Being Sloppy
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- The plaintiff says he brought his sweet 1988 Mustang GT to the defendant’s shop for a paint job, but she did such sloppy work that he’s embarrassed to drive it. He’s suing for his money back. The defendant says the plaintiff told her he was pleased when he picked up his car, and she denies owing anything.
Case 29-059
I'm glad the judge changed her verdict; I was hoping she wouldn't send the plaintiff back to that lady. She was lying.
My God, she lied constantly!!!
She was lying slurring drunk & high too
@@keyshiakeyshia40 Yes she was lol I wish they would have named her shop!
That lady was horrendous!
Me too!!
I like how the judge went outside with the plaintiff and defendant to look at the car. The defendant was lying. The plaintiff is entitled to getting his car repainted somewhere else.
It's not the entire vehicle so why would he get back everything?
@@carlyy8284 can they fix a part of it? Won't it look better to completely repaint it?
@@carlyy8284 I have 16 years detailing and I can 100% tell you of there is dust in the paint in one spot that every panel on that car has dust in it and it will need to be completely repainted.
@@carlyy8284 with paint jobs you have to repaint the whole thing (segment of metal plastic. Like if it's on the hood of the car, it has to be the entire hood.) because it won't look even otherwise.
Touch up jobs are not paint jobs. Touch up jobs are never perfect, they're always 'close enough I guess'.
Dam rights great car a great guy
They tried to brush him off he wasn't having it
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That's that old-school, polite but firm and logical way of doing things. Wish more people were like that.
There are people who still believe that old means stupid.
He's too old for the bull.🤣🤣
We need to protect our elders at all costs ❤️❤️❤️
I love pops! He’s thoroughly accurate and was not playing! Glad he won!
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She didn't respect the American Muscle, it was an old junker to her, ignorance wasn't bliss this time 😂
He was more than fair, giving them a chance to right the wrongs by taking it back once, and they still gave him back a trash job. I thought he was very reasonable.
I would like to say "spoilers" as yt posted this under the vid, but I am seriously happy to hear this beforehand.
Edit: his smile at 12:14 felt so satisfying.
@@granitemoss1451 I agree. When he said "there is yellow spots on my bumper" and they didn't even reduce it, then they show that the company won't service him no matter how many times he complains.
She talked herself into that well deserved loss
Good!!!!!
I was so happy! He deserves better!
For real. The judge was so reasonable and fair by saying - Just honor the warranty.....and she had the audacity to continue to justify her defense as to why she didn't need to honor it - when it's a freakn national chain and that should be the immediate protocol, no exceptions!
i agree! when you show zero contrition, it definitely goes against your.
It was so funny. If she had just stfu and taken the ruling, they could've fixed his car at cost and saved themselves money. The fact she kept trying to argue that somehow his paint just was fine and didn't need fixing showed that she was acting in bad faith.
They screwed up his paint job big time and have the nerve to try and wriggle out of the warranty
When she said he must have hit something I knew he was gonna win his case
Uh-Oh Better Get Maaco
@@dougsmith6077 yeeeeep
FACTZ...
"I'm too old for all the angry excitement." Cute! 😂
Ha! 😆
I'm older than dirt and get annoyed with stupidity.
He should have gotten back every dime based on the defendants egregious and indignant attitude alone.
Your words made me smile, i love posts well written....English teacher🤗
Exactly indignant
Well spoken. Bravo. 👏
@@lndavis01
🙃🙂 defendant's
I agree!!
I hate these types of managers. Always putting the blame on the customer when clearly something was done incorrectly.
That is a lot of money for such a piss poor job maybe she should find another line of work!!!!
omo pics. piss work makes you momey there
He should of recieved all of his money. The total car has to be repainted. The painters needed to man up and give back the money they did not earn.
Maybe even SHOULD HAVE.
@rapheALtoid it's (it is) the same thing. 🤦♀️
What is wrong with you people?! It's "should have," not "should of!!" Ugh!!
@@bethanntay the latter two
no he shouldn't, part of that amt was for the labor, they did the the job albeit not perfectly but they did it and should be compensated for their work, that's the law. this guy was OCD with this car, glad they didn't give it all back to him.
