What did you think of Mission: Impossible Fallout? Was it worth Henry Cavill's CGI'd face in Justice League? I already know the answer to one of those questions but comment below with your thoughts on the film!
Mission: Impossible II was horrible! And with regards to the first Mission Impossible movie, I come from the generation that grew up watching Classic Mission Impossible on TV in the 1960's. When it's revealed that Jim Phelps is the Villian in the first movie, it was very traumatic for us (I thought it was one hell of a plot twist, but still traumatic). Jim Phelps was a Demi-god to us. He would NEVER betray the US! There are a lot of older Classic Mission Impossible fans who will never forgive Tom Cruise for Phelps being the Villian in MI I. My rankings: 1. Rogue Nation 2. Mission Impossible 3. Fallout 4. Mission Impossible III 5. Ghost Protocol 6. Mission Impossible II
I just came back from the theater, and all I can say is: That Bathroom fight scene. YES. I don't remember when was the last time I enjoyed an action movie this much.
deffinition watched it last night , I thought FALLOUT WAS EXCELLENT. I don’t know how many people knew in the audience that was MAX’s daughter. I did. I rate 2 the worse . I didn’t like mi3, original third, ghost protocol fourth , rogue nation and the best. Fall out
Exhilarating film -Tom.Cruise passion for perfection with performing stunts -his chemistry with his fellow actor reflects a sense of originality & connectivity with the audience.
Ranking wise 1) Ghost Protocol 2) Rogue Nation 3) Fallout 4) M:I 3 5) M:I 1 6) M:I 2 As for revisiting, really the whole set is pretty strong but it didn’t find real footing until Ghost Protocol and the series since has found the right balance to at this point outshine James Bond in terms of stakes, stunts, location and filming (the chases around Paris and London in Fallout were honestly breathtaking and, if anything, put more pressure on 007 going forward).
Everybody asking the same question about Lark and the Apostle. At the beginning of the movie they never said that John Lark was the leader, the MIF said it was a name they got "associated" to the Apostle. But actually is was a alias that anyone could have used. Like the chinese guy with the MI6, like Hunt, and like Wilson. Is like the "John Doe" reference of the white widow.
This was the best M:I movie i've seen in awhile, but anyway's still worth to watch. And my list from best to worst: MI3 Fallout Rogue Nation Ghost Protocol The Original MI2
You know the scene where Walker and Hunt climb up that rope holding the helicopter on the cliff? I recreated that scene using TCAS (Traffic Collison Avoidance System) Hunt: CLIMB CLIMB CLIMB Walker: DESCEND DESCEND DESCEND **Walker falls** CLEAR OF CONFLICT
Ok, I'm so confused after the movie. First gunfight, Apostles got the bombs. Why would they give the bombs to Widow? Why didn't they go to Kashmir and do whatever they want? Widow then tried to sell the bomb to Lark? (so Lark isn't a part of Apostles) but she planned on using selling Lark back to MI6 for her protection? Why didn't she just sell the bomb back to CIA / MI6, instead of incredile vague plan. Maybe Apostle sells her the bomb so she can break out Lane? Which also doesn't make sense because their end game (nuclear bombs) don't need Lane at all.
they gave the bombs to widow because they wanted her to leverage the bombs for Solomon Lane's freedom( I don't know why they wanted Lane, it could be that he's the only one who knew how to use those plutonium cores as an explosive device, it was mentioned in the beginning that very few people in the world have the technical expertise to operate those devices), the apostles only gave her a single bomb which she probably did give to CIA that's why the lark/solomon operation underwent only with two plutonium cores
but in the tunnel scene walker says that the deal was simple: he gives hunt to lane and gets the plutonium for himself. if walker (lark) keeps the plutonium, how does lane blow up the glacier?
This movie was beautifully shot but deffinatley had plot holes that creates more from one thing to another. If White widow was a mole for CIA why would she want Ethan "lark" to extract lane out only to bring him back in to MI6?? Did the CIA really not inform her who ethan was and how he looked? Or did she know all the time that ethan was faking as lark?? And if walker wanted to frame ethan as lark, did he then KNOW that fake asian lark would die in the bathroom possibly by him in the fight? Bcuz he didn't know existence of Ilsa to step forward and shoot him. If they didn't involve white widow as CIA's mole at the end then it wouldn't be so confusing
Loved the movie. Probably would rank it 3rd after ghost protocol and rogue nation although it’s pretty much more of the same as rogue nation so they are somewhat tied in second place imo. I didn’t understand why white widow promised the plutonium but then we jump to the plutonium being used to bomb and poison the water. I know she said something about just being a broker but I guess I missed what happened when they delivered lane and should have got the plutonium
You almost gave me a shocker. Thought you said 2 was your favorite haha. That one sure is the odd one of them all. After a recent rewatch of them all, it still really is.
