Inside the Eric Stoltz Version of Back to the Future

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  • Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
  • Taking a look at the original version of Back to the Future starring Eric Stoltz.
    0:00 Intro
    0:22 Origins
    1:20 A Time Travelling Refrigerator
    3:46 Doc Brown's Pet Monkey
    4:12 Marty Erases Rock and Roll From History
    4:44 A Retro-Futuristic Present
    6:02 George McFly Becomes a Boxer
    6:58 Casting Marty McFly
    8:14 Eric Stoltz
    8:56 Stoltz's Method Acting
    10:22 Michael J. Fox Replaces Stoltz
    10:57 Life Imitates Art
    11:19 Marty's Life Preserver
    11:41 Jennifer is Recast
    12:28 Jeff Goldblum as Doc Brown
    13:18 An Imperfect Production Leads to a Perfect Movie
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  • @brandonspain12345
    @brandonspain12345 5 місяців тому +379

    The Eric Stoltz version is an INCREDIBLE example of when a film has the potential, but just needs the right ingredients.

    • @wwerules000
      @wwerules000 5 місяців тому +23

      The guy was way to into it, sounds like he should of been fired sooner, pushing your co star to hard and hurting them, is not good.

    • @roderick8167
      @roderick8167 5 місяців тому +25

      ​@@wwerules000im surprised the guy that played Biff was as nice as he was because the way Eric Stoltz nearly broke his collar bone that enough to have a fight break out

    • @stevereynolds5684
      @stevereynolds5684 4 місяці тому +13

      Later in that same interview he says he was planning to get some payback on Stolz, but never got the chance as he was fired before they filmed the scene where Biff rips him out of the car.

    • @phillips2683
      @phillips2683 4 місяці тому +7

      Glad they hired Michael J. Fox

    • @petefilipovits9262
      @petefilipovits9262 3 місяці тому +1

      @@stevereynolds5684 That was an awesome interview! I haven't been able to find it again. Actually hysterical listening to Tom talk about it.

  • @bensneb360
    @bensneb360 5 місяців тому +439

    Wow, Eric Stoltz captures the 80s punk rocker feel better, Michael J. Fox is perfect in the role and we lucked out by getting the the movie we got

    • @wickedhouston5538
      @wickedhouston5538 4 місяці тому +8

      Eric is a bad actor

    • @stevenorellano2039
      @stevenorellano2039 4 місяці тому +17

      Still, I wouldve loved to see Eric's punk rock version of Marty McFly.

    • @TheNameOfJesus
      @TheNameOfJesus 4 місяці тому +5

      BTTF was perfect, but I liked several of the alternate ideas from 4:44 to 6:18 in this video.

    • @wifegrant
      @wifegrant 4 місяці тому +1

      Jon Cryer could have been a good Marty McFly imo.

    • @joejohn3709
      @joejohn3709 4 місяці тому +1

      No MJF was the right choice…

  • @TheAlphaLegionnaire
    @TheAlphaLegionnaire 5 місяців тому +206

    It’s an absolute miracle that Back to Future somehow managed to capture lightning in a bottle considering all the back and forth they had during production

    • @MeisterKleisterHeisstEr
      @MeisterKleisterHeisstEr 5 місяців тому +14

      Well, thanks to time travel they knew exactly when and where lighting would strike!

    • @rjk537
      @rjk537 5 місяців тому +1

      Lame ​@@MeisterKleisterHeisstEr

    • @ishou99
      @ishou99 4 місяці тому +4

      if you read enough back stories, you can pretty much say the same about almost every movie ever made, and especially the "successes"...

    • @strangelandian
      @strangelandian 4 місяці тому +2

      Reminds me of all the production hell Toy Story 2 went through

    • @housesports000
      @housesports000 4 місяці тому

      I guess it was just a real long storm for them

  • @roberttreacy8271
    @roberttreacy8271 5 місяців тому +121

    It’s hard to picture a Back to the Future without Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd.

  • @freddyjosereginomontalvo4667
    @freddyjosereginomontalvo4667 5 місяців тому +216

    Instead of a reboot or remake I would love to see that darker and serious version of Back To The Future with Stolz. It sounds interesting, but yeah will never be as good as the original.

    • @Dick_Valparaiso
      @Dick_Valparaiso 5 місяців тому +11

      An alternate universe Back To The Future🤔
      Alterante universes have basically become a genre now. However, in the 1980's this would've been a revolutionary plot device. Just as long as the making of the alternate universe
      movies didn't negatively effect the originals by splitting up writers, reducing budgets, and a slew of many other things that could damage the original trilogy I'd have been on board.

    • @Lucretia9000
      @Lucretia9000 4 місяці тому +11

      It might be better. I'd still like to see a version with Stoltz.

  • @ThePatman1980
    @ThePatman1980 4 місяці тому +51

    It's weird how Eric is considered a dramatic actor but he was absolutely hilarious as Lance in Pulp Fiction. No trial, no jury, straight to execution.

    • @mrt8242
      @mrt8242 Місяць тому +2

      Exactly. As the funny dope dealer he was pretty good in his role.

    • @0okamino
      @0okamino Місяць тому

      No, you don’t gotta stab her three times!

  • @Pewskeepski
    @Pewskeepski 5 місяців тому +173

    I think Eric Stoltz's vision for Marty as a tragic character would've made an interesting premise for the sequel. The tone/genre would've been different, but it's a compelling thought to think of a boy who has knowingly missed out on so much of parents/siblings life.

