Yes, the "case review" portion of this video was shorter than usual, but that's only because I took up a bunch of time talking about testing. Future case reviews using this standardized hardware will be much more thorough. Think of this as a trial run, what did you think?
Recently completed my first build and used the NR400. I liked not only the price (with glass, grommets, PSU shroud) but the mesh front, rather open rear of the case and the top ventilation. During the build, I installed two aftermarket intake fans at the front and moved the provided front fan as a top exhaust. Ran CPU all day today for 8 hrs of work from home and now 5 hours of gaming. Checked the CPU a few times today and CPU hovered around 45-ish with only windows running and around 67 when gaming (no OC). Nice experience on the build and relatively easy. Cable management was good thinking ahead. Removed the hard drive storage as well to store extra cables. If i can build in this easily with one functional hand, the rest of you should do fine.
Make sure you document your ambient room temperature when doing these reviews, and monitor it before each test to make sure it's the same for each test. That or report delta T temps (observed - ambient). Also would be good to have an open air test bench number to compare to, so we can see the impact of a case versus ideal/open air. Looking forward to more of these, Thanks Brian!
I recently got this case for my build and I don't regret a bit. The airflow is actually pretty good and the 5.25' drive bay, at least for me, is the cherry at the top as I had a bunch of old CD-ROMs from my 486 days which I intend to convert to ISO so it's pretty handy. Also it looks really nice in my desk. It's a beautiful peace by Cooler Master. BTW, my build is a Ryzen 5 1600 AF which I got like two weeks before AMD released the 3100 and 3300X and I really love it. I also replaced the stock cooler with a Hyper T4 I had laying around but I spray painted the heat spreader part black just to match the whole thing and it looks really neat.
Suggest you standardize the CPU VCore, as well... Some motherboards will run higher/lower voltages, which will, of course, change temps. Suggest you manually set cpu speed and volts to eliminate those variables.
Good point, though some tuning may be required with something like HWINFO for Vcore as different boards also have different levels of load line calibration/Vdroop. Picking similar boards from the same manufacturer with the same number and type of power phases would be ideal, though as long as all Micro builds use the same configuration, and all mini builds use the same configuration, and all atx builds use the same configuration, that's all that really matters, because comparing an ATX to a mini-itx case really isn't all that useful anyways.
Very silly for cooler master to make the HD case removable in this case but on the NR600 to only have 1 of the two cage sides removable. Once side can be removed the other is riveted into place. I bought a NR600 and then returned it and went with a corsair 220T instead for my ATX build.
Hey bro, would you be able to tell me how well 2x 140mm fans go in the front of this case? It fits well? It is well positioned? Centered maybe? I know 3x 120mm is fine but wasn't able to find any setup using 140mm yet, would love to have an idea before spending.
Can you please run this standard hardware test on the Inwin 101? My hunch is that extra side exhaust would steal air from a Wraith Prism cooler causing higher CPU temps, can you confirm or deny? Great vid btw!
Has anyone tried fitting a 360mm radiator in the front? Official spec sheet shows only 240-280 rad is supported in the front even though 3x 120mm fans are supported.
Why not use a mini ITX board with a slim CPU cooler (like a Cryorig C7) across all cases? Could run the same BIOS and settings across all form factor cases that way.
The issue there is that the included fans are part of the price. So it factors into the value. Perhaps a "stock" and "max airflow" config would be interesting, where stock is what it comes with and "max airflow" is a standard set of good fans (Noctua?).
It's a good selection you've got because if someone is going all out on a system they would surely not 'nickle and dime' on a case. Most review cases are for 'normal' people and if spending $200+ on a case wouldn't you be considering water cooling- which then changes all the thermals etc. Glad I don't have to do what you have to do with trying to figure out how to maximise the efficiency of a case! That said on that case could you put 2 radiators on intake and blow it all out the back?
Ended up giving that workstation to someone. Got a Optiplex 960 too. What do you think a e6600, 160gb HDD, nvs 290, and 1.5gb of ram with no side panel/or front bezel be worth?
G'day Brian, Loved the video, I do like this case from Cooler Master & it has the option of a 5.25 bay or full front vent, You mentioned looking like an NZXT H500 (ATX) apparently NZXT is dropping the H400 (MATX) line for the update as MATX isn't very popular anymore, also looks like there are no AMD X570M boards, I wonder if B550M will exist
I agree with the standardization methodology, but there is one variance you might consider. Most PC builders will choose not to use a mini card in ATX cases or even Micro-ATX cases. The short card will artificially enhance CPU cooling in a lot of cases, you might wish to select a more normal-sized graphics card for the larger cases. Something could be amiss regarding that Wraith cooler, but remember, the 1770X ships without a cooler. AMD must have known that theirs would be inadequate.
Hi, can you give some advise, please? I a hobbyist photographer and I need a Desktop to be able to run Photoshop/Lightroom defiantly can you give me recommendations?
They definitely "borrowed" the case design from NZXT. I think you have a good standardized testing method for cases. I would like to see the cable management behind the motherboard tray of the finished builds. I enjoy watching your videos.
