How Ireland NEARLY Had A Premier League Team

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  • Опубліковано 6 лис 2024
  • When the Premier League was founded in 1992, the Republic of Ireland were ranked sixth in the FIFA World Rankings, had reached the quarter finals of the 1990 World Cup, and - unlike England - would qualify for the 1994 World Cup.
    Despite their international success though, the League of Ireland continued to struggle, and it was in this context that a consortium from Ireland attempted to relocate Premier League team Wimbledon FC to the Irish capital of Dublin.
    In this video, HITC Sevens takes a look at Ireland's efforts to establish a Premier League team, how they were thwarted, and what happened instead - as well as pondering what might have been.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 463

  • @Stelios78910
    @Stelios78910 Рік тому +508

    Literally found out about this last week, but was sad to see so little information about it on Wikipedia. And now Alfie makes a 32-minute video about it. What a king, thank you sir.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Рік тому +9

      Copa90's channel has a couple of very good videos on Wimbledon as well.

  • @owenthornhill9671
    @owenthornhill9671 Рік тому +105

    League of Ireland attendances have increase significantly in the last few years and is getting better, more competitive in Europe including some group stages

    • @owenthornhill9671
      @owenthornhill9671 Рік тому +19

      League of Ireland attendances are massively on the up 👆
      New statistics show that over 34,500 more people attended Premier Division games in the first series of games in 2023 compared with the first series last year ⚽️
      Some 161,502 have passed through the gates so far this season, with the average attendance up to 3,590 from 2,821 🇮🇪
      It all accounts to a 27% rise in supporters attending Premier Division games 👍

    • @danielmurphy8262
      @danielmurphy8262 Рік тому +18

      Now is when the investment is needed.
      Sligo, Derry, Bohs could easily get double their attendances through the door if facilities improve. Pats, Drogs and Dundalk as well.
      Encouraging too that First Division clubs like Galway United and Waterford are regularly getting over 1,500 at their games too. All of Kerry’s home games selling out so far very encouraging

    • @Stephen-lx9nm
      @Stephen-lx9nm Рік тому +2

      Yeah build your own league

    • @owenthornhill9671
      @owenthornhill9671 Рік тому +3

      @Stephen like I'm a irish Wimbledon fan. Who's no.1 team is cork city. The league is growing but had like 50 years of decline & stagnation. So many orish traveling to English grounds and investing in British teams while orish teams struggle to pay the bill is a large part of the problem but thongs are on the up right now

  • @jackkin7
    @jackkin7 Рік тому +111

    There is actually some signs of hope for the League of Ireland actually because since the start of the season attendances are up 20% from the same time last year. The biggest problem for most clubs now is actually that the stadiums are too small to fit the demand which is nice to see

    • @jackkin7
      @jackkin7 Рік тому +9

      Great video too Alfie btw

    • @SamOGr
      @SamOGr Рік тому +18

      A lot of games are starting to sell out which is great

    • @DonCrowseppe
      @DonCrowseppe Рік тому +4

      Mate the stadiums are never full dont be lying, I went to the fai cup final in the 50,000 Aviva and only 30,000 showed up

    • @DonCrowseppe
      @DonCrowseppe Рік тому +2

      Most matches are lucky to have 2000-3000 spectators

    • @DonCrowseppe
      @DonCrowseppe Рік тому +2

      I go Shelburne home matches and away matches vs Pats, Bohs and Rovers the teams can't fill their tiny stadiums these days compared to even the early 00s

  • @danielkarmy4893
    @danielkarmy4893 Рік тому +55

    Now you mention the re-election process, I think a video on that subject would be very useful for a large number of people to see, especially in light of the developments at the top of the National League this season!

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels Рік тому +11

    I went to Selhurst Park in 2003 to see my team Portsmouth play Wimbledon. In protest of the move to Milton Keynes, there were only a couple of hundred home fans in attendance compared to about 10,000 Pompey fans. Wimbledon actually won 2-1 which was a bit of an upset as Portsmouth would win the league that season and get promoted to the Premier League.
    I felt awful for the fans who lost their club but at least AFC Wimbledon are now a league side.

  • @willflint5014
    @willflint5014 Рік тому +84

    Hey Alfie, could you do a video on Glentoran and or their 1914 Vienna Cup? They were the first team from the British Isles to win a European trophy. Their stadium alone has seen plenty of history, especially off the field as it’s right next to the shipyards (the same yards where the Titanic was built) and was even bombed during the Belfast Blitz. The Oval was hit by bombers as it was mistaken for an oil storage facility. As a result, nearly everything was destroyed during the Blitz. The Vienna Cup being one of the only things surviving the attacks. The Historical Belfast podcast did a fine piece on this but I feel Glentoran deserve the HITC Seven’s treatment as well. Also, Glentoran turned away a young George Best. This was because he was “too small.”

    • @paulalexander8874
      @paulalexander8874 Рік тому +4

      Good shout!

    • @Ramtamtama
      @Ramtamtama Рік тому +6

      They were only the 3rd British club to achieve that feat, with Bishop Auckland winning the Coupe Jean Dupuich in 1909 and West Auckland Town having won back-to-back Lipton Trophies in 1910 and 1911.