    • @davidjames579
      @davidjames579 5 місяців тому +18

      Without losing BTTF as we have it, I'd love that version to exist. I know Zemeckis and Gale won't allow a remake but I honestly think a serious version could be worthwhile making.

    • @EverettBurger
      @EverettBurger 5 місяців тому +9

      Marty should be like Batman. Every few years a director gets to create a movie based upon their own interpretation of the character

    • @blunteastwood
      @blunteastwood 5 місяців тому +1

      @@EverettBurger And they get darker and grittier with each version lol

    • @AltimaNEO
      @AltimaNEO 5 місяців тому +8

      Yeah the seriousness of Stoltz would be better suited for a post 2000s developed movie. The 80s just had to much camp.

    • @mrgreatbigmoose
      @mrgreatbigmoose 5 місяців тому +4

      @Pewskeepsi, it couldn't have happened for the second movie. Marty in this narrative is a reactive character, and (other than the letter, scheme to reunite his parents, and altering the destination by 10 minutes) doesn't often plan ahead.
      In fact, the sequel runs with that idea making him extremely impulsive any time someone calls him out.
      Marty wouldn't have enough time to stop and consider his life and what he missed out on since he never stops moving to the next situation.
      However I agree, yes it would have made for an interesting sequel.

  • @baronvg
    @baronvg 5 місяців тому +69

    I’ve been saying two things about Eric Stoltz: one, he actually looks like he could be the son of Crispin Glover and/or Leah Thompson and two, his wardrobe looked sooo cool lol

  • @TB-vz8xg
    @TB-vz8xg 5 місяців тому +40

    Back to the Future is the perfect example of changes for the better in film. The Time Machine, the sidekicks, the ending, and the most obvious, Stoltz to Fox. Just imagine a dark and moody Marty, Professor Brown, a monkey, "Space Man from Pluto", and "Nuking the Fridge" being what we got. The Horror.

    • @AndyJay1985
      @AndyJay1985 5 місяців тому +4

      This movie beat Rambo AND Rocky IV as the top grossing film in the US in 1985. The filmmakers made a great choice. 👍

    • @Omegavision79
      @Omegavision79 4 місяці тому

      Jennifer was going to be called Susie

  • @stsolomon618
    @stsolomon618 5 місяців тому +73

    One of the greatest movies of all time. Glad I was able to go to the ride before Universal changed it.

    • @jesustovar2549
      @jesustovar2549 5 місяців тому +5

      My mom told me she went to that ride in Universal too, as well as others like Jaws, Jurassic Park, Terminator, etc... she was lucky to live back then, with all that music and movies, I wish I could go to Universal Parks.

    • @glennac
      @glennac 5 місяців тому +3

      How and when was it changed? I recall it as a simulator ride. We experienced it in the 90’s if I remember correctly.

    • @stsolomon618
      @stsolomon618 5 місяців тому +2

      @@glennac they changed the ride to the simpson ride

    • @stsolomon618
      @stsolomon618 5 місяців тому +3

      @jesustovar2549 I went in the early 2000s, and they had all of that.

    • @craigslaunwhite579
      @craigslaunwhite579 3 місяці тому +1

      I also got to ride that in the Delorian at Universal Florida in 1992. Great ride

  • @robgronotte1
    @robgronotte1 5 місяців тому +20

    Scrapping the futuristic ending also gave them the opportunity to use some of its elements for the sequel where they travel to the future. If the alternate 1985 already had flying cars and similar things, there wouldn't be much left to be futuristic in 2015.

  • @Omar-wq9dz
    @Omar-wq9dz 5 місяців тому +42

    The final version we got for Back To The Future is perfect as is

  • @cinemaarts8795
    @cinemaarts8795 5 місяців тому +35

    Another interesting bit of casting was J.J. Cohen, who ended up playing a member of Biff's gang, was the favorite choice of Gale and Zemeckis for Biff himself. They both really loved his presence but ultimately felt he wasn't physically imposing enough against Eric Stoltz. Gale admitted that if Michael J Fox was cast in the first place, Cohen very well might've ended up playing Biff.

    • @kato64
      @kato64 4 місяці тому +2

      Tom Wilson was perfect as “Biff”. A little bit of kismet that made this movie the classic it is.

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway 5 днів тому

      @@kato64Yup, but Clancy Brown would’ve been a great Biff.

  • @roderick8167
    @roderick8167 5 місяців тому +25

    Back to the Future is truly one of the best examples of everything happens for a reason, we thankfully got Michael J Foxx as Marty Mcfly( no offense Eric Stoltz ) and we got the DeLorian which a refrigerator originally WTF 😂

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  5 місяців тому +7

      💯 we dodged a bullet

    • @roderick8167
      @roderick8167 5 місяців тому +6

      @@Bulletsandblockbusters we dodged a huge shotgun sized bullet lol 🔥💯

  • @sergiocarrillojr.4597
    @sergiocarrillojr.4597 5 місяців тому +24

    Eric Stoltz still being in the film for a second is a good trivia question/answer

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  5 місяців тому +9

      I think when he punches Biff in the diner although I’ve heard this debunked

    • @robgronotte1
      @robgronotte1 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Bulletsandblockbusters Thomas Wilson has said that it's Eric's hand in the shot. Likely Eric's punches were more (painfully) realistic, and thus good for the shot, based on what Wilson says in this video.

