Locke's life from beginning to end was just tragic. Even his death is overlooked by the fans, we didnt mourn him because we thought he was back from the dead. Then when its revealed hes actually dead there's so much else going on its not a moment we process. He was a sad, lonely man who never actually got any answers, no greater purpose, just used and manipulated his entire life. Absolutely bloody tragic!
27:45 🙃 The acting from Elizabeth Mitchell and Josh Holloway brings me to tears every time I see this episode. Definitely the most heart wrenching season finale thus far for me.
I feel like you did not really noticed that we lost Locke, a OG lostie, amazing character. We lost him episodes ago but this was the moment to realize he never came back to life and he is really dead. Rip Juliet and Locke.
I live in Alabama and was a fan recently featured in the documentary "Getting Lost." I'ma HUGE Juliet fan and actually own the jughead prop! So it is CRAZY FATE that you mentioned sending the minion to Alabama at 27:44
I was absolutely expecting you to react to that scene with Juliette in a dramatic way. You absolutely blew my expectations away. Juliette is a beloved character for sure.
Best finale episode! Didn't want to lose Juliet, but what a way to go out! First losing Faraday only a few episodes ago, plus finding out Locke was really dead. A bunch of big losses, but season 5 was such a ride. Knowing the Incident was coming, and still getting blown away
Oh Juliet. Ever the brave one. She’s my favorite. I loved your reaction. So many people just go oh okay and carry on but it deserves a bit of a breakdown lol.
I knew the minion would get the worst beatdown of his life after this episode. This season finale is the most heartbreaking. I grew to like Juliet (after many re-watches mind you; I didn't always like her), so her death is the most heartbreaking of the whole series (but a heroic one, too!) The fact that Sawyer had to watch her die just breaks me.
I always imagine, during climactic action scenes, Jacob watching from afar. Sitting down and nonchalantly enjoying the same fish he was eating at the beginning of episode 16. 😂
4:18 Yes! Yes! YES! I was so hoping you would catch it,and reference it my boy! You are SO on the right track! Also, after you finish the series, I wanna recommend some great supplemental material - albeit unofficial. The YT channel Lost Explained has about 30 videos ranging in lengths from 4min - 30min, released in viewing order that will explain details, and anywhere questions may linger.
32:00 The moment I've been waiting for!!! 😆 That reaction was so satisfying!! 👏 👏 👏 I knew you were gon trip. But that was better than I'd even imagined. Awesome. (Tho I don't understand your "grey" theory now that you've seen Locke's body.)
I like how you'd like some things to stay a mystery, a very important mindset heading into the ending. I feel like the audience's who were massively disappointed with the ending felt they needed very detailed and mysteries to be solved and answered.
Actually if you rewatch season 2 Elie alot of the answers to the season 2 mysteries with Dharma Iniative, The Polar Bears the Statue resurfacing, All the Hatches, The Incident were all answered in this season alone. Also remember the electromagntism pull things down so theroretically if the Hydrogen bomb went off it didn't exploded it imploded (Just like what happened in the season 2 finale) thus giving the Dharma people time to finish building the station. Maybe Daniel's original theory was correct all along. What happened happened. They caused their own suffering. Season 2 and Season 5 were interconnected and the final season will circle back around to Season 1.
Puncturing that pocket of electromagnetism is a cataclysmic event. I mean, a small, abated release is what brought down their plane. Left unchecked... everything would continue to be sucked down. Everything. Eloise lived through this. It's why she said if the O6 don't go back... then 'God help us all.' She knew that Jack & Co were essential to surviving the incident. (Exactly like Desmond turning the FailSafe key to save everything in S2. No doubt how they knew to put that in.) Believing in variables got Jack to do exactly what he was always meant to do. So no matter what this detonation might bring about... If they hadn't gone back and tried Daniel's idea, then the incident occurs anyway, and who knows how far reaching that could be.
Makes more sense now why Richard told “Locke” in 5X15 that there was… “Something different about you” 🤨 I’ll say it again: S5 is SUCH a banger on the rewatch!
Sad for Juliet to know that by causing the incident by detonating the bomb, she is the source of the reason for the phenomenon making women unable to give birth, a phenomenon for which she came to the island in order to solve it. Her own loop.
Jack's first flashback is the story that Jack told Kate in the first episode of the show (the one about counting to 5). It seems that Jacob "revived" Locke by touching him. I will explain that near the end of the series how that was possible. Now that you know that the man in black is the fake Locke, you will also know that Eloise told Jack that Locke will be a substitute, so when Locke's corpse arrived on the island, the man in black was Christian and he took Locke's corpse to change his appearance, he was also the fake Jemy (Eko's brother) in the episode that Eko died. About the cabin it seems that it was a meeting place between Richard and Jacob. The detail of the ashes I will tell in the next episode, just like the bomb
Meet FLocke! In the last episode on the beach there was Jacob and what people call The Man in Black. Such a great turn! I agree about Sawyer. It's the most honest emotion we've seen from him.