Some ATX cases are still cramp to get the motherboard in, but would be simple to fit an ITX motherboard in. So using the appropriate motherboard each case will address clearances for cabling and issues that would arise in each review.
I wish the dnf had been investigated...at first glance it appears you Must have a cpu cooler that blows in to the back exhaust fan. god dam the complete lack of curiosity .
Should’ve seen the look on my face when i seen you use 2 of the 3 motherboards i own on your table... 1: Tuf gaming b450 (currently used) 2: Msi b450i (currently broken :(...)
So,this is how sponsored builds work now? "I had to replace this faulty AMD 4x 6mm heatpipe cooler for another 4x 6mm heatpipe cooler from CoolerMa$ter.... :/ No Overclocking? Yet The Wraith Prism failed? Oh,ok, send it off to GamersNexus,for more testing... :) How much did CoolerMaster pay you?
Yes, the "case review" portion of this video was shorter than usual, but that's only because I took up a bunch of time talking about testing. Future case reviews using this standardized hardware will be much more thorough. Think of this as a trial run, what did you think?
BPS Customs Nice work Brian
From the ads ive seen online ypu can fit a 360mm radiator in there if you remove the drive bay.
I really like that litte Zotac card. They nailed their smaller PCB designs.
Dawid it’s you!
Recently completed my first build and used the NR400. I liked not only the price (with glass, grommets, PSU shroud) but the mesh front, rather open rear of the case and the top ventilation. During the build, I installed two aftermarket intake fans at the front and moved the provided front fan as a top exhaust. Ran CPU all day today for 8 hrs of work from home and now 5 hours of gaming. Checked the CPU a few times today and CPU hovered around 45-ish with only windows running and around 67 when gaming (no OC). Nice experience on the build and relatively easy. Cable management was good thinking ahead. Removed the hard drive storage as well to store extra cables. If i can build in this easily with one functional hand, the rest of you should do fine.
Make sure you document your ambient room temperature when doing these reviews, and monitor it before each test to make sure it's the same for each test. That or report delta T temps (observed - ambient). Also would be good to have an open air test bench number to compare to, so we can see the impact of a case versus ideal/open air. Looking forward to more of these, Thanks Brian!
I recently got this case for my build and I don't regret a bit. The airflow is actually pretty good and the 5.25' drive bay, at least for me, is the cherry at the top as I had a bunch of old CD-ROMs from my 486 days which I intend to convert to ISO so it's pretty handy. Also it looks really nice in my desk. It's a beautiful peace by Cooler Master. BTW, my build is a Ryzen 5 1600 AF which I got like two weeks before AMD released the 3100 and 3300X and I really love it. I also replaced the stock cooler with a Hyper T4 I had laying around but I spray painted the heat spreader part black just to match the whole thing and it looks really neat.
lovin that 5.25" bay
I watched this review a month ago and built a PC for my friend with it. Thanks for the video, as it helped me pick more choices available!
Suggest you standardize the CPU VCore, as well...
Some motherboards will run higher/lower voltages, which will, of course, change temps.
Suggest you manually set cpu speed and volts to eliminate those variables.
I suspect this to possibly be the issue with the shutdowns... Strange for sure
Good point, though some tuning may be required with something like HWINFO for Vcore as different boards also have different levels of load line calibration/Vdroop. Picking similar boards from the same manufacturer with the same number and type of power phases would be ideal, though as long as all Micro builds use the same configuration, and all mini builds use the same configuration, and all atx builds use the same configuration, that's all that really matters, because comparing an ATX to a mini-itx case really isn't all that useful anyways.
Should the baseline test for the hardware be done on an open air test bench?
Very silly for cooler master to make the HD case removable in this case but on the NR600 to only have 1 of the two cage sides removable. Once side can be removed the other is riveted into place. I bought a NR600 and then returned it and went with a corsair 220T instead for my ATX build.
Hey bro, would you be able to tell me how well 2x 140mm fans go in the front of this case? It fits well? It is well positioned? Centered maybe? I know 3x 120mm is fine but wasn't able to find any setup using 140mm yet, would love to have an idea before spending.
Can you please run this standard hardware test on the Inwin 101? My hunch is that extra side exhaust would steal air from a Wraith Prism cooler causing higher CPU temps, can you confirm or deny? Great vid btw!
What do you think of the dust filtering capabilities of the case? :)
I have the NR600, that hard drive cage in the larger case is not moveable. You would think the smaller one would have that issue not the larger one?
Nice review. Could possibly add a fan 3pack to the test. Then test with stock fan setup and then with 3pack at a set rpm.
And it comes with a CD/DVD drive.
I still watch my old DVD. And some people do listen to CD's.
So does the MSI 1070 ti fit in the case ?
Hello, why didnt you connect the fans to the motherboard? It would be more quiet. Or wasnt it possible? Nice review
I see you have one RAM kit for three motherboards. So you usually check the QVL when choosing motherboard?
Has anyone tried fitting a 360mm radiator in the front? Official spec sheet shows only 240-280 rad is supported in the front even though 3x 120mm fans are supported.
