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Those Dewalt saws are AWESOME! I use mine for brush trimming, cutting ABS pipe, trimming the exhaust pipe on my recently installed Cummins Onan INVERTER GENERATOR and many other projects around the house.
Secondary Gate valve is a must. Last time I dumped, I was met with a smelly surprise behind my cap. EEEEWWWWWWWWWWW
Our fresh tank drain is a little closer to the side of our rig than yours but i ended up cutting off the factory dump valve and plumbed in a 90 and brought it out to the edge of the camper and put a quarter turn shut off valve in the line so that i don't have to crawl back under the camper to open it anymore. i also plan to do the same thing with my hot/cold low point drains later on just to make life a little easier!
That gate valve is great. We had a site with no dumping. We dont use shower in our unit. And our unit has 2 grey tanks. Galley and shower. So with that valve closed we were able to open both grey tanks. Made it so we only needed a pump out once
Got the gate valve from your advice in the video you first mentioned it, works great!
Great tip! Fun story, actually forgot to replace the cap on the rear drain this past weekend. Was off grid, fired up the water pump and couldnt understand why it wasnt building pressure. Meanwhile all my water was being pumped out the rear drain. sigh...live and learn!
Well Scott I'd like to say HAHA! But I've done the same and I'm embarrassed of how long it took me to figure it out.
I like that the RVs I have had have a large gate valve to dump fresh water with a handle thats easy to get to.
My dump valve is 1" 1/4 PVC came that way
Good video for the beginners. My sewer comes out higher up and I have clear pipe after the gate valve elbowing down vertically and the cap has a small 1” cap also for drainage if you get leakage past the gate valve. That’s when the clear pipe comes in handy. It obviously not used to drain the whole tank, just what’s in the tube past the gate valve.
Every RV and travel trailer I've ever used had this installed. That was when I was a kid late 80's early 90's and responsible for the sewer when we stopped. I can't believe they're not included anymore. I'll check since I'm in the market. It's going to be a free upgrade from anyone that wants my business.
I added a few feet of pex to my water tank drain. Routed the drain and ball valve to the curb side so I can easily fill a container with water from the safe side of the trailer. Any time, without hookups while on the road and without going to the road side of the trailer.
I just got my 1st travel trailer, based off of lots of JD’s videos and these are the videos I look forward to seeing now.
I did this because we installed a composting Toilet. I sanitized the black tank. Then when my gray tank fills up I can open the (old black valve) an let the over flow gray fill my (old black tank). This let's me stay out camping longer. Double gray tanks!
Ours came wit one on each of the grey and black water. I love it.
Nice timing on this video. The sewer surprise just happened to me this past weekend. I will definitely be doing the gate valve upgrade!👍🏻👍🏻
I carry 2 of the valterra valves. I also added the 1/2” shark bite ball valves to my low point drains, and supply lines to my toilet and sinks.
Good tips! Your channel always offers the best content for anything RV related, keep up the good work!
I also like putting a ball valve on the hot water tank with a 3/4 hose fitting for easy draining
I installed a gate valve in this location after seeing a video on flushing the waste tank with your grey water tanks using this valve. Works great. Also it’s going to be a little more trouble to replace that gate valve now if it ever goes bad. I used safety wire to secure mine. You can’t see it and it keeps the valve locked in place so it doesn’t twist.
@bigtruckbigrv We have added a ball valve to ours as well but before the ball valve I also added a 90 and brought it out closer to the side of the trailer. I don't have to crawl underneath the trailer to dump the freshwater tank. We always drain it on the last stretch towards home, no reason to keep dragging it around, water is heavy. BTW the 2 things you can legally dump on the road are potable water and feathers
I have both upgrades and I also put a valve on the overflow valve so I don’t lose water while driving. Don’t worry I always open the overflow when I park or if I’m filling the tank.
Never say always.
@@chucknSC 😂 good point
For the valtera valve I would use a rubber coupling from the big box store and hose clamps and fasten it with that so I can replace the valve in the future without cutting more pipe if it ever breaks
I have had 3 travel trailers in my life. A 98Coachmen,14Prowler and 19Rockwood and all 3 had the valve at the end of the pipe. One other thing you have to remember to close gate after dumping.
I lightly sand the exterior and interior of the mating surfaces. Makes for a better bond with the glue.
The gate valve is a great idea. I would just add that even though they usually work great, it is important to make sure no debris is blocking the valve blade or it won’t fully seat and even though you may think it’s closed that debris will keep it slightly open. Any residual waste in the pipe will still end up at the cap and be waiting to greet you when you take that cap off.