The plot maybe confusing, but here's my opinion : 1. Walker has the bomb blueprint from Dr. Nils. He's the conceptor. 2. The apostles still work under Lane, they'll likely have the plutoniums with or without Ethan's first attempt to steal. They're the executor. 3. The conceptor wants to collaborate with the executor, but Lane as the apostles' leader has one condition to frame Hunt and his ex wife for his personal revenge. 3. So Walker accepts Lane condition, and uses his CIA status to hire White Widow as a broker, so he can place Hunt As Lark. 4. Walker continues his plan to frame Hunt as he orders White Widow to release Lane. Lane sacrifices one plutonium to make the Hunt - White Widow deal looks real. 5. Walker tries to prove that Hunt is Lark, but the plan is failed and then flees with Lane and the 2 remaining plutoniums. They arrange the explosion in Kashmir, but then intercepted by Hunt & his teammates. 6. While Ilsa's mission is to bring Lane back to MI6, whatever the cimcumstances are, even if she has to kill Hunt or interferes other parties' mission. 7. After the explosion failed, CIA hands Lane to MI6 through White Widow as a broker and that frees Ilsa from her burden. That's my opinion, please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm still thinking about this plot too.
looks mostly good, but there's that scene underground where walker is speaking to (he thinks) lane and says something along the lines of: the deal was clear, you (lane) get hunt, I (walker/lark) get the plutonium. but the way the movie plays out, it seems like it was lane's plan to have hunt witness everything including his ex-wife's death. so it seems like lane orchestrated everything, even tho it was supposedly walker who penned the manifesto.
Great review & breakdown!! Not toooo long and complex, to the point of being boring, but enough to make a helpful, informative vid. Thank you!! Just one question: at what point is it revealed that the White Widow is the daughter of Max, from the first movie?? This passed me by completely!!! THANK YOU!!
It's funny how the beginning of this series, it was understood that none of the movies were to be related; but all different missions...and now for franchise purposes, somehow they all are...might as well let justin lin direct😁👍
Hermy Own I just watched both and tbh ghost protocol isn’t as good as you remember. I thought it was better then I re watched it and it was so boring after the tower of Dubai scene. The villain was forgettable like most but honestly it felt slower than rogue and fallout. My opinion but rewatch ghost protocol and you’ll notice it too
Spoiler video right? Serious plot question: They were supposed to hand Lane over to White Widow in London in exchange for the two nuclear kettle bells right? If she had the nukes, how did Terrorist Castaway and Stache Superman just suddenly have them in Kashmir after the whole getaway by chopper after the "Superman didnt kill him in the elevator" scene?
Alright never mind, someone has already answered this question in this discussion earlier. The white widow was merely a broker, she didn't have all the 3 bombs. She had one bomb but the apostles had the other two which is why there were two bombs at the end.
how did they answer it? because it sounds like you're referring to the first meeting, where she gives 1 plutonium core as a down payment and promises the other 2 in exchange for lane. when they meet in london she's supposed to have the other 2 ready
I still don't understand why the White Widow wants Lane alive. I wonder if she'd play a part in the next movie. Like how she has the Plutonium. I really like her character
Didn't explain why Lane has 2 bombs. Only 1 Plutonium was given, and the other 2 will be given once lane gets handed over. Walker not killing Hunt and threatening Hunt with his ex wife is weird, requiring Hunt to admit he is Lark? Hunt contacted his ex wife and nothing happened... Meeting Lark without knowing how he looks like is stupid. No other identification purpose. Would be nice to explain the intricacies of the plot
The scientist was seen in a (fake) hospital room after being hurt in what he thought was a random car accident. Then we learn it was actually Benji who rammed a car into him.
It's implied that Erika Sloane went to Hunley with Walker's phony evidence against Ethan, and Hunley convinced her that the evidence was fabricated, which made Walker the obvivous suspect.
I didn't care much for this movie. It was comic book in action....way too unbelievable. The characters were not well fleshed out, and the plot needed a pre-viewing synopsis (like an opera, only much worse), to make any sense at all of it. A waste of time, though I got a few laughs out of it.