“Bottom line, the judge just didn’t have faith in you.”
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#Hilarious
“Can I tell you something?” She has said nothing of significance.
Glad the plaintiff won and doesn't have to deal with the defendant any longer. He already said he gave her one chance to fix it and they didn't. Her attitude in court says it all. Wish he had another estimate to fix it, he may have received more $$!
"It feels exactly like any other car I have felt up" and then she smiles directly at the camera. Ha ha
I know that's right O G .... You're only getting one chance to screw me over! 💯
I live that judge M goes the extra mile to go outside and I spect herself. She’s awesome. Never seen her do that before.
Judge made a good call not making Pops go back to the same paint shop. She woulda kept refuting stuff and it woulda just went even worse. Smart call. She saw the personality and character of the defendant. I like Pops.
Judge Milian is really good at her job...a little on the edge, but good at feeling out the truth.
“Can I tell you something? ” 😂
😂😂😂🤣🤣... that part
If you're the type of person who is going too drop $3,000 on a paint Job for a car. You're the type of person who's will notice all the imperfections.
Truth!
you say that because you drive a rusty toyota and don’t know what paint is supposed to look like.
don’t be cheap, buy a new truck so you can comment on how good the paint looks without spots all over it and NO rust.
buy a truck today !
If I spent 3k on a paint job, it better be right
@@ayophil : right on !!!
it’s now where you can’t get away with a bad job because people pay good money and want a good job no matter what business you’re n. life is expensive and quality is priority or you will shut yourself down by not performing. the customer deserves the best you have to give, if you don’t get that, don’t even start a business.
don’t know where these people work because even if you have a simple job you should be giving 100%, just by having pride alone. a job in a warehouse or stocking shelves deserves you making things look good,
For an entire paint job 3000 is not much
"I'm too old for all the angry excitement" I need this on a tshirt and coffee mug.
Unc might have a new business venture idea 😂
He's so adorable
Maybe you should marry him then, hehehe!!!
The defendant sounded like she’s blaming me things and not wanting to fix anything. I lost faith in her fixing the problems
I 100% think the Judges ultimate decision was correct.
@@Talula-Darling it was absolutely 100% 50% correct
he should've gotten the entirety of what he paid, you don't have to be a pro painter as a judge or have a defendant with an estimate for fixing the 'damages' (which would've been a total repaint) to know, as a judge, that the error would be obviously systematic, possibly both active and deferred
"Slow your roll...you can't be serious." -Judge Milan. I wish more people in this world were like this plaintiff. Good attitude and he talks sense.
How is it not fair he get all his money back when what he paid for wasn't done?
Time to bust out my favorite People’s Court explanation! “The point of a lawsuit is to make yourself whole, not have a bonanza.” Presumably, there was still work that the defendants completed on the car...I’m not a paint shop or anything, but I would assume there was prep work done on the car before painted, and that’s still technically worth SOMETHING. Also, if the new shop only has to do a patch job for the shoddy spot work instead of a complete redo, that means at least half of the work the defendants did was passable, and thus they still get paid,
It seems unfair, but if the judge awarded all of his money back, she’s basically undoing the contract, and it’s like the plaintiff never went there in the first place (which I’m sure he wishes was true). We don’t know what condition the car was originally in...for all we know, they did a phenomenal job on the roof and shitty everywhere else!
@@Bakaferret right. You get a 2 pc with a biscuit and a side of mac n cheese. You don't like the chicken but you eat the biscuit and mac n cheese. You shouldn't get a refund for the whole meal. Just the chicken.
@@TheRedScareIsAlive Damn, I’m jealous of how you were able to provide that example so succinctly.
@@TheRedScareIsAlive you dug into Judge Judy’s bag of examples. Lol
I reckon that if he had provided a couple of estimates to have it redone elsewhere she would have honoured one of them.
“Low liiiiife” 🤣
🤣🤣🤣 now thats a classic 🤣🤣😳
So petty 🤣
Lmao he was petty asf💀
Harvey is the low life for saying that.
