Roger Federer OWNED Prime Novak Djokovic At This Tournament!

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  • @joycebevan8310
    @joycebevan8310 7 годин тому +4

    I just loved Roger he is by far my favourite tennis player ever.He had style and technique like no others.

  • @bukhtiarshah9843
    @bukhtiarshah9843 День тому +15

    Raz Ols love you so much ❤❤❤

  • @Prostaff90
    @Prostaff90 День тому +8

    Thank you ❤! And Roger owns him in many more ways as well including most loved, most popular, most iconic! Long live the GOAT King Roger, King of the court, ENTIRE court not just the baseline!❤❤❤

  • @mihaicristi9617
    @mihaicristi9617 День тому +47

    No disrespect, but the H2H is misleading. Federer still kept a positive score against Djokovic even after 2014 in best of 3. His main issue was best of five, where Djokovic dominated most of the times, but there were also instances like WB 14 and 19, where the match was dead equal or Federer was even the better player, the main difference being the stamina factor. Federer was also unfortunate to face the best of Djokovic, for example had Federer a slump in Slams from 2014-16, the h2h would be equal. Federer lost a lot of teritory, because he was still good enough to make the slam finals even in his 30’s. We still had the higher level, but could not keep it for that much long.

    • @msaw504
      @msaw504 День тому +7

      Federer still has more sets/games/points in their match ups showing that if he wins he dominates but if he loses its closer

    • @pierdomenicosommati443
      @pierdomenicosommati443 День тому +10

      Six years age gap. That's a damn fckng HUGE age gap in every possible sports involving heavy athletic. The fact that he remained so competitive despite that gap is nothing short of extraordinary.
      Yeah, the h2h is quite misleading, and yet Djokovic is just 8% ahead into it, which is not that much. In a 50 matches rivalry, it equals to winning/losing 2 matches only.
      Federer actually had the key for Djokovic's game (being perhaps the only player in all Nole's career who was able to push the Serbian mostly on defense in all their matches), and he showed this a lot of times... only that in the 2nd part of their rivalry, in which they played almost 70% of their h2h's, he was just too old to compete deeply with Nole into best of five matches, and also with a troubled right knee to add on that. That's too much even for somebody like Federer.
      I think that Nole is actually quite lucky that they were not the same age.

    • @molybdaenmornell123hopp5
      @molybdaenmornell123hopp5 День тому +5

      ​​@@pierdomenicosommati443 I think that begs the question why prime Federer couldn't take advantage of pre-prime Djokovic as much as prime Djokovic could take advantage of post-prime Federer. My answer is that post prime Federer went on for much longer (10+ years) than pre-prime Djokovic (5+ years). Djokovic rose more quickly than Federer fell. Had Federer fallen off a cliff after 2015, they would be level, yes.

    • @ethan76708
      @ethan76708 День тому

      @@pierdomenicosommati443shut up buddy in 2011 Federer was 29 and it obvious that once Nadal and Djokovic hit their prime Federer was exposed let’s be honest if your supposedly too old by age 29 your not even in the conversation to begin with

    • @jollymolly2521
      @jollymolly2521 День тому +4

      As I always say - Roger won the matches in his prime that he should have won. And the same for Djokovic. People love to act like the 6-year age difference didn't matter, but the reality is - in tennis time that 6 years puts Roger in a different "generation" of players than Djokovic.

  • @sergio-7952
    @sergio-7952 День тому +19

    Rog is the best in real fast courts. This one and Cincy were the only that keep the fast surface through the years and its not a coincidence there are the places where RF had played so well even against prime Djoko (Dubai 14,15 and Cincy 12, 15)

    • @MrTonyMartino
      @MrTonyMartino День тому +3

      Shanghai as well

    • @Mark-ut5oq
      @Mark-ut5oq День тому

      No he’s not-and the data shows this. Nor are your statements about courts true in any way.

    • @MrTonyMartino
      @MrTonyMartino 23 години тому +2

      @@Mark-ut5oq Dubai, Cincinnati and Shanghai were the only real fast courts in the 2010. Federer went 6-2 against Djokovic in such tournaments last decade.

    • @Mark-ut5oq
      @Mark-ut5oq 9 годин тому +1

      @@MrTonyMartino that is simply objectively false.
      UTS keeps track of court speed data. Or I should say, it “predicts” it using in match statistics to determine the speed of the court. Service hold % is a big one, and it’s *extremely correlated* to court speed. The higher the hold %, almost always the faster the surface.
      According to UTS, *all four majors in the 2010s were faster than the 2000s.* And the fastest Wimbledons were won by Djokovic (over Federer). Those courts you mentioned, in many cases, were not even amongst the fastest surfaces.
      Basically, what you’re saying has absolutely no evidence behind it. You have no sources, no evidence, no facts, no data. Just something you heard online without any research or proof.