I’m confused I thought that black lady and Henry Cavill were on the same team? And then Henry turns bad at the end and then also at the end the black lady is shown smiling to Tom Cruise who appears a good guy now? explain pls wtf
Superman as the most notorious criminal in the world, who wants to kill 1/3 of the world's population, seriously? That's stupid. But Henry did the role very well.:)
Only question I can answer.. the kung fu guy was just a fake lark set by Walker. I guess his plan was to kill the asian dude in the bathroom during the fight for ethan to impersonate as lark to white widow later. Or at least ethan to wear the face mask of the asian guy as lark.. but instead Ilsa showed up and shot the asian lark in the face
The apostles wanted Lane freed, and didn't care about the plutonium or making bombs other than helping Lane with his revenge plan. The small pox outbreak was just an excuse to get Ethan's ex-wife in the area, and this happened before the plutonium deal went south in the beginning of the movie. It wasn't a plan B because Lark got exposed. It was always the plan. Lane probably set this plan up through the Apostles somehow from the inside and made it known that he wanted to frame Ethan and kill his ex-wife. Meanwhile, Lark wanted the plutonium for the bombs that the car accident Dr. made (Lane didn't make the bombs). If this was all planned from the beginning, then Lark agreed to frame Ethan from the beginning and planted the info about the meeting with the White Widow on the server connected to the Dr.'s phone so Ethan's team would find it. Since everyone seemed to know about the meeting, it didn't seem like it was very secret. There were multiple assassins there ready to kill Lark. Ethan tricked the White Widow into thinking they were there to kill her so she would trust him and help him escape. Lark needed someone to break Lane out in order to do the deal with the Apostles but couldn't risk exposing himself. Lark knew that if the decoy Lark was killed, Ethan was reckless enough to improvise and pretend to be Lark, which would make it easy to frame him. Lark knew all along that the deal would involve breaking Lane out. The only way Lark could get the plutonium is if he could frame Ethan and also kill everyone Ethan loved, so Lark couldn't kill Ethan in the elevator. The Apostles likely met Lark and Lane at the camp with the plutonium once Lane was assured that Ethan was on his way. Lark knew there was a tracking device in Lane because he saw them put it in him. He had to help Lane set up his ultimate revenge. Lark got his manifesto plan enacted (sort of) and Lane got his revenge plan enacted. That was the deal. No plutonium until every part of the revenge plan and framing Ethan was put into place. The White Widow meeting was all about framing Ethan.
As a 50 year old life time Bond fan, these movie's have blown them out of the water, fair play to you Tom. Rouge Nation was better than SPECTRE even though it was basically the same plot
descent56 yes he is killed when Ethan crashes the two helicopters. One goes off a cliff whilst the other dangles. When they are climbing against the rocks Hunt pulls down on the rope that is keeping the helicopter on the cliff and Cavill’s character gets pulled down with it
Phua Xien gets choked out till he is unconscious. At the end of the film we see him get thrown in the back of the trunk and taken away by the white widow
Hold on, you mean to tell me that Ethan and IMF knew or at least had a hunch that Walker was really John Lark? So much so that they set up an entire thing just to catch him in a lie and the real soloman lane was right there the whole time and didn't say a thing to lark. But then goes with him like 10 minutes later? Wtf this movie was sort of a mess.
The only thing they set up to catch Walker was leaving him alone with fake Lane. When they retrieved the real Lane from the truck underwater, they must have then swapped him with the fake one during the boat ride, before bringing him to meet Walker. The real Lane was kept hidden nearby, unable to warn Walker, until after Walker's confession. When Walker learned about the mask, then the others showed up with the real Lane.
I don't get it... So, Larke (henry Cavill) is the leader of the Apostles...He's the one who wrote the manifesto.. His henchmen(members of the Apostles) managed to steal the 3 plutonium cores from the scene where Ethan met the unknown arms dealer.... Didn't he just receive the 3 cores? why give 1 of the cores to the widow? So, was he the one who sets up the meeting between Ethan and the White Widow(undercover from CIA which he knew because he was working for the CIA too) because he wanted the CIA to believe that Ethan is John Larke? What's the connection between Larke and Lane since both of them are the terrorist leaders? what does Larke need Lane for?
Apostle gave 1 plutonium as a downpayment after the exchange they will give the other 2 plutonium. Widow is a broker. The seller was the apostles but they payment the seller wants is Lane. However the Buyer (lark) is Henry cavil. The group want plutonium and Lane out
Are you sure your ranking them from best to worst and not worst to best?? Because you seriously claim that the garbage John woo number two film is the best??? Everybody knows that’s at least three if not four!