I'm so glad he was able to articulate himself well as a senior citizen and get some justice. He sounds like Mike Tyson!
Awe, clearly he is practically deaf and has been for a long time.
@@lisamendez7479 It's easier to be kind.
Right! He explained himself well to be an elder
@@Wendypretty1 yes, he is clearly hearing-impaired and probably was like that from birth based on the way he enunciates certain words. Some people don't know how such a person sounds and make poor comparisons. On the other hand, this gentleman is from a generation where they were taught to be polite, firm and logical when arguing a case. Thumbs up to him!
Not nice at all.
What a treat that Judge took us on a field trip… and we got a glimpse & her toes and shoes were on point and we never get to see them lol
The guy with no car had me weak Haha poor guy Harvey did him dirty 😂
LOWWWW LIIIIFE
It was a great comeback (as a joke) as they guy was joking that you always should judge someone’s character by the car they drive and yet he has no car- therefore, no character! That’s what he meant. His GF was a dunce with her remark. She actually believes it.
Muscle from the late 60’s is where it’s at. Chevy, Ford or Dodge.
@@CoachPerk68 her glare at the end to Harvey was kinda scary lol she looks like she gon do something 👀
Lady's just lucky they didn't name the chain. I don't imagine having her go on national television and saying "meh, looks good enough to me" would be good for business.
It's only like two major chains Maaco being the biggest
Definitely Maaco. don't ask me how I know.
@@midas617 😂😂 I believe you ...And I won’t ask you how you know .
Maaco was on Undercover Boss. Franchise owner was seriously cutting corners. This lady was a terrible franchise owner.
Her shop did a shoddy job all the way around. While Maaco is a discount painter (a good body shop would be 3-4x that for the whole car because it’s disassembled) there is no reason an exterior paint job couldn’t be done well.
I’m pretty sure it’s Maaco they have gotten really sloppy over the years!
Oh yeah I always expect dust particles after a paint job...give me a break! Poorly run franchise - I’m pretty sure they have a low average score on Yelp.
And her saying the dust can be buffed out is completely wrong you can't just buff out dust under clear coat or paint 😂
I love this man. His voice is soo settling. I have a lottery customer and we actually call him pops. His voice is very calming and if you ever hear this man angry or a different tone then you know you really really messed up
That lady is ridiculous!
Very!!!
Judge!!!! Give him alll the money back.
It felt like any other 🚗 I felt up 😁😂😭
😂🤣😂🤣
One of my brothers had an older model of a Mustang, & it was nice. But, when I got my '84 Chevy Capri Classic 4-door, I was in love with it & I've never had as nice of a car like it again. I miss it as much as I miss the dog I had 40+ years ago!!! I WANT MY CHEVY BACK!!!
I wish the Plaintiff were close enough he could take his car to my son-n-law's shop. He & his partners do outstanding paint jobs on vehicles! That's the kind of work they do!
Every time she lied she started off with can i tell you something lmaoo
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Awesome judge to go out to see the car, I love you Judge, you are human and your contribution to society is great.
Thank you People's Court for uploading these !!! I look forward to it
Going outside to look at a car takes me back...all the way back to the Judge Wapner days.
Yes 👏 I just thought the same thing. Thought it was Perry Mason or Matlock😂😂😂😂
Exactly!
Yesss lol
she didn't buy.thr wig at georgis
I wouldn't take my car back to the defendant!
If you can buff it out then why didn't they???
Exactly!!!
I love the interview at the end.
“How do you feel about the decision?”
“Well I don’t think it’s fair, blah blah blah”
“Well what are you telling me for? The case is over already, ok the door is that way!”
I like that they went outside to look at the car in person.
I have always wanted to see what the People's Court looked like on the outside too.
She's clueless. She waited for the judge's answer and rephrased them herself. Good for dude to get $$$ back!
The guy at the end is always so funny he don’t be caring what you got to say 🤣
Good customer services is everything!! I loathe when you get services from any place and you are rightfully dissatisfied and the company rep wants to argue with you and make up a scenario!