    • @MrTonyMartino
      @MrTonyMartino 6 годин тому

      @@Mark-ut5oq "Objectively false"
      *Then proceeds to use a dumb metric*
      Technology and medical advances do wonders for the players, it's no secret to anyone they help to increase strength and acceleration, among others advantages they have over past players. Try taking a look at CPR and CPI next time instead of something that depends more on the players than the court speed itself.

  • @flyingsaucer8199
    @flyingsaucer8199 День тому +5

    Raz GOATing with this upload 👍

  • @bukhtiarshah9843
    @bukhtiarshah9843 День тому +8

    Sir Roger federer golden legend in universal love you so much miss you so much teniss history best player ❤❤❤

  • @pikeflowed
    @pikeflowed День тому +2

    Roger on top BOOM BOOM form, taking it to prime Djokovic and showing the world the range of his amazing skill, athleticism and court-craft, his artistry and pure inspired play will live for all time, his brilliance is timeless !

  • @margaretRoss-d1e
    @margaretRoss-d1e День тому +1

    Oh my goodness, absolute highest quality tennis, spectacular from both, so exciting. I love this rivalry too as much as Fedal.

  • @rijiths6723
    @rijiths6723 День тому +2

    Federer backhand (not slice) is a treat to watch
    It's purely aesthetic

    • @pierdomenicosommati443
      @pierdomenicosommati443 18 годин тому +2

      Actually his slice is literally majestic too😊 I think that his backhand side is the most underrated ever. Everybody played 80% of shots on that side, yet this was not nearly enough to keep him from harvesting an unbelievable number of wins.😊

  • @futterkulcha
    @futterkulcha День тому +2

    One can never sustain in imagination how good Federer actually was. Until we see something like this again....

  • @jollymolly2521
    @jollymolly2521 День тому +2

    It never fails to rack me up that Djokovic just couldn't handle "old" Roger's game on a fast hard court. IIRC he beat Roger 1 time in Dubai, 1 time in Cincy and 0 times in Shanghai.

  • @masters.1000
    @masters.1000 День тому +4

    Just a tease of what could have been if hard courts were this fast.

  • @plush1993
    @plush1993 День тому +2

    Great quality. The tennis tv version of these highlights has a weird low quality fuzz to it for some reason

  • @federicotown8052
    @federicotown8052 День тому +1

    Love this rivalry !

  • @christoscholevas
    @christoscholevas 7 годин тому

    Today i watched most of the AO highlights, including great players like Alcaraz, Zverev and Sinner. Now i watched Roger in this video! His game is in a totally different dimension 🎾🎾
    Too bad that we can't enjoy him nowadays 😢

  • @felixy23
    @felixy23 День тому +6

    RF on fast surfaces is totally nightmare to weak era champ Djokovic

  • @Acrillian
    @Acrillian День тому +1

    Some or all of Roger's records might get broken eventually but his playing style was much more beautiful than the baseliners and I dont think anyone will beat that

  • @tyron4
    @tyron4 День тому +2

    missing RF😢

  • @Mr-pt3yl
    @Mr-pt3yl День тому +1

    Damn not even tennis tv uploads in this video quality

  • @angelatanurdzic7508
    @angelatanurdzic7508 День тому

    Masterclass! 👍😍

  • @teephillips79
    @teephillips79 12 годин тому

    How can I be this glued to a match played years ago and I can't spend 3 minutes to watch any match today? There's a problem with my taste buds!!

    • @initialize21
      @initialize21 11 годин тому

      lol same!

    • @wimgroart1870
      @wimgroart1870 10 годин тому

      @teephillips79 what for me eases the pain is watching Alcaraz (and of course Raz Ols).

  • @spikymikey5298
    @spikymikey5298 День тому

    “commeth the hour, commeth the man”

  • @federicotown8052
    @federicotown8052 День тому

    Very balanced rivalry !