The official "RIP" to John Locke. He spent his life being feeling worthless, or being told he was special. Turns out it was him telling people to tell his passed self that he was special🙃. The island sure had a purpose for him, but he definitely got the short straw.😢 Pour some out for John.🍻
One point i think you may have missed, is that Jacobs cabin had a broken circle of ash around it. Alana said it hadnt been used by Jacob in "some time". What does that mean? Who was using it in his name? What storylines did they cause in Jacobs name?
yup. "someone else has been using it" for a long time she said. that is actually one of my favorite parts but it's so hard to geek out over it without spoiling lmao.
Jacob visited some of the Oceanic 815 characters in important times in their lives. He met Jack when he performed a surgery on that girl. We know the story from S1E1 and also it was mentioned later in S3. But it was never mentioned that it was his father that told him to count to 5. And now that we know this, watching this scene in pilot episode, seeing Jack in tears we know that he was so much in pain after losing his father, even tho he didn't really wanna show it 😢. Elie I just need to tell you again, I'd be thrilled if I could see your reactions while rewatching LOST ❤. This is just whole nother level of this beautiful journey and it's not the same 😂
And Juliet hits the bomb with the rock 8 times. Always the numbers. Not a good day for the J's. Jacob, John, Juliet and Jughead disappear or die. I read somewhere that the showrunners wanted what happens to Locke (the confirmation of his death and his appearance taken by the Man in Black) to be planned for Eko. But the actor's departure forced them to fall back on John.
Man, thank you so much for doing this. You dont idea how much i wait for your reactions to pops up. It really an event. Its the only way to get close to the feeling of seeing the show for the first time. ABOUT THE EPISODE. I think the cliffhanger of this episode is awesome. Its amazing how they keep the things interesting for so long, is season five man and they still delivered a great season finale. Now im going for the bad, first of all Lost is my fav show, i always defend it, i think the job they did with it in a total different era of tv shows, how they managed to solve it knowing that when they started they didnt have any idea of what to do. What they accomplished is awesome, they find a way to do a coherent story with an amazing arc for some of the characters. So what iam going to said are just thoughts of a fan years after the show ended knowing his legacy will be intact no matter of what. Now... I have to said it JACOB, i have lot of problems with his introduction. We knew about jacob since season 3, we always hear his name, he always was hinted, and for some reason we never were able to see it until the end of season 5. Back then fans were all over the place speculating about the identity of jacob. Why? Because obviously if they are hiding it is for something, right?. He has to be someone we knew. Time travel elements started to appear from season 3 too, so this help that idea. Jacob could be someone who travelled through time. Some people thought jack was jacob, because his name, the tatoo about he is not one of us, some thought christhian shepard was, he always showed up, he saw almost everyone before the flight. My theory was that he was John Locke, he always loved the island, everyone keep telling him he was special, and was seem that he was going to be the leader of the others. So imagine the dissappointment of everyone with this guy showed up. I think he does a great job playing the part. Now i accepted as jacob of course, i accepted that the story they were telling was different to the one we made in our minds. But still watching everything again, they could set up this way better. Imagine how cool would have been if the guy who played jacob popped up during the flashbacks from season 1-3, or at least season 3. Just small cameo without revealing his identity. Similar to Richard who appeared in several flashback, similar to christian who did the same. Now we have to believe, in the end of season 5, that this guy was around on their lives all along, and i have to confess, for me is so hard to buy it. For me Jacob, the guy who was hyped up from three season deserved a more powerfull intervention. And also John Locke, but i will leave that one for next season.
Locke’s story is one of a kind, it’s sad that his character didn’t seem to get a proper send off. But I think Juliet’s story is often underrated as well. Parents divorced at a young age, sister wanted to become a mom but got cancer, she married an asshole (possibly to advance her research?), created a miracle by growing life for her sister, gets tricked into going to an island where Ben essentially kidnapped her, then she met a bunch a crazies who fell out of the sky and is suddenly in the 1970’s, where she finally builds a happy life before literally nuking the whole thing in an effort to start over.
It gets even more tragic when you consider that the fertility issue for which Juliet is brought to the Island to solve was caused, in fact, by the detonation of Jughead. "We are the cause of our own suffering."
Locke was such a major character. no one thought they'd have the balls to do it but they went and done did it. so good that his actor stayed on though cause oh man no spoilers but terry o quinn knocks it out of the park in season 6.
@@Glennwulfdidn’t the writers tell Terry at the time to play a more confident version of Locke very sure of himself with purpose? I don’t remember what was said to him verbatim.
@@TJMalana The story goes that Jack Bender was the only person on the creative team outside of the writers room who knew from the outset that John Locke was, in fact, dead and Terry O'Quinn was now playing the villainous "Man in Black." When he was given the script for The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham (which, naturally, was helmed by Jack Bender), Terry O'Quinn approached Jack and said, "I'm going to play him like he's suddenly got all the confidence in the world, like he's a new man who feels immortal." Jack, knowing this to be the perfect angle, simply assured him that was a good idea and encouraged him to lean into that. It wasn't until the final pages of The Incident were given to O'Quinn that he actually knew he was literally playing a different character.