He over proved his case and still didn't get a complete refund of his money.
Watch the ending.
Watched it completely. He didn't get all his money back.
@Andrian Prince I guess your obvious explanation is Racism then, right? He’s not entitled to ALL of his money back. What law school did you graduate from? 🤦♂️
@@adrianprince7266 She said They're gonna look at a price quote from somewhere else. She didn't invent a random number to return, they obviously cut the footage where they looked at estimates.
@@jmcrazy7w what’s the obsession with racism? Nobody even brought that up.. get a life
I could paint a car better than that and I can’t paint worth beans!
Big chain, Wonder if its maaco or earl scheib 🤔
I bet its maaco
Both are low budget paint shops. I think $2700 for a white coupe seems to be on the high-end for Maaco or Earl.
Of course it is.
Papa KNOWS what he's talking about.....that car has overspray......and fine dust...
And if that "yellow" stuff
Is the base color of the fiberglass parts.....then
their paint should have had
a base coat UNDER the color, because their paint did not grab onto that yellow........😬
Somebody find out the name of that paint business so we can all go elsewhere!!! Who wants to pay over 2,000 dollars for a paint job and have to keep going back for peeling paint, dirt particles in the paint, bubbles in the paint, paint overspray on the windows, etc? AND the contract, she says, states that the customer should *expect* dirt particles? Really?
That's a less than ghetto business with paint techs that should be washing dishes and scrubbing toilets....NOT painting cars!
I really hope that someone is capable of fixing the paint issues on his ride, it's important for him and he totally deserves to get it done correctly. Him and his wife are seriously the cutest!❤
I totally disagree with the judge. She saw how the defendant was and he shouldn’t have to return to them from the jump. Then the defendant continued to lie and be unreasonable, then she makes the right decision. Full refund is due for that subpar job. She’s being cheap on this one.
As a painter.....i would of never left there car leave the shop. You should be proud of your work.
I have never seen Judge Milian go outside! That was so cool. I love her!
Her sense of humor is amazing it like any other car 🚘 I felt up 🤚🏻 idk what saying or talking about 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Judge really brought everyone on a field trip
The plaintiff is 1000% right. I feel like they tried to take advantage of him bc he’s a senior citizen. Karma gets deceptive people!
He said I’m too old for this sh*t. Give me my money back lol
Excuses after excuses! I wouldn’t take my car there , she doesn’t care...
“Can I tell you something?” Lol
Lol kept tryna dodge the questions😂
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Such a treat seeing what the outside of the People's Court looks like!! Judge Milian looks good in that robe and heels too, hehehe!!!
These people are oblivious. I've done automotive repair, mechanical work, and refinishing for decades, and what they were looking at on the Mustang was called 'orange peel,' and is caused by improper prepping, which can leave silicone on a panel, which causes the orange peel. The defendant knew exactly what it was since it's so blatantly obvious, so the company that insured her work may not have covered it, and she'd have ended up eating it.
The second I heard "Painted his luggage rack for FREE!" Iknew he would win, lol!
One of the best cases. The plaintiff was very clever and knew what he was doing. It is crass to say "that is tape" indicating you do not really give a damn. The guy is not arguing "some paints go wrong" he is saying he paid for a service and did not get what he was paying for.
Classic mustang = AWESOME!!!
Newer Mustang = meh...
When I met my husband he had a 66 Mustang. We sold it a few years later and after 30 years we're still heartbroken by that stupid decision.
The 60’s was a great decade for American muscle
I was hoping JM wouldn’t send the plaintiff back to the defendant’s shop. He’d already given them two opportunities to make things right, and at a certain point, anyone would begin to lose faith in the shop’s ability to do the job correctly. I’m glad he won.
Mustang is hands down the best American car 🇺🇸🐎❤️
His voice is soooo soothing. I would've been sleeping in that court room.
The defendant lady appears shady. Apparently she is an owner of an independent shop with a franchise license with one of the national quick auto paint job companies. As such, she is not a representative or spokesperson for the national chain. Which is probably the reason why the name of the shop was never mentioned during this court hearing.