    • @Draknfyre
      @Draknfyre 3 місяці тому +3

      @@BulletsandblockbustersIt's also rumored that the DeLorean driving scenes at the beginning at Twin Pines Mall were also from the Stoltz version with him inside the car. But since you can't really see the driver good enough to discern who it is, they kept those shots in and added the inserts with Michael J. Fox inside.

    • @ReanimatorsMutilations
      @ReanimatorsMutilations 2 місяці тому

      Thought it was common knowledge and mentioned it the dvds​@@Bulletsandblockbusters

  • @freddyjosereginomontalvo4667
    @freddyjosereginomontalvo4667 5 місяців тому +21

    Back to the Future trilogy is very majestic 🌍🌟

  • @DiRtYLaWs2007
    @DiRtYLaWs2007 5 місяців тому +35

    I’d love to see some footage of Eric in the role with audio.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  5 місяців тому +6

      Same here

    • @marlonclark-pp9wg
      @marlonclark-pp9wg 5 місяців тому +1

      same

    • @djpegao
      @djpegao 4 місяці тому +4

      The master print is bound to appear one of these days, I'm sure of it

    • @PirataGalactico
      @PirataGalactico 4 місяці тому

      @@djpegao i feel the same, probably for an anniversary. Fingers crossed!

  • @JohnstonJack3318
    @JohnstonJack3318 5 місяців тому +55

    You guys make absolutely incredible videos. The research you guys must have to do to make it so informative and interesting, the editing to make it so snappy and to the point, and the scripting to make it flow so well must take a lot of effort and we really appreciate it! Keep it up!

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  5 місяців тому +6

      Thank you! Really appreciate that.

    • @jackcapellini113
      @jackcapellini113 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Bulletsandblockbusters I thought this video was very good and insightful. Thanks for making it! 👍
      Here are a few other video ideas…
      1. Pixar’s Newt
      2. Godzilla 1994
      3. King Kong 1996
      4. The many changes made to Pixar’s Inside Out
      5. The original version of Beetlejuice

  • @galactica1981
    @galactica1981 5 місяців тому +30

    Wow, I thought I knew everything about Back to the Future, but you had some items in the videos that even I had never heard of before! Thank you!

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  5 місяців тому +6

      Glad you enjoyed!

    • @pepperpeterpiperpickled9805
      @pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 5 місяців тому +5

      Ikr, I was about to skip this because I thought I knew all the BTS stuff for BTTF, but I was so wrong. Im loving this channel

    • @jesustovar2549
      @jesustovar2549 5 місяців тому +5

      Same, there's always something new to learn, makes me love the movies even more than I already did.

  • @lizzkaayako2270
    @lizzkaayako2270 5 місяців тому +36

    I want to see Eric Stoltz's version of Back to the Future so bad. It could never replace the original, but in keeping with the spirit of the film, we could imagine it as an "alternate timeline" in which Marty McFly is a bit different -- a glimpse into the BTTF multiverse, if you will. C'mon Bobs, please get to work on releasing it!
    (For the record, I never thought Brian Wilson would release the legendary lost Beach Boys album "SMiLE," but nearly forty years after shelving it, he did just that. That brings me hope for this.)

    • @KOZMOGRAFX
      @KOZMOGRAFX 4 місяці тому

      Myself, I'd be a bit afraid of experiencing the same disappointment I felt after watching Disney/Pixar's Lightyear, as in, "I wish I hadn't seen that".

  • @ash9280
    @ash9280 5 місяців тому +32

    I don't believe the theory that Eric Stoltz played the character in a way that the director and writer didn't want him to play it. It is pretty obvious if you go through the earlier scripts, that Back to the Future had more of a somber tone Eric was merely playing the role the way according to that creative direction. There is no way that they shot over 90 percent of the movie with an actor that wasn't acting the way that the director and writer that they wanted him to do it. It seems like later on, they made a creative choice to have more of a comedic/light-hearted tone. Considering the opening act of BTTF still has a bit of that depressing tone. This blog post talks about it in detail.

    • @robgronotte1
      @robgronotte1 5 місяців тому +6

      I don't think it was anywhere near 90% filmed. I heard 40% estimated elsewhere.

    • @markyacoubian1911
      @markyacoubian1911 4 місяці тому +2

      Not sure why they changed the tone of the movie; or, tweaked it. I think the Stoltz cut -- if it had come out today -- would hold up very well.
      For moviegoers who didn't grow up on Michael J. Fox, I wonder how they would react.... The Stoltz/Fox debate could be similar to the Jordan/LeBron debate.
      Ironically, myself being a Jordan guy, man, that Stoltz stuff looks really, really, really cool.

    • @CoolGobyFish
      @CoolGobyFish 3 місяці тому

      @@robgronotte1 no. they shot the whole thing with Stoltz. actor playing Biff said that he was already looking for a new job when they asked him to refilm everything

    • @robgronotte1
      @robgronotte1 3 місяці тому

      @@CoolGobyFish it may be thst the scenes with Biff were shot first.