Get a mesh screen, and insert it between the low point drain and the ball valve. Prevents bugs from getting in.
Our RV sat for 4 years with the 1.5 inch drain valve wide open. No bugs set up house in there. Even if they did, you should fill with light Clorox solution and dump before using .
My fresh water tank has a 2” gate valve you pull to completely empty it. 1/2” seems small and long on drain time. 🤔😉
We have the same on our GD Reflection. 👍
I have that as well. However, it doesn't completely drain all the line. To do somrequires opening the low point drain(s).
Ok, you convinced me... for both. Near-future upgrades!
I ordered the ball valve. What a great idea, thanks JD!!
I attached my twist on one with a couple of pieces of plumbers strapped to the skirt with pop rivets. My brand of RV has a 2 " gate drain valve built into the fresh water tank. Maybe that's what your brand should do.
Just used your link and ordered 2 ball valves for my low point drains.
Adding a ball valve to the overflow tubes will allow you to close them on the road to prevent siphoning. You just have to remember to only have them closed while traveling. They need to be open to use the pump or fill.
My Jayco Pinnacle already had this factory equipped. I agree it’s very handy.
Great info, on my TT the gate valves for both are so close to the end though I don't think adding the extra valve would make much difference. For a relatively cheap stick and tin trailer it also has quarter turn valves already on the low point drains and a big gate valve to dump the fresh water tank, both nice features when draining the system. That said I'm taking it back to the dealer to have it looked at under warranty, when hooked up to city water it will slowly fill the fresh tank. Probably just an issue with the check valve at the pump, but its under warranty so that can be their problem.
The drain only has 1 or 2 psi on it.
Every camper I ever had came with a drain valve. My Open Range has a 1.5 inch dump valve, very fast.
8:30 Cardboard makes a better ground cover when working under vehicles or RVs. Why? Because you can slide on it! I use it all the time.
You should get the 'Camco Ready to Use Gate Valve with Built-in Clear Adapter' then you would know exactly what it in the inside of your valve.
It’s truly amazing 😉 what you can do with one hand 🤚 !
A guy at the campground I was in had a garden hose attachment to his hot low water drain. I asked him why, and he said he used it to flush out his hot water tank. I guess he pulled the anode and back flushed it out every year. It was the first time I had seen that.
The man has good taste in time !! Omega!!!!👍🏻👍🏻 give us a look at it sometime!! Would love the hear a short review,likes or dislikes on it sometime!!
My trailer all ready has those installed. 2020 Rockwood
Instead of using the abs coulpling and glueing I would have used a no hub clamp … this way the valve could easily be replaced if it goes bad in the future
Where do you get the No Hub Clamp?
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Home Depot Lowe’s plumbing supply etc. it’s for connecting cast iron drain lines but fits pvc and steel pipe also … not sure about abs
I put a Valterra valve on each of my sewer pipes and they work great, the one negative thing that happened to me was the bracket holding the end of the long pipe broke after driving on a very rough highway. I think the extra weight of the value and the long pipe was too much for the thin strap, I have since beefed up the holder and no problem.
I broke a plastic nub off the end of my pipe when the cap was frozen on. To fix it I just got the glue on gate and broke off the other 3 nubs and just glued the thing on. Really makes dropping the black water alot less messy
Man JD this is so right on and I copy all of the item you mention, I do have the twist on kind and when I was at a camp ground I was hooking up the sewer hose at night and I made a big mistake on twisting it off in the middle of dumping, so needless to say it wasn't pretty I was a little taken back so I had to clean up everything I was glad that it was at night so my next door neighbor wouldn't see me. I will be doing this on my next mod as soon as I order these and get them back I will be installing them, another great video. I will be ordering from etrailer I have done a lot of business from them.
As a new RV'er, I am loving your channel. Love the low point drain ball valves and plan to order them ASAP. Quick question regarding the Valterra upgrade. Does ABS plastic pipe not require a primer before cementing it, as I believe PVC pipe does require a primer. Just curious. Great video!