  • @びりーあいりっしゅ
    @びりーあいりっしゅ День тому

    2014 and 2015 was another golden time for both Federer and djokovic😢

  • @romainmj7245
    @romainmj7245 День тому +2

    Just to be clear…Prime means different things to different people, but to me it is basically the period of time where they are athletically and technically at or near their peak !
    Obviously within this period there might have instances where it's clear there are dips due to injury but mostly these are big 4 « primes »
    Federer : 2004-2012
    Nadal: 2008-2014
    Djokovic : 2011-2016
    Murray: 2010-2017
    It doesn't mean that outside this gap of time they were bad or whatever not at all but more like those were the days where they were at the very top of their game !
    PS: Not to forget that people might use the term "peak" which to me is more like a year, or can be a tournament where one player is playing the very best he could possibly play...2006 Fed, 2011 nole, 2010 rafa for exemple

    • @RazOls
      @RazOls  День тому +1

      Good points

    • @masters.1000
      @masters.1000 День тому +3

      Federer's 2010 & 2011 aren't anywhere near his prime.
      Prime constitutes a continuous period of time where the level of play and physicality is at the top, while improving or staying there.
      Peak level means the absolute best and could be reached at any time, lasting for just a match or more.

    • @thesoccergod
      @thesoccergod День тому +1

      A reasonable observation, but usual, Fed is the exception - with his peak.
      Fed's peak (= tennis's apotheosis): Master Cup (WTF) 2003 to Masters Cup (WTF) 2007 (320-24 overall)
      Prime: AO 2004 to AO 2010
      Extended prime: Marseille 2003 to AO 2013

    • @romainmj7245
      @romainmj7245 День тому

      @@masters.1000 it’s not because Roger was « less successful that he wasn’t at his prime…he just faced at that time some peak level of Nadal and Djoko…he was physically so good and technically the same ! It is in 2013 that he got worse cause of back injury, movement and forehand got worse ( change of racquet and change of forehand technique )

    • @masters.1000
      @masters.1000 День тому

      @romainmj7245 He was losing to nobodies and was inconsistent as ever. For some time couldn't stop shanking the backhand.

  • @jamessandlin4406
    @jamessandlin4406 22 години тому +2

    i struggle to understand why roger had any trouble with djokovic but he did roger had all this ability and djokovic was a baseline shootout player(boring) i am just a tennis fan but it was puzzling

    • @kweizi5712
      @kweizi5712 21 годину тому +1

      It's partly luck at crucial points but also Novak just plays like a wall and is able to chase down Roger's shots.

    • @pierdomenicosommati443
      @pierdomenicosommati443 18 годин тому +1

      Ruger didn't have any "troubles" whatsoever vs Novak. Of course the Serbian was rock solid, but the Swiss's game was just ideal to put him in deep trouble.
      But he had an additional opponent in those matches from 2011 onwards: his own age, with a huge age gap of six years vs Djokovic.
      That's all, that's more the enough to explain his "troubles", but that wasn't enough to keep him from scoring a decent number of wins vs the Serbian anyway.
      From 2011 onwards, 30+ Roger actually won 33% of their matches, which becomes more than 40% win rate if you just count best-of-three matches.
      These are facts, and they don't tell about a 30+ champion who is having "troubles" vs a six years younger champion. They just tell us that those six years are obviously a very important factor, that's all.

  • @MI-ct9eh
    @MI-ct9eh Годину тому

    Best by a mile on faster courts even when he was older and slower. Shame there were so few of them at that point.

  • @andywu8558
    @andywu8558 День тому +3

    Don't forget 2012 cincinnati finals.😉

    • @RazOls
      @RazOls  День тому

      Unforgettable! Bagel

  • @federicotown8052
    @federicotown8052 День тому

    I prefer this rivalry than the Fedal one !

  • @romainmj7245
    @romainmj7245 День тому

    can you upload a very underestimate match that is federer vs djokovic dubai 2007 ?

    • @RazOls
      @RazOls  День тому +1

      If I can get hold of it in good quality, yes. I don't want to upload in trash quality like some others

    • @romainmj7245
      @romainmj7245 День тому

      @@RazOls that’s why you are one of best in the business

    • @dewman7477
      @dewman7477 День тому

      I don’t think they played at Dubai in 2007

  • @neoroman0510
    @neoroman0510 12 годин тому

    But counting fairly (from 2013 and on, Federer is somewhat plagued by injuries, while Djokovic is in his prime),
    we should count only matches before 2013, changing the score to:
    Djokovic: 12
    Federer: 17
    Excluding maybe the two first years where Djokovic was perhaps not at his prime yet, and start counting at 2008, when Djokovic wins his first grand slam final over Federer, the head to head statistic becomes more even, but favouring The Greatest Of All Time, Federer:
    Head to Head fairly counted, 2008-2012
    Djokovic: 11
    Federer: 12

  • @puppetdancing
    @puppetdancing 14 годин тому

    费德勒的打法真的符合道家用力的理念,以柔克刚,刚柔并济。

  • @ryanjones7712
    @ryanjones7712 23 години тому +4

    Fed fans make their own happiness. Bragging about him winning in Mickey Mouse tournament while simultaneously getting owned in every important moment by Nole is peak Fed fan logic. This is almost as shameless about bragging that Federer was a solid 1-4 against Novak in 2011 at the “old” age 29. Nole let him this one cuz he felt bad, just like he did in 2019 ATP finals.