I'm kind of surprised you didn't notice the change in "Locke's" demeanor this season. Granted, Terry O'Quinn didn't even know he was playing a different character for a while, so it's understandable 😂 Hindsight definitely makes it a lot more obvious. It's one of the many things that makes rewatching so valuable.
The only crying that ever affects me as much as Sawyer sobbing over Jules, is Eowyn from LOTR. When King Theoden dies. Both pierce me to the core. Both, phenomenal acting.
Also, Mark moves me deeply with the level of compassion and sadness in Jacob's face, when he went to Locke's side when he fell. First time I saw it, he had me right then.
I was in OKC on business when this aired and there was a tornado warning. They kept cutting in with weather updates and said don't worry we're not gonna interrupt Lost. Then the sirens went off and they totally cut off Lost. I was pissed. Good thing I recorded it and saw it when I got back home.
It is possible that during one of his visits to Jack in the hospital, Jacob tickled Sarah's heels after the operation. She may have healed after that, and not after Jack's efforts.
It's funny how you mentioned alien and Prometheus because the showrunner of Lost, Damond Lindelof, is the guy that wrote Prometheus ( he reworked many drafts from other people before him) and he is of the same opinion: some things are better kept as mysteries
Sawyer might still have lingering feelings for Kate, and it probably really did hurt Juliet when he looked at Kate instead of her after Rose and Bernard spoke about the important thing is being together, but like Sawyer said, he chose Juliet. But I can see how seeing an ex that you didn't get closure with might spark some lingering feelings. That said, Kate and Sawyer only had a fleeting flirtation/relationship for maybe 3 months 3 years ago. He was with Juliet for several years. It was way too soon to come to the conclusion that he loved Kate more than her. But childhood trauma shapes how you act as an adult. If they had more time, I feel like they would have worked it out, but naturally they were limited to a window of only a few hours. It often takes longer than that to realize your initial reaction/feelings aren't rational. It ok and valid to feel them but acting in the heat of the moment isn't the best idea.
I have to say that there are things about season 5 that made me uneasy. I was afraid that excessive events would cause me feelings that might devalue the show itself. And I wanted to keep a sense of seriousness about this wonderful show. The season has caused mixed feelings in me. But overall, every episode was always surprising. And I'm still delighted with the courage of the scriptwriters, and grateful for their work.
This whole time we thought Locke had finally come into his leadership role, but in reality he was dead the whole time. His story ended with Ben strangling him and i find that to be so depressing
@@John_Locke_108 my favorite characters are Locke and Juliet. They take first places in male and female category. Second places are for Sawyer and Kate. Third for Jack and older Eloise.
Can we all step back a few episodes ago when Elie noticed that Locke was wearing black when came back to the Island. Man, I nearly choked when he said that. I've seen the show close to two dozen times and I never once made that connection.
I haven't noticed it in all these years either. But then I restrained myself and did not write about it, because I was afraid to give a hint that would have a spoiler effect. But now you can. By the way, a lot of people wrote about it in the comments then, I read and was very worried that Elie would guess, but I'm glad he didn't guess
So sad that John did actually die that day and never got to be a leader. The look on Ilana’s face when Richard knew the answer to the statue question was great. I quickly stop laughing of course because of what comes afterwards, but Juliet’s scream when she gets dragged to the floor is hilarious. Kate’s fastest mind change ever, based on Nothing except jacks good looks. Sawyer shud b able to win against Jack in a fight. That end scene with Juliet n sawyer was heartbreaking. I was never a fan of Juliet (didn’t like the way the actress played her) but omg was horrible to watch this. Reminded me of the opening scene from Cliffhanger, which scarred me for life. The screen going white at the end was fantastic. What a Brilliant season finale.
Now we see why so many think S5 is the best. One of the greatest season finales in TV history. Of course, we said that about 3 and 4. Can S 6 keep up the streak? This show needs you Elie.
Juliet was the only flashback without Jacob. They got to the Swan so quick because Hurley drove them in the van. The fans refer to the man dressed in back as simply "The Man in Black" or "MiB" .. some people call him "Flocke," for "fake Locke," but I've always hated that nickname.
Now we know Locke potentially died twice. The first time, Jacob’s touch appeared to bring him back to life after he was pushed from that 8th floor window. The second time when Ben strangled him was his second death. RIP John Locke
"Dead is dead, you don't get to come back from that." I don't think Jacob literally brought Locke back to life. He may have just been unconscious and Jacob "accelerated" his healing.
@@nickstark8640 While I would typically say “dead is dead” I do actually agree Locke momentarily died from the fall. The only reason I feel comfortable saying that is because it was so soon after he died. We saw Jack bring Charlie back to life in season one when he had been dead for several minutes. So I do think Jacob has the ability to bring someone back to life if it is soon enough that modern medicine could theoretically intervene to save someone.
I understand why this is debated. Then again, this is not an ordinary show. No one in recorded history has ever fallen from that height and landed on their back and survived. Remember Locke was told it was a miracle he survived. Locke wasn’t resuscitated by some procedure. He literally had hands laid on him and was instantaneously revived.