Damn, wanted to believe the "97%" rating score for MI Fallout...but, alas, this is the most hokey jam-as-much-confusion-covered-by-nonsense-twists spy film i have ever seen ( and i saw Fallout TWICE already). Mcquarrie designed the plot around set pieces that really really beg for your suspension of disbelief, even for an MI movie. Rogue Nation was cleaner, sharper...Fallout is muddled and pretends to be smart. The basic problem is the key plot points that don't make much logical sense. And walker...it's too convenient he's got apostles deep in the cia ( but didn't realize hunt was the one who captured lane who is in cohorts with walker, unless walker was playing along) etc. why not try to work under hunley to get even closer to hunt than from the other end ( under sloan)? the lark character is another shitty plot device ( but that Chinese actor in the bathroom fight is badass!). if walker and lane have their eyes and ears everywhere, why need hunt to intercept lark for the nukes?...to make and then frame hunt for freeing lane as the goal, etc?...that is so brainless writing. Maybe if hunt cared more about the mission than individual members ( pretentious theme of this film) , the story would be less foggy and better to grasp at. The setup of lane and walker as linked and thinly ideologically complementing villains is strecthing and hinders an already a gimmicky storyline. Deal is, this movie could have lane and even walker achieving their goals without the IMF getting involved in the story ( though the excuse is that lane has this obsession with hunt that never was strongly set up even in RN, thus as i said intercepting lark to get the nukes from white widow is frigging nonsensical... and white widow works for the CIA ??, but how she's got one nuke from the apostles? so why not the CIA use her to lead them to the apostles and the remaining two nukes????). Better try for MI 7. The original Brian DePalma MI is far far far the best, a classic. Mcquarrie ain't no DePalma for sure. RN a distant second GP third. MI 3, MI 2 and Fallout are nutty.
nistel SE dude! You said everything i had scrambled in my head after leaving this film and wrote it down to a T so i could understand even my own thoughts. For me the only good thing about this film was the spectacle, which includes some of the best live action scenes ive ever seen in a movie, creds to that. However, the plot, pacing and characters of this movie is a god damn mess. Now, i will tell the truth... before this i have never seen a MI movie the whole way through.... only watched half of ghost protocol. As an outsider to me this film and this series is totally laughable, even Spectre was better than this..... the plot and action sequences made no god damn sense, even if they were cool as hell. Style over substance.... for me irl never pay to see another MI movie in the cinema again.
Please all stop saying its the best action movie...its not! Its crap...its not cgi fine its good...but the timings of the action and our hero escapes all of them..please....helicopter scenes were good to see..but physically not possible to achieve..especially in real world...bike chase in paris..wow what a scene..he doesnt know where to ride..goes opp directions of traffic without a scratch...cops coming all directions..finally he rams into a car...doesnt know what to do...runs on foot..jumps in a bush...uses knife to cut through a fountain mesh wire and escapes on boat below where the team was waiting..all thid planned in one night..how lame is that.. Also ..was hunt playing a video game to such a precision when in helicopter chase sequence..fuel check..air gauge check...what the heck...looked like first time piloting and to what precision...our bad guy gets hot oil on his face hanging from helicopter..and our hero is saved by hook timings...who writes such professional lines in movies..
couldn't agree more with you. I think the marketing brainwashed everybody. This installment was the worst of the series by far. Also Cruise's acting was beyond horrible. Bruce willis acting is better in death wish.
somchai shanabi i think its unfair to look for acting in such movies...its meant to market action fans...and i am an action fan and appreciate if its made good...the execution of the stunts looks fine in this movie...but its not the best by any means....reviewers are hailing this movie as best of this generation....its not...best action movies is john wick both parts...mad max fury road...and people are comparing this to such gems...please ...such paid rantings should stop!
RespectfullyI disagree. Look at mi3. The acting took it to another level. Look at Casino Royale, Matrix, Die hard first trilogy. I mean it doesn't have to be an oscar level acting but at least good enough to relate with the super-persona it presents. So my thing is that Cruise didn't sell the role in this one. He sold the stunts. But when you go to a movie you want to relate. Otherwise watch a documentary about stuntmen or Jackass or Jackie Chan and i guarantee you will get more. But really when i saw Cruise saying his first line to the bad guys "I am here for business" it felt like watching the old zombie (bruce) willis performing. Lol. For me landmark performances were the ones in Mi3. The opening scene is truly oscar worthy don't you think?
somchai shanabi what did Tom do or say or what made him such a bad actor. You just sound like you wanted to hate the movie from before you seen it. Like your a devils advocate. I’ve seen a lot of movies and a lot of bad acting. Your making it sound like Tom was tommy wiseue from the room. It wasn’t bad he’s 60 yrs and he’s a vet in mission impossible an old man putting in work. People change in 22yrs it’s not bad acting just a weathered man.
First of all let me clear something up. I love the MI franchise. And Tom cruise. But his acting on this one was just off. The story and script were at best mediocre and there is plenty evidence of that if you see the previous installments. It's clear when a movie is made just to make bucks and when a movie is made with passion and also make bucks. This one was the most terrible installment of this franchise by far. Rogue nation was 3 years ago. People don't change that much in 3 years. Especially actors that they are on the top of their game. Tom just didn't care so much about acting in this one. He is clearly bored. Just like the recent bruce willis.
