Okay so I just watched the latest Pokémon horizons episode and it’s was insane, so watching that previous filler was worth it to get to see the latest episode.
I bet you'll otherwise gonna say that Ash overstayed his welcome if he's still around. Ironic that the people who wants Ash to be ousted are also the ones who beg for him to come back. We don't need him in the anime for a very long time unless it's a cameo, or a mention.
Are you kidding me Pokemon Horizons is amazing. The Pokemon anime finally has a proper interesting storyline that carries through each episode, unlike the episodic nature of the previous anime where you can easily get a sense of what's going on by watching any episode. The new characters and mystery/adventure theme is a breath of fresh air. I really want Ash to return but I feel like that should be later on once this story is properly developed a bit more
Ngl if they concluded ash's journey properly in pokemon journey this probably wouldn't happen. I like the idea of a new character for the series but I just find it funny how his last season was shared with another character we'll never see again
I'll tell you one thing; I dunno about Roy, but from the beginning they Pushed Liko to be "the new Ash" but she’s 180° opposite off him ( I dunno if we can put it under "gender swap" category, but it's definitely a female character replacing an existing male character qwo has little to no issues and changing her to be the exact opposite of him and some people think it's better while realistically it's worse). No2 also pokemon looks like any other anu Anime that aren't pokemon, or even the pokemon wannabe animes ( Digimon,Bakugan, Beyblade (who at least in burst did goof job in switching pridafonists), To kai watch and more. Not that those serieses wasn't good and successful but they would die to be as bigas pokemon, almost everyone knows who ash ketchum is, but most likely only people who are fans of the other showa know who is Valt Aoi or Nate Addams or Tai that can't remember his last name). Sorry for the lecture, final row Ash needs to come back do he can give back thatsomewhat magical vibe the original pokemon anime had (newer animes like journeys, sun and moon war pretty bland and kids ugly also and I think at least for myself I can add XYZ and black and white under this umbrella cause I didn't enjoyed them as much, but it's still has a bit of tis spark,nit like older guns but it's there)
I mean, people were glazing Studio Perriot like crazy for the tybw arc and still are despite Studio Perriot fumbling Boruto and Black Clover anime adaptations respectively.
@@akatsukigajou1639 Toei clears them almost every week. Toei proves you can have quality animation on a weekly basis so I don't know why Pierrot's weeklys look so bad. I've been suffering Pierrot since the Naruto days and can't believe how after all these years the quality only went up by a LITTLE bit. SMH 🤦🏾♂🤦🏾♂
I haven’t been able to find a Japanese dub of Horizons (Netflix only did English for Journeys so I’m expecting the same thing with Horizons), but it is odd to have so many supervisors. The problem with the anime previously wasn’t Ash, since we have had anime that follow a protagonist for a good long time like One piece. The main issue of Journeys was the lack of progression and always not wanting innovate in terms of the story. Ash never seemed to be going forward in his Quest to be a Pokémon Master and the crew seemed hell bent on keeping it that way just to keep the whole childhood fantasy of going on a summer adventure. Pokémon team in all of the media cant seem to grasp that nothing is eternal and that growth needs to happen… From the little bits I’ve seen in UA-cam and the summary of the episodes, Liko and Roy do not seem to be bad protagonist. However I am afraid that they could ruin them like they did with Goh in Journeys…😔
@@chakonleung8675 Yes, First of all what do ypu mean by salt and what is the real value if salt suppose you went into a fancy chinese restaurant or any else where the waiter brings the most expensive dish where the dish look so fancy,cool,good looking or any describe able thing if the salt is missing it is tasteless,you wont enjoy, the meaning of the dish is meaningless and you will hate it
@@chakonleung8675 same thing ash is so valuable and because of him we get to know what is the real meaning of pokemon is I had s old folks you know a group of grandparents who doesn't watch pokemon never in their life but they know who is ash and pikachu why because of the popularity of the best duo that is ash and pikachu
Pokémon is not ended! What are talking about! Ash is a MASTER Pokémon! He can not do anything now! His journey is over! It would just be redundant at this point!
