4:05 - The integration with presto is biggest one for me, recently visited Sydney Australia, where their entire ferry network is linked into the opal card system, absolute no brainer for Presto in Toronto.
The city has been looking at using the Presto card for the ferry for years. The ferry is run by the city's Parks and Recreation department so it's not just a simple matter of putting up fare gates. This is just one of many city projects that need funding and it may not be one of the higher priority projects.
Don’t forgot about the people that work on the island like myself. I work in the food department with Centreville amusement. Taking these ferries everyday is a dread as it’s always standing room only and people are really shoving and pushing you. I would love to just see better crowd control and new ferries 🙏🙏🙏
i mean if the city was being proactive there would be serious conversations about high speed ferry service all over the GTHA. Imagine high speed ferries from Hamilton, to Port Credit, Toronto, all the way to Oshawa.
ideally even if they use same sized ships they could add an upper ramp so the stairs to the upper level would be redundant. the other thing they could do is extend the tunnel that you can walk through to the island airport to give people a choice and an option in case the ferries are unable to operate. other than that i agree presto would be an excellent integration
I love how we insist on opening up access to the waterfront, but we aren't willing to take advantage of our biggest natural resource for transit and getting around. We just talk a big game. Some world class city this is. (Metrolinx needs to take over the ferries. They'll do a better job of expanding water transit than the TTC/City)
Yes. Metrolinx is the answer. They have a stellar reputation and have never come in over budget or past deadlines on any project. They are completely transparent and accountable as well. This is a great idea.
@@TagusMan your problem (I presume with the ECLRT) is with SNC, not Metrolinx. It took them a long time but they’re finally coming close to meeting their objective for existing. Metrolinx is getting a bum wrap and they’re not the design, build or maintenance teams for any of the projects currently underway. But your sarcasm is noted. Not in any way contributory to the conversation, but duly noted anyway.
My reading of the documents about the new ferries is at odds with this video. First, the existing ferries are old, and the two new ferries are intended to completely replace them. Five years ago, before city council decided the new ferries should be electrically propelled, the recplacement ferries were going to cost $25 million. Electrically powered ferries will cost $92 million -- however that price does not include the charging infrastructure. I have read estimates it will cost add an additional $40 million for its charging infrastructure, alone. During the off-season the big ferries stop serving the Island, only the small, ro-ro ferry the Ongiara remains in service. The Ongiara is also very old. I believe the new ferries are meant to replace it as well. This video claims the new ferries will look like the old ferries. I am afraid you may have relied on ill-informed artist's conceptions. The new ferries are designed to be considerably larger than the old ferries. The new ferries hulls are the same size as one another, but their passenger capacities differ, because one only carries passengers, while the other is also equipped to carry vehicles. The passenger only vessel will be able to carry 1300 passengers, while the mixed use ferry can only carry 650 passengers.
There's a problem oh look come into the city on weekend and expect access to ferries in a time line that is expected by the visitor whether its a reasonable assumption or not. When there were fewer venues to draw our attention the island on weekends holidays eas always busy. People lack patience and this need for immediate gratification and don't keep me waiting is childish. If you do your homework and plan there are easier access to the island buy your tickets on line and take a smaller ferry to one of the other islands and walk to centre islanf its not that big a deal come prepared that it will be busy in the summet on weekends which means waiting.
4:05 - The integration with presto is biggest one for me, recently visited Sydney Australia, where their entire ferry network is linked into the opal card system, absolute no brainer for Presto in Toronto.
The city has been looking at using the Presto card for the ferry for years. The ferry is run by the city's Parks and Recreation department so it's not just a simple matter of putting up fare gates. This is just one of many city projects that need funding and it may not be one of the higher priority projects.
Don’t forgot about the people that work on the island like myself. I work in the food department with Centreville amusement. Taking these ferries everyday is a dread as it’s always standing room only and people are really shoving and pushing you. I would love to just see better crowd control and new ferries 🙏🙏🙏
i mean if the city was being proactive there would be serious conversations about high speed ferry service all over the GTHA. Imagine high speed ferries from Hamilton, to Port Credit, Toronto, all the way to Oshawa.
That wouldn't be financially viable, just like it was for the failed Rochester-Toronto ferry.
Why would we add a "fast ferry" that can 80kph when we have GO Trains that do 150kph??
@@tompw3141 redundancy, besides small infrastructure costs.
good video! good ideas! :)
Will you be making another Eglinton update video?
ideally even if they use same sized ships they could add an upper ramp so the stairs to the upper level would be redundant. the other thing they could do is extend the tunnel that you can walk through to the island airport to give people a choice and an option in case the ferries are unable to operate. other than that i agree presto would be an excellent integration
Have you thought of contacting Lane Man to address this crucial issue?
I love how we insist on opening up access to the waterfront, but we aren't willing to take advantage of our biggest natural resource for transit and getting around. We just talk a big game. Some world class city this is.
(Metrolinx needs to take over the ferries. They'll do a better job of expanding water transit than the TTC/City)
Yes. Metrolinx is the answer. They have a stellar reputation and have never come in over budget or past deadlines on any project. They are completely transparent and accountable as well. This is a great idea.
@@TagusMan your problem (I presume with the ECLRT) is with SNC, not Metrolinx. It took them a long time but they’re finally coming close to meeting their objective for existing.
Metrolinx is getting a bum wrap and they’re not the design, build or maintenance teams for any of the projects currently underway.
But your sarcasm is noted. Not in any way contributory to the conversation, but duly noted anyway.
My reading of the documents about the new ferries is at odds with this video.
First, the existing ferries are old, and the two new ferries are intended to completely replace them.
Five years ago, before city council decided the new ferries should be electrically propelled, the recplacement ferries were going to cost $25 million. Electrically powered ferries will cost $92 million -- however that price does not include the charging infrastructure. I have read estimates it will cost add an additional $40 million for its charging infrastructure, alone.
During the off-season the big ferries stop serving the Island, only the small, ro-ro ferry the Ongiara remains in service. The Ongiara is also very old. I believe the new ferries are meant to replace it as well.
This video claims the new ferries will look like the old ferries. I am afraid you may have relied on ill-informed artist's conceptions. The new ferries are designed to be considerably larger than the old ferries. The new ferries hulls are the same size as one another, but their passenger capacities differ, because one only carries passengers, while the other is also equipped to carry vehicles. The passenger only vessel will be able to carry 1300 passengers, while the mixed use ferry can only carry 650 passengers.
If the City doesn't renew the lease required for the airport, then we could use the pedestrian tunnel to access the whole island :-)
the city didn't build the tunnel, unfortunately. Porter is a family business.
Water taxis are great
... except they carry only a few people. They are like taxis on land - not much use for when you need to move thousands of people.
There's a problem oh look come into the city on weekend and expect access to ferries in a time line that is expected by the visitor whether its a reasonable assumption or not. When there were fewer venues to draw our attention the island on weekends holidays eas always busy. People lack patience and this need for immediate gratification and don't keep me waiting is childish. If you do your homework and plan there are easier access to the island buy your tickets on line and take a smaller ferry to one of the other islands and walk to centre islanf its not that big a deal come prepared that it will be busy in the summet on weekends which means waiting.