@@nickstark8640 I also understand why it is debated, but the original comment is stated as if it was fact. And it is not fact, is subjective, and reasonable people can come to different conclusions so telling Elie this as if it is fact will not be beneficial for his viewing.
And dang it Richard, you dropped the ball big time. You knew Locke was different and you knew dead was dead. And you still got played. Why didn't Illana say something? She knew Locke wasn't really Locke. She screwed up, too.
@@John_Locke_108 I don't blame Richard, as "Locke" was quite convincing in his words. And who was Ilana supposed to tell about this? Maybe she just didn't have the opportunity and time at that moment? Since they were on Hydra Island
@@John_Locke_108 But I agree with you that Richard and Ilana screwed up, in a way. I was just trying to find an excuse for them. I wondered if things could have turned out differently, or if it was inevitable. I think a lot of us screwed up.
@@DmitryUlybinAbc Grab an outrigger and send someone tell the others. Ben mentioned going to the temple last season. She could have sent someone to tell those folks.
Locke's story always breaks my heart, I will say it time and time again. Used and abused his whole life, and all he wanted was to be wanted and needed.
I think he got a little confused for a second but I'm pretty sure he eventually got it. At least he's done thinking that Richard and the man in black are the same actor and character.
No, Elie, Juliet was doing it not cuz of her parents. She did it cuz of all the looks during Rose-Bernard scene in their love triangle that you missed in previous episode and 2 more scenes before that when Sawyer called Kate "freckles".
It really is even better after knowing it's not Locke. All the clues are laid out in Dead id Dead. And while Ben has been being manipulated... the real John Locke was manipulated by MiB even more.
is this what happened all along and the incident was them setting off the nuke or was Daniel correct and they were the variables that made it possible to create a new timeline? hmm
Where do you think you're going blondie??! When I was watching the show for the first time I was furious about them killing Juliet but it is actually kind of fitting that she gets to be the one to set off the hydrogen bomb. But yeah her death scene always gets me. "The Incident" might be Giacchino's best score of the entire show.
Locke's life from beginning to end was just tragic. Even his death is overlooked by the fans, we didnt mourn him because we thought he was back from the dead. Then when its revealed hes actually dead there's so much else going on its not a moment we process.
He was a sad, lonely man who never actually got any answers, no greater purpose, just used and manipulated his entire life. Absolutely bloody tragic!
Couldn’t agree more 😢
My thoughts exactly. Juliet's tragic death overshadowed Locke's death (Confirmed Dead no pun intended) was so brilliant writing.
Poor reactor, so many spoilers in the comments, too much😭
27:45 🙃
The acting from Elizabeth Mitchell and Josh Holloway brings me to tears every time I see this episode. Definitely the most heart wrenching season finale thus far for me.
The white background still gives me chills 15 years later!
I start crying as soon as Sawyer says, "Where do you think you're going, Blondie".
I feel like you did not really noticed that we lost Locke, a OG lostie, amazing character.
We lost him episodes ago but this was the moment to realize he never came back to life and he is really dead. Rip Juliet and Locke.
Juliet saying Sawyer’s catchphrase (“Son of a bitch”) right before detonating the bomb 😭
@@ad75312 wtf how did I never catch that lmao
The fucking lost titles appearing through the white explosion is so insane, always got goosebumps from that
I live in Alabama and was a fan recently featured in the documentary "Getting Lost." I'ma HUGE Juliet fan and actually own the jughead prop! So it is CRAZY FATE that you mentioned sending the minion to Alabama at 27:44
Nobody had a big smile today starting your reaction... because... you know... Juliet 😭
Yeah 😅 I knew I'm gonna cry again 😭😭😭 My favorite female character is gone 😢. Good thing we have Sun 🥺💓 but Juliet was my absolute favorite
I was absolutely expecting you to react to that scene with Juliette in a dramatic way. You absolutely blew my expectations away. Juliette is a beloved character for sure.
Jacob with the coldest line “What about you?” 🥶
Juliet hit the bomb 8 times. 😢 The white flash to the Lost logo is INSANE.
Best finale episode! Didn't want to lose Juliet, but what a way to go out! First losing Faraday only a few episodes ago, plus finding out Locke was really dead. A bunch of big losses, but season 5 was such a ride. Knowing the Incident was coming, and still getting blown away
Juliet falling made me cry. And her final scene... chills!
And so ends the best season of LOST. Its been a helluva ride watching it again with you... now being on the beginning of the end!
I love this subtle difference in Jack. There's confidence, not obsessiveness, when he speaks. And he's calmer.
i mean he is the man ready to die, he almost ended his life on that bridge.
Oh Juliet. Ever the brave one. She’s my favorite. I loved your reaction. So many people just go oh okay and carry on but it deserves a bit of a breakdown lol.
Elie, your reactions are priceless. Can’t wait to see more. Buckle up…..this is where Lost truly beings.
