RTX 4060 Ti in a Optiplex...Great Idea?
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
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40-series in an Optiplex... I dub this build the "Chaos Potato."
I have a 1660 super in mine. It's actually decent if you upgrade the CPU and PSU
@@AndyKPOV Same tho my i5 pc is custom. I can destroy most games at very high 60fps but the CPU prevents frame rates higher than 60 on average.
@@kyosefgofa yea same i used to pair my 3060ti with my i5 6500💀 i would get 60-90fps at any graphics settings but only because my cpu would max out before hitting 120fps even on low settings so i just cranked the graphics and had the same exact fps, i also have a slower 30$ 250gb ssd so maybe thats why cuz i upgraded to the ryzen 5 5600x and get good fps and graphics but i still studder which i think is from the ssd, pro tip, spend your money on a good cpu/ssd combo because mid range gpus still get hella good fps and would feel smoother than gettung a high end card on a low end cpu if you get what im saying, i used to use a 1060 6gb and my best advice is to get a good cpu to max out your gpu first, then upgrade the graphics, because youll have alot more headroom to use discord/ other apps while gaming, that was my biggest problem, my cpu would max out and my 3060ti would be at 20-40% usage and couldint use discord cuz my cpu was maxed out, even with accelarated hardwear on
My only question is HOW DID THIS OPTIPLEX HANDLE THAT?! That PSU is probably really efficient along with the GPU. Need more of these RTX dell videos
Optiplex has god mode on
Real answer (probably): cpu bottlenck results in lower gpu utilisation.
It's not really efficient, the GPU is just being bottlenecked pretty heavily, which reduces how much power it consumes.
The rtx was being bottlenecked so wasn't running at its full potential
Because the GPU wasn't doing anything most of the time.
My friend had a prebuilt with a r5 3600 and 310w psu, I gave him a gtx 1080 and it ran just fine with that psu, and if Im not wrong the 1080 uses more wattage than a 4060 ti, but it was a better pair cuz the 1080 isnt bottleneckt by the r5 3600
I did the same thing but with a rx 580 8GB. Changed the powersupply and modded the case to install a front fan. Still working to this day.
Yup i run an optiplex 7010 with an E3-1230V2 ( I7-3770ish ) and an RX-580 8GB. Runs really well for the age of the system. Eventually, I'll upgrade to an optiplex with a 7th gen I7 or a Precision with an equivalent Zeon. Those prebuilt Dell office systems are great value for money, depending on what you're planning to play with them.
i did the same but with a refurbished inspiron. the i5 4460 was god awful in games though
I did this and flipped them
@@GodSaveTheUnitedStates I've got the same right now lol
I had a Optiplex 9020 i7 4790k 16g ram. Put in a EVGA RTX 2060 XC Ultra. Had to drill out the drive bay cage rivets to make it fit. Also had to connect a second power supply that sat on top of the case with a cheater power supply jump start PCB. Worked great till I got my current system. I called it Frankenstein.
I had a 4790k with 16gb as well. But I had a 1080ti and it rocked solid.
@@jponz85 With the stock PSU?
Was it a custom PC or a Dell or other ie HP?
@@jeffmcnulty6589 custom built
I hammered the HDD cage
watching toasty bros mess with computers scratches my itch to mess with computers when i dont have the budget for it
I already upgraded to a 650 watt psu in my optiplex. The biggest issue has always been fitting the card, this is neat. This is the new ultimate top line budget gpu for the optiplex! I have a gtx 1060 6g and it’s longer than the 4060.
how do you fit the PSU in mini tower? and what PSU do you use? i also plan on doing that
and for the GPU fitting, im thinking of buying GPU riser and put the GPU on the outside of the tower, which involves drilling out the case
According to tech powerup the maximum TDP of the 4060 Ti is only 160 W which is pretty efficient for the performance it gives. While the i5 4590 uses only 84 W. So 290 W power supply should be able to power it, but they do recommend at least 450 W for it.
