Congratulations. Your going to love it. It's often super nice to have the 'mill' AND a 'mini-mill' so you don't have to remove work/fixtures from the mill when you have something less precise to work on. Unless you really see a use for the combo-lathe-mill configuration, you might consider keeping your DIY mill for those second operations that can benefit from a more precise 'drill press'. 👍👍😎👍👍
Congrats on the new mill! I've been very happy with my 727V and with PM support. I actually found your channel for the great info on using treadmill motors when I was putting one on my die filer. That was before I started making videos though so it's not on my channel.
I have a couple friends who are gunsmiths/1000yd benchrest shooters like i am who have PM mills and lathes and out of newer stuff available now days are supposed to be really well and they are happy with them
I had the same issue with my 833TV mill when it arrived, although I wasn’t there when a co-worker took it off of the truck. It was on two pallets and the top one had started to break and the mill and the boxes on top of the crate were a bit wobbly. Luckily I had it delivered to work where I had the use of a forklift truck to deal with it and there was no damage. The top pallet was just too flimsy for the weight. I think that P.M. had put it on the second pallet for shipping after installing the DRO and it was a good thing that they did.
some times I think shipping company don't know how to get a package delivered without damaging it. 😂😂 It didn't help that the main 2 X 4 running down the middle of my top pallet was rotten. Would not have taken much of an impact for it to splinter.
@@dazecars thats awesome. Im sure you probably havent really pushed it yet but im curious about what kinda chip load it can handle without bogging down. Im sure it's got enough to it to do tool room quality work in any material. Super excited for the surface grinder build! One is on my to-do list as well as a tool and cutter grinder and turn an older lathe bed into a shaft grinder and whatever else i can do with a grinding wheel set up like lathe tooling. Some day when i tool up a bit more i want to try my hand at grinding the male/female screws for a rotary screw compressor
I have not done more than some small cuts .01" or so BUT I have seen video where this same type of machine did .075" cut in steel with a 1/2" end mill and did it without any issue at all. I too am looking forward to the surface grinder build especially since it is mostly ready to go already.
I HATE THAT!!! 😂😂😂 I can usually edit myself out with some carefully timed zooming and other media manipulation but I could not make it happen with this video. Don't worry my ugly mug will not be in future videos if I can help it 😁
@@dazecarsUgly mug? Nah man you look like a cool ass mofo that has the same interests as I do. Congrats on the new mill man, I'm super stoked for you!
I would not have take possession of the mill. I had a similar issue. I was inspecting a machine curb-side and saw that it had been subjected to abuse. It wasn't clear if there was damage, but I didn't care. If you can't take care of the machine in transit, then it is your problem to return it.
I would agree with that statement had I gotten it from anyone except PM. Their CS is top notch and I knew they would stand behind any issues. The ONLY damage was to the paint in a few spots. Rejecting the shipment would have only created complication, not to mention I live in the rural NW and often by the time things get to me they have encounter an issue along the way so a second shipment might not have been any better or even slightly worse.
Great piece of machinery you bought, congrats on that. Couldn't understand the system on the left hand column with the handle. Looks like a kind of oiling circuit with the small line going to the z axis saddle ?!?!?! But love the 19" of travel you get on the x axis. Happy playing with that.
OK, found an article about that on the web and and i'm shure my mill doesn't have that lines in the ways. I guess your new mill is allready modified to accept the oiler. Might be a good project for the near future! Didn't know about such a system, thanks for the info daze.@@dazecars
A lot 😂😂😂 The basic mill is $3699 then shipping is $200 and an additional $79 if you need a lift gate at delivery. Thats just the basics but you can add power feed, tooling DRO and CNC components and all that will cost you a bunch more.
I'm looking at getting the pm 25 mill what do you recommend for vise size I currently have a siege x2d mill with a cheap 4 inch vise but with a new mill concentration I'm going to get a Kurt vise but not sure if I should get a 4" or 6 "
I have a 3" and a 4", I mention this only because the 4" is almost twice as big as the 3" so I can only imagine how much bigger a 6" would be. Not sure if Kurt makes one but if the pattern hold true a 5" might be about the perfect size where as a 6" would take up too much bed? I really can't say for sure not having put hands on a 5" or 6"
Its not about copying This Old Tony, it's about not actually being in the videos. So many youtube creators want to be seen, its about them being in front of the camera a "look at me" attitude. For me it's about the content and the information I am trying to convey. My channel is totally different than TOT. While our channels may be similar in that you only see my hands thats where the similarities end.
Sorry about that. There are a lot of trolls out there that I hear from on a mildly regular basis. Without voice inflection and body language its sometimes hard to tell a joke from a real statement. Glad you like my contant and that you are going to keep watching 😁
Congratulations. Your going to love it.
It's often super nice to have the 'mill' AND a 'mini-mill' so you don't have to remove work/fixtures from the mill when you have something less precise to work on. Unless you really see a use for the combo-lathe-mill configuration, you might consider keeping your DIY mill for those second operations that can benefit from a more precise 'drill press'. 👍👍😎👍👍
That is an excellent point... but then I would need to build the surface grinder from scratch 😂😂😂
Great addition to the shop. Look forward to seeing it in action.
Most of my time has been spent setting it up, but I have managed to make a few chips with it and it is so smooth and so accurate. Very happy with it.
Great machine! You're going to love it. I got a Precision Matthews PM-25 with the DRO option last December and I love it.
You are correct. Only used it twice and I already love it!!!
Congrats on the new mill! I've been very happy with my 727V and with PM support. I actually found your channel for the great info on using treadmill motors when I was putting one on my die filer. That was before I started making videos though so it's not on my channel.
thanks!! only used it twice and i'm loving it already
I know you are gonna love that machine. Nice tip on the spring steel. I have a friend.........
just one?