    • @CoolGobyFish
      @CoolGobyFish 3 місяці тому

      @@robgronotte1 Look at the production photos, Stoltz is in almost all key scenes. It's not that crazy. Exocist 4 was also completely re-filmed after poor test screenings

  • @mynameisnotearl4383
    @mynameisnotearl4383 4 місяці тому +5

    crispin glover is usually the main talk of conversation with anything back to the future, nice to see something different for a change

  • @machofreak123
    @machofreak123 5 місяців тому +8

    Back to the future is still great to watch even today.

  • @DonLeStudio
    @DonLeStudio 5 місяців тому +40

    We need to petition for the Eric Stoltz cut! 😂😂😂

    • @marlonclark-pp9wg
      @marlonclark-pp9wg 5 місяців тому +6

      yeah

    • @Draknfyre
      @Draknfyre 3 місяці тому +3

      He only shot for 6 weeks. They fired him before they finished so there isn't a full "cut." More like bits and pieces.

    • @marlonclark-pp9wg
      @marlonclark-pp9wg 3 місяці тому

      @@Draknfyre good enough for me as long as we can see some footage of Stoltz

    • @zyg9
      @zyg9 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Draknfyre a lot can be shot in 6 weeks, and reports vary as to how much he filmed. Some say he shot up to 95% of marty's parts. Regardless, i want to see all the parts eric filmed.
      RELEASE THE STOLTZ CUT!!

    • @Colt8722
      @Colt8722 17 днів тому

      @@zyg9*me too*
      Do it already universal
      You’ll bring in a boatload of $$$
      Come on!

  • @johnnyrico3637
    @johnnyrico3637 4 місяці тому +4

    Failure and set backs are a blessing many times. Lloyd and Fox ended up being part of a perfect movie.

  • @pinebarrenpatriot8289
    @pinebarrenpatriot8289 3 місяці тому +2

    The one change I would of agreed with was George looking at the 1955 newspaper clip of Marty playing Johnny be Good and saying "nah cant be".

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 5 місяців тому +12

    They made a reference to Eric Stoltz playing Marty McFly in TH FLASH, as Barry learns that Michael J. Fox is the lead in FOOTLOOSE and Kevin Bacon is Maverick in TOP GUN

  • @theantone7476
    @theantone7476 5 місяців тому +17

    Really love how The Flash movie incorporated Eric Stoltz as Marty if this version of Back to the Future was made in a different timeline

  • @gzrzr
    @gzrzr 5 місяців тому +11

    Really interesting video man it would be cool to see the Eric Stoltz version as it’s said it was more of a serious and darker time travel movie than the comedy we got, very informative video 👍🏻

  • @maamold
    @maamold 5 місяців тому +7

    I always imagined that as Marty settled into the new future he would start to remember events from that new future.

    • @tigerbread78
      @tigerbread78 4 місяці тому +3

      Yes! There's an IDW comic covering that very premise, it's from around 2015 (no, really) but I always assumed as Marty integrated into it, he'd then have both sets of memories

  • @goldcanyon340.
    @goldcanyon340. 5 місяців тому +7

    Bob Gale is a very underrated producer. I always loved his film commentary from the first BTF dvd box set released around 2002. One thing he I particular he said was that if they happened to travel into that era (pre-2015) Lou’s cafe would not have been an aerobics gym but more like a Starbucks! Check it out.

    • @eijentwun5509
      @eijentwun5509 4 місяці тому +3

      Yes but if I were Bob Gale I would have fought Ten Times harder to keep The Original George McFly (Crispin Glover) in Back to the Future 2 and 3 despite their differences. Wold have been much better sequels for sure.

  • @polishmasterjay
    @polishmasterjay 4 місяці тому +2

    The refrigerator wouldn’t have gone over nearly as well. Funny how it still seems completely believable to me that a DeLorean could travel through time and I’m 44! Idk, seems legit to me! 🤣👏

  • @captainjakemerica4579
    @captainjakemerica4579 5 місяців тому +10

    Yeah dodged the bullet here with this version I feel sorry for those who live in that alternate universe in the flash that had Eric Stoltz in Back to the Future

    • @bluebirdsigma
      @bluebirdsigma 5 місяців тому +1

      Ah, yeah, good ol' Berenstein Universe. Sometimes they have it better, sometimes worse.

    • @Shunn3d
      @Shunn3d 4 місяці тому

      J.J. Abrahms Fringe universe too.

    • @markyacoubian1911
      @markyacoubian1911 4 місяці тому

      The Stoltz version might have better reflected the way I saw the movie as a little kid. Was it a comedy? Action/drama/sci fi? It's been awhile.

    • @captainjakemerica4579
      @captainjakemerica4579 4 місяці тому

      Nah that Stoltz version Leonardo became the classic that's the version we got did not to mention there probably be no Rick and Morty and I don't want to live in that universe

    • @markyacoubian1911
      @markyacoubian1911 4 місяці тому

      The Stoltz stills are great. The "theater" cut of BTTF had BOTH versions of Doc Brown -- mediated Doc aka John Lithgow LITE -- as well as The Human Outtakes Jim From Taxi Highlight Film. Bob/Bob didn't read their own script. Stoltz did.