I've never seen a GPU with dedicated power pulling 75 watts from the PCIe slot. Most pull very little and get most from the PEG connector(s). SATA can handle about 54 watts per connector, so you're overloading the SATA connectors by an unhealthy margin IF you weren't massively bottlenecked. But people really need to stop associating 80+ ratings with quality. The Optiplex systems around this time could be found with 80+ Bronze and 80+ Gold ratings, as well as no 80+ certification what so ever. It has nothing to do with quality now, just as back then when 80+ was still relatively new. If you look at the 400 watt power supply HP used in the Z220 back then, you'll find no 80+ certification, despite meeting the requirements for 80+ Platinum. It just wasn't as big of a deal back then.
Now, as to your power figures... the 4060 Ti was never going to reach it's board power rating in games because you were never really hitting over half of the GPU's utilization, so it shouldn't be surprising that a heavily bottlenecked card doesn't consume a lot of power. There was never any concern because the CPU is just too slow to keep up with the 4060 Ti for power consumption to ever be an issue, unless you wanted to test in a synthetic benchmark.
That being said, I've pushed these PSU's well past 300 watts from the wall in testing for hours, and they handled it. They have built in protections like OCP. System immediately shut off when I tried to use a 1080. They're actually a lot higher quality than people give them credit for.
That's true. Even on my setup, which has a seriously undervolted 3050, most of the 83 watts it consumes is coming from the connector.
And people called me crazy for putting a Gtx 1070 in an optiplex
not bad it a good combo if you got a i7
Great video and build! I would like to add, I'm probably gonna get some hate for this, but the best card for a 9020 with an i7 4770/4790, in my experience, has been an RX 6600. I expected an x8 gen 4 card to take a slight impact but these ones have been the most stable, including one ran without a PSU upgrade for experimental purposes only
love the video. You do these crazy things so that viewers can see what hapens at zero risk to themselves, also good entertainment
Do more videos like this with high end cards in optiplexs!
This card would be running on pcie 3 as well so that might help lower the power draw since it is like putting watered down gas in a race car.
I also have an Optiplex (3010MT) and run it with a SeaSonic 520W PSU. They are standard connections! NO "Dell-Only"!! You can use ANY PSU!!
The 3010 and 9010 are great like that. I built one of each.
People always do have criticisms about everything. When you were explaining about the psu stuff. I was like yeah. Back then I was using a 1080 TI with a 550 watt gold rated psu. People always said "oh your gpu is gonna break". After 6 years I bought a 3070 and my 1080 TI is still fine I just replaced it since I wanted more FPS.
They don't realize that these dells sip power
I successfully fed both a 2060 ti and a rx580 on a 550 watt psu using a 5950x
Yeah, I put in a new power supply in an Optiplex for a 1050ti a few years ago. I just needed an adapter cable for the motherboard.
Would setting a power limit on the GPU help? Would be interesting if GPU has a slight undervolt and a power limit of 70% in afterburner the level of efficiency that is acheivable in an optiplex and whether this would make a "budget" 4k 40fps PC!
My company had so many of those that eventually made it to re-sellers. Solid little machines when we had them. You guys should try out the big brother of those. Dell Precision workstations. The 5810 / 5820's we had ran Xeon Cores and 32 GB RAM.
I had one after an amd athlon mahine. Night and Day difference. It always ramped up ist fens on boot like a server tho.
Thats one thing I love about this channel. "We actually know what we are doing because we are doing it, and showing you what is actually happening" instead of conjecture from people who are like "If you arent using a Ryzen 12 12000x3d and 9090Ti with 5Tb of RAM with a 256k monitor you are doing it wrong".
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Have you done a review on the Shiva 2? Because I'm thinking about buying it from Amazon but idk if it's worth it.
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Most VGA pick up only 30-40W from the PCIe slot. The 75W is a theoretical max. But it is overall depens on the VGA eletronic design.
