How One Club Became Two Enemies | MK Dons & AFC Wimbledon

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  • This is the story of how in 2002, Wimbledon FC spilt to become two clubs: MK Dons & AFC Wimbledon.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 1,7 тис.

  • @AntonyAng34
    @AntonyAng34 7 років тому +1201

    a great respect for AFC Wimbledon fans.

    • @Callum290600
      @Callum290600 7 років тому

      Antony Ang j

    • @tmbrown2409
      @tmbrown2409 6 років тому +9

      Who let there club die and started a new one yer respect that haha what a melt.

    • @brendonutjita
      @brendonutjita 6 років тому +39

      tom mate your not ard you have a playlist named tom

    • @metallion9712
      @metallion9712 6 років тому

      Brendon Peck//ITFC you’re my good at grammar

    • @kirbylp980
      @kirbylp980 6 років тому +4

      @@tmbrown2409 you fucker

  • @bwanalog8849
    @bwanalog8849 7 років тому +114

    Being a Wimbledon fan, I absolutely love this comments section

  • @DavidVujanic
    @DavidVujanic 7 років тому +679

    Love seeing Eli on my screen again

  • @joywinho
    @joywinho 7 років тому +869

    Ok now I understand why people hate MK Dons. Thank you Copa! :)

    • @BigChris1998
      @BigChris1998 7 років тому +21

      so you must hate them too because jumping on a bandwagon is cool and thinking for yourself isnt

    • @joywinho
      @joywinho 7 років тому +32

      BigChris1998 what?

    • @pphyjynx8217
      @pphyjynx8217 7 років тому +104

      there is a difference in understanding something and agreeing with it...Leshon never said he hated Mk dons, he just understands why people hate them.

    • @joywinho
      @joywinho 7 років тому +17

      PP Hyjynx exactly!

    • @chasesweeneyy
      @chasesweeneyy 7 років тому +1

      Leshon JL lol but meanwhile I didn't know about why people hated MK Dons either because I watch Spanish football

  • @synthesizerpatel7405
    @synthesizerpatel7405 7 років тому +2214

    Yes, get rid of the 'Dons' from MK Dons, (especially now the real Dons are back in the League), and think of a name that actually has something to do with Milton Keynes the city. MK Roundabouts, perhaps?

    • @swerve1721
      @swerve1721 7 років тому +94

      Synthesizer Patel MK straight roads or MK duel carriageways 😂

    • @welisnabs6117
      @welisnabs6117 7 років тому +4

      Synthesizer Patel 😂😂😂

    • @SteamedHams3
      @SteamedHams3 7 років тому +4

      Synthesizer Patel

    • @OfficialFlaxxyy
      @OfficialFlaxxyy 7 років тому +63

      MK holy fuck what a grey shithole it is

    • @francislancedavid629
      @francislancedavid629 7 років тому +33

      Synthesizer Patel Milton Keynes FC or MKFC Would be a good name

  • @johnaarson
    @johnaarson 7 років тому +897

    I didn't know MK Dons had given the rights and trophies "back" to Wimbledon. That was huge and honestly it does soften the harm they've done to the "true" Dons. In the end fair play prevailed. :)

    • @Redheisenberg
      @Redheisenberg 7 років тому +55

      They should change their name

    • @johnaarson
      @johnaarson 7 років тому +44

      I'm also with them in that aspect: if the fans agree to a name change, yes. But if not, it should stay like it is. The fact that they are named "Dons" doesn't affect negatively the true Dons anyway. If they like it, they can stick with it.

    • @HTCGaming1000
      @HTCGaming1000 7 років тому +10

      John Aarson No. No fucking way mate

    • @johnaarson
      @johnaarson 7 років тому +5

      How come?

    • @HTCGaming1000
      @HTCGaming1000 7 років тому +19

      John Aarson Just giving their trophies back doesn't make up for it all. What about their club, their identity? They don't have that

  • @lbizzle3234
    @lbizzle3234 7 років тому +650

    "Franchise football is disastrous" Hear that America?

    • @DevilsChild222
      @DevilsChild222 7 років тому +7

      L Bizzle you tell em bro

    • @pphyjynx8217
      @pphyjynx8217 7 років тому +98

      everything in america is a franchise...even Schools

    • @aaronquevedo9099
      @aaronquevedo9099 7 років тому +17

      PP Hyjynx Not really

    • @jerry85g7
      @jerry85g7 6 років тому +27

      @@pphyjynx8217 Even prison

    • @dutchdettweiler
      @dutchdettweiler 6 років тому +36

      were still high as giraffe pussy in the honeymoon phase. but eventually people will realize no one owns their team. every team is owned by the league. I'm a Toronto FC fan and the league just banned for life our number one supporters group Inebriatti over the actions of 2 or 3 fans. this would never happen in europe and its happening everywhere in MLS. they want a family friendly experience. They show the chants and flares when theyre selling it but they dont want it in the stadium once they have a succesful franchise

  • @n.c.37
    @n.c.37 7 років тому +65

    Even in France, story of MK Dons and AFC Wimbledon is famous! Thanks guys!

    • @RockSmithStudio
      @RockSmithStudio Рік тому +2

      Ya, thanks to John and Hank Green, many from the States/Canada also know both very well

  • @E_99LDN
    @E_99LDN 7 років тому +608

    MK DONS is everything a football club shouldn't be

    • @moho7779
      @moho7779 6 років тому +23

      What bringing through young talent like dele alli making jobs in the area bringing the locals a team to support

    • @vibesonv4981
      @vibesonv4981 5 років тому +3

      Sorry didn’t realise a disagreement is what football shouldn’t be

    • @redflag8970
      @redflag8970 5 років тому +10

      mk dons is what became of wimbledon when locals in merton didnt want the club. they have done nothing wrong.