@@nazomius7033 I'm being serious Sun and Moon was on point when it comes to animation don't be one of those guys who confuses "art" and "animation" its like people get there opinions from Social media nowadays lol bruhh!!😭😭🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
be so for real, have you even watched journeys or horizons? we’re 16 episodes into horizons and there’s yet to be a single filler episode so you’re just telling lies. a show going on break for two weeks and then having an episode with some recap doesn’t make the series bad, i feel like you’re not even watching the series that you’re reporting on because pokemon horizons doesn’t look any worse than any other season has
Yeah this dude is racist cuz Roi is a black man hero dude im not lying they are super racist watch them saying they hate the show just bc of lack of ash lol it’s just racism. Let us live
Yeah, new Pokémon feels extremely weak even in compare to first Pokémon seasons, it's just not that, combat is poor, animation is meh, overall anime is pretty boring and bland, on top of that throwing Ash away from series to replace him with 2 most boring and simple characters is just nail in coffin
Pokemon which IP is worth billions of $$$ isnt able to find animators while IPs like One Piece, Naruto, etc. which makes less have beautiful animation and story.
They don't even need to because they know people will watch/like pokemon regardless. They'll start to try when it gets really bad but for now, I don't think things will change.
Seriously Journeys, this is why Pokemon Journeys The Series fails to extend the episode for Galar Regions especially adding other gym leaders like Kabu that appears in Twilight Wings. Thankfully, Horizons was able to address the problem of the Journeys Aspects as adds kabu. It’s completely becomes, Pokemon Horizon Does What Journeys Don’t
I have been watching the new one and its not that good, it feels empty, story progression too slow, only the boy has personality, the combats are pretty much hit and runs, its missing alot, they literaly killed the anime, last series where Goh was the focus the episodes this characters was in were bad and always on drama due to bad writting, but when was a Ash episode everything was good, they sending off Ash like that was bad ideia, we could be seeing him continuing his adventures through regions.
Pokémon season one came out when I was about five years old and I grew up with Pokémon. However, Ash was over 20 years old by the time the show ended. He accomplished what he wanted to do. He became the Pokémon Master. He accomplished his dream and settled down. Yes it is sad to see him go but for those who knew him growing up we’re ready to see him go. Ash can’t keep traveling with kids anymore when he is no longer a kid. Besides, the Pokémon company wanted to end Ash’s story years ago. This was made clear when the creator came up with a side story about what happened to Jessie and James of Team Rocket after they decided to retire officially. They have started their own family and they have moved on. This happened in the way that did so they can express more creative freedom without the cookie cutter formula they have and have been using for the past two decades.
@@ianfransen2415 thats only the american one for twitter don't blame japan for that one I am talking about the 2020 protests/riots in America but I do agree with the part of them softening it down ever since the 1st episode.
@shokaslgbt8240 I'm saying the show got a lot better during the Kalos anime. It did feel like it was a little bit mature then the past series. That's what I'm saying.
I just hope when Horizons arrives in Germany it isn't based on the American dub like all of the Seasons and Movies with Ash were. Won't happen, though.
Maybe because new protagonist equals new era of more faithful dubbing. Their is still a good chance that the English dub will be different again though much to my disappointment. (PS. I'm from the US so my username has the English name for Kosturso which is Bewear)
There is catching pokemon but they won’t do it every episode they want to build a special team if they do like the previous season where heroes catch pokemon every episode it’s boring and they won’t use them again so there are no points. Stop complaining lol
@@chakonleung8675 come on my pokemon lover you know it luffy stays in one piece because he was meant to be for one piece thats why producers choose him from the begining and set his goal to become a pirate king yet even though luffy has more 200 episodes difference than pokemon he has not reach his goal yet and let me tell you one thing tell to anyone of the hard core one piece lover and tell them we dont want luffy bring more young,cute and young character and replace him and see what will they give respond to you😁😁
@@chakonleung8675 and actually ash goal hasn't achieved yet and even you know it you cannot hide the fact that he has achieved his goal to become a pokemon master
Lacking of Pokemon characters nose movement issues themselves But unfortunately for Pokemon aren't creatures either and such As Meowth I don't see the problem 😒🙄
As far as I know about this topic one reason why it could be bad aside from the obvious is the structure as we’ve seen throughout the Pokémon anime and with technology evolving . I would explain more but you all will get what I’m trying to say .