It is physics aynway. Not you decide how much of power want the VGA from the slot. The engineers decide it in the factory.
Shows how robust those power supplies are. If it was an Stgabron you have ended the video with a fire extinguisher.
There's a OEM dell 360 watt power supply you can put in these optiplex MT cases. this will drive pretty much any graphics card with a single 6 pin on it that doesn't also pull 75 from the motherboard, and probably some that do. I'm assuming the motherboard has a single 4 pin and single six pin connector on it. Might make things work better.
There are also cheap chinese universal optiplex MT power supplies that have all the connectors on them, and supposedly work in most cases. They shoudl solve the power issue if the motherboard can handle 75 from the slot.
Will it fit?... adapters on adapters for the power is just asking for a fire. Good thing you told people not to do that.
What about using a SATA to 6-pin adapter for a GPU with a TDP under 100 watts?
The power draw is low because the GPU is being under utilised
Xeons from that generation should handle that card easy any 8core+ chips to be precise,4cores 4threads is just supper limiting
Would love to see this in one of the Lenovo P520s 🙏🙏🙏
literally im ordering mine cause there vid on it
Very tight for $500. Hey. At least you can fully ray trace in cyperpunk 2077. Should have tried portal rtx. That would have been another revelation.
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Really shows you 4th gen can still get up and go
Pair this puppy with a GTX 1060 6GB or one of those cheap RX 580s and you got a decent gaming PC that will run damn near anything
Granted, Pairing one with a 4060 makes zero sense, but if you've got $200 in your pocket a i7 4790 and RX 580 wouldn't be a bad idea
Build sheet:
Dell optiplex (i7 4790, ram and HDD doesn't really matter) $80
2x8GB ddr3 off amazon $16
Cheap RX 580 8GB $60
480GB SSD $22
Apevia 600w power supply $27
Total Cost: $205
Next video rtx 4090 + i5 2400 in dell optiplex 790, I want to see that except pc won’t boot with a stock psu so upgrade it, find a way to fit a 4090 in a optiplex 790
Modern power supplies are alot better than decades ago.
I run a sleeper rig with an old Antec case. The biggest issue you are going to face is heat However, some smart use of custom power curves for your video card can shave off alot of heat out of the system. I actually think a 4090 is the wrong card for this kind of setup, something like a 3050 or 4060 would pair alot better.
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I tried to make use out of a mining motherboard for gaming on the weekend. It's got an i5-6600k and a 1660 super in it but unfortunately it seems like the GPU can only run at X1 speed as it has to use a riser plugging into a gen 3 usb on the motherboard. Janky as it gets 😅
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so i used to do the same, i used to pair my 3060ti with my i5 6500 dell optiplex💀 i would get 60-90fps at any graphics settings but only because my cpu would max out before hitting 120fps even on low settings so i just cranked the graphics and had the same exact fps, i also have a slower 30$ 250gb ssd so maybe thats why cuz i upgraded to the ryzen 5 5600x and get good fps and graphics but i still studder which i think is from the ssd, pro tip, spend your money on a good cpu/ssd combo because mid range gpus still get hella good fps and would feel smoother than gettung a high end card on a low end cpu if you get what im saying, i used to use a 1060 6gb and my best advice is to get a good cpu to max out your gpu first, then upgrade the graphics, because youll have alot more headroom to use discord/ other apps while gaming, that was my biggest problem, my cpu would max out and my 3060ti would be at 20-40% usage and couldint use discord cuz my cpu was maxed out, even with accelarated hardwear on
Been looking at upgrades for my 8930. I noticed the power started to spike when you had the point of failure, I wonder if a 6600 XT would have been a better upgrade for that PSU. Mine is 460W, something to consider when prices drop.
try getting rx 5700 it's cheap rn
I would assume not as the two cards have the same tdp
its actually slower than the 3060 ti for some reason I think its the x9 lane instead of the x16 and that they have the same number of cuda cores all though a new generation!