Thank you so much broooo!! Buckle up, it's about to get wild 🔥🔥🔥
Yup, after bearing through 5 seasons of boring filler pre-text the show is about to start FINALLY.
Juliet is just the GOAT 😢
31:17 "He who will save us all."
Everyone was searching the internet afterwards trying to get a translation for that Latin.
@@John_Locke_108 Search for the whispers transcripts. It's great.
I knew the minion would get the worst beatdown of his life after this episode. This season finale is the most heartbreaking. I grew to like Juliet (after many re-watches mind you; I didn't always like her), so her death is the most heartbreaking of the whole series (but a heroic one, too!) The fact that Sawyer had to watch her die just breaks me.
Man I've been waiting for this the whole day
Bro Jacob been chilling there for centuries.
I always imagine, during climactic action scenes, Jacob watching from afar. Sitting down and nonchalantly enjoying the same fish he was eating at the beginning of episode 16. 😂
"If I never meet you, then I never have to lose you" could be the most painful thing I've heard in LOST so far tbh 💔💔💔 just broke my heart to pieces
32:35 that was a fair crash-out. Been waiting for this reaction since your Pilot video.
4:18 Yes! Yes! YES! I was so hoping you would catch it,and reference it my boy! You are SO on the right track! Also, after you finish the series, I wanna recommend some great supplemental material - albeit unofficial. The YT channel Lost Explained has about 30 videos ranging in lengths from 4min - 30min, released in viewing order that will explain details, and anywhere questions may linger.
Now that Lost has already started, let's enjoy the ride :)
32:00 The moment I've been waiting for!!! 😆 That reaction was so satisfying!! 👏 👏 👏 I knew you were gon trip. But that was better than I'd even imagined. Awesome.
(Tho I don't understand your "grey" theory now that you've seen Locke's body.)
Elie, I have faith you will love season 6. Namaste. Thank you and good luck!
THANK YOU SO MUCH, BRO, I'M READY 🔥🔥🔥
I like how you'd like some things to stay a mystery, a very important mindset heading into the ending. I feel like the audience's who were massively disappointed with the ending felt they needed very detailed and mysteries to be solved and answered.
And this is how Dr Chang got his arm ruined. Remember, in Swan Orientation only one of his arms is working.
Actually if you rewatch season 2 Elie alot of the answers to the season 2 mysteries with Dharma Iniative, The Polar Bears the Statue resurfacing, All the Hatches, The Incident were all answered in this season alone. Also remember the electromagntism pull things down so theroretically if the Hydrogen bomb went off it didn't exploded it imploded (Just like what happened in the season 2 finale) thus giving the Dharma people time to finish building the station. Maybe Daniel's original theory was correct all along. What happened happened. They caused their own suffering. Season 2 and Season 5 were interconnected and the final season will circle back around to Season 1.
Puncturing that pocket of electromagnetism is a cataclysmic event. I mean, a small, abated release is what brought down their plane. Left unchecked... everything would continue to be sucked down. Everything. Eloise lived through this. It's why she said if the O6 don't go back... then 'God help us all.' She knew that Jack & Co were essential to surviving the incident. (Exactly like Desmond turning the FailSafe key to save everything in S2. No doubt how they knew to put that in.)
Believing in variables got Jack to do exactly what he was always meant to do. So no matter what this detonation might bring about... If they hadn't gone back and tried Daniel's idea, then the incident occurs anyway, and who knows how far reaching that could be.
Makes more sense now why Richard told “Locke” in 5X15 that there was… “Something different about you” 🤨
I’ll say it again: S5 is SUCH a banger on the rewatch!
Sad for Juliet to know that by causing the incident by detonating the bomb, she is the source of the reason for the phenomenon making women unable to give birth, a phenomenon for which she came to the island in order to solve it. Her own loop.
That Juliet scene kills me every time. 😭
Juliette's smashing of the bomb was replayed between s5 and s6 maybe even more than "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT"
Jack's first flashback is the story that Jack told Kate in the first episode of the show (the one about counting to 5).
It seems that Jacob "revived" Locke by touching him. I will explain that near the end of the series how that was possible.
Now that you know that the man in black is the fake Locke, you will also know that Eloise told Jack that Locke will be a substitute, so when Locke's corpse arrived on the island, the man in black was Christian and he took Locke's corpse to change his appearance, he was also the fake Jemy (Eko's brother) in the episode that Eko died.
About the cabin it seems that it was a meeting place between Richard and Jacob. The detail of the ashes I will tell in the next episode, just like the bomb
My favorite season finale of this series!!! ❤️
Lost truly begins after this episode
Bro, the minion beatdown was probably my favourite moment thus far on your channel (Brilliant bloody finale) !
Meet FLocke! In the last episode on the beach there was Jacob and what people call The Man in Black. Such a great turn! I agree about Sawyer. It's the most honest emotion we've seen from him.
Yes, The MIB. Man in Bosch!
I don't think you've noticed before that Dr.Chang had a false hand in some of The Dharma Orientation videos but now you know how he lost his hand.
Still not over it.
The official "RIP" to John Locke.