    • @willflint5014
      @willflint5014 Рік тому +1

      @@Ramtamtama Noted. Thanks! Unfortunately, UEFA does not recognize any of them to my knowledge nor do they acknowledge Glentoran’s 1914 Cup.

    • @blazepukka2264
      @blazepukka2264 Рік тому

      @willflint5014 because they aren't European cups mate, they are local cup competitions that took place in a country in europe but wasn't the best from europe at that time. Basically, it's like winning the milk cup in northen Ireland but just at senior level

  • @TheLaidOffFounder
    @TheLaidOffFounder Рік тому +121

    Let me tell you the true story. About 1995, I was a 12 year old Celtic fan. My father brought me to see my first Celtic game which was Celtic v Hibs in the Scottish Cup Semi. On the flight back I moaned to my dad how Ireland had no big football... and it would be a dream to have a Premier League team in Dublin. On the flight, myself, him and my uncle speculated about how to do it. We came to the conclusion that you would have to try move a team which had a small fan base. We came to the conclusion it was Wimbledon. When we got back to Dublin... my Dad threw himself into seeing how possible it was. The table in our house was cover in papers detailing all Wimbledons players etc. My Dad ended up meeting Sam Hammann... and people like Kevin Moran ... to try make it happen. My Dad gave up on the idea after a while... but it was amazing to see take n up by various parties thereafter. True story.

    • @MA.Dasilva
      @MA.Dasilva Рік тому +23

      you have a great dad he was gonna create a whole new premier league club just for you 😂

    • @damianoregan9160
      @damianoregan9160 Рік тому +7

      Hey Stephen, nice surname. 👍🏻

    • @trevorjoneill707
      @trevorjoneill707 Рік тому

      I'm sure it was

    • @lukegavin124
      @lukegavin124 Рік тому +2

      As a wimbledon fan definetly keep that to yourself if you ever find yourself around dons supporters, still a subject that brings out a bunch of anger for a bunch of us. Cool story though

    • @rorysmith2415
      @rorysmith2415 Рік тому +1

      I would prefer the best of both worlds where we keep our own leagues. But have extra cross border cups with Scottish, Welsh. ENGLISH, Irish. MLS, French and Belgian club sides on top of Eurooean and domestic football. Or a Celtic nations conference in the MLS.

  • @joeheaton7607
    @joeheaton7607 Рік тому +89

    ALOHA ALFIE! Is there any way you could please do a video showing all the worst debuts in history. You could perhaps cover where they came from before their debut, and it would be interesting to see if anybody had such a bad debut thay it had a detrimental effect on their time at the club/rest of their career. Much love and keep up the great content.

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 Рік тому +5

      Jonathan Woodgate's debut at RM was particularly bad, guy waited a year cause of injury, scored an OG and got sent off

    • @CeemPlay
      @CeemPlay Рік тому +1

      Ali Dia

    • @FozzQuaker
      @FozzQuaker Рік тому +1

      @@CeemPlay Ali Dia...Is a Liar, Is a Liar

    • @joeheaton7607
      @joeheaton7607 Рік тому

      Ali Dia is a great shout lmao. JOAO Félix this season and I'm sure ndidi had a shocker on his debut but might be wrong with that last one

    • @cillian303
      @cillian303 Рік тому

      Joe Cole at Liverpool got sent off v Arsenal and then only played 20ish games in 3 years for the club, if I remember right

  • @user-yf4gx9lw6c
    @user-yf4gx9lw6c Рік тому +14

    Alfie have you ever thought about doing a video on the CIS national football team?
    The were created as a replacement for the USSR national team during euro 92. I think it would make an interesting vid.
    Love your channel Alfie.

  • @eastereggs04
    @eastereggs04 Рік тому +7

    Never thought I'd hear Neilstown being discussed in a HITC Sevens video, but here we are

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 Рік тому +20

    I remember hearing about this year's ago that Wimbledon were considering relocating to Dublin and it was in fact the FAI that had blocked the move because they feasted it would have had too much of a negative impact on the Irish game looking back it was a very silly suggestion really without any logic behind it and if Wimbledon were playing their home matches in Dublin every 2nd week no one would have been watching local football at all where attendances are already bad but this move would have officially killed off the League of Ireland entirely so common sense at least prevailed in this instance

    • @cribbe6547
      @cribbe6547 Рік тому +2

      common sense prevailing in the FAI, especially back then must have been an accident!

  • @constablekennedy7705
    @constablekennedy7705 Рік тому +13

    Always with the Classics ⚽️. 🔥

  • @YesOkayButWhy
    @YesOkayButWhy Рік тому +2

    Longford Town fan (who?) here in Ireland. Great video as always, Alfie.

  • @danielmurphy8262
    @danielmurphy8262 Рік тому +5

    To add some context to how ridiculous a 40,000 seater stadium in Neilstown would have been/is, Neilstown is practically a large residential estate between Lucan and Clondalkin, which at the time each would have housed roughly 10,000 residents.

  • @macdaraomiachain4121
    @macdaraomiachain4121 Рік тому +3

    Thank you Alfie brilliant video. I'm from Ireland and it brings me back to that time we nearly got a Premier league team.