I don't think Twitter is a good measure to determine the quality of a product; especially those that fall under entertainment.
Fr, its just opinions
@@MischieviousJirachi true
Yup. Twitter is the worst place. Why doesn't corporate catch up already?
All ash has to do is to make an appearance in the Pokémon horizons anime and then the popularity of the show will sky rocket.
Okay so I just watched the latest Pokémon horizons episode and it’s was insane, so watching that previous filler was worth it to get to see the latest episode.
Ash just need to do an appearance ?
No..
Who is ash!? His time has ended.
I bet you'll otherwise gonna say that Ash overstayed his welcome if he's still around. Ironic that the people who wants Ash to be ousted are also the ones who beg for him to come back. We don't need him in the anime for a very long time unless it's a cameo, or a mention.
Pokemon died the day Ash and Pikachu leave
yes we need ash back
No. Grow up dude, it’s a show for kids
Have we been watching the same anime? There wasn't a recap episode after the 2 weeks. It got straight into the story again with the picnic
Ash Ketchum = Hype
Liko and Roy = Horrible
This is just my opinion.
Good thing your opinion means nothing
yes we need ash back
Same
I saw someone on reddit say Horizons had the 4th highest ratings in Japan for anime regarding episode 14.
Are you kidding me Pokemon Horizons is amazing. The Pokemon anime finally has a proper interesting storyline that carries through each episode, unlike the episodic nature of the previous anime where you can easily get a sense of what's going on by watching any episode. The new characters and mystery/adventure theme is a breath of fresh air. I really want Ash to return but I feel like that should be later on once this story is properly developed a bit more
That tells you that Twitter is Complaint Central.
everyone says there always should be new "generation" nah i rather stick to ashs old seasons those were my childhood not this
@@shinobi_animationsyes thank you
At least this has good storyline, also now it’s some other kids childhood. Stop thinking about yourself
What! I love Horizons so far!!!
Cap
Cap
🤡
Bro loves horizons💀
Yall sippin that 96 haterade
Ngl if they concluded ash's journey properly in pokemon journey this probably wouldn't happen. I like the idea of a new character for the series but I just find it funny how his last season was shared with another character we'll never see again
Bro fr that’s what I’m saying
Same man finally someone gets it 😅
they were probably just on summer vacation for 2 weeks so episode 13 had less than amazing animation bc they had less time to work for it.
Liko and Roy character is boring just like Goh
yes we need ash back
I'll tell you one thing; I dunno about Roy, but from the beginning they Pushed Liko to be "the new Ash" but she’s 180° opposite off him ( I dunno if we can put it under "gender swap" category, but it's definitely a female character replacing an existing male character qwo has little to no issues and changing her to be the exact opposite of him and some people think it's better while realistically it's worse). No2 also pokemon looks like any other anu
Anime that aren't pokemon, or even the pokemon wannabe animes ( Digimon,Bakugan,
Beyblade (who at least in burst did goof job in switching pridafonists), To kai watch and more. Not that those serieses wasn't good and successful but they would die to be as bigas pokemon, almost everyone knows who ash ketchum is, but most likely only people who are fans of the other showa know who is Valt Aoi or Nate Addams or Tai that can't remember his last name). Sorry for the lecture, final row Ash needs to come back do he can give back thatsomewhat magical vibe the original pokemon anime had (newer animes like journeys, sun and moon war pretty bland and kids ugly also and I think at least for myself I can add XYZ and black and white under this umbrella cause I didn't enjoyed them as much, but it's still has a bit of tis spark,nit like older guns but it's there)
@@cutembtgirl2260 i feel like making a female protagonist was a mistake liko dosent fit the role of ash at all
I stopped watching, got so bored. I never get bored from watching Pokemon.
give it some time
@@kingpz9739but it is bored
@@muhamadaimanhakimi7600yes we need ash back
2:38 - "And the final results are going to be AMAZING" - said nobody ever about Studio Pierrot 🤦🏾♂
I mean, people were glazing Studio Perriot like crazy for the tybw arc and still are despite Studio Perriot fumbling Boruto and Black Clover anime adaptations respectively.