He spent his life being feeling worthless, or being told he was special. Turns out it was him telling people to tell his passed self that he was special🙃.
The island sure had a purpose for him, but he definitely got the short straw.😢
Pour some out for John.🍻
NOW THIS IS WHERE LOST BEGINS comments actually makes sense cos its all a loop
It isn't a loop. It only ends once. Anything before is only progress.
@@notoriousbmc1 i meant for the viewers, its a good loop to see how it all started and how we got here.
One of those rare moments where I open UA-cam at the right second!
One point i think you may have missed, is that Jacobs cabin had a broken circle of ash around it. Alana said it hadnt been used by Jacob in "some time".
What does that mean?
Who was using it in his name?
What storylines did they cause in Jacobs name?
yup. "someone else has been using it" for a long time she said. that is actually one of my favorite parts but it's so hard to geek out over it without spoiling lmao.
Jacob visited some of the Oceanic 815 characters in important times in their lives. He met Jack when he performed a surgery on that girl. We know the story from S1E1 and also it was mentioned later in S3. But it was never mentioned that it was his father that told him to count to 5. And now that we know this, watching this scene in pilot episode, seeing Jack in tears we know that he was so much in pain after losing his father, even tho he didn't really wanna show it 😢. Elie I just need to tell you again, I'd be thrilled if I could see your reactions while rewatching LOST ❤. This is just whole nother level of this beautiful journey and it's not the same 😂
36:03 There was no gray, they just revealed Locke's dead body.
I love when you pick up on things but have it be just close to right. It makes the reveal so much better.
And Juliet hits the bomb with the rock 8 times. Always the numbers.
Not a good day for the J's. Jacob, John, Juliet and Jughead disappear or die.
I read somewhere that the showrunners wanted what happens to Locke (the confirmation of his death and his appearance taken by the Man in Black) to be planned for Eko. But the actor's departure forced them to fall back on John.
Man, thank you so much for doing this. You dont idea how much i wait for your reactions to pops up. It really an event. Its the only way to get close to the feeling of seeing the show for the first time. ABOUT THE EPISODE. I think the cliffhanger of this episode is awesome. Its amazing how they keep the things interesting for so long, is season five man and they still delivered a great season finale. Now im going for the bad, first of all Lost is my fav show, i always defend it, i think the job they did with it in a total different era of tv shows, how they managed to solve it knowing that when they started they didnt have any idea of what to do. What they accomplished is awesome, they find a way to do a coherent story with an amazing arc for some of the characters. So what iam going to said are just thoughts of a fan years after the show ended knowing his legacy will be intact no matter of what. Now... I have to said it JACOB, i have lot of problems with his introduction. We knew about jacob since season 3, we always hear his name, he always was hinted, and for some reason we never were able to see it until the end of season 5. Back then fans were all over the place speculating about the identity of jacob. Why? Because obviously if they are hiding it is for something, right?. He has to be someone we knew. Time travel elements started to appear from season 3 too, so this help that idea. Jacob could be someone who travelled through time. Some people thought jack was jacob, because his name, the tatoo about he is not one of us, some thought christhian shepard was, he always showed up, he saw almost everyone before the flight. My theory was that he was John Locke, he always loved the island, everyone keep telling him he was special, and was seem that he was going to be the leader of the others. So imagine the dissappointment of everyone with this guy showed up. I think he does a great job playing the part. Now i accepted as jacob of course, i accepted that the story they were telling was different to the one we made in our minds. But still watching everything again, they could set up this way better. Imagine how cool would have been if the guy who played jacob popped up during the flashbacks from season 1-3, or at least season 3. Just small cameo without revealing his identity. Similar to Richard who appeared in several flashback, similar to christian who did the same. Now we have to believe, in the end of season 5, that this guy was around on their lives all along, and i have to confess, for me is so hard to buy it. For me Jacob, the guy who was hyped up from three season deserved a more powerfull intervention. And also John Locke, but i will leave that one for next season.
Locke’s story is one of a kind, it’s sad that his character didn’t seem to get a proper send off. But I think Juliet’s story is often underrated as well. Parents divorced at a young age, sister wanted to become a mom but got cancer, she married an asshole (possibly to advance her research?), created a miracle by growing life for her sister, gets tricked into going to an island where Ben essentially kidnapped her, then she met a bunch a crazies who fell out of the sky and is suddenly in the 1970’s, where she finally builds a happy life before literally nuking the whole thing in an effort to start over.
It gets even more tragic when you consider that the fertility issue for which Juliet is brought to the Island to solve was caused, in fact, by the detonation of Jughead. "We are the cause of our own suffering."
RIP Juliet. RIP Jacob. RIP Locke.
Flawless reaction to the greatest season finale 👏🏻
I knew the minion would have a bad day today because of this episode 😂😭
We've been told "Dead is dead" for quite a few episodes now, but somehow we didn't believe it.
Locke was such a major character. no one thought they'd have the balls to do it but they went and done did it. so good that his actor stayed on though cause oh man no spoilers but terry o quinn knocks it out of the park in season 6.