    • @mulhern1988
      @mulhern1988 Рік тому +1

      Why would you want won - The most west Brit idea Ive ever heard

    • @macdaraomiachain4121
      @macdaraomiachain4121 Рік тому

      @@mulhern1988 I believe it would of improved Irish football. How many irish people follow the Premier league we would have our own team. I believe it could of worked alongside our own domestic league

    • @mulhern1988
      @mulhern1988 Рік тому +2

      @@macdaraomiachain4121 MK dons where Wimbeldon moved to are 19th in League one. Shamrock rovers would be a better side than them. So why not just support ur own.

    • @icemanire5467
      @icemanire5467 Рік тому +1

      ​@@macdaraomiachain4121 only thing that will help the league is when Irish people start supporting it. Irish people are football developments biggest obstacle.

  • @criscurtean
    @criscurtean Рік тому +10

    I can see Ireland today as a very strong and passionate nation in football even just watching the euro qualifiers but am I the only one who thinks that "Dublin Dons" would have made terrible nicknames of " Dublin Ding Dongs" or "Dublin Knobs" by other supporter groups? No just me, ok ill leave this here. Great video Alfie

  • @bonifaceodoemene6608
    @bonifaceodoemene6608 Рік тому +1

    One of my favourite videos from this page 👏🏾👏🏾

  • @soundscape26
    @soundscape26 Рік тому +19

    Suggestion: the downfall of Romania and Bulgaria's National Teams (and good players by extension) after a very good period in the 90's. Neither has managed to qualify for a single World Cup since 98 and the few European Cup participations have been pretty poor.

    • @Clem_Fandango11
      @Clem_Fandango11 Рік тому +1

      He did Reading a few weeks back. George Puscas image came up quite a few times 😢😢😢😢😢😢

    • @barra6709
      @barra6709 Рік тому +2

      I remember that wonderful 94 Bulgarian team

  • @jhaych
    @jhaych Рік тому +39

    I believe you may have already done a video on this, if not then a documentary on why Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham play in the English football league

    • @Tazza81
      @Tazza81 Рік тому +33

      Because when Wrexham, Swansea and Cardiff were formed there wasn't a Welsh league.

    • @legogandalf5453
      @legogandalf5453 Рік тому +12

      And Newport

    • @Weirzy
      @Weirzy Рік тому +10

      And Merthyr Town :p

    • @hypehd9694
      @hypehd9694 Рік тому +11

      Don't forget my team Merthyr Town

    • @MrSniperfox29
      @MrSniperfox29 Рік тому +3

      Simply put, the league was expanded and Welsh clubs were offered places based on how strong they were

  • @AnthonyY
    @AnthonyY 4 місяці тому

    This was such a cool video to watch, big Dundalk fan from Chicago, currently in Texas. Happy to learn about some of my Irish roots in the sport, Sláinte 🍻

  • @blusonic
    @blusonic Рік тому +19

    I’m probably unique among most here that I live in South West London, am a Shamrock Rovers fan and don’t support an English club.
    I frequently go to Wimbledon with a true die hard Don.
    This was a stain on everything and everyone involved. A slap in the face to the LOI, the dons, their fan base. It was an example of the horrible corruption of the Celtic tiger and it’s telling that almost all involved (on the Irish side) are vilified or held in contempt “post boom”
    “The Bertie bowl” and all that goes with it. Bastards. C’mon the hoops - 4 in a row here we go.

    • @Orielparadise
      @Orielparadise Рік тому +2

      Yep and you still hear this armchair expert talk about how great it would've been for Irish football, make cringe so bad.

    • @tonydalton459
      @tonydalton459 Рік тому

      Well said. Not a Rovers fan (Pats) but wholeheartedly agree. Would have been an absolute disgrace if this had been allowed to happen. I remember the period well.

    • @Stand663
      @Stand663 11 місяців тому

      It wouldn’t have worked anyway. Irsh fans would’ve poison the atmosphere with sectarianism. The premier league doesn’t need that. And besides the premier league is global. It’s shown in a 150 countries equalling over a 2 billion fan base and still growing..

    • @blusonic
      @blusonic 11 місяців тому

      ⁠​⁠@@Stand663what a narrow minded concept, “sectarianism” on the basis of being Irish? I hope you manage to broaden your ideas.

  • @liammcdonagh4242
    @liammcdonagh4242 Рік тому +13

    Loving the Irish content Alfie. “32” minute video as well 😏

  • @paulalexander8874
    @paulalexander8874 Рік тому +10

    I remember Clydebank being linked to a Dublin group too. They were hoping to play in the Scottish leagues not long after this

  • @Racc988
    @Racc988 Рік тому +3

    Alfie, as you are a Hull City fan would you happen to remember a young player who played once for Hull by the name of Simon Russell. He went on to play hundreds of times in the national league and he’s now my PE teacher

  • @apollinirish5515
    @apollinirish5515 Рік тому +7

    Oh god, I couldn't imagine a Prem team in Neilstown, it's an absolute kip

    • @Conorguill
      @Conorguill Рік тому +2

      Lots of Prem stadiums are in neighbourhoods you could describe as ‘kips’