    • @melojordans23
      @melojordans23 5 років тому +2

      Nah it’s Manchester United/Manchester City.

    • @raymondbonington9355
      @raymondbonington9355 4 роки тому +2

      red flag most football fans from Merton support Chelsea Fulham or palace .

  • @YoungMulaBaby808
    @YoungMulaBaby808 7 років тому +518

    You can hate the Dons as much as you like but the fact they beat United 4-0 is bloody hilarious

    • @AS-rf6rw
      @AS-rf6rw 4 роки тому +2

      true

    • @aidantownsend941
      @aidantownsend941 4 роки тому +42

      They are not the dons

    • @aidantownsend941
      @aidantownsend941 4 роки тому +19

      They should be called mk franchise instead

    • @seadogs3149
      @seadogs3149 4 роки тому +6

      MK have one of the best stadiums in the football league

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking 4 роки тому +4

      SEA DOGS It may be. But the people who did that to Wimbledon supporters should be machine gunned into a ditch.

  • @Dan-gv2zy
    @Dan-gv2zy 7 років тому +320

    I'm from Milton Keynes, I'm ashamed of this club.

  • @sheeno3882
    @sheeno3882 7 років тому +230

    this is actually really interesting.

  • @shenko_
    @shenko_ 7 років тому +918

    MK dons, Millwall and RB Leipzig are the most hated clubs in the world.

    • @brigate-rossonere757
      @brigate-rossonere757 7 років тому +111

      you forget Juventus and Barcelona

    • @ultrasmilantv7519
      @ultrasmilantv7519 7 років тому +39

      More Chelsea, United and Tottenham respect at Arsenal. For me more hated : 1. Chelsea 2. Tottenham 3. City 4. United 5. Millwall 6. Arsenal. i respect West Ham, Newcastle, Everton and a little for Liverpool.

    • @ElectroMonkeyz
      @ElectroMonkeyz 7 років тому +11

      No.

    • @louismcmillan3449
      @louismcmillan3449 7 років тому +81

      Ultras Milan your top 5 hated teams are English even though your a Milan "ultra"

    • @ultrasmilantv7519
      @ultrasmilantv7519 7 років тому +28

      +Chelsea home and away Chelsea no football fans base no history no tradition, only big money.

  • @mich8050
    @mich8050 4 роки тому +28

    Johan Cruyff was part of the group that tried to move Wimbledon to Dublin and wrote in his autobiography 'My Turn' that he couldn't understand the problem with moving a club from London to Ireland and having an Irish team playing in the English League system. Luckily those with a brain filled with common sense prevailed on that one.
    No disputing that Cruyff was a great footballer, he's one of the greatest of all time, but when it came to understanding the feelings of others and general common sense he was the furthest from great that it is possible to be.

    • @DaveWraptastic
      @DaveWraptastic 2 роки тому

      I'm Dutch but if that is true, Cruyff was a fucking idiot.

    • @kemchy3838
      @kemchy3838 Рік тому +2

      Imagine the away days. A nice weekend trip to Dublin soumds great

  • @HalfdanMCMX
    @HalfdanMCMX 7 років тому +166

    Long live AFC Wimbledon! We stand behind you at Malmö FF.

    • @theaveragegamer8190
      @theaveragegamer8190 7 років тому +6

      Qonstantin Braeburn thanks mate love our club went to Wimbledon mk we were unfortunate to lose but the atmosphere was great the play off final last year 2-0 vs Plymouth best day of my life

    • @Nile15rush_fj
      @Nile15rush_fj 7 років тому +1

      Finley Root you little gobshite

    • @HalfdanMCMX
      @HalfdanMCMX 7 років тому +6

      The average Gamer Cheers, mate. Such a shame that you lost, but you'll crush them at home. Hopefully I'll get to attend an AFC game if I visit London in the future. Hope you're playing higher up in the system then!
      I just wish your kits were a bit better looking, the only thing preventing me from getting one! I preferred the old FC ones from the 90's!
      Best of luck!

    • @benwheeler8456
      @benwheeler8456 5 років тому

      @finnerzz channel at least there not fake

    • @benwheeler8456
      @benwheeler8456 5 років тому

      @finnerzz channel at least he's not giving away his identity finley root

  • @ThePizza911
    @ThePizza911 7 років тому +35

    "And given a Football League side to the local community of Buckinghamshire." I think Wycombe Wanderers might have something to say about that.

    • @djlarbz
      @djlarbz 6 років тому +8

      do you know how much of an ass it is to get from mk to wycombe

  • @JulianGreenbank
    @JulianGreenbank 4 роки тому +59

    My Dad always said there are at least 2 things every English football fan can agree on:
    Don't buy the Sun
    What happened to Wimbledon was atrocious
    I agree, I think MK should drop the Dons. Come up with a name that makes them stand out more

    • @markharrison6927
      @markharrison6927 3 роки тому +8

      Mk plastics

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi 3 роки тому +2

      @@markharrison6927 Honestly, it wouldn't matter. They've officially renounced their claim to the history and identity of the original Wimbledon club, which is a step in the right direction, but they _have_ to change their name for that to be taken seriously.

    • @vijaysiv
      @vijaysiv 2 роки тому +2

      Honestly Milton Keynes football club doesn't sound bad

    • @aphyTTR
      @aphyTTR 2 роки тому +1

      M.K. F.C.