  • @retromacman620
    @retromacman620 5 місяців тому +9

    Had no idea about some of these original ideas! I really do like the idea that the future ends up like the Jetsons and retro future sci fi. I never liked the whole rock n roll sub plot as much, as it's kind of a thin joke that rock n roll happens becuase of any one song. Chuck Berry just would've wrote something else, etc... anyway love this movie, great video and great topic

  • @mrmister3782
    @mrmister3782 4 місяці тому +4

    Really wanna see all the Eric Stoltz scenes! Not only because I wanna see how he plays Marty, but also how he plays the role with the other actors. Ever since I heard about the story with Eric Stoltz, I noticed more and more things in the movie like actors have slightly different haircuts or makeup in scenes where MJF is not in the picture. When Marty punches Biff in the Cafe it's the most obvious scene which is cleary not Michael J Fox: The lightning is different and Thomas F. Wilson has for some reason less wrinkles. Also the scenes where Marty wears the Anti-Radiation Suit, he looks taller, now I don't know if that is also Eric Stoltz or if that's his stuntman.

    • @markyacoubian1911
      @markyacoubian1911 4 місяці тому +1

      I have noticed some things like that, too. In some scenes, we get a more laid back Doc. Then we get the zany, Jim-From-Taxi version. They spliced two different movies. The Stoltz cut probably holds up very well!

  • @moonlightillari
    @moonlightillari 5 місяців тому +15

    As much as Michael J Fox is definitely the perfect fit for the mass hit appeal of the movie, I think what Eric Stoltz was going for might've been incredible to me. I always viewed the role as he did and he really seemed to sell it, and that's with Back to the Future being one of my top 5 movies 😅

    • @marlonclark-pp9wg
      @marlonclark-pp9wg 5 місяців тому +1

      i agree

    • @djpegao
      @djpegao 4 місяці тому +2

      He had the right approach to Marty's mindset, only he executed it in the worst way possible and alienated his coworkers which led to his recasting. Now that A.I. is all the rage maybe someone could do the Eric Stolz version.

  • @marvelstarwarsfan8410
    @marvelstarwarsfan8410 5 місяців тому +4

    I bought the entire trilogy for Christmas of 2023!
    I’m happy to learn more about the movies!
    I do think it was intresting of the idea of the dramatic and tragic ending.

  • @HighFlyingEYE
    @HighFlyingEYE 5 місяців тому +6

    BTTF has been one of my favourite movies of all time it came out when I was 10yrs old and I must of watched it 100s of times since then, there is no way it would be the cultural iconic phenomenon it is if they went down the original route, great video as always I look forward to new content next year and pride myself as a Y1OG of this channel, all the best mate

  • @themoviecollectorscorner1479
    @themoviecollectorscorner1479 4 місяці тому +3

    Eric Stoltz ended up playing the lead character in THE FLY II (whose name was Martin - and later turned into a human/fly hybrid), so it looks like Eric ended up playing Marty McFly after all.

  • @Scarletbull
    @Scarletbull 5 місяців тому +3

    Still love B2TF! Love it! Love the franchise as well. MJF was gold. Great actor.

  • @jameshowlettii761
    @jameshowlettii761 5 місяців тому +3

    Man, I knew a lot of this but there was actually a lot I _didn't_ know as well.
    The stars *_really_* aligned to give us the movie we know and love today!

  • @leehessey1154
    @leehessey1154 5 місяців тому +5

    My favourite film of all time, but it's a shame about mjf getting parkinsons 😢 he was just a great actor 👍 great video as always BB keep em coming my friend, love from the uk 🇬🇧

  • @brianrussell463
    @brianrussell463 5 місяців тому +10

    8:34 that’s great that Eric Stoltz saw the film as a tragedy. However while in 1955 Marty just wants to get back to the future while fixing it. He doesn’t know that there will be any changes to the future. He might guess that things could be different but for all he actually knows he was there originally. So the tragedy one happens when Marty returns home and actually figures it out and feels that is was bad that he didn’t live that different life. However, if my drunk mother was no longer a drunk and my waste of a space father was now a famous author and bought me the car I really wanted and I still everything else was just about the same, where is the tragedy?

    • @scottpomann5353
      @scottpomann5353 14 днів тому

      I saw in another video, were they explained/theorized that in the original timeline, Marty was the only one in the family who had it together. When he gets back to the future, he sees that his family is unrecognizable, and thanks to his intervention, they are more together than he is. He feels alienated by the change. I don't know if that interpretation was from Stoltz directly, but given everything that he has said about how he interpreted the script, it really makes sense

    • @brianrussell463
      @brianrussell463 13 днів тому

      @@scottpomann5353 yeah but that wouldn’t happen until the end of the movie. So why would he act like it was a tragedy before he knew that anything changed or that anything could be changed by any thing he was doing? The tragedy would happen after meeting his "new" family and learning that they are different, which only happens after meeting his mother and father on the morning of October 26 1985. Not in 1955, when the tragedy of realizing Marty not being from the family that he meets at the end of Back to the Future 1 would only happen at the end of Back to the Future 1 and not at any other time so why act like something is a tragedy before it happens? Sure foreshadow it but don’t make it the crux of the character, especially if the director, producers and writers of the movie as well as the other actors in the movie are telling you that you aren’t doing what they want from you. It makes you a bad scene partner and a bad actor. If you have such an uncompromising point of view you’ll get fired. So the ultimate tragedy for Eric Stolz was that he got fired and his career never really recovered.

  • @themasteryourdaddy.6307
    @themasteryourdaddy.6307 4 місяці тому +3

    They should release this version, why not...?