@@Glennwulfdidn’t the writers tell Terry at the time to play a more confident version of Locke very sure of himself with purpose? I don’t remember what was said to him verbatim.
@@TJMalana The story goes that Jack Bender was the only person on the creative team outside of the writers room who knew from the outset that John Locke was, in fact, dead and Terry O'Quinn was now playing the villainous "Man in Black." When he was given the script for The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham (which, naturally, was helmed by Jack Bender), Terry O'Quinn approached Jack and said, "I'm going to play him like he's suddenly got all the confidence in the world, like he's a new man who feels immortal." Jack, knowing this to be the perfect angle, simply assured him that was a good idea and encouraged him to lean into that. It wasn't until the final pages of The Incident were given to O'Quinn that he actually knew he was literally playing a different character.
I'm kind of surprised you didn't notice the change in "Locke's" demeanor this season. Granted, Terry O'Quinn didn't even know he was playing a different character for a while, so it's understandable 😂
Hindsight definitely makes it a lot more obvious. It's one of the many things that makes rewatching so valuable.
But when he asked to see ypu, he gets marched straight up here as if he was Ellie Moses.
The only crying that ever affects me as much as Sawyer sobbing over Jules, is Eowyn from LOTR. When King Theoden dies. Both pierce me to the core. Both, phenomenal acting.
Also, Mark moves me deeply with the level of compassion and sadness in Jacob's face, when he went to Locke's side when he fell. First time I saw it, he had me right then.
I was in OKC on business when this aired and there was a tornado warning. They kept cutting in with weather updates and said don't worry we're not gonna interrupt Lost. Then the sirens went off and they totally cut off Lost. I was pissed. Good thing I recorded it and saw it when I got back home.
Oh good, you're finally watching Lost I was wondering when it was going to start...
I dont care what you guys say, the Minion clearly won that fight!
mannnn you talk about waiting for the next season being a KILLER. That was EXCRUCIATING.
It is possible that during one of his visits to Jack in the hospital, Jacob tickled Sarah's heels after the operation. She may have healed after that, and not after Jack's efforts.
Such an intense cliffhanger. There was so much online speculation between seasons… where could it go from here?
Aaaand of course he called it😂
It's funny how you mentioned alien and Prometheus because the showrunner of Lost, Damond Lindelof, is the guy that wrote Prometheus ( he reworked many drafts from other people before him) and he is of the same opinion: some things are better kept as mysteries
Your reactions are great, man kkkk
Appreciate that, bro! 🔥🔥
Let's go thanks 😊
Sawyer might still have lingering feelings for Kate, and it probably really did hurt Juliet when he looked at Kate instead of her after Rose and Bernard spoke about the important thing is being together, but like Sawyer said, he chose Juliet. But I can see how seeing an ex that you didn't get closure with might spark some lingering feelings. That said, Kate and Sawyer only had a fleeting flirtation/relationship for maybe 3 months 3 years ago. He was with Juliet for several years. It was way too soon to come to the conclusion that he loved Kate more than her. But childhood trauma shapes how you act as an adult.
If they had more time, I feel like they would have worked it out, but naturally they were limited to a window of only a few hours. It often takes longer than that to realize your initial reaction/feelings aren't rational. It ok and valid to feel them but acting in the heat of the moment isn't the best idea.
Now *this* is when LOST starts! 😂
I have to say that there are things about season 5 that made me uneasy. I was afraid that excessive events would cause me feelings that might devalue the show itself. And I wanted to keep a sense of seriousness about this wonderful show. The season has caused mixed feelings in me. But overall, every episode was always surprising. And I'm still delighted with the courage of the scriptwriters, and grateful for their work.
This whole time we thought Locke had finally come into his leadership role, but in reality he was dead the whole time. His story ended with Ben strangling him and i find that to be so depressing
Tell me about it. Still my favorite character though.
@@John_Locke_108 my favorite characters are Locke and Juliet. They take first places in male and female category. Second places are for Sawyer and Kate. Third for Jack and older Eloise.
Can we all step back a few episodes ago when Elie noticed that Locke was wearing black when came back to the Island.
Man, I nearly choked when he said that. I've seen the show close to two dozen times and I never once made that connection.
I haven't noticed it in all these years either. But then I restrained myself and did not write about it, because I was afraid to give a hint that would have a spoiler effect. But now you can. By the way, a lot of people wrote about it in the comments then, I read and was very worried that Elie would guess, but I'm glad he didn't guess
@DmitryUlybinAbc Yup. I got upset when I read those comments as well. They gave him a lot of hints.
So sad that John did actually die that day and never got to be a leader.
The look on Ilana’s face when Richard knew the answer to the statue question was great.
I quickly stop laughing of course because of what comes afterwards, but Juliet’s scream when she gets dragged to the floor is hilarious.
Kate’s fastest mind change ever, based on
Nothing except jacks good looks.
Sawyer shud b able to win against Jack in a fight.
That end scene with Juliet n sawyer was heartbreaking. I was never a fan of Juliet (didn’t like the way the actress played her) but omg was horrible to watch this. Reminded me of the opening scene from Cliffhanger, which scarred me for life.