    • @aidanwotherspoon905
      @aidanwotherspoon905 5 місяців тому

      With their pathetic home crowds in their 30k seat stadium, they should just renounce any league status they stole from Wimbledon and start at the bottom of the pyramid like literally every other club

  • @syxs621
    @syxs621 4 роки тому +6

    WIMBLEDON...... My heart goes out to them supporters it was a crime against football, so much respect for the lads that fought for there club, I grew up as a massive Wimbledon rival but, I couldn’t imagine that pain of losing your club, so respect for them original supporters now....

  • @shanekelley7682
    @shanekelley7682 7 років тому +13

    Wimbledon AFC, As a football fan, I'm glad you came back! I hope Premier League football returns for you and your brilliant, loyal fans.

    • @sheffsteel7
      @sheffsteel7 Рік тому

      No sure how old you are but they were terrible for the Premier League, average home crowds of 7K with some down to 3K and away crowds of 150. Also very physical long ball football, at the time most British football fans wanted them to be relegated and replaced by a team with more deserving fans.

    • @elliottspokemon2654
      @elliottspokemon2654 6 місяців тому

      @@sheffsteel7at the time many just thought they were bad no one wanted a fake place that hound not even exist to mug a football club

  • @kumatoni5245
    @kumatoni5245 7 років тому +158

    Won the FA Cup on penalties, you say? Pretty sure it was a 1-0 win.

    • @townfanjohn
      @townfanjohn 6 років тому +1

      Sanchez free kick I always thought

    • @townfanjohn
      @townfanjohn 6 років тому +1

      My mistake Sanchez header from corner

    • @sanjdetox71
      @sanjdetox71 6 років тому +1

      yeah

    • @magicbeatle48
      @magicbeatle48 6 років тому +14

      No, Sanchez header from a Dennis Wise Free Kick.

    • @NmpK24
      @NmpK24 6 років тому +2

      Don't think they even settled the FA Cup final on penalties back then, was usually replays. The final 2 years after Wimbledon's win between Man Utd and Palace went to a replay.

  • @funnyonev4949
    @funnyonev4949 7 років тому +25

    Growing up in MK (from the age of 2) like alot of my generation I already had "my team" long before MK Dons and find it hard to associste with the club that play in my home town of the past 32 years.
    Like Wimbledon fans, I've been through the ups & downs with my boyhood club Coventry City. Still in very uncertain times and now in a home stadium we don't own with no guarantees on where we will play next season.
    I attend MK Dons games with my young son who is a FOOTBALL fan, he's not a fan of a club or a player or a brand - we go to watch the GAME - the sport. He has an unblinkered, unbiased, almost innocent view which sometimes I would love to have. Alot of clubs in history have had hard times, money talks and decisions made by people out of greed affects the people paying to watch most.
    I don't attend these games to fund the team (although ultimately my money goes there) but to enjoy something with my son we both love.
    I feel for the fans of Wimbledon and just want them to know that the club they loved and enjoyed watching will never be forgotten. I used to enjoy watching the crazy gang as a kid with my dad, staying up late to watch match of they day - some of my best times as he worked so much.
    MK Dons & AFC Wimbledon are for the next generation, rivalries in sport are what make it exciting.

    • @kemchy3838
      @kemchy3838 Рік тому +2

      Why did you support conventry growing up in Milton Keynes

    • @user-yf4gx9lw6c
      @user-yf4gx9lw6c Рік тому

      This is a very interesting comment. I’m a cov fan as well So I’m wandering what made you pick the sky blues?

  • @MrRodzilla
    @MrRodzilla 5 років тому +15

    I refused an offer to manage MK Dons in football manager even though I was desperate for a job

    • @kimjongun1413
      @kimjongun1413 5 років тому +2

      Hope you ended up on the bottle and managing Kettering Town

    • @homerj.simpson7562
      @homerj.simpson7562 3 роки тому +3

      @@kimjongun1413 Still better than MK

    • @trainsimrides9662
      @trainsimrides9662 3 роки тому +1

      @@homerj.simpson7562 true wombles are the way to go

  • @brotherbruti
    @brotherbruti 7 років тому +18

    I'm a Montreal Impact and Arsenal supporter and have been for years (IMFC: 10, ARS: 5). I discovered this story about a year or two ago when John Green talked about it and sponsored the club. I just loved how the fans decided that they were going to build back their legacy that was wrongfully stolen from them. The rise of AFC since 2002 has been absolutely crazy. I'm 20, so I'm still young and I have time, but I really wish I see AFC Wimbledon become a Premier League club before I die. Only two promotions to go!

    • @cipriandanorasanu9414
      @cipriandanorasanu9414 Рік тому

      Fuck off yanc. THE WOMBLES HAD NO MONEY THEY MOVED TO MILTON KEYNES! Up the franchise !! ⚪️😘

  • @thetacticalgenius2045
    @thetacticalgenius2045 7 років тому +179

    'To bring a football club to the Buckinghamshire community'
    Erm, we already had one. Wycombe Wanderers, bucks number one.

    • @h3nder
      @h3nder 7 років тому +1

      TheTacticalGenius Why didn't he move them to the new stadium?

    • @professorpinmanfr
      @professorpinmanfr 7 років тому

      TheTacticalGenius

    • @oufcfan5100
      @oufcfan5100 7 років тому +2

      poor people of Buckinghamshire then

    • @readingfc83
      @readingfc83 5 років тому

      Wycombe are shite tho

    • @LazarouDave
      @LazarouDave 5 років тому +1

      Wycombe ain't the only place in Buckinghamshire though pal, every city deserves a club, no matter how it came about

  • @BA-uo1pq
    @BA-uo1pq 7 років тому +295

    If you are above about 15 and you support MK Dons you are all that is wrong about football

    • @TheBloodsuger150
      @TheBloodsuger150 7 років тому +71

      Ben A can't really blame people for living in MK...