    • @kweizi5712
      @kweizi5712 20 годин тому

      Your comments, and others like you, are one of the reasons why Djokovic isn't as popular. It's very disrespectful and shows your lack of understanding of how Djokovic became the great player he is. That's right, Djokovic's success has a lot to do with Federer's records. Everytime he won, he believed more that he belongs at least at the same level if not higher. He said it himself that his 2 biggest rivals helped make him who he is.
      As for Federer playing in smaller tournaments, he is partly lured to play those tournaments by the organisers because of his popularity. In turn, he gained more fans as he was more accessible. Not everyone can travel to those big tournaments to watch their favourite player in action.

    • @pierdomenicosommati443
      @pierdomenicosommati443 18 годин тому

      ​@@kweizi5712lol those "Mickey Mouse tournaments" were ATP 500 and just a very small handful of ATP 250.
      That is the "style" of those very stupid and very disrespectful Djokovic hoolifans, who also have the stupidity to pretend that being 30 y/o vs a 24/25 y/o is not a disadvantage. What do they think that would've happened if 30 y/o Djokovic had to face the 24 y/o himself?
      Moreover, obviously we have to "remind" these mindless hoolifans that 30/31 Federer was still sharp enough to kick the very very prime Novak out of Roland Garros 2011 and Wimbledon 2012. They use to have an extremely selective memory.

    • @initialize21
      @initialize21 11 годин тому

      You mad Federer is the GOAT? Yeah you mad

    • @wimgroart1870
      @wimgroart1870 9 годин тому +1

      @@initialize21 still the goat of most wins at two Grand Slams: Wimbledon and US Open. And Djokovic is the goat of most losses at US Open.

    • @initialize21
      @initialize21 5 годин тому

      @@wimgroart1870haha exactly

  • @Mohammad-xi1oh
    @Mohammad-xi1oh День тому

    🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐

  • @ab93123
    @ab93123 День тому

    Man, Rog was so clutch in the 2015 match. Oof!

    • @RazOls
      @RazOls  День тому

      Even the yelling fan in the crowd didn’t stop him 😜

  • @henry-bo3np
    @henry-bo3np 2 години тому

    Prime Roger had the better of Novak. Novak ran up numbers after Roger was 33+ y/o.

  • @saracurasana714
    @saracurasana714 День тому

    The thing with the big 3 is like they aren't far away in being better it's very close, sure Djokovic is the goat blah blah, but isn't like he's that much better than Federer or Nadal.

    • @pierdomenicosommati443
      @pierdomenicosommati443 18 годин тому +2

      They're actually three players from the exact same league, despite playing very differently from each other. It's a league on their own. That's why the GOAT argument is very stupid and very overrated. The amount of victories is a fact, but it depends on a huge number of circumstances too (especially on such a huge timespan of 15 years)... the level they showed in that huge timespan is what actually counts. They essentially kept being a constant challenge for each other for all that insane timespan. We've not to forget that 2005 Nadal was already very close to his prime level, and that 2019 Federer at 38 was able to send 32 y/o Djokovic out of the Finals, and to raise himself at double championship point at Wimbledon vs the 6 years younger Serbian (which is actually much more extraordinary than having lost that match).

    • @wimgroart1870
      @wimgroart1870 9 годин тому

      @@pierdomenicosommati443 And looking at the stats it is more extraordinary what Federer did at Wimbledon 2019. Not always the best wins the match.

  • @RealisticAndTrue
    @RealisticAndTrue День тому +3

    There is a better match if you are looking where Federer folded djokovic...and it was also prime djokovic. 2012 Cinncinatti final, Federer folded djokovic 6:0

  • @Jeanpaisa89
    @Jeanpaisa89 День тому +1

    The level of tennis is very high among these, the kings of the hard courts, goats

  • @sugboskyaviation
    @sugboskyaviation День тому

    At an ATP 500

    • @MrTonyMartino
      @MrTonyMartino День тому +2

      He did the same on two M1000

    • @PrempitiTantipool
      @PrempitiTantipool День тому

      ​​@@MrTonyMartinoAnd Djokovic owns him in grandslam 😂

    • @Mark-ut5oq
      @Mark-ut5oq 23 години тому

      @@MrTonyMartino not in 2015.