  • @BALHAM69
    @BALHAM69 Рік тому +12

    Thank you, Very nice work 🎉
    What is next planned in your documentary series?, how Borussia Dortmund almost went bankrupt in 2002 time?😮
    Or how Club Atletic Oradea won the Hungary League as it is a Romanian team now 😊
    What on earth is going on series - Inverness Caledonian thistle
    If you look at how they been in their current League for a six years now
    They look like they won’t ever get back to SPL 😢

    • @patricksharkey3097
      @patricksharkey3097 Рік тому

      You have been requesting it for years lol

    • @BALHAM69
      @BALHAM69 Рік тому

      @@patricksharkey3097 yea, it is up to Alfie what he wants to do
      We as viewers can suggest topics 😊

  • @Finno-kx4rl
    @Finno-kx4rl Рік тому +6

    And today shamrock rovers u14s just won The Hale cup against top academia such as city spurs and arsenal

    • @icemanire5467
      @icemanire5467 Рік тому

      Irish clubs at youth always so well. The infrastructure to develop youth is shambolic unfortunately. I remember St Kevin's beating Man United, Athletico, Stoke and Barcelona

  • @gekikaara4248
    @gekikaara4248 Рік тому +8

    The shock I felt hearing the name of my local shopping centre leave Alfies mouth can't be described

  • @Quanny69
    @Quanny69 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for covering this love the videos

  • @callumthornton2205
    @callumthornton2205 Рік тому +7

    The 7 most confusing/unorthodox league systems

  • @Ben-tf4fk
    @Ben-tf4fk Рік тому +15

    Posting for the 9th time:
    I created an all-time XI with no overlap of international careers - no player was active for their national team at the same time as any other player.
    Here it is (with the years of each player's international career listed in parentheses):
    🇩🇪 Oliver Kahn (1995 - 2006)
    🇩🇪 Manfred Kaltz (1975 - 1983), 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Bob Crompton (1902 - 1914), 🇧🇷 Thiago Silva (2008 - ), 🇩🇪 Andreas Brehme (1984 - 1994)
    🇺🇾 José Leandro Andrade (1923 - 1930), 🇮🇹 Ugo Locatelli (1936 - 1940)
    🇮🇹 Valentino Mazzola (1942 - March 1949)
    🇧🇷 Pelé (1957 - 1971), 🇧🇷 Neco (1917 - 1922), 🇭🇺 Zoltán Czibor (May 1949 - 1956)
    Manager: 🇨🇿 Karel Petrů (1931 - 1935)
    If you choose to ignore the position of manager, Ugo Locatelli can be replaced in midfield by 🇦🇷 Antonio Sastre (1933 - 1941).
    How about making a video featuring an XI you created using this limitation (and without using uncapped players)?

    • @lucaslonchampt613
      @lucaslonchampt613 Рік тому +2

      I dunno if he'll ever make a video out of it, but props for the creativity

    • @bigstan5705
      @bigstan5705 Рік тому +1

      Bob crompton was shite i rinced him in training nearly every week. If it wasn’t for our stupid manager that had a grudge against me you’d be putting my name on that list

    • @paulguise698
      @paulguise698 Рік тому

      like Steve Bruce

  • @bundesautobahn7
    @bundesautobahn7 Рік тому +4

    I deleted my previous post because I was wrong there. But here's a thing to ponder: Milton Keynes is the home of both the MK Dons, and Red Bull Racing. Why hasn't RBR (or Red Bull proper) picked up the MK Dons and grommed them into championship contendors yet (like with e.g. RB Leipzig)? Plus the club could serve as the Red Bull Racing football works team as well, like the VfL Wolfsburg is to Volkswagen or Bayer 04 Leverkusen to Bayer AG.

    • @gilbertknight1488
      @gilbertknight1488 Рік тому +1

      There were proposals by red bull but they got turned down

  • @gmlpc7132
    @gmlpc7132 Рік тому +1

    Fascinating video. There have been other cases where owners have proposed moving clubs hundreds of miles to what they saw as a bigger fan base, e.g. in the early 1990s someone proposed moving Maidstone United who had no ground in Maidstone to the Newcastle area but that was ruled-out. I remember the Wimbledon to Dublin proposal and don't think it ever had much chance of being accepted. Thankfully in England and I think most other nations we don't have a franchise system as they have in other sports where owners can move clubs / teams hundreds of miles and rename and rebrand them. Instead we very much have the idea that clubs are rooted in their locality and while many things can change that cannot. I suppose the exception to that would seem to be Wimbledon's ultimate move to Milton Keynes but that was seen rather questionably as the only way to save the club. It was a highly controversial move and I can't see it being allowed again - if it were the floodgates could open.

  • @he_football
    @he_football Рік тому +8

    Diego Simeone would have had a field day with that Wimbledon team

  • @bengibson3298
    @bengibson3298 Рік тому +2

    Future is actually bright for League of Ireland & 🇮🇪⚽️ in general!!!