@@SolemnJockeyybw arc looks good, but they suck for fuckin up the other anime
alainchristian hey direspeckting studio pierrot is invalid😑and theres no this➡️🤦either.
@@SolemnJockeynah theres no fumbling
@@akatsukigajou1639 Toei clears them almost every week. Toei proves you can have quality animation on a weekly basis so I don't know why Pierrot's weeklys look so bad. I've been suffering Pierrot since the Naruto days and can't believe how after all these years the quality only went up by a LITTLE bit. SMH 🤦🏾♂🤦🏾♂
Atleast this new Pokemon series has a more interesting story and characters.
To be honest i'm loving Pokemon Horizons, people just need ro give it a chance theres just 15 episodes out c'mon
pokemon without ash is not a pokemon lol
POKEMON ANIME IS NOTHING WITHOUT ASH
@@Tylersingh2003cope baby boy
@@Shosholegbtawh they triggered you 😂😂😂
@@Tylersingh2003yes thank you
@@Wario1382yes ash is good
I js really wanna go back in the xy days
Fr bro even in sinnoh will be great
@@Kingmar06yes we need ash back
yes we need ash back
After seeing the animation from the Pokemon challenge world trailer I know they could do much better then this
Well, at least the storyline is better than before. Idc if it looks bad.
What happened to their noses?
Without Ash, for me it’s so bad
Facts
@@ianfransen2415a black hero isn’t gonna kill you whity
yes we need ash back
@@ianfransen2415yes we need ash back
@@Kingmar06yes we need ash back
I haven’t been able to find a Japanese dub of Horizons (Netflix only did English for Journeys so I’m expecting the same thing with Horizons), but it is odd to have so many supervisors. The problem with the anime previously wasn’t Ash, since we have had anime that follow a protagonist for a good long time like One piece. The main issue of Journeys was the lack of progression and always not wanting innovate in terms of the story. Ash never seemed to be going forward in his Quest to be a Pokémon Master and the crew seemed hell bent on keeping it that way just to keep the whole childhood fantasy of going on a summer adventure. Pokémon team in all of the media cant seem to grasp that nothing is eternal and that growth needs to happen…
From the little bits I’ve seen in UA-cam and the summary of the episodes, Liko and Roy do not seem to be bad protagonist. However I am afraid that they could ruin them like they did with Goh in Journeys…😔
gogoanime got the japanese dub iirc
welcome to tokyo - i mean....Out of Japan....so whats up in Japan?
I didn't like the pokemon animated series after sun and moon. Thought it heavily fall off after the great animation from X and Y
Horizon still looks pretty good better than the last season of Pokémon
Just give a chance to ash to continue his journey the quality will be good because of coming technology
it is still the same bro
@@hukasumi5025 Well, do you mean Ash is anything in Pokémon?
@@chakonleung8675 Yes, First of all what do ypu mean by salt and what is the real value if salt suppose you went into a fancy chinese restaurant or any else where the waiter brings the most expensive dish where the dish look so fancy,cool,good looking or any describe able thing if the salt is missing it is tasteless,you wont enjoy, the meaning of the dish is meaningless and you will hate it
@@chakonleung8675 same thing ash is so valuable and because of him we get to know what is the real meaning of pokemon is I had s old folks you know a group of grandparents who doesn't watch pokemon never in their life but they know who is ash and pikachu why because of the popularity of the best duo that is ash and pikachu
Next Gen ash will be back fully
yes we need ash back
WE NEED ASH BACK
This wouldn't have happened if the writers kept ash ketchum but yes ash ketchum's future will continue so he might appear in gen 10
Yes it would lol cope
@@mikethepokemaster2012Cry more
Yew ash is needed
0:04 who's that character?
idk but they appear in the music video of Acacia - BUMP OF CHICKEN
Can Mappa pick this one up since they wanna pick up everything else?
they seeing their families in 2027
Pokemon semi died after XYZ…
And completely died after journeys where ash left the franchise!