Need more this type of videos
Thank you for giving me my next build
you guys are so good at your jobs you make Linus tech tips look like review tech USA in tech review capability nothing else
I'm about to purchase a RTX 4060 to and put in my my Optiplex 790 with i7-2600 with 16 GB of RAM.
It's Girthytiktak!! Lmao. Love all yalls videos. Can't wait for the stream today!
I think that you can use the rtx 4060 ti on an I5 4TH GEN if you don't have the budget for the other parts like CPU, so instead buy a used dell optiplex for 70 or 80 bucks and you are good to go until you buy the missing part/s
i like the new 12vhpwer just because i have a 4090 and it saved me having to running 4x pcie cables in my pc case which does not have alot of space behind the mb tray
Video idea: 1000$ build with a used workstation and a 600$ used 3080ti for real 4K gaming.
It would also work with 2x molex to an 8-pin?
Can only one SATA wire support the power draw or do you have to double up (2) satas to one 8 pin.
The i3 13100f is 65$, it's a banger deal
it would be a nice video idea
Looked like the old cpu was definitely bottlenecks the gpu which limited its power consumption a lot.
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hello try to try the processed i5 6500 to see both is the performance, with 32GB of DDR4 RAM, and its solid disk M2
I have a MSI 2060 super. Can I directly plug in the 4060ti and use the existing 1x8 pin connector currently attached to my 2060s?
I put a 1080 into my office with that exact amount of clearance space left. The 1080 died within 12 hrs of use 😅
they really should release a 3050 with a 75 watt tdp. with how good power consumption is on 40 series it would make sense….also dlss frame gen hugely helps older cpus
I have a 3050 and I undervolted it (MSI Afterburner's auto OC + flattening the curve around the core boost), so it only uses about 83 watts max. It's a solid, efficient performer, especially for deep learning applications or casual gameplay.
@@Magnulus76 yeah but 30 series doesnt have frame gen, does itß
@@florider_hd As far as I know, that's only useful if you have a 144Hz monitor.
@@Magnulus76 nah it also helps older systems to reach 60fps on hard to run games
THE VIDEO I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!
Man I've been asking for RX7600 gpu
Please have more than one Fire extinguisher on hand.
You guys need more than one!
You should add processor usage on riva
Turn up the resolution and the frames will go up in cyberpunk.
I cannot believe this worked, that's crazy. 😭
Change out that CPU for Xeon E3-1271v3 for like $30 on E-bay
4050 is a pretty cool card
how many Dell optiplex desktops do you have?
Can run RTX 2060 super if i buy optitlex tower? What i need for that first before?
Try it in a T3620 just send it i7700 I'm running a 3060ti with a 600w ps I'm certain that the 4060ti will do some work
I became a psu hater after 2 fried power supply units, everything can keep working fine for months, even years before a single capacitor decides it's enough for him, then you realize your hdd died, so you replace it, but two months later the new one dies too, this time you decided to keep using the pc without the hdd, but everytime you match a certain wattage on your pc it makes a bsod, so you realize it's your psu, maybe the next time you turn on the pc you realize the protections already has been used for the same reason so they didnt handled with the psu this time, your motherboard and gpu died, maybe the cpu too. That was the moment i decided to always check where the psu were built, what protections does it have and how many warranty i can get from their publishers before slap it on my expensive pc, its already expensive so extra 50 bucks in safety is not gonna be a big difference
You should try it with an i7 in it 🤔
I9
Would RX 6600 be fine on an OEM PSU 400W (HP Z240)?
i have a optiplex 5050ssf and im pretty sure it can have any 6-7 gen cpu but can it use a i9 7th gen?
so why dont you put in a better power supply and then run another benchmark? show what it can do?
you legit built my pc besides the psu and gpu i have a 600w smart psu and a gtx 1060 6gb in it
I am shocked your insurance agent hasn't fired you from watching these videos LOL
oh boy, this is going to be a fun video isn't it?