Well i always like Tom Cruise and all this franchise so i was truly shocked. It's kinda like a Cruise is trying to be more of a stuntman and less of an actor. The movie was the worst. Honestly i loved the second one.
yeah I get what you mean. To be honest I really admire the fact he does his own stunts especially when so much is CGI now but to each his own. How would you rank the series just out of interest?
It's the worst in my opinion. You see stunts are good but primarily you want him to put his energy on his acting. That high speed energy that makes you relate. I advise you to watch the first scene from mission impossible 3 to understand what i mean. I think that scene is one of the best tom cruise's acting bits. In this one (fallout) he just doesn't act. He looks more like a tired bruce willis. Also the humor falls flat. He keeps saying "i am sorry.." and "we will figure it out.." every 5 minutes. Please watch this link and then compare this acting with the one now. I would like him to do more acting and less stunts. ua-cam.com/video/kUx_RIAvVis/v-deo.html Look how it takes off after 2.27 Now compare that acting to the latest movie. He just doesn't act. He is like Cruise Willis.. Lol
What did you think of Mission: Impossible Fallout? Was it worth Henry Cavill's CGI'd face in Justice League? I already know the answer to one of those questions but comment below with your thoughts on the film!
Hell yeah worth it. What.. Make a shitty movie a touch shitter to make a badass movie the right way? Yes
You said Best to Worst, but then ranked it Worst to Best
dont you mean worst to best? because i doubt MI-2 is your favorite movie, lol.
Fallout was the best in the series. I think Rogue Nation was better than MI 3. I was confused with Julia. Was that her real husband or a cover?
Mission: Impossible II was horrible! And with regards to the first Mission Impossible movie, I come from the generation that grew up watching Classic Mission Impossible on TV in the 1960's. When it's revealed that Jim Phelps is the Villian in the first movie, it was very traumatic for us (I thought it was one hell of a plot twist, but still traumatic). Jim Phelps was a Demi-god to us. He would NEVER betray the US! There are a lot of older Classic Mission Impossible fans who will never forgive Tom Cruise for Phelps being the Villian in MI I.
My rankings:
1. Rogue Nation 2. Mission Impossible 3. Fallout 4. Mission Impossible III 5. Ghost Protocol 6. Mission Impossible II
I just came back from the theater, and all I can say is: That Bathroom fight scene. YES.
I don't remember when was the last time I enjoyed an action movie this much.
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this scene reminded me a lot the bathroom fight scene in True Lies
at 3:48 you said "ranking from BEST to WORST" but then you go ranking them as WORST to BEST, dude.
just kill me
you shoud add a pop-up note XD
deffinition watched it last night , I thought FALLOUT WAS EXCELLENT. I don’t know how many people knew in the audience that was MAX’s daughter. I did. I rate 2 the worse . I didn’t like mi3, original third, ghost protocol fourth , rogue nation and the best. Fall out
Exhilarating film -Tom.Cruise passion for perfection with performing stunts -his chemistry with his fellow actor reflects a sense of originality & connectivity with the audience.
Loved the movie overall, but, yes, I was still scratching my head as I left. Thank goodness for UA-cam discussions to find answers!
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WHY WOULD LARK NEED A BROKER TO GET HIS BOMBS FROM HIS OWN PEOPLE?
Exactly my thought!
exactly. So many holes.
He didnt. That was an elaborate plot to frame Hunt for the attack
That was an elaborate hole on the script that they left uncovered. Miss Mi3 and Ghosty Protocoll. Even Rogue Nation. Those were movies with balls.
better watch die hard 3 that has a real plot. Not this garbage.
Ranking wise
1) Ghost Protocol
2) Rogue Nation
3) Fallout
4) M:I 3
5) M:I 1
6) M:I 2
As for revisiting, really the whole set is pretty strong but it didn’t find real footing until Ghost Protocol and the series since has found the right balance to at this point outshine James Bond in terms of stakes, stunts, location and filming (the chases around Paris and London in Fallout were honestly breathtaking and, if anything, put more pressure on 007 going forward).
You are wrong. Cavil looks like twoface
Everybody asking the same question about Lark and the Apostle. At the beginning of the movie they never said that John Lark was the leader, the MIF said it was a name they got "associated" to the Apostle. But actually is was a alias that anyone could have used. Like the chinese guy with the MI6, like Hunt, and like Wilson. Is like the "John Doe" reference of the white widow.
This was the best M:I movie i've seen in awhile, but anyway's still worth to watch. And my list from best to worst:
MI3
Fallout
Rogue Nation
Ghost Protocol
The Original
MI2
You know the scene where Walker and Hunt climb up that rope holding the helicopter on the cliff? I recreated that scene using TCAS (Traffic Collison Avoidance System)
Hunt: CLIMB CLIMB CLIMB
Walker: DESCEND DESCEND DESCEND
**Walker falls**
CLEAR OF CONFLICT
Ok, I'm so confused after the movie.