  • @ArcadiaJunctionHobbies
    @ArcadiaJunctionHobbies Рік тому +3

    The Irish would have lost interest as soon as they realised the Dublin Dons would be playing in the lower divisions and would have been out of business within two years,
    Ireland has a decent a fairly well supported league now and we do not suffer from the same level of insecurity as we did then. Also having lived through this JUST ABOUT EVERYONE involved was a white collar criminal on the Irish end.

    • @tonydalton459
      @tonydalton459 Рік тому

      Absolutely. The main attraction for Irish football “supporters” would have been for Liverpool and Man U fans to get to see”their” teams play in Dublin. You would have had a bizarre situation where the home supporters would have been vastly outnumbered by opposition fans. And if relegation happened, interest would soon have dropped off. As someone who supports my local team I’m so glad this never happened.

  • @depekthegreat359
    @depekthegreat359 Рік тому +2

    Since I have just only heard about Wimbledon,one of my favourite respective clubs ever to be nearly changed the nationality from one of my ancestrial nations England to Ireland which was a travesty to identity of the club which was being rescued,good friends!!!Now,they are in the English Fourth Division but I fully hope that they would slowly be back to their past best and see them having their own identity,good friends!!!:-D

  • @seamusoconnor4776
    @seamusoconnor4776 Рік тому +5

    Hi Alfie,love the videos. Any chance you would ever do a video on the Austrian Wunderteam star Mattias Sindelar(aka The Papery Man)and his suspicious death in 1939 after his anti-Nazi stance?

  • @creaghzer1
    @creaghzer1 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video. I remember the whole Dublin Dons fiasco well. The whole League was against this at the time despite Dunphy, some dodgy developers and crooked politicians being on board. No matter what way this would have went eventually, it would have been a disaster.
    Being a diehard St Pat's supporter from Clondalkin, this would have destroyed the catchment area for a club who, at that time, were the biggest in the country. St Pat's main areas of support (outside of the immediate vicinity of Inchicore) are Clondalkin (in which Neilstown is situated), Lucan, Cherry Orchard, Ballyfermot and in to Kildare. All still huge catchment areas for the club today fwiw. Some form of Wimbledon planted there would have decimated all of that. Shamrock Rovers move to Tallaght, not far from Neilstown, might not have happened either.
    It's all 'what ifs' but thankfully, in terms of attendances and standards, the League of Ireland is in a good place, MK Dons are shit and AFC Wimbledon are a sustainable Football League club playing in the area they're originally from with a history to be proud of.

  • @michaellonsdale7372
    @michaellonsdale7372 Рік тому +8

    They also offered Wimbledon fans flights to Dublin at the time if the team moved there

  • @ebw9802
    @ebw9802 Рік тому +1

    Great video again Alfie

  • @StrangeUrr
    @StrangeUrr Рік тому

    I remember this at the time, I also remember being shocked at how popular the idea was amongst my friends and work colleagues! It was all pie in the sky though!

  • @samgunn12
    @samgunn12 Рік тому +4

    Those heady days when Southport was in the 4th division. 🥺

  • @ASIKGIDKW
    @ASIKGIDKW Рік тому +5

    This could be a good idea for Create a Club

  • @johnburns4017
    @johnburns4017 Рік тому +2

    AFC Wimbledon are *not* older than MK Dons. Wimbledon FC changed their name to MK Dons. Same club, change of name. Many club's have changed their names.

  • @trevorjoneill707
    @trevorjoneill707 Рік тому +1

    a Dublin man remembering all of this, totally agrees with you Alfie

  • @dokmatic1
    @dokmatic1 Рік тому

    Amazing work as always

  • @LankyBhoy
    @LankyBhoy Рік тому +2

    Day 1 of asking for a video about the rise, fall, and rise again of Queens Park FC, oldest club in scotland, from being in the third division and on the brink of bankruptcy 10 years ago, to the brink of promotion to the top flight now

  • @shamrockgerry
    @shamrockgerry Рік тому +1

    League of Ireland ☘️⚽🇮🇪🏆. Is growing and talk of all. Ireland professional football league ⚽

  • @byrnej1324
    @byrnej1324 Рік тому

    Im womble til I die ! So happy you made this video on our ridiculous story. The history, the betrayal, the revival. Being in the south stand at plough lane singing at the top of my lungs fills me with so much pride and I wasn't even around for all of the chaos (Pre-AFC)!
    Two times out of non-league!
    were never gonna stop.
    From franchise to the FA, we beat the f@cking lot!
    From Batsford to Dave Bassette
    At Plough Lane we belong
    We are loyal supporters!
    And we come from Wimbledon!
    alle alle alle!

  • @IrishShea
    @IrishShea Рік тому

    Very much appreciate the dig at my club (Waterford FC) rivals Cork City with their damaged roof, nice.
    I really can't believe that this was a thing, an Irish club supporting an English club.. no chance of that ever happening.. oh wait.. never mind.
    Fancy becoming a Waterford FC supporter lad? g'waaaan ya will! our owner also owns Fleetwood Town, just in case that tickles your interest.

  • @barra6709
    @barra6709 Рік тому

    Great video, Alfie. I knew the story but not in as much detail.