I hate this new appearance of Pokemon, this is why old is gold 20s are better
We really need a pokemon generations anime. It would be extremely popular.
Who else just wished Pokémon never ended and Pokémon horizons never existed
Pokémon is not ended! What are talking about! Ash is a MASTER Pokémon! He can not do anything now! His journey is over! It would just be redundant at this point!
@SuperPlacido1 well ash himself says he's still a challenger.
@@tyanajones8399 When he said that?
@@SuperPlacido1 last episode 11
@@SuperPlacido1I know he won the world championship but still they could continue the iconic show instead of replacing it with a whole new series
Indigo League Is Still Fresh
what the hell yall actin like yall want Pokemon to be animated by ufotable or some shit
Man what is this Boruto? 💀
yes we need ash back
Why are they animating like they're forced to release the sequel immediately 🤔
It’s been like that since Sun and Moon..
For some reason, XYZ peaked, and then they just gave up
money lol
It peaked in Sun and Moon Journeys is were it falls off
@@SeeMeNowJo Take it a step down, bud
@@nazomius7033 I'm being serious Sun and Moon was on point when it comes to animation don't be one of those guys who confuses "art" and "animation" its like people get there opinions from Social media nowadays lol bruhh!!😭😭🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
be so for real, have you even watched journeys or horizons? we’re 16 episodes into horizons and there’s yet to be a single filler episode so you’re just telling lies. a show going on break for two weeks and then having an episode with some recap doesn’t make the series bad, i feel like you’re not even watching the series that you’re reporting on because pokemon horizons doesn’t look any worse than any other season has
Yeah this dude is racist cuz Roi is a black man hero dude im not lying they are super racist watch them saying they hate the show just bc of lack of ash lol it’s just racism. Let us live
I WANT ASH BACK 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Same. Pulling the same crap as other game animes.
@@Wario1382 I KNOW RIGHT POKEMON ANIME IS NOTHING WITHOUT ASH
I stopped watching pokémon anime's and prefer pokémon games more
Bruh these people just want everything to be perfect just watch the anime damn
Yeah, new Pokémon feels extremely weak even in compare to first Pokémon seasons, it's just not that, combat is poor, animation is meh, overall anime is pretty boring and bland, on top of that throwing Ash away from series to replace him with 2 most boring and simple characters is just nail in coffin
Pokemon which IP is worth billions of $$$ isnt able to find animators while IPs like One Piece, Naruto, etc. which makes less have beautiful animation and story.
They don't even need to because they know people will watch/like pokemon regardless. They'll start to try when it gets really bad but for now, I don't think things will change.
so people say anime sucks now since its not like the animation from the 90s and I kinda agree the original series looked totally like an anime.
Seriously Journeys, this is why Pokemon Journeys The Series fails to extend the episode for Galar Regions especially adding other gym leaders like Kabu that appears in Twilight Wings.
Thankfully, Horizons was able to address the problem of the Journeys Aspects as adds kabu.
It’s completely becomes, Pokemon Horizon Does What Journeys Don’t
I have been watching the new one and its not that good, it feels empty, story progression too slow, only the boy has personality, the combats are pretty much hit and runs, its missing alot, they literaly killed the anime, last series where Goh was the focus the episodes this characters was in were bad and always on drama due to bad writting, but when was a Ash episode everything was good, they sending off Ash like that was bad ideia, we could be seeing him continuing his adventures through regions.
POKEMON ANIME IS NOTHING WITHOUT ASH
Bad take, pal. Anime desperately needs to go forward without ash.
