@@musicorsomething6723 donda was beautiful as it is.but i get what youre saying, the album would've been better if it was shorter, it wouldve been one of kanyes best works but you couldve phrased that better.
@@musicorsomething6723 Nah, albums in the 90s that had more than 18 had their fair share of trash and filler. I was making a point to say it's not a new thing. The reason it happens so much now, outside of streaming, is because the mixtape died. The mixtape kept the culture entertained between albums and they were also, generally filled with a lot of filler. They'd also come out more frequently as they were often times, disposable songs. The same thing is the case now with streaming. The fans dictate the "singles", however, everything goes in the charts if you're a big artist.
Interesting, I wonder if that’s why songs are shorter now too? When I was younger songs were like 5 minutes long with multiple verses and MAYBE a feature
@@musicorsomething6723I think it happened long before TikTok was a thing. I started to notice in the late 90’s early 2000’s features became more and more common. I assume that lead to more sales for less work for an artist. At first it seemed like it was a way to put young artists out there on the same label. Then transformed into everyone does 1 verse and get the biggest names possible for exposure and sales. Streaming now too encourages singles not albums
If it’s too long, as long as it’s something fresh and new from the artist, then I really fw it if it’s good. For example people hated WLR when it dropped but I had never heard this Carti before and it was great. Same with ILCK, it was a sound that only Lone really touched. Lil Tracy did it like 5 years before but he only did a few songs. Lone didn’t only do the new sound for himself, but overall it was a sound that was completely new to the genre so it was so cool to me esp since I actually enjoyed it too. Kendrick’s Mr Morale told a whole story from top to bottom and that was sick too. But if an artist just puts a bunch of random shit on album esp if it’s not much new sounds, then I don’t really care for it in the long run
I've always thought that the only thing that separates a true artist from a creator is that an artist is a lot more particular about what they put out, they're curators of their own work and their deliberate in what does or doesn't get released, almost like they're constantly working towards a bigger picture. While a creator will just release everything they do without any real intention or second thought, they make it, release it and move on to the next. Unfortunately the industry just prefers the latter, so most art forms are treated like its a mass manufacturing process. Where the artists are just factories, and the labels want the one with the most output rather than the highest quality.
@@musicorsomething6723 yup, the suits prefer the hit or miss method. Kinda like how drug dealers will ship out 10 stacked boats at once, it doesn't matter how many get caught if the 1 getting through is lucrative enough to cover the loss on the rest. Great video!
@@musicorsomething6723 and you put 2093 up there 😂 ur buggin I feel like u ain’t listen to it cuz that’s yeats most in depth album production wise and it’s his most diverse album
The internet has allowed all these artists to blow up overnight, they never had to work on their pen game. Same reason they all suck with live performances too. They never had to put in that work and grind and grind until they make it. They found that one sound they can do kinda ok and then stick to their niche for their core audience, never going past that, never growing as an artist.
@musicorsomething6723 whats worse is the ones left who dont resort to doing this, the one who take their time to make high quality music, get little to no recognition or sales.
HARD agree. I'll take a 50 minute 9 track album over a 50 minute 18 track album.
Honestly I’ve skipped so many albums just because I don’t want to sink an hour into an album that I know I’ll only kind of like.
@@thecluckster3908 exactly
Nah donda is really good its in my top 3 i dont know what you talking about
@@Lastwordss_ some great songs but you can’t say it’s not to long
@@musicorsomething6723 you calling it slop is wild lol maybe it was long but all the songs are good & the people LOVED it
@@TheChromeOzone what about all the part 2 s
@@TheChromeOzone Tell the Vision is NOT good bro😭🙏
@@musicorsomething6723 donda was beautiful as it is.but i get what youre saying, the album would've been better if it was shorter, it wouldve been one of kanyes best works but you couldve phrased that better.