  • @callumbrodie8672
    @callumbrodie8672 Рік тому +8

    Perfect segway for an AFC Wimbledon video 👀

    • @AJ-ct8om
      @AJ-ct8om Рік тому +2

      That story we've never heard before? The one that doesn't actually go over facts and just acts like Wimbledon were moved for a laugh?

    • @callumbrodie8672
      @callumbrodie8672 Рік тому +1

      @@AJ-ct8om Where fans had their club ripped out of their community and started from the bottom, that one?

    • @AJ-ct8om
      @AJ-ct8om Рік тому

      @@callumbrodie8672 Same community that didn't give a shit about its club and let it play 7 and a half miles up the road averaging 14k attendances in the Premier League and 7k attendances in the Championship? That community?

    • @callumbrodie8672
      @callumbrodie8672 Рік тому

      @@AJ-ct8om Yeah mate, that community. What's the point you're trying to make here?

    • @AJ-ct8om
      @AJ-ct8om Рік тому

      @Callum Brodie that the story has been told time and time again, and everybody has already decided the narrative- which rarely concentrates on what WFC did wrong, including the fanbase

  • @louielouie95
    @louielouie95 Рік тому +1

    Video Request: What On Earth Is Going On At Portadown?

  • @briannao9251
    @briannao9251 Рік тому

    Please make a documentary about the following topics:
    -Corrine Diacre’s controversial/toxic tenure as the manager of France’s Women’s National team which lead her to get sacked last month
    -The alleged attack on Kheira Hamaroui by her own former PSG Teammate Aminata Diallo
    -The drama/scandal surrounding Gregg Berhalter and Gio Reyna’s parents during the 2022 FIGA World Cup
    -Ranking all of the goals that won the FIFA World Cup Goal of the Tournament Award

  • @Shane-Lad
    @Shane-Lad Рік тому

    Great video well done

  • @stevenwebb3634
    @stevenwebb3634 Рік тому +8

    Would Freddy Adu have played for them if they moved to Dublin?

  • @Joe-MT
    @Joe-MT Рік тому

    Very interesting ❤ Can we have a video about Maltese Football please? Thank you

  • @2020onwards
    @2020onwards Рік тому

    Fantastic content

  • @Conorguill
    @Conorguill Рік тому

    I remember this time. Great summary

  • @louielouie95
    @louielouie95 Рік тому +1

    Speaking Of Ireland
    Could You Do What On Earth Is Going On At Finn Harps?
    They Were Relegated From The League Of Ireland Last Season

  • @louielouie95
    @louielouie95 Рік тому +1

    Video Request: What On Earth Is Going On At Dundee United?

  • @Clem_Fandango11
    @Clem_Fandango11 Рік тому +3

    Remember this well and the uproar that went with it. It really was a non starter.

    • @CatchMeUp
      @CatchMeUp Рік тому

      I mean, yeah, except they moved the team to some bullshit new-estate in England instead. Hardly seems better. Seems like some kind of American sports-owner bullshit that should never be allowed.

  • @aravindk.s2330
    @aravindk.s2330 Рік тому +4

    What could've been a meteoric shift for Irish football

    • @Orielparadise
      @Orielparadise Рік тому

      Wouldn't have been good in the long run. Wales is a good example, clubs are mostly foreign players to remain competitive and player development is mediocre because of a low amount of clubs (4) with any academy set up and these still get poached by bigger academies. This also subsequently killed the Cymru league and so many players just don't have a decent path forward if they aren't deemed good enough, young enough by the 4 Welsh clubs.
      This would've only been more exasperated in Ireland

  • @michaelgibbons4738
    @michaelgibbons4738 Рік тому

    i remember reading in Darragh McAnthony (peterborough chairman) he was looking at getting involved in moving Wimbledon to Dublin as well. How true this is i cant comment

  • @Chris-ob9qy
    @Chris-ob9qy Рік тому +2

    Alot of people in Ireland now support the league of Ireland, and it's only on its way up with a lot and nearly all games sold out every week. So please don't diss the league of Ireland.

  • @eeeeewewew
    @eeeeewewew Рік тому +1

    I am so thankful that this didn't happen. What's needed is more money at league of Ireland level.

  • @RADFROOD25
    @RADFROOD25 Рік тому

    Yet another quality video

  • @chicagogamer420
    @chicagogamer420 Рік тому +1

    What a shame. I’ve been trying to pick a team to live and die by throughout this whole season and haven’t decided yet. This would have been an easy choice

  • @Jorgemagottnumber9
    @Jorgemagottnumber9 Рік тому +2

    In the first 5 minutes of this video Wimbledon scored 2 goals, by the end of it, we lost 3-2

  • @powerviolentnightmare5026
    @powerviolentnightmare5026 Рік тому +1

    Glad that never worked out. From my personal Irish perspective it would be rubbish to have a team in England of all places.

  • @roberw1912
    @roberw1912 Рік тому +8

    I am old enough to remember it being on the news. It would have been cool to have had Dublin having a team in the Premier League. I think the problems were FIFA not liking teams from different countries playing in other leagues. I am sure it would have been good for Irish football and the national team.

    • @paulgorman1305
      @paulgorman1305 Рік тому +13

      How could it have been good for Irish football, the league of Ireland has always been neglected, I remember this situation well, and I for one glad it didn't happen.