I had a 93' 5.0 and he is 100% correct! Those bumpers were a nightmare to maintain! Rubberized paint and NO DUST that no one but one got right! Great car and right on pops! 🐎 The defendant is very untrustworthy!
Once she said is the car outside I already knew how it was gonna go 😂
Love my 2012 Mustang GT!! I would also be a bit upset about messing up my car. Especially paying $2,600. He should of got all his $$$ back not $1,349!!
JM doesn’t take any shit.
Plaintiff reminds me of my grandfather ❤
If the big chain company he went to was Maaco then I’m not surprised. I brought my car there to have some body work done and they told me that it would take approximately two weeks to do the work. I was fine with that but when it hit the end of week four… I started to get a little ticked off. After that I called them three times a day figuring the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I got my car after three days of that.
New drinking game, every time pops says car take a drink 🤣
This is the first time I ever seen Judge 👩⚖️ Marilyn have recess get off the stand n go see the work !!! As long as I been waiting her I never said the legends of Judges do this Judges Ross, Mable, Mathis, Joe Brown, etc … 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️🤟🏾🤟🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Made me so glad judge went out to see the car...without touching it by hand...she wouldn't have known in pictures...what the man meant!!
The defendant knows nothing about this topic. I wonder how many times they've been sued.
i’m so dead at the judge all in her face outside casually 😭😂
Did Harvey just call someone a "low-life" for not having a car??? He must have never lived in NYC. Even in LA I know folks who are well off and ride scooters or motorcycles and take Ubers ...WTF...judge much, Harvey?
He was joking, calm down
I love Harvey on here. Some of the crap he comes out with on some of his other shows is questionable but here he’s great
Anyone else get super excited when she said, let's reassemble outside.
As a body guy I would be ashamed to let that car leave my shop as it was.
I loved pops. He was so patient and kind. He was very honest and hey come on he owns a mustang as I do. Almost same color. I would ever take it to a popular chain paint store. However the defendant was so ignorant of how a car is painted. Why was she sent to represent the company. Come on “that’s just yellow tape” what paint shop uses YELLOW tape? She was a liar. I’m so happy Judge Marilyn said go somewhere else. That lady embarrassed herself as well as the company she represented. Good case. God bless Judge Marilyn for going outside with pops Kudos to you Judge!
I love that he drove the car to court. It was the best evidence he could have
Shame on that lady for trying to excuse that work. Terrible
My first car, at 16, was a 1969 Mustang. I loved that car.
She should have had an employee with her. Im sure whe wasn't the one actually painting the car
Even if she's not physically doing the paint jobs, she's responsible for making sure those who are do it well. Leadership isn't just the title
I'm all over this case, 25 years in that business, five of them as a painter. I know a bad paint job when I see one. I can say for sure that it's virtually impossible to eliminate all dust when painting a car. That being said, it's bad prep work, definitely no cleanup before delivery, and the peeling paint definitely could've been caused by him bumping into something; those old Mustang bumper covers are flexible, so even a light bump could've flexed it enough to make a crack in the new paint, and that's all it takes. The Defendant had the opportunity to fix the problem, all she had to do was nod her head and take the first verdict....
The plaintiff did well to prove his case so I'm glad he got most of his money back (should be all but ok). The defendant was shady as fuck and I certainly go to her to fix dust much less a car
I’m not letting this lady or her shop NEAR my car
This gentleman is very Right and very accurate ,I appreciate his kindness,this woman is very wrong.,she did not want to accept her MISTAKES.IAGREE with th Judge ,he cannot trust her.
I don't agree with partial refunds in situations like this. Should have given him a full refund, so he could have someone else else do the proper full job. The defendant shouldn't be rewarded for doing a poor job. A poor is no better than no job a lot of the times. Also, that defendant isn't a trustworthy person, everything is just brushed away or not their fault.
"Feels like any other car I've ... felt up." (7:16) REALLY? She didn't say that!
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Young lady, don't question people character.. it leaves room for people to question yours.
I'm so glad this plantiff won his case and that she changed her mind, towards the end. That woman was so indignant and completely un- professional!