First gunfight, Apostles got the bombs. Why would they give the bombs to Widow? Why didn't they go to Kashmir and do whatever they want?
Widow then tried to sell the bomb to Lark? (so Lark isn't a part of Apostles) but she planned on using selling Lark back to MI6 for her protection? Why didn't she just sell the bomb back to CIA / MI6, instead of incredile vague plan.
Maybe Apostle sells her the bomb so she can break out Lane? Which also doesn't make sense because their end game (nuclear bombs) don't need Lane at all.
they gave the bombs to widow because they wanted her to leverage the bombs for Solomon Lane's freedom( I don't know why they wanted Lane, it could be that he's the only one who knew how to use those plutonium cores as an explosive device, it was mentioned in the beginning that very few people in the world have the technical expertise to operate those devices), the apostles only gave her a single bomb which she probably did give to CIA that's why the lark/solomon operation underwent only with two plutonium cores
but in the tunnel scene walker says that the deal was simple: he gives hunt to lane and gets the plutonium for himself. if walker (lark) keeps the plutonium, how does lane blow up the glacier?
This movie was beautifully shot but deffinatley had plot holes that creates more from one thing to another. If White widow was a mole for CIA why would she want Ethan "lark" to extract lane out only to bring him back in to MI6?? Did the CIA really not inform her who ethan was and how he looked? Or did she know all the time that ethan was faking as lark?? And if walker wanted to frame ethan as lark, did he then KNOW that fake asian lark would die in the bathroom possibly by him in the fight? Bcuz he didn't know existence of Ilsa to step forward and shoot him.
If they didn't involve white widow as CIA's mole at the end then it wouldn't be so confusing
Loved the movie. Probably would rank it 3rd after ghost protocol and rogue nation although it’s pretty much more of the same as rogue nation so they are somewhat tied in second place imo. I didn’t understand why white widow promised the plutonium but then we jump to the plutonium being used to bomb and poison the water. I know she said something about just being a broker but I guess I missed what happened when they delivered lane and should have got the plutonium
I loved Fallout and I’m in game for 1 or 2 more films in the series
You almost gave me a shocker. Thought you said 2 was your favorite haha. That one sure is the odd one of them all. After a recent rewatch of them all, it still really is.
This was fantastic! Thank you!
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There’s definitely gonna be another movie
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deffinition Question. Is Ethan gonna get back together with his ex? Or is he gonna move on with ilsa?
Emerald Banks we’ll from what I saw he’s definitely gonna be with ilsa because his ex is with a new man and they already have a reason to be separated
The best movie of the year
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I've watched the movie many times, but I still need to see this because I am not bright enough to understand movie's story.
The plot maybe confusing, but here's my opinion :
1. Walker has the bomb blueprint from Dr. Nils. He's the conceptor.
2. The apostles still work under Lane, they'll likely have the plutoniums with or without Ethan's first attempt to steal. They're the executor.
3. The conceptor wants to collaborate with the executor, but Lane as the apostles' leader has one condition to frame Hunt and his ex wife for his personal revenge.
3. So Walker accepts Lane condition, and uses his CIA status to hire White Widow as a broker, so he can place Hunt As Lark.
4. Walker continues his plan to frame Hunt as he orders White Widow to release Lane. Lane sacrifices one plutonium to make the Hunt - White Widow deal looks real.
5. Walker tries to prove that Hunt is Lark, but the plan is failed and then flees with Lane and the 2 remaining plutoniums. They arrange the explosion in Kashmir, but then intercepted by Hunt & his teammates.
6. While Ilsa's mission is to bring Lane back to MI6, whatever the cimcumstances are, even if she has to kill Hunt or interferes other parties' mission.
7. After the explosion failed, CIA hands Lane to MI6 through White Widow as a broker and that frees Ilsa from her burden.
That's my opinion, please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm still thinking about this plot too.
looks mostly good, but there's that scene underground where walker is speaking to (he thinks) lane and says something along the lines of: the deal was clear, you (lane) get hunt, I (walker/lark) get the plutonium. but the way the movie plays out, it seems like it was lane's plan to have hunt witness everything including his ex-wife's death. so it seems like lane orchestrated everything, even tho it was supposedly walker who penned the manifesto.
Great review & breakdown!! Not toooo long and complex, to the point of being boring, but enough to make a helpful, informative vid. Thank you!!
Just one question: at what point is it revealed that the White Widow is the daughter of Max, from the first movie?? This passed me by completely!!! THANK YOU!!
