The best plane for a TIGHT BUDGET!? Piper Archer II Walkaround & Flight
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- Michael takes over the reins and does a walkaround and flight in the Piper Archer II. The Archer is a common step up from the Cherokee basic trainer and many pilots have time in the no-nonsense, simple Archer. Is the Archer the perfect GA airplane? With it's fixed pitch and fixed gear, it's a true 4-place touring aeroplane.
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0:00 Intro
1:05 Exterior
4:22 Interior
6:55 Take-off
7:28 Flying
9:31 Landing
10:05 Outro
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Even though I do prefer the 172 (and high wings in general) in some ways, I really love the Archer II. Lots of space, useful load and relatively fast. But my favorite feature that really sets it apart from the 172 in my opinion is the rudder trim! During long cross-countries you can basically fly it hands and feet off even without an autopilot.
Enjoyed the video!
I agree! Rudder trim makes a big difference on long cross country. Less tiring for sure ^Michael
Do the older cherokees also have rudder trim?
I learned to fly in Warriors and Archers and had a buddy that was checked out in the Saratoga.
One day he let me handle the takeoff and I was shocked at the right rudder forces required after rotation.
I guess he saw that maybe I was grimacing a little and asked me if I wanted some rudder trim to which I immediately replied yes and he took care of that for me.
@@chrisnedbalek2866yes bud
I bought my 1979 Archer II in 1985. I still have it today. Still less than 1500 hours TT. KNS80, KX170B, century IIIB autopilot IFR. Even the ADF still works. The original paint had to be replaced in 2006 because of a sand storm here in Arizona. But, almost everything is still original. I'd love to update the avionics, but.... the expense is beyond ridiculous. I don't have many more flying years left. It will make someone a very nice airplane..... Someday....
Sounds beautiful! I bet it’s like a blast from the past with all the original avionics. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
I love the Archer II and would love to have it to purchase
There are plenty around still Bernard. Just keep a lookout! ^MP
From personal experience I can say that it is a fantastic plane.
Really fantastic video!
I love my Archer. Beautiful to fly and easy to land. 💙
Agreed! They’re lovely
Debating purchasing one... I was looking at it or finishing my RV-14 build. Big difference between the two
Amazing video as always guys and great production value! Great on Ash for snagging a gig flying regionals and will be missed, but great content regardless from Michael!
Looking forward to the next video!
Thanks Claude! ^Michael
Love the Archer II.
I once flew in it and is flies so good and stable.
Keep on making this great video's!
They are fun to watch and educational.
Thank you! :)
Good video.
The Archer is my favorite GA airplane, followed closely by the Arrow.
The stabilator + anti-servo tab was a genius idea. Aerodynamic forces from the tab acting on the stabilator actively "fly" the stabilator, actually commanding the airplane to its trimmed airspeed. As a result it nails the airspeed hands-off, and requires a substantial force on the yoke to fly above - or below - trimmed airspeed. You won't get caught off guard at the wrong speed with those airplanes.
Thanks! Yes brilliant design. We’ve got an Arrow IV video coming out shortly. Also a T Tail Lance
VH-MAU is the aircraft that renews my PPL at Murray Bridge. Bravo
Love the Archer II!
Who doesn’t, honestly? 😉
Very nice production. And a good looking airplane! Our flying club in Eastern Pennsylvania owns three Archers. And I learned to fly in an Archer II.
Thank you! Great to hear. They’re excellent planes :)
Outstanding review! I'm training in a modern 100i which is basically the same plane and for what it is, it's pretty impressive! Thank you for the video!
Awesome! I saw one of those at Oshkosh. Perfect plane to learn in! Thanks for watching and commenting!
What a nice video. I love the Archer!
Thanks Dowglas! She’s a great plane
Love my Archer, you're right
They’re cool hey? ^Mp
Agree!
Lovely aeroplane.
Yeh it’s a ripper :)
Great video as usual!
Thanks brother!
I like your analysis of the marginal gas cost ($200 more) of getting there (on a 300 nm leg) 20 minutes earlier. You also could have mentioned the long run greater cost of overhauling a 6 cyl versus a 4 cylinder. Good job Mate!
Thanks for the kind words! Yes good point, the overhaul costs are much kinder. Not to mention the fixed pitch propeller!
Yes, but if you fly longer the same distance - you have to overhaul an engine sooner.
Nice airplane. Yes, it is easy to fly and smooth. Will be an airplane that I will consider.
Good choice!
Great video, keep them coming. What about the Mooney M20J? Would be great to see a video on that! Thanks!
Hmmm I think we’ve got access to a Mooney! Let me see what we can do!
I really like the archer2. I just finished my PPL and am working for instrument rating. The school only has 2 instrument equipped aircraft, so I decided to get checked out in the archer. I have previous military hours in various aircraft. Compared to the Cessna 172, The archer is way more stable because of the stabilator. It doesn’t wallow on final like the Cessna, but is an KIAS vs MPH aircraft. Energy management is more critical to see same performance as the Cessna. Ventilation and access is not as good as the Cessna, but I’ll take the performance and stability any day.
Congrats on the PPL! The archer would be a perfect plane for getting your instrument in. They’re so stable as you know
Agree! The Piper Archer is the best GA single engine, other then a TBM or PC-12.
And 10x less cost! ^MP
Love to fly the PA 28 181!
Me too!!
I was flying into Queenstown airport NZ and my wife started feeling ill, turns out she was pregnant with our beautiful daughter. So I’ve always had a soft spot for the 180 Archer, (ZK-EIV) your video brought back lots of good memories.