No primer needed for ABS
Abs does not require primer, but it should be cleaned with pipe cleaner first (contains MEK) that removes any contamination and starts the softening process. Abs uses a solvent weld which liquifies the pipe and fittings and as the solvent evaporates, it hardens again as one piece. Pvc on the other hand is merely glued, and it requires primer to clean the joint and bond properly. If ABS is not cleaned, it’s not the end of the world, but you run the risk of having voids that form and allow air and water to pass through them
My trailer has 2 40 gallon fresh water tanks the low point drain for each are on the door side betweent he door and wheels. It came from the factory with a plastic ball valve. I put the same on the overflow so I don't lose water going down the road.
Those are your plumbing line low points. You'll also have a freshwater tank low point.
@@BigTruckBigRV Next time your near a Jayco Jayflight 32bhds take a look or I can send you a picture, the plumbing low points are near the door as well. Those are how I sanitize the fresh water tanks so I know they are connected to the tanks.
we recently got a forest river r-pod year 2020 model and it came with the gate valves on the black and gray water tanks
Great idea
Hi JD we enjoy all you videos ! We were wondering how you feel about dual pane windows? Are they helpful with sound and Condensation? We’ve heard so many mixed reviews on this.
I already bought the twist on valve and you are right, removing the cap ends up twisting the whole thing off. I am going to try your set screw idea, but they really should design it to connect with an opposite twist from the cap. As for adding on the ball valve, Jayco Eagles come with that valve on the fresh water low point. Why did you only add it there and not to your other low point drains?
That is a great tip!!
If you got the right balls out with the right thread that cap can go on into the ball valve to prevent any insects in your small 16th of a hole 16th of an inch hole in it so let any sleep each out
My trailer came with these features from the factory. Crazy to think that some manufacturers don't offer this as a standard item.
Great ideas. Tired of crawling under our rig.
I thought you were going to install the ball valve in the line feeding your spray ports. One of your complaints was about the spray of water that accompanies attaching a spray hose to the spray port. With a ball valve in the line, you could remove water pressure from the port.
Two super easy & simple upgrades. Maybe it’s my ignorance, but why aren’t all drain valves the same from low point drain to LPD? I have a couple different styles on my Jayco 5th wheel and i don’t understand why. Of course I keep saying I’m going to replace them to be all the same and haven’t yet.
Great information! Thank you.
Thanks! Great information!
I have never dealt with any of this because I don't have an rv. But what comes to mind is you have from your tank to this point now with fluid. Doesn't that put a continuous strain on the pipe and braces while traveling. Are you saying that while your driving that you have emptied your tank and your pipe here is empty? Is this a 2nd valve in line from the first? Sorry to be a pain, trying to understand the workings.
11:07 I'm shocked that the axles on your RV have the brake wiring zip tied to the outside of the Axle Tubes. Dexter always puts them inside the axle.
Dexter actually installed them
PS what you just did was a great idea I'm going to do the same to mine for that valve and the fresh water overflow
Don't cap the overflow. If you ever forget, you'll bust the fresh tank and worse.
Good additions.
Great video!! Would you put the ball valves on the hot and cold drain lines or just keep the factor caps on them?
I'm sure you already mentioned it like a zillion times but man having a quick disconnect for hoses is a must have unless you are pretty much stationary.
I ran all my drains out to the side of my camper with valves at The end. That way I don't have to crawl under my camper to drain my tanks
I used that same stainless valve on my hot water heater. Hard to find one that would fit in such a unique space. Atwood water heater so no Anode.
Couldn't I just take the first one (with coupler) and put the ABS Cement on the inside of coupler and on the outside of sewer connection, twist to lock and have that be just as good?
I wouldn't surface area is to small and isn't bevelled always hold pipe in place for 30 seconds.
My TT has the gate valve for the black tank from the factory. Do you think it’s necessary to put another one at the end or is the one installed sufficient?
Well, it really depends on how high the risk of material to be stuck between the gate valve and the end.
That Valterra was a poo saver for me this past weekend. I forgot to close my black tank handle after my last trip. Had I not had the Valterra installed I would have had a disaster when trying to hook up at the dump station
All those pipes hanging down below your TT seem like they would be easy pray for rock/road debris breakage.
Nice cut JD!
Use leak lock instead of tape. Don't have to worry about tape drying out
Hi , not for the same subject , but what type ( brand ) of tire are you running on ??? Thank you
Regarding the waste valve install, what do you do if for some reason the valve needs to be replaced?
You repair or replace it. It's the same with the other values off the tanks.
Dont forget the possibility of freezing for northern people. Meaning leave it open when connected in the winter.
I fill the exterior drain pipes with antifreeze for winter freezes and no cracks yet. Just pull handle in the spring amd drain it
@@getnautical9579 In the winter, and anytime I am not using it, I just leave all the valves open and the caps off.