  • @SumDumGy_formerly_Tim_Walden
    @SumDumGy_formerly_Tim_Walden 3 місяці тому +1

    Back to the Future has always been one of my favorite movies since 1985, but I’d still love to see that Eric Stoltz version out of curiosity.

  • @scorpionwins6378
    @scorpionwins6378 4 місяці тому +1

    This was one of the greatest trilogies of all time. I didn't get to see any of these films in the theater but when the third film was finally released my family and I saw it at the drive in. To this day I still think back to that night as a memorable movie-going experience.

  • @allen11king
    @allen11king 5 місяців тому +8

    The one time Studio interference helped a movie it all depends who the studio head Is and there creative choices

  • @kaibricturner8836
    @kaibricturner8836 4 місяці тому +1

    Thomas Wilson had me dyin when he spoke 😂😂😂😂

  • @Empyre18
    @Empyre18 4 місяці тому +4

    This video is how I really got info about the Eric Stoltz version of BttF. And man, all I can say is: Release the Stoltz Cut.
    I fully admit that it’s probably not as good, but I am really intrigued by a version with Marty portrayed with a serious and tragic pathos. It’s so fascinating that Stoltz and the Two Bobs could look at the same story and come to such different interpretations, and I’d love to see a taste of Stoltz’s point of view.

  • @johnpittsii7524
    @johnpittsii7524 5 місяців тому +5

    Thanks for the amazing video ❤

  • @daniyelmclovin7751
    @daniyelmclovin7751 5 місяців тому +4

    the original sounds like it can work as its own stand alone movie. In fact, if they ever want to reboot the franchise like they have so many others at least they already have a script that differs from the original

    • @eijentwun5509
      @eijentwun5509 4 місяці тому

      The WORST mistake in History will be when someone reboots a Perfect film. Hell to the No....Only Sequels can be possible made...not reboots. None of these actors can be replaced properly ever. Hubris and Pride might try though.

  • @LCR-iy6xq
    @LCR-iy6xq 5 місяців тому +2

    Such a rocky road to perfection, loved this vid ❤
    (also loved the title anecdote at the end 😂)

  • @RealBLAlley
    @RealBLAlley 5 місяців тому +7

    I am grateful Claudia Wells was cast, but disappointed she couldn't continue, especially for family reasons.

    • @jesustovar2549
      @jesustovar2549 5 місяців тому +2

      My mother actually preferred Elisabeth Shue, sure Claudia Wells was a beauty, but Shue was more expressive, I wish she had more screentime and a proper excuse to be in the film, guess Zemeckis and Gale didn't know what to do with her, but yeah, imagine if Claudia Wells was in the 2nd movie.

    • @marlonclark-pp9wg
      @marlonclark-pp9wg 5 місяців тому

      @@jesustovar2549 yeah

  • @teo-dk3yd
    @teo-dk3yd 5 місяців тому +3

    this dudes videos are so high quality his view counts should be way hihjert

  • @hezekiahramirez6965
    @hezekiahramirez6965 4 місяці тому +1

    I just want to say I love this channel. I only found it last year but it's quickly become one of my favorites. Thanks for all the interesting information. Your videos are fascinating

  • @HallowPool193
    @HallowPool193 5 місяців тому +5

    Marty we need to go back to the past make the original back to the future

  • @rocketdude2969
    @rocketdude2969 5 місяців тому +5

    It's so true that Back to the future is a perfect movie . Its hard to believe anyone else in those parts . Yes the second one isn't as good but the third one made up for it . That is one franchise I could never see being remade or messed with.

  • @0-3jake
    @0-3jake 4 місяці тому +1

    Please don’t stop making these videos. You are currently my favorite channel on youtube!

  • @bobscanlon5212
    @bobscanlon5212 5 місяців тому +1

    Just rewatched yesterday. So good. As great as people think it is i still think it is underrated. What a perfect movie.

  • @TNHFPRODUCTIONS987
    @TNHFPRODUCTIONS987 5 місяців тому +5

    I hope one day we can see this version

  • @user-ok6ht5bk3e
    @user-ok6ht5bk3e Місяць тому

    I saw this movie so many times as a kid. This was one of the biggest movies of this period.
    80's were a different time.

  • @mr.vidjagamez9896
    @mr.vidjagamez9896 4 місяці тому +2

    Jeff Goldblum as a younger Doc could have been interesting in a way, since we could have had Marty not only interact with his parents as teenagers, but the Doc would have been a young adult at the time as well, possibly still in the early stages of his scientific academics and being amazed at what his future self will accomplish, maybe at this point still unsure if he was making the right decisions in his life versus the comparison of a suave, confident 1980s Doc Goldblum.

  • @loslakers530
    @loslakers530 5 місяців тому +3

    Like in the Flash movie, theres a reference to stoltz actually being marty. Maybe in another universe this actually happened along with the fridge as the time machine

  • @JustinMannMedia
    @JustinMannMedia 4 місяці тому +1

    Coming in to this video as a BTTF nerd, I assumed I wouldn’t learn anything new about the film. Color me shocked as I was unaware that Melora Hardin was the OG Jennifer. Thanks for the new info!

  • @erikess9796
    @erikess9796 5 місяців тому +1

    Ive watched all your videos, top tier and always informative and entertaining ... I'd love to see a much longer hour+ deep dive on any of these videos or other ideas

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! I may start a podcast so would go longer doing those episodes

  • @ramyal-rufaie738
    @ramyal-rufaie738 4 місяці тому

    Love your channel, and I think this is one of your best vids yet. Great stuff 👍🏼.