What a great memory Howard! You’ll never forget that moment. ^Michael
If I ever get a low wing, it will have two doors.
Thanks for the video!
You bet!
Top video again! I almost agree with you, but i reckon id go a Cherokee 180 just for that Hershey bar wing
Same, plus the Hershey bar wing allows for slightly higher cruise speeds below 9500, which is where most of these Archer II's and Cherokee 180's are gonna fly unless if you have to cross over mountainous terrain, where the speed advantage crosses over to the semi-tapered wing over 10000'.
Having flown a bunch of models with both wings, I reckon Hershey is my fav now too ^Michael
Why do you guys like the Hershey wing better?
@@chrisnedbalek2866 Short landings. The tapered wing models float. The hershey bar wings allow a steep descent into a short strip with power off and full flaps.
@@blackprince291 thank you!
I flew one of these on wednesday 29th june 2022 for my trial/demo flight, its a brilliant aircraft, the flight was very turbulent, but me and the archer handled it really well, the pilot took off, handed me the controls, and i flew it until it was time to land, then he took over, got into the circuit, did a go-around because of traffic, then did another pattern and landed
It was an awesome experience, its a very intuitive aircraft, wanna climb? push the throttle up full, wanna descend? pull the throttle down to idle, wanna cruise level? put the throttle about half way up, really easy
The controls are very responsive, but not scary responsive, there not so light you could breath on the controls and it flips you over, but there not so heavy that your forcing the yoke round either to get it to do something
One thing i would like to see is a door on the port side, but hey ho? you get what your given
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed your Demo flight. Archers are a perfect aircraft to learn in and fly privately. Roomy, comfortable and they perform really well. Also super easy to land nicely!
@@DeadstickAdventures me too, i got my class 2 medical, paid my membership for the flying club, and booked my first official flying lesson in 4 days time
They got warriors, and someone there said its slightly easier to learn in a warrior than it is an archer, he said the landing config is slightly different between the two for that airfield 🤷♂️
Great video though i prefer the 172, easier to get in and out of, with 2 doors gravity fed fuel and i prefer the electric flap on the panel rather than the car handbrake style flap lever. Having to reach up on top of the wing to do a fuel check is 1 downside though. Both great planes nonetheless. Thanks
Thanks Spiro!
I like them over the Cessna but I don't like just the 1 door.
Yeah I agree Roger, score a point for Cessna there, the 2 doors make in-out easier ^Michael
Nice video, thanks. If we have to upgrade the instrument like G650 Xi how much would cost us?
I’d budget around $80k
I am an instrument-rated private pilot from the United States. All of my time was in Cessna 172s. I can not wait to fly a Piper Archer/Warrior/Cherokee.
They’re great 👍🏻
Opinions on learning on a Cessna vs a piper archer?
Great job Michael, and great production quality. Very cool that Ash scored a job flying regionals.
I agree an Archer is a great lower cost GA aircraft, decent speed, simple operation, good fuel economy and robust, but...When compared to the PA-28-235 yes, you do use somewhat more fuel for the same given flight however 4 fat bastards/bitches won't be going far in an Archer where the 235 will take them all, their beer, and full 84 gal tanks.
Thanks mate, appreciate the support! Yeh we’re all stoked for him. Haha you’re right, depends on the size of your family/friends as to 235/archer!! Lol ^Michael
I have a 65 172 it has just over 900lbs of useful load and cruises at 125mph range is limited with 38 gallons of fuel.
Sounds like a great aircraft! I love the older 172s. Thanks for watching our videos :)
My favorite airplane! Back in the day I flew N47394 from Aretz Flying Service. Yours even has the same color scheme: white with red and gold!
They’re a great looking plane!
Now time to compare Warrior versus Archer
Now there’s an idea! Thanks Scotty ^Michael
Your thoughts on a Mooney?
Love them
What is your field elevation and Pressure / density altitude. 700 Feet per minute at sea level?
Airfield elevation is 120’. Was probably around 20 degrees C
There isn't much that offers a better value than the pa-28-180,181!
Agreed!
Hello my friend
Do you have an autopilot on board ?
This aircraft isn't fitted with an AP - yet... :(
How about landing/braking distances? I heard that braking was not so strong
Braking is as good as any other PA28. I’ve noticed no issues.
You could get like 14-15 corvettes with 7000 horsepower for the price of some single engine airplanes.
I know what I’d prefer 😎
And you still wouldn't be flying.
But I did hit an eagle in Canada and that probably would've ripped that landing gear off ahah. 6ft wing span
Awh poor Galah, That makes me sad as an American lmfao.. Beautiful birds. Australia is amazing. My 27 y/o cockatiel died on new years and I him dearly lol
Aww that’s sad to hear! Yep it sucks hitting birds but unfortunately all part of it 😬
@@DeadstickAdventures Definitely with all the birds you guys have! Thanks for the reply. Take care brotha.
Seems like the older Pipers are better than the new Pipers
Better value for money I’d say!
I had a 235. I planned for 14 gallons an hour, not 17. I think 17 is high.
17gph power setting kept it to around 135 TAS. You could get it lower but it lost a lot of speed!
The fuel pump was off on final...
Well picked! I’m not perfect :) ^Michael
Take off the nose gear pants to make it look better
Or add the main wheel pants for MOAR KNOTS
NOTTS R GUD!!
the best plane for a tight budget is NO plane at all
that is probably true.. but no fun!
@@DeadstickAdventures join a flight club
Why would anyone want to purchase an airplane on a tight budget?
Why not? 🤷♂️
Because they are there annnd you only live once…
If the budget is tight don’t buy an airplane!
Agreed!
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