    • @patrickdalton2424
      @patrickdalton2424 Рік тому +4

      ​@@paulgorman1305 exactly it would've been awful for irish football

    • @ConorMccabehere
      @ConorMccabehere Рік тому +3

      Would've finished the LOI. As for the national team, this club would've gone the same way as all the other Premer league teams, stacked with foreign players, so how would that help the national side?. It was an awful idea and thankfully never got off the ground.

    • @roberw1912
      @roberw1912 Рік тому

      For a start there would be a World Class training facility in Ireland, Irish players will be better scouted, LOI would get players on loan. Dublin could support a 60,000 seat stadium and that's more than the LOI total attendance. Ireland would have a team the nation could gwt behind. Its also likely to be top 6 team with the size of Dublin similar to Merseyside with one team, plus with its Irish heritage it would be popular around the World. The LOI does nothing for Ireland except being a national embarassment being such a bad league.

    • @paulgorman1305
      @paulgorman1305 Рік тому +5

      @@roberw1912 pure bollox talk, are you Irish no ? You know nothing about the league of Ireland, most of the league would folded as they would have been competing for spectators from day one. The league would have got nothing but the money men would have lined their pockets, it's as simple as that.

  • @maropengrampyapedi938
    @maropengrampyapedi938 Рік тому +1

    Irish,Scot and Welsh fans hate the premier league.u found them everywhere in the internet,arguing with people how the epl is not the best league

  • @tdurb0
    @tdurb0 Рік тому +2

    MK Dons is the only football team I wish would die. A stolen club. I’m a Derby fan and I wouldn’t say that about Forest or Leeds, but MK Dons are everything I hate rolled into one club

  • @e_o_zoca
    @e_o_zoca Рік тому +2

    Day 6: best XI Brazilians that played for other nations

  • @jaydendennett7548
    @jaydendennett7548 Рік тому +38

    If we had an Irish team in the Premier League that would be shocking.

    • @od9694
      @od9694 Рік тому +4

      Why??

    • @jaydendennett7548
      @jaydendennett7548 Рік тому +1

      No idea.

    • @Support-your-local-team
      @Support-your-local-team Рік тому +9

      Would have been atrocious for the Irish league to be fair.

    • @od9694
      @od9694 Рік тому +9

      @@Support-your-local-team I don't think it would have been the league of ireland already is competing with Premier league teams they already have rearranged the season to avoid competing with them, it would have drove interest in the sport as well as brought investment into the sport rather than being dependent on john delaney crooked fai

    • @paulgorman1305
      @paulgorman1305 Рік тому +3

      @@od9694 they didn't reschedule to compete for an audience, they play during the summer to help compete with cl/euro qualification.

  • @GoatedCannibalistic
    @GoatedCannibalistic Рік тому

    Make a video about the best teams from every continent

  • @BrazilRonaldinhoFreekick-zm2hv
    @BrazilRonaldinhoFreekick-zm2hv Місяць тому +1

    This was ridiculous, this was never a runner. This proposal ruined the plan for Eircom Park which would have given the FAI a proper ground. Dunphy has never been an Asset to Irish football. Destorying the game from within.

  • @luxford60
    @luxford60 Рік тому

    Interesting. I had been aware of some of that obviously (I'min my 50s so remember some ofvtge news coverageat the time), but there was quite a lot that was new to me.

  • @michaelairley2015
    @michaelairley2015 Рік тому +7

    No thanks. You can't hate the English and at the same time squeeze money from their league too.

    • @Azzi_0161
      @Azzi_0161 Рік тому

      Exactly. Don’t want them in this league. Let them enjoy their dead league

  • @abgy237
    @abgy237 Рік тому

    When I heard about Wimbledon to MK, I laughed it off knowing the Dublin move had been defeated. MK really killed off Wimbledon FC

  • @ScotisticDad
    @ScotisticDad Рік тому +1

    Video request - the forever spoken about but never actioned plans to amalgamate 2 or more of the following leagues: Scotland, Ireland, N.Ireland and Wales.

  • @RW-nr6bh
    @RW-nr6bh Рік тому

    Like most football fans I'm glad Wimbledon never got moved out to Dublin. However perhaps a little different in that I think a UK, or at least a British, Premier Division at the apex the League structure (obviously not including the Irish Republic) is something I would very much like to see. The whole UK isn't geographically a big country, far larger countries maintain national Football Leagues. I know it'll never happen, partly because the Home Nations don't come under a UK national team. That in itself is perfectly normal to us, but I wonder how it looks to outsiders. Countries made of numerous different nationalities like the USSR and Yugoslavia fielded united teams throughout their history, yet the UK doesn't for football (except notionally at the Olympics).

  • @jamieroe8
    @jamieroe8 Рік тому

    As someone who grew up in Neilstown in dublin I never heard about the idea of a premier league club being based in the area.