  • @patrickbossio8044
    @patrickbossio8044 5 місяців тому +2

    Another perfect synopsis of what could have been. Keep it up brother.
    PS> I have to say your videos centered on one movie rather than multiples (like Spielberg’s ET feature) are more effective.

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  5 місяців тому

      Thanks! I only did the videos on Spielberg and Tarantino because there wasn't enough material to do an entire video about only one of their unmade films.

  • @Adam-yf3ss
    @Adam-yf3ss 4 місяці тому

    Love it. Even with how much I already knew, you still find new details!

  • @bobscanlon5212
    @bobscanlon5212 5 місяців тому +2

    Once again you killed it. Best channel on yt

  • @mtank30
    @mtank30 5 місяців тому +3

    I love this channel because, as a film buff, I feel like I already know everything about these classics... but you always seem to come up with new knowledge that I've not yet been privy to. Like the ending where George is the Heavyweight Champ of The World. That's hysterical! Plus all the BTS footage and photos that are fascinating. Keep these comin'! Cheers and Happy New Year!

  • @teammartin95
    @teammartin95 4 місяці тому +1

    Now I'm morbidly curious to see what Jeff Goldblum as Doc Brown would be like

  • @machofreak123
    @machofreak123 5 місяців тому +5

    Id love if you did one on the sequels as well of back to the future

  • @VanillaLimeCoke
    @VanillaLimeCoke 8 днів тому

    3:56 - 4:06
    I remember reading this in one of the scripts.
    This might be how Marty was able to afford replacing his Walkman after Strickland squashed it, which was also in an earlier script or two.
    Plus in the bootlegging script, original 1985 Biff Tannen is a security guard who knows what Marty is doing and refers to him as Al Capone.
    Other interesting things are name changes….
    Loraine was named Elaine
    Jennifer was named Suzy Parker (still same last name)
    Biff’s guys are named 3D, Match, Skinhead…..one of them was named Gums
    Also dates were changed. Like Marty went back to March 1954 or 1955.
    Seriously, one of the best films ever went through so many scripts…..and each of those scripts are still so magnificent that I strongly believe if they had gone that way…the film would’ve still been a success.

  • @docdaytona108
    @docdaytona108 5 місяців тому +2

    Ironically, all of this is because of a 1980s-obsessed genius from 2045 who disliked ‘Space Man from Pluto’ so much, he built a simulation we all unknowingly (‘til now!) live in, and kept patching the damned movie until he got it jussst right. Unfortunately, WE don’t remember seeing Stoltz’s Marty play the Psychedlic Furs’ “Love My Way” to a gymnasium of baffled 1955 teens.
    Poor Stoltz. Last I heard, he got relegated to another life role in the simulation by some even bigger retro geek, selling drugs from his house, wearing a bathrobe and eating cereal all day.

  • @aaropajari7058
    @aaropajari7058 5 місяців тому

    Simply the greatest film and film series ever made. Thankyou for sharing this suoerb video.

  • @luisrizo8813
    @luisrizo8813 5 місяців тому +1

    Futurepedia has the entire still gallery of Eric Stoltz filmed scenes.

  • @user-qg1cz5ie9j
    @user-qg1cz5ie9j 5 місяців тому +2

    I can't find any clips where Eric Stoltz speaks in the scene? I would love to see this and listen to the difference in voice from Michael J. Fox. Still the best movie of the 80's ever!🏫

  • @Pbsdidthat
    @Pbsdidthat 5 місяців тому +1

    You never disappoint

  • @michaelrose7271
    @michaelrose7271 4 місяці тому

    Great video. Thank you.

  • @straker454
    @straker454 5 місяців тому +2

    I'm kinda surprised you also didn't mention the OTHER start of the film. See, they switched the time machine into a DeLorean for the film, but they kept the bomb ending at first, but how did they know when the bomb test was going to be? Well, in the novelization of the film, George Gipe had used an early screenplay that had the film start with Marty in school where they screened a film of a nuclear bomb test that was filmed in 1955 with the date and time it was filmed as well as the location. Doc calls Marty at school and Marty received detention from Principal Strickland for taking private calls on school hours. Later that day, Marty has to escape detention and make it to the school audition, which takes place at the YMCA in the book. It's funny because the book has the original opening that works with the bomb ending, but it actually ends with the lightning strike at the clock tower instead of the bomb ending they planned to still use for the film...until it was changed, showing just how last minute the new start of the film was changed as George Gipe probably had the screenplay from before Eric Stoltz was cast. In the book, the description of Marty is almost dead on to what Eric wore in the film, including the US Patent on the electric guitar on his t-shirt and green sneakers. In the book, instead of the life preserver joke, the comments by Marty's grandmother in 1955 was that he worked at the carnival or circus.

  • @maxewmathwell
    @maxewmathwell 12 днів тому

    I love that the retro-futuristic ending idea was re-used somewhat in the Back to the Future game by Tell Tale Games.

  • @Alfie223
    @Alfie223 4 місяці тому +2

    Missed opportunity to show a shot of the 2 Bobs from Office Space when you showed the other 2 Bobs

  • @simonbionary11010
    @simonbionary11010 2 місяці тому

    No one knew this film was gonna be such a hit. sometimes a film need air before its success can be visible.