It's funny how the beginning of this series, it was understood that none of the movies were to be related; but all different missions...and now for franchise purposes, somehow they all are...might as well let justin lin direct😁👍
oh I have one question: what was the thing that sprayed into Walker's face and made him Crossbones?
Nhu Tran fuel I think may have had a high acidic content
thanks
I thought its because the oil was very hot, not acidic.
ghost protocol was best of all... enjoyed it right from the beginning. Fallout was good but ghost protocol is anytime better
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Hermy Own I just watched both and tbh ghost protocol isn’t as good as you remember. I thought it was better then I re watched it and it was so boring after the tower of Dubai scene. The villain was forgettable like most but honestly it felt slower than rogue and fallout. My opinion but rewatch ghost protocol and you’ll notice it too
Spoiler video right?
Serious plot question: They were supposed to hand Lane over to White Widow in London in exchange for the two nuclear kettle bells right? If she had the nukes, how did Terrorist Castaway and Stache Superman just suddenly have them in Kashmir after the whole getaway by chopper after the "Superman didnt kill him in the elevator" scene?
OMG! That's so true! Someone please answer this question before my head explodes! 🙈
Alright never mind, someone has already answered this question in this discussion earlier. The white widow was merely a broker, she didn't have all the 3 bombs. She had one bomb but the apostles had the other two which is why there were two bombs at the end.
how did they answer it? because it sounds like you're referring to the first meeting, where she gives 1 plutonium core as a down payment and promises the other 2 in exchange for lane. when they meet in london she's supposed to have the other 2 ready
She didnt have them in London, she was supposed to introduce Lark to a courier(the apostles) presumably who had them.
I enjoyed it... I watched it initially because of henry caville, but at the end I appreciated the whole cast, and Ethan Hunt is my newest hero.
Good stuff. Thanks.
High Desert Peeps thanks for the comment!
Does he look like Cross-Bones or Two-Face
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I still don't understand why the White Widow wants Lane alive. I wonder if she'd play a part in the next movie. Like how she has the Plutonium. I really like her character
Omemee Boonchai she wants to use him as a way of getting back into good favour with the governments of the world
Thanks for the comment btw
It's quite understandable....
Thanks ❤
When did Lark get the bomb? I thought the black widow still had it.
Quentin Ngo the white widow was merely a broker. She had one bomb but the apostles had the other two which is why there were two bombs at the end.
@@heavyspoilers and how she got that one bomb?
@@madduriyuktesh5345 They gave it to her, since she was their broker, to give to Lark as a down payment for completing his task.
Didn't explain why Lane has 2 bombs. Only 1 Plutonium was given, and the other 2 will be given once lane gets handed over.
Walker not killing Hunt and threatening Hunt with his ex wife is weird, requiring Hunt to admit he is Lark? Hunt contacted his ex wife and nothing happened...
Meeting Lark without knowing how he looks like is stupid. No other identification purpose.
Would be nice to explain the intricacies of the plot
Best to worst:
Mission: Impossible (1996)
Mission: Impossible III (2006)
Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol (2011)
Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation (2015) / Mission: Impossible - Fallout (2018)
Mission: Impossible 2 (2000)
How did walker got the two plutonium bombs??? Widow has it right???
How did Ethan manage to capture that scientist and obtain Lark's location?
The scientist was seen in a (fake) hospital room after being hurt in what he thought was a random car accident. Then we learn it was actually Benji who rammed a car into him.
my ranking from best to worst
1. Ghost Protocol
2.Fallout
3.Rogue Nation
4.MI2
5.MI3
6.MI
I just need one Thing cleared how Ethan found Walker was lark
It's implied that Erika Sloane went to Hunley with Walker's phony evidence against Ethan, and Hunley convinced her that the evidence was fabricated, which made Walker the obvivous suspect.
I didn't care much for this movie. It was comic book in action....way too unbelievable. The characters were not well fleshed out, and the plot needed a pre-viewing synopsis (like an opera, only much worse), to make any sense at all of it. A waste of time, though I got a few laughs out of it.
I’m confused I thought that black lady and Henry Cavill were on the same team? And then Henry turns bad at the end and then also at the end the black lady is shown smiling to Tom Cruise who appears a good guy now? explain pls wtf
Superman as the most notorious criminal in the world, who wants to kill 1/3 of the world's population, seriously? That's stupid. But Henry did the role very well.:)
How IMF team suspects that Walker is the real Lark?
Dude i dont get it, if lark is the moustache guy then who was the asian kung fu dude in the bathroom? And who sent him?