I entered a contest to win a 4060 TI and my mobo came out of an optiplex if I win I'll try make a video of it.
2060 is as far as I would go as a option for the dell lmao I have my old haswell gaming pc and so I threw my new pc's 4090 in there and it crapped it's pants it was not having a nice day at all XD Don't get me wrong haswell is still great for gaming just not with the newest gen of graphics lol that 4790k gave me 8 years of solid performance and never let me down in any game.
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please include fc in your test catalogue😁. pretty please🙂
what is the best system you can make in a optiplex under 700 dollars
You’re better off just building a PC at that price point.
In the US with that money you can set it up around a RX 6700 XT.
could i pair the 4060 ti with a ryzen 7 5700x 32gb ram 4 sticks of 8 gb a 500 watt power supply
Hey guys I want to by a Ryzen 5600g pc from your website but I saw it for 600 hundred dollars and my budget is 350 do u have any recommendations for a cheaper Solution
should I buy a 4060 Ti for my i5 8400 CPU?
Where is my Fortnite gameplay guys I love watching that as it is my main game. I thought no if you do play Fortnite low settings gameplay would also be good as that would show people the game as they would play it.
I can give you Fortnite gameplay on my FX8320 and Radeon HD 7950 3GB Twin Frozr iii but it won't be pretty. 😂
@@BREEZYM6015 oh helll na
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WHEN YOU HAVE A CPU BOTTLENECK YOU NEEED TO UP THE SETTING TO GET THE BEST FPS
It crashed at the ended and defaulted over to the I ter IGpU. That why you got 2 frames. Power draw said it all what happened. Lol
How would the CPU graphics send itself out of the GPU?
@Safetytrousers unless they disable this in device manager wi dows use the 2nd gpu it k kw is installed to keepthe computer from blue screen crashing. Default windows behavior. Seen this enough times.
i would like to see this test done with a dell 7040 ?
ok guys serious question... i got one of these optiplex and i wanna put a 4060 LOW PROFILE (gigabyte made one) on my optiplex it has an i7 4790 so the bottleneck should br better (still bad but better) and a 290w PSW and if i have to change the power supply then so be it but fyi this low profile version only takes 115w?
A 650w for a 4060? I would use a 550 at best albeit a good one.
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This is a 432$ all new parts gaming pc that i put togther im wondering if you guys would build it and make a vid on it becuase ive been runing it for a few months and i think its very good for the price.
So, put a 600w psu inside and try for frame rates
FYI windows 10 keys are worth like 3$ don think $20 - 30 is a good deal.
HP Pavilion with 400w psu would be perfect
Amazing video. ❤❤❤❤
What I think is happening here is the 4060 is being bottlenecked by the decade old cpu causing it to draw less power therefore allowing you to game without consequence, but if this were put into a newer optiplex, let’s just say you probably won’t have anymore optiplex to game on..
The newer optiplex couldn’t handle it or it would work?
@@key2shawn154 I don’t think it would work, the only ones I would risk it on would be the 7010-7040, no newer optiplex would work, the rtx 4060 is rated at 115 tdp, which is 8 points higher than the rated tdp of a gtx 1650 super, I have seen people put a rx 470 in their 7040 which is rated at 120 tdp so an rtx 4060 should be fine
@@FreeMyVoxels and so all the 7010 and 7040 would need are new power supplies a new cpu and it would be a complete somewhat gaming rig and powerful work station
@@key2shawn154 Well the 7040 has 6th gen Intel cpus so I don’t think you’d need to upgrade, they are perfectly capable of gaming, still would cause a bottleneck though. 7010 has a 3rd gen and 7020 have a 4th gen. I currently have a newer optiplex, you can buy adapters that convert the regular 24 pin to the proprietary 6 or 8 pin motherboard power that way you can use a non oem power supply
I like this vid tho but I personally use the i3 3.60ghz 4th gen optiplex 3020 till date and damn, I still enjoy using that potato 😂.