winds Of Winter blow In!🌬☁️💨💨☁️☁️💨💨🏹
💜🌹🗡⚔🗡🌹
⚡💠💎💠⚡🗿
This is merely a dream for spring
Good stories have endings. He better put down the Ben&Jerry's and start typing, because a massive coronary is inevitable and he has at least 2 more books to write. At the current pace he will have to live to be 100+. There are no morbidly obese 100 year olds.
Lol this aged like milk
British publisher
Or perhaps the book is dead. Ceased to be, shuffled off this mortal coil .... Not holding my breath
House of the Dragon season 2 trailer tomorrow.
I think he will finish the winds of winter, but not the last one
After 13 years I don't really feel one way or the other about it lol.
If we get it late this year or early next, okay cool bonus. But I'm not expecting anything. No point.
He posted Words of Wisdom again!
I’ve accepted that ever if we do get WOW he’s never gonna finish the series. He’s 75 and doesn’t seem particularly interested in completing his magnum opus
Don’t do it…don’t give me hope
Not hoping for anything at this point, but my theory is he already finished winds of winter and is trying to finish a dream of spring before he drops book six
He definitely isn't, George announces when he is making progress, he has been doing that for Winds, if he started dream he would have mentioned it
Even if winds of winter comes out and thats a massive if, the next biok will never come out. People saying early 2030's... the man is 75
Let's suppose he actually finished winds... Do you really think he will actually start dream of spring immediately?
I thought he was a fan of the movie King Kong
Christmas gift sorted 😂
I need Jon to come back. The books are so much better than the show.
Maybe this time its for years
I hope so but I don’t believe so
I doubt book seven will ever be finished and maybe not even started
Sir, it is 2024. We've had years of false hopes. How DARE you try to arouse our hope again
Nah I’ll give it till 2025 for the next big update that will hopefully be an announcement.
I would love it if he finished it.
don't hold your breath
This time though he posted that fascism on the rise so he can't write the book.
The Copium is through the roof.
You’re getting me too hopeful I know it’s not coming out but I still have gope
I'll believe it when I see it. How many years? F that guy
Spinoff projects?
I'm shocked y'all still believe. It was clear since Book 4 that he doesn't have a path to actually end the series.
I'm not reading anything until is ALL DONE
I dont know why people genuinely believed it wouldn't be finished. Honestly thw size of his books and his age and the amount of other projects he has going on and covid aswell it hasnt been that long. Its like how when video games got bigger they took a lot longer to make.
13 years??😂 Stephen King wrote IT in 5 years. With 2 books in-between
You know what? Give me some of that copium, I will buy it
No bigger copeiam addicts on this earth than ASOIAF fans
So.. only one month left or what?
I hope so!!
The copium is real.
...don't get my hopes up..