@@haroldnecmann7040 NO POKEMON ANIME IS NOTHING WITHOUT ASH
@@Tylersingh2003 there's more to anime than just ash. Let it go
@@haroldnecmann7040 NO WAY I WANT ASH BACK AND THATS ALL I CARE ABOUT AND IM OBSESSED WITH ASH AND I WONT STOP UNTIL I HAVE ASH BACK AND THATS FINAL
Pokémon season one came out when I was about five years old and I grew up with Pokémon. However, Ash was over 20 years old by the time the show ended. He accomplished what he wanted to do. He became the Pokémon Master. He accomplished his dream and settled down. Yes it is sad to see him go but for those who knew him growing up we’re ready to see him go. Ash can’t keep traveling with kids anymore when he is no longer a kid. Besides, the Pokémon company wanted to end Ash’s story years ago. This was made clear when the creator came up with a side story about what happened to Jessie and James of Team Rocket after they decided to retire officially. They have started their own family and they have moved on. This happened in the way that did so they can express more creative freedom without the cookie cutter formula they have and have been using for the past two decades.
Black Clover is way past season 2 the new season would be season 5 not season 2
They should not listen to us fans, please let them cook "Pokemon team" 🎉🎉
@@ianfransen2415 thats only the american one for twitter don't blame japan for that one I am talking about the 2020 protests/riots in America but I do agree with the part of them softening it down ever since the 1st episode.
@@ianfransen2415yes we need ash back
pokemon is dead with out ash lol
Ash is not the center of Pokemon! He never was! We've had plenty of anime without Ash! So you are wrong!
It was dead since Sun and Moon.. Ash had nothing to do with its death
The anime died after XY. The staff should've kept the mature content XY had. It improved really well after the disaster called Best Wishes.
@@joshuafrizzell7856there was no maturity in Pokémon before what are you on did you grew up with the anime yeah no
@shokaslgbt8240 I'm saying the show got a lot better during the Kalos anime. It did feel like it was a little bit mature then the past series. That's what I'm saying.
Tell me about it
I just hope when Horizons arrives in Germany it isn't based on the American dub like all of the Seasons and Movies with Ash were.
Won't happen, though.
Maybe because new protagonist equals new era of more faithful dubbing. Their is still a good chance that the English dub will be different again though much to my disappointment. (PS. I'm from the US so my username has the English name for Kosturso which is Bewear)
Ash needed to go out but the anime turn even more boring than before no fights no action and no catching Pokémon
There is catching pokemon but they won’t do it every episode they want to build a special team if they do like the previous season where heroes catch pokemon every episode it’s boring and they won’t use them again so there are no points. Stop complaining lol
@@ianfransen2415yes we need ash back
we want ash back and thats our goal
How about Pokémon Horizons?
@@chakonleung8675 literally after watching pokemon horizon without ash its like a dish without its proper salt and spices and ash is likd that
@@hukasumi5025 Pokémon is not just about ash.
@@chakonleung8675 come on my pokemon lover you know it luffy stays in one piece because he was meant to be for one piece thats why producers choose him from the begining and set his goal to become a pirate king yet even though luffy has more 200 episodes difference than pokemon he has not reach his goal yet and let me tell you one thing tell to anyone of the hard core one piece lover and tell them we dont want luffy bring more young,cute and young character and replace him and see what will they give respond to you😁😁
@@chakonleung8675 and actually ash goal hasn't achieved yet and even you know it you cannot hide the fact that he has achieved his goal to become a pokemon master
Lacking of Pokemon characters nose movement issues themselves But unfortunately for Pokemon aren't creatures either and such As Meowth I don't see the problem 😒🙄
Black clover season 2 🤔
like it ever was good lmao
I love horizon
As far as I know about this topic one reason why it could be bad aside from the obvious is the structure as we’ve seen throughout the Pokémon anime and with technology evolving . I would explain more but you all will get what I’m trying to say .
The quality dropped off with Sun and Moon and it's continued to this point.
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