Picked up the valve for $22 on ebay and the coupling for $11. Just searched the part numbers.
I'd be nervous with the handle exposed facing forward with road debris hitting it snd breaking it. Would handle facing up or back be better?
Any reason you wanted it mounted at a slight upward angle?
Thank you for this info. 👍🏼😃
I have an entry-level, low grade TT that came from the factory with a gate valve on both the black and the gray water. I’m not sure why your high-end 5er doesn’t already have them.
Well, you don't have remote gate valves. So, the end valves are all that you have in place. Fifth wheels generally have cable actuated valves.. these just put an additional valve at the end.
use stainless steel safety wire to connect them together
My family’s rv already has the gate way valve
My $10,000, 2006, Fleetwood, Mallard, 180CK, came with a gate valve installed as OEM.........very odd yours didn't, being the much higher end trailer.
Would y’all recommend using the ball valves on the low point drains all the way around? Would be awesome to not have to unscrew every year.
I put a 90 at the end so when I open it drains away from me.
Do you still recommend Sulastic springs, or other suspension upgrades? I just bought a ram 3500 srw, with factory airbags, and it’s really bouncy unladen.
Shouldn't you use pvc primmer before the cement ?
Not needed on ABS
@@ryanhessler8966 Ahhh...gotcha. Thank you
Why can’t I just glue on the one you first talked about? That’s what I already have.
I guess you could but it isn't designed to be glued
The glue isn't designed to work on that type of compression coupler. It wouldn't have the adhesion you'd want
That isn’t going anywhere said every dad lol
Hey Jadie, so I know you talked about it before ,but I can't remember what video it was that you talked about the tires on your fifth wheel.
I have the Goodyear endurance that comes on the new fifth wheels especially on the Jayco. What is the best tire that you have found? is it sailun tires? Or what would you recommend. I'm wanting to get the best tire I can for my RV. Thanks again for all your help and what you do, we look forward to your videos
I replied to your email sir
Ok thanks J D
I was wondering if could help me out. I’m camping at the moment and before I took my camper out I had plugged it in to start the fridge the next day the fridge is hot and the freezer has turned into the fridge how do I get it back to normal it is very humid where I am camping. I checked everything it’s all working fine on the fridge. It’s not keeping cool my thermostat for the fridge I bought that you recommended says the freezer is at 50 degree Fahrenheit and the fridge is at 77 degrees Fahrenheit
I would just run a couple of turns of gorilla tape around the connection. Then you can take it off easily enough.
No Primer? I always use primer then glue just to make sure the connection is solid.
You don't use primer on ABS per the instructions on the can.
Sorry but I don't understand why that particular didn't have a gate valve for gray water and one for black water. Seems odd???
I have the ground control as well with the snap pads. Debating putting on some JT Strong Arms. I had them on my old TT and they made it rock solid.
IF you have room l, I would have put it straight up. Because over the year there will be build up and will cause leaking.
$50 upgrade is retail. RV manufacturers can get them wholesale.
So confused. I've owned several travel trailers. Done literally tens of thousands of miles, over a hundred parks. I have *never* encountered a travel trailer or RV *without* a built in gate valve on the gray and black tank outlets. Who makes such a horrible thing?
EVERY RV should have one of the permanently glued on waste valves at the termination point. NO RV should use the twist on gate valve. I got one from Amazon first and honestly, it isn't IF the valve comes off on you, it is WHEN it comes off on you. The twist on products should be recalled and NEVER recommended as a viable product to anyone. Luckily I never had a big spill because of it, but it barely holds in place. Save yourself some headaches and just get the glued on one!!! And please, for the safety of everyone, you should emphasize how unsafe the twist on ones are and discourage their use.
Why abs glue instead of pvc glue? Aren't these pipes pvc?
No hence the difference in the name, ABS to PVC. Different types of plastic
@@ryanhessler8966 yes I know they're different types of plastic. Its my understanding from working on my brother's trailer that the pipes are usually PVC. That's why I'm asking JD, and not some random person that doesn't know what's on JD's 5th wheel
@@aaronbritt2025 clearly they are ABS.....as they are black which is why he used ABS cement.
@@ryanhessler8966 yes, and he said ABS. And in another comment he clarified that it's ABS. I've never seen an RV with PVC SEWER piping.
I would have mounted it so you would have it pull up instead of to the side. Hope you don't hit it on something!