    • @felixsears5204
      @felixsears5204 7 років тому

      Ben A I support Colchester

    • @BA-uo1pq
      @BA-uo1pq 7 років тому +26

      I don't mind the young fans of MK - it's all they've ever known - but those who turn up in their late 20's who supported Man United till they were 12 or whatever make the club what it is.

    • @maxburlace7157
      @maxburlace7157 7 років тому +4

      Ben A I'm 13 in MK. I knew half of the story but not the full story. Jeeez

    • @MrBestofGaming
      @MrBestofGaming 7 років тому +5

      Ben A what about the people who live there...

  • @MsVixxen
    @MsVixxen 7 років тому +118

    If they dropped the "Dons" suffix from their name then fans of every other club might not hate MK so much

    • @whoareyawhoareya8820
      @whoareyawhoareya8820 5 років тому +3

      Would still hate em

    • @mikehunt7810
      @mikehunt7810 5 років тому +10

      They could go out of the football league and I'd still hate them. They should be relegated to the bottom tier and have to earn their place. Then they wouldn't be hated as much

    • @moho7779
      @moho7779 5 років тому +2

      Wimbledon fans requested that dons stsyed in the name to keep the connection to wimbeldon

    • @AldershotDave
      @AldershotDave 5 років тому +7

      They should be called Milton Keynes Town.

    • @Cespar997
      @Cespar997 5 років тому +2

      @@moho7779 u wot we asked them to remove it and we hate that they still think they're dons. WimbleDON it's blatant identity theft and you all know it

  • @deekae6801
    @deekae6801 2 роки тому +22

    Honestly one of the saddest backstories of two football clubs ever.

  • @michael5746
    @michael5746 7 років тому +151

    Dons are going up! And the franchise going down franchise going down!

    • @havershamjoe6782
      @havershamjoe6782 6 років тому +7

      Michael sure about that?

    • @Mrk-xe2gk
      @Mrk-xe2gk 6 років тому +2

      And now we're going down😭😭

    • @musadiqirfan1494
      @musadiqirfan1494 6 років тому

      Michael

    • @Morganecfc
      @Morganecfc 6 років тому

      Michael going down!! 6 well smack you on Saturday Utc

    • @yungboomer6467
      @yungboomer6467 5 років тому

      John 87 last place in league one, welcome to league go while we get promoted.

  • @AuthenticDarren
    @AuthenticDarren 4 роки тому +11

    Wimbledon won the FA cup 1-0 in normal time I believe. Although Wimbledon goalkeeper Dave Beasant did save a penalty as well as making a ton of other outstanding saves against a huge Liverpool side and was made man of the match if I remember rightly.

  • @ZeyaRudaRozena97
    @ZeyaRudaRozena97 7 років тому +49

    only 2 teams should be called "the dons".
    AFC WIMBLEDON AND ABERDEEN

  • @valantisandriakopoylos5864
    @valantisandriakopoylos5864 3 роки тому +3

    And tomorrow they return to Plough Lane. What a journey for the dons. Best r yet to come

  • @sambrown2126
    @sambrown2126 7 років тому +32

    A team for the local Buckinghamshire community? Wycombe Wanderers are in Buckinghamshire and are doing it right. Owned by the fans, for the fans.

  • @karlraynes1986
    @karlraynes1986 5 років тому +6

    There are many, many teams with the name 'United', Sheffield United started off as a cricket team in the late 1800's and eventually decided to bring in a football team to replace "The Wednesday', who had relocated to the northern part of Sheffield.
    There are so many teams that have followed suit and what's frustrating about that is that when you hear the name 'United' you automatically think of Manchester United. We Blades fans have learned to live with that but many still give a polite reminder that the ORIGINAL United is Sheffield United.
    As for MK & Wimbledon - after several generations have passed, maybe it'll just become the norm and everyone will be used to the idea. For now though, it's still fresh in the minds of the Wimbledon fans and I understand their frustration after everything they've been through.

  • @TheWonderzShow
    @TheWonderzShow 7 років тому +32

    Do one about Coventry and their bad owners

    • @harryjames7169
      @harryjames7169 7 років тому +5

      UsualTalksTV agreed I'm from Coventry

  • @dusanrotar
    @dusanrotar 7 років тому +22

    Respekt to Wimbledon and for the Fans Form a Chelsea fan

  • @alexanderhamilton8971
    @alexanderhamilton8971 7 років тому +193

    Wycombe Wanderers are the 'Old Bucks Boys' existing for over 110 years before Wimbledon moved to Milton Keynes. The Buckinghamshire community all got together to support their small local club, but now MK Dons have ruined that vibe.
    Like if you hate MK Dons!

    • @BigChris1998
      @BigChris1998 7 років тому +8

      Aww shucks you are looking for likes - that's cute -x-

    • @alexanderhamilton8971
      @alexanderhamilton8971 7 років тому +2

      BigChris1998 Probably a franchise fan...

    • @BigChris1998
      @BigChris1998 7 років тому +2

      Customer

    • @havershamjoe6782
      @havershamjoe6782 6 років тому +1

      Alexander Hamilton He isn’t saying what really happened. Wimbledon were in huge trouble, they were bankrupt and were either going to dissolve and disappear or move. So instead of dying out and going completely, the owners (who by the way you should’ve supported or blamed this all on) decided to agree to move. And instead of supporting your club and being loyal, all of your fans made there own team which is why mk was made and they changed their name

    • @conanxsander9107
      @conanxsander9107 6 років тому

      Coventry City is more closer to Milton Keynes then Wycombe .