    • @MrTonyMartino
      @MrTonyMartino 23 години тому

      @@PrempitiTantipool He started to dominate in 2014, once Federer was 32.

    • @MrTonyMartino
      @MrTonyMartino 23 години тому

      @@Mark-ut5oq Cincinnati 2012 and 2015, Shanghai 2010 and 2014.

  • @itiswhatitis8875
    @itiswhatitis8875 День тому +3

    Federer OWNED prime Djokovic here? 🤣 Talk about delusional and biased, Raz Ols takes the cake

    • @annewalden3795
      @annewalden3795 День тому +1

      Tiswhat you you should not be so arrogant as all opinions are valid.

    • @Jake-f6j
      @Jake-f6j День тому +2

      He certainly did in sets 2 and 3 as well as the entire 2015 match

    • @PrempitiTantipool
      @PrempitiTantipool День тому

      Ofc he owns Djokovic is the tournament where Djokovic doesn't even care to lift the trophy . When it matters Djokovic kicked his ass😂

    • @Jake-f6j
      @Jake-f6j 23 години тому

      @ yeah he can beat old declined Federer but we all know prime Federer would win those matches

    • @annewalden3795
      @annewalden3795 20 годин тому +1

      @PrempitiTantipool You certainly know how to annoy people .Roger Federer was a far more entertaining tennis player than Novak and a far nicer person.

  • @initialize21
    @initialize21 11 годин тому

    Poor Fakesurgeryovic. These courts are just too fast for him

  • @MSFS-l6h
    @MSFS-l6h 16 годин тому

    He isn’t that consistent in 2014

  • @benjitall1536
    @benjitall1536 День тому

    Federer was a fun player to watch. Djokovic is just the better all-around player though.

    • @initialize21
      @initialize21 11 годин тому +1

      Nope. Literally all of Federer's strokes are better except the backhand

  • @ethan76708
    @ethan76708 День тому

    You Federer fans have been playing the age card since 2010 when he was only 28 djokovic and Nadal are just better players sorry

    • @kweizi5712
      @kweizi5712 23 години тому +2

      Historically 6 years is about a tennis generation. The age when Federer started his prime is roughly the same as Djokovic's. Djokovic also had a psychological advantage because he could play with less pressure and nothing to lose during his prime years because he was still chasing his big rivals from a long way back. They have had many close matches going Djokovic way. How would you feel if hypothetically their ages were swapped and Federer was younger by 6 years, and those close matches went Federer's way?

    • @pierdomenicosommati443
      @pierdomenicosommati443 18 годин тому +2

      You Djoko hoolifans have to play the "age doesn't count" card simultaneously with the "Novak prior to 2011 was a baby" card, in order to diminish Roger results, and to avoid looking at the blatant fact that even a very old Federer was a constant huge threat for him.

    • @ethan76708
      @ethan76708 17 годин тому

      @@kweizi5712 your making excuses for Federer choking in so many big moments that 2019 Wimbledon final really changed how I viewed Federer he couldn’t perform at his best in high leverage moments he was a choker let’s be real

    • @ethan76708
      @ethan76708 17 годин тому

      @@pierdomenicosommati443 when Federer was 29 Djokovic that the single greatest season any tennis player has ever had and never looked back Federer dominated a weak era some of the guys he beat during his run was disgusting the level of competition

    • @wimgroart1870
      @wimgroart1870 8 годин тому +1

      @@ethan76708 a choker is when you lost many times at big moments: for instance six US Open finals (a goat record in the open era)

  • @meronsohanse
    @meronsohanse 11 годин тому

    Roger does well in best of 3 even after 2014/15...The real problems were in Grand Slams...He plays well till the end of the 3rd set...His real chance of beating Djokovic was in 4 sets otherwise it's over...

  • @thesoccergod
    @thesoccergod День тому +3

    Yes! Faster courts would be great...though I don't care so much now that Fed's done. 🥲
    Otherwise - thanks for great highlights, Raz! I especially liked the idea of stitching the two finals together. 😀👍🏽

    • @RazOls
      @RazOls  День тому

      Thanks man, happy you liked it! And yes faster courts would have been nicer...

    • @Mark-ut5oq
      @Mark-ut5oq День тому

      You mean like, the faster courts of the 2010s where Federer failed against Djokovic time and time again? There’s actual numbers on this and it’s the opposite of your argument