    • @DonCrowseppe
      @DonCrowseppe Рік тому

      Neilstown lol pls sir can I have my car back haha jk being from ballymun I shouldn't talk robbed cars

  • @remmidemmi496
    @remmidemmi496 Рік тому

    Well to be fair with all the Irish-blooded players playing for EPL teams and in the England national team you could argue that Ireland has already taken over English football anyway. Maguire, Kane, Grealish, Rice, Philipps, Maddison, Wilson, Gallagher, to name a few and before them there were Rooney, Scholes, Gascoigne and Greaves (and a few more). Also, without Ireland there would hardly have been such a strong English grasp on pop culture with The Beatles, Oasis and loads more having a strong Irish heritage. I've always wondered what English culture would look like without its Irish influence. The answer is: probably a lot less intriguing.

  • @Chronicthekid
    @Chronicthekid Рік тому +1

    7 best leagues outside of Europe.

  • @paulguise698
    @paulguise698 Рік тому

    Hiya Alfie, I think Wimbledon were a disgrace to the Premier League (YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS), I was so chuffed when they got relegated, Bradford beat Liverpool 1-0 and Wimbledon got beat 2-0 off Southampton, Wimbledon only got 1 point in the last 13 games, in the 1999-2000 season, it was good when you showed Workington Reds at the start, as they are the closest team to me, the 3 clubs I ever wanted to be seen Relegated out the premier league were Wimbledon , Southampton and Wigan, and thankfully all have been relegated sooner or later,this is Choppy in Whitehaven, Cumbria, England

  • @DidYaServe
    @DidYaServe Рік тому

    Well researched as always.

  • @JSL2000
    @JSL2000 Рік тому +1

    That same team would be in Conference South now. Dublin had a very lucky escape there.

    • @Conorguill
      @Conorguill Рік тому

      There’s no way to know what would’ve happened if they had come to Dublin

    • @JSL2000
      @JSL2000 Рік тому

      @@Conorguill That is definitely true. All we can do is guess. My own thoughts are that the people of Dublin would have got bored of a side with no Irish players, interest would have tailed off, and once the team left the premier league, it would have been free fall. But you're right, we will never know.

    • @conorsmith8551
      @conorsmith8551 Рік тому

      Kenny Cunningham played for them . As did David Connolly . If they’d attracted better players , could have won support

    • @JSL2000
      @JSL2000 Рік тому

      @@conorsmith8551 Maybe. We'll never truly know. The key to success would have been always reaming in PL. If they went down, QPR and Bristol City would have been a lot less attractive.

  • @louielouie95
    @louielouie95 Рік тому

    Video Request: What On Earth Is Going On At Sampdoria?

  • @gilesrush1703
    @gilesrush1703 Рік тому +1

    Alfie totally missed the greatest story in football not once but twice Wimbledon have gone from non league to league one

  • @Ballerism
    @Ballerism Рік тому

    What editing do you use ?

  • @raymonddixon7603
    @raymonddixon7603 10 місяців тому

    Glad it never happened. A disastrous idea. The Irish Premiership is going through a tremendous growth at the moment, with sell out crowds at most grounds. Admittedly the grounds need vast improvement due to lack of investment in infrastructure by governments. There has been a huge anti soccer movement within the corridors of power in Ireland leading to the Galway soccer manager saying at a recent soccer event that most politicians in Ireland have never been to a League of Ireland game. Amazing, but true. The President of Ireland is an honourable exception.

  • @ItsTheBoombox
    @ItsTheBoombox Рік тому

    As a irishman, most of us can barely name a few leauge of ireland teams, yet can name most premier league teams

  • @redheadredemption1573
    @redheadredemption1573 Рік тому +8

    Bit of a shame this fell through.
    Obviously, it's horrible for a club to be stolen from its community, and the best outcome would've been for them to stay in London, but since the team did move, Dublin would've brought a lot more to the Prem than Milton-Keynes ever did.
    A great what-if.

    • @thomchak
      @thomchak Рік тому +7

      It would have been potentially terrible for the League of Ireland. I'm glad it never happened.

    • @wavell14
      @wavell14 Рік тому +5

      How's it a shame? The sort of thing a plastic would say

    • @Azzi_0161
      @Azzi_0161 Рік тому

      We don’t need your pro ra fans in the premier league. Glad it felled through

  • @cecerchio
    @cecerchio Рік тому

    I've been fantasising about a Gaelic league, similar to the rugby one, with Scottish, Irish, northern Irish and Welsh teams taking part. With top tier and second division and domestic leagues acting as third tiers. Cardiff, Swansea, Celtic, Linfield, Wrexham, Shamrock Rovers...
    It will be more competitive overall and rival the FA leagues.

  • @actuallynotsteve
    @actuallynotsteve Рік тому

    How many minutes until Alfie actually starts the story? I'm gonna go with 3 and hope for the best.

  • @Ese96Agoaye
    @Ese96Agoaye Рік тому

    20:58 Reminds me of England's Euro 2012 squad picture.

    • @donalobrien9422
      @donalobrien9422 Рік тому

      No wonder they lost with only 10 players. 😮

  • @alphabetkidd
    @alphabetkidd Рік тому

    Am I the only person who expects Alfie to turn into prime DR Dre ever time he intros a doc with “sit back relax” and strap on your seatbelt

  • @bluffironside917
    @bluffironside917 Рік тому +2

    Luka Modrić likes your videos