  • @jamesv1995
    @jamesv1995 7 років тому +4

    Missed mini documentaries like these. Keep these going!

  • @Alex-db6qu
    @Alex-db6qu 6 років тому +7

    MK Dons possibly about to be a league below AFC Wimbledon now too

    • @MrRodzilla
      @MrRodzilla 5 років тому

      don't worry, we will buy another premier league team soon and merge it, the MK HAM DONS

  • @harveysmith100
    @harveysmith100 7 років тому +2

    It was great what the Wimbledon fans did. I have followed them ever since.
    I hope the Welly boys still do.

  • @Prolix8
    @Prolix8 7 років тому +5

    Good documentary, I'm happy that you stated the drop in attendance in the 90s which was - eventually - the downfall of Wimbledon FC and the opposite with AFC which can now look forward to move back to Merton (the only thing you forgot to mention in your piece).

  • @tanay3627
    @tanay3627 2 роки тому +2

    Respect to AFC Wimbledon supporters👏

  • @Kmn2
    @Kmn2 5 років тому +5

    Massive respect for Wimbledon from a Pompey fan I heard about your story and what happened to your club it's amazing truly some Loyal fans whoever supports mk dons you're just a traitor tbh it's sick

    • @JBG-AjaxzeMedia
      @JBG-AjaxzeMedia 2 роки тому

      bruh idc for all this shit i support them because i'm from MK, i was born after all this shite happened, how can i be a traitor when i wasn't even involved in any of it, i was just born into it lol. Wimbledon fans imo are all just butthurt like get over it, we're all doing okay now aren't we? fuck sake its like children arguing over a toy get over it they are just football teams just shut up and enjoy the beautiful game

    • @tedpates4071
      @tedpates4071 Рік тому

      As a mk fan we all hate Pete winklemen and I think that it's all in the past now

  • @n0thing12
    @n0thing12 7 років тому +3

    These are the documentaries that I've missed from Copa.

  • @Viator19
    @Viator19 7 років тому +31

    Im a Leyton Orient supporter and if our Italian owner obliterates us out of existence i'll make AFC Wimbledon my new team. Good on 'em

    • @AdrianCourage
      @AdrianCourage 7 років тому +2

      MrLazyhead I hope it never happens, mate. Callum Kennedy, Dons legend.

    • @Daneclaw
      @Daneclaw 5 років тому

      Congratulations on getting back into the Football League after ditching the Italian.

  • @jonnyscottblair
    @jonnyscottblair 4 роки тому +2

    Mostly correct but a few things:
    1. Wimbledon beat Liverpool 1-0 in the 1988 FA Cup Final. It was not on penalties.
    2. The 3,039 that turned up for the Everton game was in 1993 - long before Wimbledon FC ended so this low attendance was not a marker or sign of the times. A few years later, Wimbledon were FA Cup semi finalists again.

  • @oscarm5860
    @oscarm5860 7 років тому +5

    I like this guy. Sounds like a nice guy.

    • @louist9479
      @louist9479 3 роки тому

      Shame he lies through his arse

  • @ranjanbiswas3233
    @ranjanbiswas3233 5 років тому +2

    I'll always love and respect all fan powered clubs.

  • @robworthington2673
    @robworthington2673 7 років тому +4

    One of the best videos of watched on UA-cam. Keep it up

  • @fartexpertable
    @fartexpertable 7 років тому

    Struggle defines a football fan, you can pick whichever club you support but if you don't support them during their struggles then you were never a fan in the first place. Wimbledon fans are a fine example of that. "Risen from the ashes to defy all odds, in such a manner that will surprise all gods." May God always bless Wimbledon in all of its endeavors.
    *Pint raise from an Everton supporter*

  • @mattershack5206
    @mattershack5206 7 років тому +42

    It's incredible that Wimbledon are already in a higher position than MK dons

  • @mikejtrott
    @mikejtrott 5 років тому +2

    MK Dons were not the first club to permanently relocate. I think you you'll find that 'Woolwich Wanderers' did so over 100 years ago. A club now more commonly known as Arsenal will always be Woolwich to Spurs fan who were in North London first. COYS

    • @ekvedrek
      @ekvedrek 4 роки тому +1

      And never in first. Sad.

    • @davidjones3433
      @davidjones3433 2 роки тому +1

      spurs were in middlesex when arsenal moved

  • @TheT0ttenham
    @TheT0ttenham 7 років тому +56

    It wasn't the first time in the history of English league football. Arsenal moved from woolwich (South London) to Highbury (North london)

    • @benoitassouekotto_7387
      @benoitassouekotto_7387 7 років тому +26

      TheT0ttenham same city tho

    • @benoitassouekotto_7387
      @benoitassouekotto_7387 7 років тому +5

      Skiddy Skiddz wtf has that got to do with Arsenal moving

    • @elimengem3891
      @elimengem3891 7 років тому +18

      Arsenal moved north in 1913 but weren't a football league side until 1919!

    • @benoitassouekotto_7387
      @benoitassouekotto_7387 7 років тому

      Skiddy Skiddz that's not what you said, you said Tottenham were shit and didn't mention Arsenal in your original comment

    • @tottenham123mh
      @tottenham123mh 7 років тому +1

      Eli Mengem what about when they bought out spurs division one league place????