I feel like you missed out on the era in the late 90s. Snoop's albums for example were minimum 20 tracks long,
@@looplst yeah and those albums are for the most part great I said there are some greatly executed long albums
@@musicorsomething6723 Nah, albums in the 90s that had more than 18 had their fair share of trash and filler. I was making a point to say it's not a new thing.
The reason it happens so much now, outside of streaming, is because the mixtape died. The mixtape kept the culture entertained between albums and they were also, generally filled with a lot of filler. They'd also come out more frequently as they were often times, disposable songs.
The same thing is the case now with streaming. The fans dictate the "singles", however, everything goes in the charts if you're a big artist.
@@looplst While i agree that's its not new it's become way more normalised with mainstream music
Interesting, I wonder if that’s why songs are shorter now too? When I was younger songs were like 5 minutes long with multiple verses and MAYBE a feature
Yeah that's the tik tok effect
@@musicorsomething6723I think it happened long before TikTok was a thing. I started to notice in the late 90’s early 2000’s features became more and more common. I assume that lead to more sales for less work for an artist. At first it seemed like it was a way to put young artists out there on the same label. Then transformed into everyone does 1 verse and get the biggest names possible for exposure and sales. Streaming now too encourages singles not albums
If it’s too long, as long as it’s something fresh and new from the artist, then I really fw it if it’s good. For example people hated WLR when it dropped but I had never heard this Carti before and it was great. Same with ILCK, it was a sound that only Lone really touched. Lil Tracy did it like 5 years before but he only did a few songs. Lone didn’t only do the new sound for himself, but overall it was a sound that was completely new to the genre so it was so cool to me esp since I actually enjoyed it too. Kendrick’s Mr Morale told a whole story from top to bottom and that was sick too. But if an artist just puts a bunch of random shit on album esp if it’s not much new sounds, then I don’t really care for it in the long run
Yeah long albums can be great like i said in the video
I've always thought that the only thing that separates a true artist from a creator is that an artist is a lot more particular about what they put out, they're curators of their own work and their deliberate in what does or doesn't get released, almost like they're constantly working towards a bigger picture. While a creator will just release everything they do without any real intention or second thought, they make it, release it and move on to the next. Unfortunately the industry just prefers the latter, so most art forms are treated like its a mass manufacturing process. Where the artists are just factories, and the labels want the one with the most output rather than the highest quality.
@@MykoMethod yes intention and vision is so important and having suits decide that usually comes out inauthentic
@@musicorsomething6723 yup, the suits prefer the hit or miss method. Kinda like how drug dealers will ship out 10 stacked boats at once, it doesn't matter how many get caught if the 1 getting through is lucrative enough to cover the loss on the rest. Great video!
the word "slop" has been kinda overused alot lately. use better and more describing words instead or atleast try to explain what you mean by "slop".
@@jst_Maxx songs that don’t have anything interesting productions boring boring lyrical content
@@musicorsomething6723 and you put 2093 up there 😂 ur buggin I feel like u ain’t listen to it cuz that’s yeats most in depth album production wise and it’s his most diverse album
The internet has allowed all these artists to blow up overnight, they never had to work on their pen game. Same reason they all suck with live performances too. They never had to put in that work and grind and grind until they make it.
They found that one sound they can do kinda ok and then stick to their niche for their core audience, never going past that, never growing as an artist.
@@oso1165 yeah there so many examples of this
@musicorsomething6723 whats worse is the ones left who dont resort to doing this, the one who take their time to make high quality music, get little to no recognition or sales.
“Hip hop” albums contain nothing, but artists like tyler the creator, travis, cole drop art thru albums not just “music”.
shut up bro 🤣🤣🤣
it is an opinion after all
Sorry but, donda DON'T follow the trend ok
@@cauasilva1130 how it’s almost 2 hours with lots of forgettable song s
Nah long album fire
@@KanyeUA so you like for all the dogs, and all of donda
@musicorsomething6723 donda fire on my momma idc abt drake
@ yeah dondas great but should have been cut down a little
Yeah long albums are fun
NO SLOP