Why not use a mini ITX board with a slim CPU cooler (like a Cryorig C7) across all cases? Could run the same BIOS and settings across all form factor cases that way.
You need to have a standardized fan configuration because not all cases come with fans. Perhaps have the case filled out with the max number of fans
Agreed. I'd like to see these tests run again with decent fans as well
The issue there is that the included fans are part of the price. So it factors into the value. Perhaps a "stock" and "max airflow" config would be interesting, where stock is what it comes with and "max airflow" is a standard set of good fans (Noctua?).
can the ODD be remove? because CM malaysia stocks does not have the without ODD version.
i think it would be better to have three non-stock fans(two intake,one exaust) installed in each case...it would be more fair that way
Good full review!! Thanks!!!
Can you remove that optical drive?
Yes, Optical drive bay can be removed, makes room or a small radiator up top or second top exhaust fan.
It's a good selection you've got because if someone is going all out on a system they would surely not 'nickle and dime' on a case. Most review cases are for 'normal' people and if spending $200+ on a case wouldn't you be considering water cooling- which then changes all the thermals etc. Glad I don't have to do what you have to do with trying to figure out how to maximise the efficiency of a case! That said on that case could you put 2 radiators on intake and blow it all out the back?
Do you keep all the cases you receive?
Ended up giving that workstation to someone. Got a Optiplex 960 too. What do you think a e6600, 160gb HDD, nvs 290, and 1.5gb of ram with no side panel/or front bezel be worth?
G'day Brian,
Loved the video, I do like this case from Cooler Master & it has the option of a 5.25 bay or full front vent,
You mentioned looking like an NZXT H500 (ATX) apparently NZXT is dropping the H400 (MATX) line for the update as MATX isn't very popular anymore,
also looks like there are no AMD X570M boards, I wonder if B550M will exist
One year later and there is a good amount of B550m to choose from.
@@untoldstory164 I will be interested to see how the M-ATX VRMs Compare to ATX, the MSI B550M-Mortar looks good 😁
Is this a case for gaming?
I WAS LITTERALLY LOOKING AT THIS CASE 5 MIN AGO. Wow what a coincidence
Google working on overtime just for you, do you feel special?😀
@@LeoF0F very
I agree with the standardization methodology, but there is one variance you might consider. Most PC builders will choose not to use a mini card in ATX cases or even Micro-ATX cases. The short card will artificially enhance CPU cooling in a lot of cases, you might wish to select a more normal-sized graphics card for the larger cases.
Something could be amiss regarding that Wraith cooler, but remember, the 1770X ships without a cooler. AMD must have known that theirs would be inadequate.
1700X, that is.
I've managed to fit a 360mm radiator in the front of mine, it fits with about 2mm to spare :o
Nr400 or inwin 103 or 303? Tnx
That scratch on the side 😮
Not sure how you'd ever even think the case would be the blame for overheating given how high airflow it is with mesh front, top, and back.
Hi, can you give some advise, please? I a hobbyist photographer and I need a Desktop to be able to run Photoshop/Lightroom defiantly can you give me recommendations?
In my opinion, after many years, the Silverstone TJ08-E and KL06 are still the best mATX cases available.
No white or silver?
Wow a retro 5.25 drive bay. Old school!
They definitely "borrowed" the case design from NZXT. I think you have a good standardized testing method for cases. I would like to see the cable management behind the motherboard tray of the finished builds. I enjoy watching your videos.
Why not just use mini-ITX for all tests? Just to eliminate any possible variables
Some ATX cases are still cramp to get the motherboard in, but would be simple to fit an ITX motherboard in. So using the appropriate motherboard each case will address clearances for cabling and issues that would arise in each review.
Quite similar to the CM s400 inside. about 12 usd difference in price. where I come from.
Is that a slot for CD drive I see in that case? Is this 1999?
There is also a version without one for the same price.
I wish the dnf had been investigated...at first glance it appears you Must have a cpu cooler that blows in to the back exhaust fan. god dam the complete lack of curiosity .
I think it sucks that your new 1700x won't work in the new X570 boards
Uhm it will lol. The new chips wont work in the a320 and some b350 chipsets but what ur saying is bullshit
I thought you said the psu had ketchup and mustard cables but there showing as all black
Should’ve seen the look on my face when i seen you use 2 of the 3 motherboards i own on your table...
1: Tuf gaming b450 (currently used)
2: Msi b450i (currently broken :(...)
Really! How could this case be the reason for your system to shut down? That's weird you would think that could possibly be the reason
I wish i could get this case without the ODD
Can u take out odd?
maybe make sure the 1700x is flat
So,this is how sponsored builds work now? "I had to replace this faulty AMD 4x 6mm heatpipe cooler for another 4x 6mm heatpipe cooler from
CoolerMa$ter.... :/ No Overclocking? Yet The Wraith Prism failed? Oh,ok, send it off to GamersNexus,for more testing... :) How much did CoolerMaster pay you?
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Bet you won't pin this._.