  • @almestarsari3868
    @almestarsari3868 7 років тому +9

    wow so much respect
    lower divs in English fooybal is just like old people full of emotions and stories

    • @pphyjynx8217
      @pphyjynx8217 7 років тому +4

      pretty much every football league is like that

    • @godenzoon5955
      @godenzoon5955 3 роки тому +2

      That is 'real' football, what football is all about. I hope to travel one day to the U.K. and visit a Lower League side.

  • @abhinavrock94
    @abhinavrock94 7 років тому +5

    We need more videos like this. Keep up the good work. (y)

  • @gregorylast6524
    @gregorylast6524 6 років тому

    Wimbledon FC (the only Dons) won the FA Cup on penalties. True quality journalism here.

  • @philipryan3195
    @philipryan3195 7 років тому +14

    Sutton UNITED FAN HERE I SAY AFC WIMBLEDON REAL WOMBLES

  • @fpsreactions8481
    @fpsreactions8481 7 років тому +1

    Wow... My PE teacher use to be Assistant coach of AK Dons. 2006-2011.

  • @danielstorey9443
    @danielstorey9443 7 років тому +10

    leeds fan here prefer afc Wimbledon than crap mk dons hats of to afc wiimbldon and its fans !

  • @toyosioyejobi309
    @toyosioyejobi309 7 років тому +2

    Im happy you could follow my advice by showing your face..good one

  • @Mike-jv9cl
    @Mike-jv9cl 6 років тому +35

    AFC Wimbledon are staying in League 1, MK Donuts are sinking to League 2. Hope Wimbledon make the Premier League and Donuts keep sinking.

    • @louist9479
      @louist9479 5 років тому +5

      Mike1 This aged well 🤫

    • @harryfoley2294
      @harryfoley2294 4 роки тому +6

      Louis T triggered MK dons fan 🤫

    • @ajf3202
      @ajf3202 3 роки тому +2

      @@louist9479 fuck off inbred

    • @louist9479
      @louist9479 3 роки тому +3

      @@ajf3202 imagine getting heated over a reply from over a year ago 😂 Go back to train watching

    • @ajf3202
      @ajf3202 3 роки тому +3

      @@louist9479 imagine supporting MK Dons. Your club shouldn't even exist. Inbred.

  • @djlarbz
    @djlarbz 6 років тому +2

    i am a mk dons fan and afc wimbledon fans are some of the most agressive fans i have ever seen

  • @Honourable66
    @Honourable66 4 роки тому +5

    MK Dons will never be acknowledged as a true club and it doesn't matter how their fans want to dress it up, it's just the way it is and will always be.

  • @matthewcoombs3282
    @matthewcoombs3282 7 років тому +1

    I remember going to Plough Lane with my dad in the late 1970s. I dont live in London anymore but I have visited AFC ground in Kingston. I really admire what the fans have done. Really hope to see them back soon in Plough Lane, a wrong will have finally been righted.

  • @IIIErebusIII
    @IIIErebusIII 7 років тому +64

    I was born in MK and there was no football team you could call your own Newport Pagnell isn't part of MK so there was none if you're really interested on why read about MK City (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Keynes_City_F.C..) on how they folded my granddad went to Mk City games and when they went bust no more could be done.
    I was 8 when i went to the first Wimbledon game at MK i didn't care about the move i was young at the time all i cared about was football at 10 year's old i got called scum inbred everything i din't know why i just wanted to watch football.

    • @IIIErebusIII
      @IIIErebusIII 7 років тому

      ***** A lot of people don't because of the Wimbledon name and who they were at the time.

    • @HTCGaming1000
      @HTCGaming1000 7 років тому

      The LoudAssasin And do you still support MK now?

    • @IIIErebusIII
      @IIIErebusIII 7 років тому +2

      notaprofessional Yep.

    • @tobyallen-smith922
      @tobyallen-smith922 7 років тому +1

      Thats the issue, you should know better to not support a club that should never had existed

    • @IIIErebusIII
      @IIIErebusIII 7 років тому +5

      notaprofessional That was financial and nothing to do with the move they barley pushed the club in Milton Keynes no advert's in the paper's nothing the old lot saw it as a joke and for 8 year's were called Mercedes Benz Fc until 98 then folded in 03.
      What i'm talking about is the 70's and 80's Mk City learn to fucking read let me give you the text straight from the wiki.
      Ron Noades, then chairman of Wimbledon, claimed to have entered talks with the Milton Keynes Development Corporation, although this was denied by the Corporation, about the possibility of moving the south London club to Milton Keynes.[4] Noades purchased a controlling interest in Milton Keynes City and installed fellow Wimbledon directors including Sam Hammam, Bernie Coleman and Jimmy Rose as directors on top of their identical roles at Wimbledon, which at that time was still legal under the Football Association's rules. His intention was to merge the two clubs to produce a club based in Milton Keynes using Wimbledon's place in the Football League. This idea was never seriously developed and was abandoned when he sold his interest in Milton Keynes City the following year.
      Like i said if they didn't buy the right's Mk city would of still been around thank's to him we had no financial backing which we did at the time before him.
      Honestly you really are special keep sucking the "victim's" dick's more twat.

  • @jordanbarclay2963
    @jordanbarclay2963 Рік тому +1

    So that all could of been avoided if Wimbledon got their stadium upto standards, great respect to AFC. Proper fans

  • @harryjones9482
    @harryjones9482 7 років тому +45

    I hope MK Dons get relegated to league 2

  • @milithant
    @milithant 7 років тому +2

    when eli was back with copa90 stories! Amazing

  • @kaiseredwardappah6630
    @kaiseredwardappah6630 5 років тому +3

    AFC Wimbledon forever MK Dons go home.