I have a couple friends who are gunsmiths/1000yd benchrest shooters like i am who have PM mills and lathes and out of newer stuff available now days are supposed to be really well and they are happy with them
I know I am ver happy with mine. I have done a few "upgrades" to it but that would be the case with any machine I purchased.
Awesome I know you are going to love that tool I can’t wait to get one myself enjoy
I have already used it twice, neither of witch were deep cuts and it is smooth like butter. I am vey impressed.
I had the same issue with my 833TV mill when it arrived, although I wasn’t there when a co-worker took it off of the truck. It was on two pallets and the top one had started to break and the mill and the boxes on top of the crate were a bit wobbly. Luckily I had it delivered to work where I had the use of a forklift truck to deal with it and there was no damage. The top pallet was just too flimsy for the weight. I think that P.M. had put it on the second pallet for shipping after installing the DRO and it was a good thing that they did.
some times I think shipping company don't know how to get a package delivered without damaging it. 😂😂 It didn't help that the main 2 X 4 running down the middle of my top pallet was rotten. Would not have taken much of an impact for it to splinter.
Thanks for sharing your experience
That is what I am here for
Ive been looking at precision matthews one day for my shop. Excited to see how it performs.
made a few chips not a ton but OH MY is it nice!!
@@dazecars thats awesome. Im sure you probably havent really pushed it yet but im curious about what kinda chip load it can handle without bogging down. Im sure it's got enough to it to do tool room quality work in any material. Super excited for the surface grinder build! One is on my to-do list as well as a tool and cutter grinder and turn an older lathe bed into a shaft grinder and whatever else i can do with a grinding wheel set up like lathe tooling. Some day when i tool up a bit more i want to try my hand at grinding the male/female screws for a rotary screw compressor
I have not done more than some small cuts .01" or so BUT I have seen video where this same type of machine did .075" cut in steel with a 1/2" end mill and did it without any issue at all. I too am looking forward to the surface grinder build especially since it is mostly ready to go already.
Congratulations!! Now I finally know what you look like. A fun!!
I HATE THAT!!! 😂😂😂 I can usually edit myself out with some carefully timed zooming and other media manipulation but I could not make it happen with this video. Don't worry my ugly mug will not be in future videos if I can help it 😁
@@dazecarsUgly mug? Nah man you look like a cool ass mofo that has the same interests as I do.
Congrats on the new mill man, I'm super stoked for you!
Thanks!!! Doesn't change the fact that I don't want to be in my videos 😂😂😂
I would not have take possession of the mill. I had a similar issue. I was inspecting a machine curb-side and saw that it had been subjected to abuse. It wasn't clear if there was damage, but I didn't care. If you can't take care of the machine in transit, then it is your problem to return it.
I would agree with that statement had I gotten it from anyone except PM. Their CS is top notch and I knew they would stand behind any issues. The ONLY damage was to the paint in a few spots. Rejecting the shipment would have only created complication, not to mention I live in the rural NW and often by the time things get to me they have encounter an issue along the way so a second shipment might not have been any better or even slightly worse.
Great piece of machinery you bought, congrats on that. Couldn't understand the system on the left hand column with the handle. Looks like a kind of oiling circuit with the small line going to the z axis saddle ?!?!?! But love the 19" of travel you get on the x axis. Happy playing with that.
That is a way oiler hand pump. It oils all 3 ways with a single pump
OK, found an article about that on the web and and i'm shure my mill doesn't have that lines in the ways. I guess your new mill is allready modified to accept the oiler. Might be a good project for the near future! Didn't know about such a system, thanks for the info daze.@@dazecars
It actually came with the oiler installed. It was a feature that all of this type of mill come with.
Nice mill.
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Sure is. I’ve only made a few chips with it so far but it is so smooth and sooooooo accurate.
Nice looking mill. How much does such a mill cost ?
A lot 😂😂😂 The basic mill is $3699 then shipping is $200 and an additional $79 if you need a lift gate at delivery. Thats just the basics but you can add power feed, tooling DRO and CNC components and all that will cost you a bunch more.
WoW m’y dream, thanks share with us
You bet!
Sweet..!
Very!
I'm looking at getting the pm 25 mill what do you recommend for vise size I currently have a siege x2d mill with a cheap 4 inch vise but with a new mill concentration I'm going to get a Kurt vise but not sure if I should get a 4" or 6 "
I have a 3" and a 4", I mention this only because the 4" is almost twice as big as the 3" so I can only imagine how much bigger a 6" would be. Not sure if Kurt makes one but if the pattern hold true a 5" might be about the perfect size where as a 6" would take up too much bed? I really can't say for sure not having put hands on a 5" or 6"
head alignment? Cheers
Normal tramming procedure. Took me a bit to get it dialed in but I got it within.00015” end to end.
What's a tubafore?
funny... its a brass instrument that plays the low notes in a band 😂😂😂😂
This old Tony called; he wants his shtick back. . .
Is nothing sacred ?
Its not about copying This Old Tony, it's about not actually being in the videos. So many youtube creators want to be seen, its about them being in front of the camera a "look at me" attitude. For me it's about the content and the information I am trying to convey. My channel is totally different than TOT. While our channels may be similar in that you only see my hands thats where the similarities end.
@@dazecars it was just a joke brother. In good jest. Keep doing you man. I’ll keep watchin.
Sorry about that. There are a lot of trolls out there that I hear from on a mildly regular basis. Without voice inflection and body language its sometimes hard to tell a joke from a real statement. Glad you like my contant and that you are going to keep watching 😁
@@dazecars I hear ya ! It's all good man..
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