The screen going white at the end was fantastic. What a Brilliant season finale.
Lost suffers from Season 5's excellence. It's the best season in the show, imo. You just can't top it. But still, enjoy the journey ahead!
Now we see why so many think S5 is the best. One of the greatest season finales in TV history. Of course, we said that about 3 and 4. Can S 6 keep up the streak? This show needs you Elie.
The answer to what lies in the shadow of the statue is:
"He who will destroy the minions."
@@John_Locke_108 😆
Finale in a nutshell: We are the causes of our own suffering.
Juliet was the only flashback without Jacob.
They got to the Swan so quick because Hurley drove them in the van.
The fans refer to the man dressed in back as simply "The Man in Black" or "MiB" .. some people call him "Flocke," for "fake Locke," but I've always hated that nickname.
Now we know Locke potentially died twice. The first time, Jacob’s touch appeared to bring him back to life after he was pushed from that 8th floor window. The second time when Ben strangled him was his second death. RIP John Locke
"Dead is dead, you don't get to come back from that."
I don't think Jacob literally brought Locke back to life. He may have just been unconscious and Jacob "accelerated" his healing.
@nickstark8640 completely disagree - dead is dead and nothing I've seen in the show narrative shows otherwise
@@nickstark8640 While I would typically say “dead is dead” I do actually agree Locke momentarily died from the fall.
The only reason I feel comfortable saying that is because it was so soon after he died. We saw Jack bring Charlie back to life in season one when he had been dead for several minutes.
So I do think Jacob has the ability to bring someone back to life if it is soon enough that modern medicine could theoretically intervene to save someone.
I understand why this is debated. Then again, this is not an ordinary show. No one in recorded history has ever fallen from that height and landed on their back and survived. Remember Locke was told it was a miracle he survived. Locke wasn’t resuscitated by some procedure. He literally had hands laid on him and was instantaneously revived.
@@nickstark8640 I also understand why it is debated, but the original comment is stated as if it was fact. And it is not fact, is subjective, and reasonable people can come to different conclusions so telling Elie this as if it is fact will not be beneficial for his viewing.
Big RIP to John Locke here. Ben was right, miracles happen here, but dead is dead.
And dang it Richard, you dropped the ball big time. You knew Locke was different and you knew dead was dead. And you still got played.
Why didn't Illana say something? She knew Locke wasn't really Locke. She screwed up, too.
@@John_Locke_108 I don't blame Richard, as "Locke" was quite convincing in his words. And who was Ilana supposed to tell about this? Maybe she just didn't have the opportunity and time at that moment? Since they were on Hydra Island
@@John_Locke_108 But I agree with you that Richard and Ilana screwed up, in a way. I was just trying to find an excuse for them. I wondered if things could have turned out differently, or if it was inevitable. I think a lot of us screwed up.
@@DmitryUlybinAbc Grab an outrigger and send someone tell the others. Ben mentioned going to the temple last season. She could have sent someone to tell those folks.
@@John_Locke_108 I agree. She was clearly in no hurry.
Jacks stubbornness VS
All of Space/Lost and Time 😆
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Locke's story always breaks my heart, I will say it time and time again. Used and abused his whole life, and all he wanted was to be wanted and needed.
"John's the guy?" John's dead, man. :P
I think he got a little confused for a second but I'm pretty sure he eventually got it.
At least he's done thinking that Richard and the man in black are the same actor and character.
Imagine if it ended here 🤑😎
Remember when Ben said "We're the good guys"? Well, maybe he USED to be on the side of good.
Namaste Elie. Merry Christmas!
The image of Jack nailing a 3 point nuke shot is hilarious. And we saw him do it in season 4 so it's not so crazy.
Let's go!
Poor minion 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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I'm worried that the minion will be even worse off in the next episode. 😭
No, Elie, Juliet was doing it not cuz of her parents. She did it cuz of all the looks during Rose-Bernard scene in their love triangle that you missed in previous episode and 2 more scenes before that when Sawyer called Kate "freckles".
4:20 Miles did not show up untill season 4, you mean Walt
They look the same so it's understandable.
@@John_Locke_108 😆
You should go back and watch Dead is Dead, its an even better episode seeing the master manipulator Ben getting manipulated so easily by the MIB!
It really is even better after knowing it's not Locke. All the clues are laid out in Dead id Dead. And while Ben has been being manipulated... the real John Locke was manipulated by MiB even more.
That poor minion! 😂
is this what happened all along and the incident was them setting off the nuke or was Daniel correct and they were the variables that made it possible to create a new timeline? hmm
Where do you think you're going blondie??!
When I was watching the show for the first time I was furious about them killing Juliet but it is actually kind of fitting that she gets to be the one to set off the hydrogen bomb.
But yeah her death scene always gets me. "The Incident" might be Giacchino's best score of the entire show.
No bro you didn’t get it 😂😂 wait for the next episode
Warnings ! No Minions has been injured in this video. 🤣