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi 4 роки тому

      They have a new home. Now they just need a new name.

  • @NmpK24
    @NmpK24 6 років тому +2

    Ironically AFC are now one league above MK Dons. And that 'famous' cup victory was really against a Man Utd second string team, like many clubs put out now in league cup games .

  • @chazer0075
    @chazer0075 3 роки тому +11

    My dad used to live in Milton Keynes, I watched the 4-0 win in the stadium against United, which was the first match I watched in stadium, mk dons will always have a place in my heart

    • @br-jj6re
      @br-jj6re 2 роки тому +10

      And the crowd goes mild

    • @yodamarmite9701
      @yodamarmite9701 Рік тому +1

      Bro after the whole video you just watched surely you at least question your "heart" at MK . It sickens me.

    • @chazer0075
      @chazer0075 Рік тому

      @@yodamarmite9701 I'm not an mk dons fan lol, it's just a fond memory of mine, it's really not that deep

  • @republicgalaxy4348
    @republicgalaxy4348 6 років тому +1

    wow i knew there was rivalry between the two teams, but never understood why, but now i know, thanks copa

  • @anonymousanomie1
    @anonymousanomie1 7 років тому +5

    Why is everyone so mad about the move? It seems to me that there was no better option for Wimbledon. Their attendance was terrible, they were sharing with Crystal Palace, and they obviously didn't have the resources to make a new stadium.

    • @HelloHello-ek7gw
      @HelloHello-ek7gw 7 років тому +3

      Of what I currently understand the attendance was terrible due mostly to protests against the move and it would be better for a club to die and then be resurrected by its fans without having another team calling themselves in the meantime after destroying the clubs identity

    • @callumbrodie8672
      @callumbrodie8672 7 років тому

      Should have let the club die instead of stealing the league place, Wimbledon clearly had the support as shown by AFC (most are former FC fans)

    • @HTCGaming1000
      @HTCGaming1000 7 років тому +1

      Sway Fuck off mate.

  • @U_C_G
    @U_C_G 7 років тому

    Copa 90 do have some of the best made videos on youtube, always impressed with the quality

  • @brianwilliams8436
    @brianwilliams8436 5 років тому +7

    Nice piece but as a lifelong Womble, I must point out a couple of inaccuracies. Wimbledon beat liverpool 1-0 in 1988 NOT on penalties (I should know, I was there!). Also, AFC held trials on Clapham common, NOT Wimbledon common. Granted, these were probably slips of the tongue but, well, you know.. PS. Elizabeth Beresford wouldn't even let MK Don's use the term Wombles! Way to go Lizzie!!!

  • @josephrichards1396
    @josephrichards1396 4 роки тому +2

    People never really mention Wimbledon but I hope to see them back at top of English football along with my beloved Forest

  • @LMC-xz6qh
    @LMC-xz6qh 6 років тому +4

    Respect to AFC Wimbledon. Screw MK Dons.

  • @jacksayer9658
    @jacksayer9658 6 років тому +1

    And MK Dons’ stadium is 35k bigger... criminal

  • @ellibod1
    @ellibod1 5 років тому +7

    I didn't know how MK Dons formed.. But now that I do, I do question my love for the club

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi 4 роки тому +11

      They've officially renounced any claim to the identity of the the Wimbledon FC club. The only thing left is to change the name.

  • @romanpaguio8545
    @romanpaguio8545 9 місяців тому +1

    Omg I thought the story was the opposite😭 I thought MK Dons was the OG team, and AFC Wimbledon was the corporate greed one…

  • @darganx
    @darganx 5 років тому +4

    4:22
    Correction: Woolwich Arsenal left South London for Highbury around 1919.

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi 3 роки тому

      A club making a united decision to move is very different from a team being bought and relocated against their will.

  • @homerj.simpson7562
    @homerj.simpson7562 6 років тому +1

    MK is easily one of the top three most depressing places I have ever been to.

  • @googleuserone3278
    @googleuserone3278 6 років тому +4

    MK Dons is sadly just the natural evolution of what's been going in in football for a long time. It started with the FA permitting professionalism well over 100 years ago (might not seem controversial now, I bet it was massively at the time), then abandoning the players' wage cap in the 70s, then came all-seater stadiums and huge ticket price hikes, then the Premier League breakaway (so the top clubs could keep all the money) and selling TV rights to Sky etc, and finally stupendous transfer fees and wages all round. That something like MK Dons was allowed to happen amongst all that is unfortunately hardly any surprise at all.

  • @Isleofskye
    @Isleofskye 7 років тому +1

    Wgat a brilliant,insightful analysis. Every word resonated. Well Done !

  • @sourishsaha8067
    @sourishsaha8067 3 роки тому +3

    both great. One in one of the best planned and fastest growing city(Milton Keynes) without football club. Another humble club( Wimbledon FC) got famous and everyone's darling bcz of sympathy.
    Goodluck to both and hope for best future

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi 3 роки тому

      Milton Keynes will need to grow a bit more to be a city.
      "Milton Keynes is the largest town in Buckinghamshire, England" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Keynes

    • @SportyMabamba
      @SportyMabamba Рік тому

      @@Jivviwe got city status in Liz’s Platty Jubes celebrations

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi Рік тому

      @@SportyMabamba Indeed you did. It seems the Wikipedia article was updated sometime in the last two years.

  • @fcbFreack
    @fcbFreack 7 років тому

    Awesome that you bring back these documentations!