  • @mistaneon
    @mistaneon 2 дні тому

    I am waiting a few more years to watch this with my 4 and 6 year old boys. Can't wait

  • @neffyboy
    @neffyboy 4 місяці тому +1

    I hope that all of the Eric Stoltz footage gets released in 2025 for the movie's 40th anniversary.

  • @joeeyaura
    @joeeyaura 4 місяці тому +1

    amazing how great Michael j Fox did considering he was probably exhausted the whole time shooting it.

  • @JKaiserable
    @JKaiserable 24 дні тому +2

    Spielberg worrying about kids getting stuck in refrigerators is wholesome.

    • @sandyunderpants4376
      @sandyunderpants4376 20 днів тому

      That was a common way for kids to die in the 80s while playing hide n go seek.

  • @zzjimmai59
    @zzjimmai59 3 місяці тому +1

    Somewhere in another dimension or parallel universe people are having the Mandela effect that Back to the future was casting M. J. Fox but actually E. Stolz is the main character from their parallel perspective.

  • @pepperpeterpiperpickled9805
    @pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 5 місяців тому +1

    "Space man from Pluto" hahahaha
    Whether it's on Reaper's reviews or this channel, I love that clip from the simpsons "oh how convenient".
    You guys are knocking it out of the park with the quality man, remember me when you hit 500k subs

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  5 місяців тому +1

      We will!!! Thanks!

    • @davidjames579
      @davidjames579 5 місяців тому +1

      I don't know what Sid Sheinberg was thinking. Even in the 80's that title would have been box office poison and laughed at. His rationale contradicts itself since he thinks BTTF is too genre, but Spaceman From Pluto isn't. Despite him saying some might say it evokes Sci-Fi movies. I.e. genre. I'm sure to this day people would be saying that movie lied as none of the characters are spacemen.

    • @pepperpeterpiperpickled9805
      @pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 5 місяців тому +1

      @@davidjames579 He was clearly not in touch with the modern audience. 'Space man from pluto' sounds like a movie that'd get made in the 50s.
      Although I guess if Marty's dad writes a book about the space man from pluto (inspired by marty's time machine) then the title makes sense.

  • @lancebaylis3169
    @lancebaylis3169 3 місяці тому

    It's quite astonishing, when you go looking for production photos, just how much of the movie seems to have been completed before they recast. It seems a good number of plot-critical scenes actually have alternative versions featuring Stoltz somewhere, but maybe not quite enough to make the full movie. Even getting to see what there is would be fascinating.

  • @aleksvidaic9021
    @aleksvidaic9021 5 місяців тому

    Excellent video!

  • @garymurphy6901
    @garymurphy6901 5 місяців тому +1

    That was the best thing to happen to the 1 of the best trilogies to date all the delays fixed to make it brilliant, another great video 😀

  • @TheArcher101
    @TheArcher101 4 місяці тому

    The Chuck Berry scene is always funny 😂
    It never even occured to me about Marty's being outside of his own (new) upbringing like that, that's an interesting point and idea
    A "Grandmaster"-like Doc Brown though? Fantastic 😂

  • @guutoalves
    @guutoalves 5 місяців тому

    great video as usual!

  • @ChadBest-ug8uo
    @ChadBest-ug8uo 4 місяці тому

    Stoltz did Mask about the same time. Ironically, Mask and Back to the Future are my two favorite movies!

  • @ajconstantine3593
    @ajconstantine3593 4 місяці тому +1

    This movie has always been the dividing line in my life between those born in 1969 and anyone two or more years younger.
    When this came out, I was just a 🤏 too old to have any interest, but my younger brother & his buddies were all over it. To this day, I haven’t seen it & don’t have any nostalgic pull to watch it. Anyone else my age in the same boat? 🤷‍♂️
    (Ironically, Stoltz was IN my wheelhouse-go figure.)

    • @markyacoubian1911
      @markyacoubian1911 4 місяці тому

      I was 4. I liked it. Also loved Fox in Family Ties. Although I really wanna see the Stoltz cut! I think he "got it".

  • @Jogeta5
    @Jogeta5 5 місяців тому +1

    Holy crap, Sid was on strong stuff to think a title like that would have been better.
    Out. of. Touch.
    I wonder if that was some nostalgia on his part trying to push that title change?

    • @Bulletsandblockbusters
      @Bulletsandblockbusters  5 місяців тому

      Possibly! I understand his logic and what he was trying to do, especially considering how he was worried how movies with “time” in the title generally don’t do well but his suggestion was awful

  • @paracyntrix
    @paracyntrix 5 місяців тому

    I've seen all these "what could have beens" in separate videos. It's great to see them all in one spot! 👌🏼
    One trivia that got missed out is why Doc pronounces it jigawatts instead of gigawatts. If it had been the correct pronunciation, then it would have been less memorable.

  • @vladciobanu7480
    @vladciobanu7480 5 місяців тому +2

    Funny stuff :)) Often, I want to see another variant of the same movie, out of curiosity.

  • @TheNativeEngine
    @TheNativeEngine 4 місяці тому +1

    Eric Stolz's Marty had some cool looking clothes.

    • @markyacoubian1911
      @markyacoubian1911 4 місяці тому

      I am beginning to think that Bob and Bob didn't read their own script. They replaced the Stoltz movie with "ALEX P. KEATON IN SPACE (TIME)!"