  • @YoMama123-p3s
    @YoMama123-p3s 3 роки тому +1

    Mk dons has a beautiful stadium

  • @anty099
    @anty099 7 років тому +11

    I don't see anything wrong with an owner helping a club out with money like Chelsea, but when they change the badge and the kits etc. that's when it pisses me off!

    • @HTCGaming1000
      @HTCGaming1000 7 років тому +11

      Anthony Chitic And move the fucking club

  • @milessalenga6088
    @milessalenga6088 4 роки тому +1

    Nice work bro! You earned my subscription. Just a little constructive criticism: Talk slower, and tone down the background noise when you edit.

  • @BreakBeatStu
    @BreakBeatStu 6 років тому +3

    You’ve done MK Dons and Wilkeman dirty to be honest. I have maximum respect for AFC Wimbledon fans and feel sorry for my old school mate who where avid Wimbledon fans but.... shit happens... Wimbledon could be totally gone if it wasn’t for the move to MK or somewhere else. The idea was for the club to move not split apart (although that was totally inevitable!). Dele Ali and the success MK have had are the proof in the pudding. A new team, a new fan base, and a new culture is rising.
    Liverpool was formed on the back of people leaving Everton, Arsenal moved from south to north of the river, Tottenham were talking about moving to Stratford, shit happens.... max respect to the real Dons but you’ve done MK dirty here.

    • @patrickrichmond6531
      @patrickrichmond6531 5 років тому

      fuck off Winkleman is a sleazy coke head

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi 4 роки тому +1

      No, he told it how it is. Winkleman did Wimbledon dirty, and MK like try to twist the facts.

    • @BreakBeatStu
      @BreakBeatStu 4 роки тому

      Jivan Scarano ... yeah the American youtuber who spent all of a day researching and filming this told us how it is 😒

  • @jonboxleitner7354
    @jonboxleitner7354 6 років тому +1

    Good several quotes from MK Dons owner at the end.
    Very informative piece. Thanks.

  • @aidenhuddleston8087
    @aidenhuddleston8087 7 років тому +3

    MK ARMY !!!

  • @itfc88
    @itfc88 Рік тому +1

    The derby is back next season

  • @HTCGaming1000
    @HTCGaming1000 7 років тому +3

    As a Brentford fan, MK Dons have pretty much mirrored our progress over the last few years, except a year behind and, well, we managed to stay in the Championship, I will forever hate MK. Everything about their club, sorry, I mean franchise, is disgusting. The way it was formed, their fans. I can honestly say it was a pleasure to go to their ground and relegate them back to where they belong. Even after their franchise was relegated their fans walked away from the ground saying things like "I want to go to M&S, I've wanted to go their all day", walking along dancing and clapping, they didn't care they'd just witnessed their team being relegated, they have no passion and it shows, nobody is ever there, nobody ever sings. I have a huge soft spot for AFC Wimbledon after what they've been through and I will openly hate MK Dons forever. Franchise Scum.

    • @jopiedingvink
      @jopiedingvink 5 років тому

      Without the move to MK there was a great chance that Wimbledon it in the fist place not even maked it and then there was now no MK Dons or AFC Wimbledon. So stop complaning and just enjoy your own club.

  • @deletebilderberg
    @deletebilderberg 5 років тому +2

    There’s only ONE Wimbledon.
    AFC.
    Excellent production dude.

  • @renegade5823
    @renegade5823 7 років тому +32

    look at those stats!!!! 3000 at a home game against Everton!!!! Wimbledon fans let the club die no one turned up to the games but when the club HAD to move to survive oh look out the woodwork came these brand new die hard wombles! more turned out to a protest than a home game when they needed you!

    • @HelloHello-ek7gw
      @HelloHello-ek7gw 7 років тому +4

      The fans didn't let the club die, after the three man vote the move was confirmed and up against the likes of Asda etc as the video stated, the fans didn't have a chance of saving their club. Pretty much none of the fans were happy wit playing at selhurst park but when it came to a definitive move outside of London itself that was that. The death of WFC and its resurrection as Wimbledon.

    • @HelloHello-ek7gw
      @HelloHello-ek7gw 7 років тому +1

      Anyway, not only playing away from Wimbledon but the constant threat of moving to Dublin, Manchester etc isn't particularly great is it.

    • @henrydalton-stone7058
      @henrydalton-stone7058 7 років тому +17

      RENEGADE the claim that fans 'let the club die' is one of the most flawed arguments - if you let something die you don't bring it back to life do you? Clearly they were having no influence on the goings-on at the club, so boycotts and protests were the most powerful and visible forms of action they could take... if you continue to show up to games and pretend to happily support whilst your club is being destroyed from the inside, then they use these attendances to justify what they're doing. Protests and no-shows were the most powerful thing they could have done.

    • @raymondbonington9355
      @raymondbonington9355 4 роки тому

      Thought Wimbledon done well considering they had Chelsea Fulham palace on there doorstep .

  • @calldfwp2230
    @calldfwp2230 4 роки тому +2

    afc wimbledon actually have the nearest stadium to where i live

  • @lennon4263
    @lennon4263 7 років тому +4

    Haha finished above you in 2017!!

  • @nickystyles868
    @nickystyles868 6 років тому

    This story is a movie waiting to happen

  • @ukihatter2422
    @ukihatter2422 7 років тому +13

    Wimbledon didn't beat Liverpool on pens

  • @B3Band
    @B3Band 7 років тому

    For the Americans in the audience, Arsenal's move in the early 20th century is like the NY Giants/Jets moving to New Jersey. Wimbledon's move to MK is like the Browns moving to Baltimore. You can't even compare the two.