Only question I can answer.. the kung fu guy was just a fake lark set by Walker. I guess his plan was to kill the asian dude in the bathroom during the fight for ethan to impersonate as lark to white widow later. Or at least ethan to wear the face mask of the asian guy as lark.. but instead Ilsa showed up and shot the asian lark in the face
The apostles wanted Lane freed, and didn't care about the plutonium or making bombs other than helping Lane with his revenge plan. The small pox outbreak was just an excuse to get Ethan's ex-wife in the area, and this happened before the plutonium deal went south in the beginning of the movie. It wasn't a plan B because Lark got exposed. It was always the plan. Lane probably set this plan up through the Apostles somehow from the inside and made it known that he wanted to frame Ethan and kill his ex-wife. Meanwhile, Lark wanted the plutonium for the bombs that the car accident Dr. made (Lane didn't make the bombs). If this was all planned from the beginning, then Lark agreed to frame Ethan from the beginning and planted the info about the meeting with the White Widow on the server connected to the Dr.'s phone so Ethan's team would find it. Since everyone seemed to know about the meeting, it didn't seem like it was very secret. There were multiple assassins there ready to kill Lark. Ethan tricked the White Widow into thinking they were there to kill her so she would trust him and help him escape. Lark needed someone to break Lane out in order to do the deal with the Apostles but couldn't risk exposing himself. Lark knew that if the decoy Lark was killed, Ethan was reckless enough to improvise and pretend to be Lark, which would make it easy to frame him. Lark knew all along that the deal would involve breaking Lane out. The only way Lark could get the plutonium is if he could frame Ethan and also kill everyone Ethan loved, so Lark couldn't kill Ethan in the elevator. The Apostles likely met Lark and Lane at the camp with the plutonium once Lane was assured that Ethan was on his way. Lark knew there was a tracking device in Lane because he saw them put it in him. He had to help Lane set up his ultimate revenge. Lark got his manifesto plan enacted (sort of) and Lane got his revenge plan enacted. That was the deal. No plutonium until every part of the revenge plan and framing Ethan was put into place. The White Widow meeting was all about framing Ethan.
You're a genius
As a 50 year old life time Bond fan, these movie's have blown them out of the water, fair play to you Tom.
Rouge Nation was better than SPECTRE even though it was basically the same plot
If white widow is a CIA member,how the fuck she got one out of three plutonium cores?
Rogue Nation
Fallout
MI:3
Mission: Impossible
Ghost Protocol
MI:2
Does Henry Cavill’s character die at the end,if so how does he die ?
descent56 yes he is killed when Ethan crashes the two helicopters. One goes off a cliff whilst the other dangles. When they are climbing against the rocks Hunt pulls down on the rope that is keeping the helicopter on the cliff and Cavill’s character gets pulled down with it
descent56 he also gets a hook to the head
Sam McDonald yup, love how you just see him pulled down into the wreckage. Thanks for the comment
Phua Xien he gets put unconscious and they sat he’ll be arrested
Phua Xien gets choked out till he is unconscious. At the end of the film we see him get thrown in the back of the trunk and taken away by the white widow
how Walker find balls? just bought from the widow?
Dota 2 Streams Highlights yea Im still wondering lol
He got in touch with the other apostles through lane and they had them
I think the ranking will be:
1: Rogue Nation
2: MI
3: Fallout
4: MI 3
5: MI 4
6: MI 2
Please tell me was there a need of halo jump??
Vina Mungekar thanks for the comment
The halo jump got them into the Paris party
Yeah i got that..they could have infiltrated any how..but they did a 25000 halo jump..just to get in
Yeah it was the best scene after the helicopter chase
Fantastic chase scenes of nearly every kind in this movie. Foot, car, motorcycle, helicopter...
1) RN
2) FO
3) GP
4) MI3
5) MI2
6) MI
Hold on, you mean to tell me that Ethan and IMF knew or at least had a hunch that Walker was really John Lark? So much so that they set up an entire thing just to catch him in a lie and the real soloman lane was right there the whole time and didn't say a thing to lark. But then goes with him like 10 minutes later? Wtf this movie was sort of a mess.
The only thing they set up to catch Walker was leaving him alone with fake Lane. When they retrieved the real Lane from the truck underwater, they must have then swapped him with the fake one during the boat ride, before bringing him to meet Walker. The real Lane was kept hidden nearby, unable to warn Walker, until after Walker's confession. When Walker learned about the mask, then the others showed up with the real Lane.
I don't get it... So, Larke (henry Cavill) is the leader of the Apostles...He's the one who wrote the manifesto.. His henchmen(members of the Apostles) managed to steal the 3 plutonium cores from the scene where Ethan met the unknown arms dealer.... Didn't he just receive the 3 cores? why give 1 of the cores to the widow? So, was he the one who sets up the meeting between Ethan and the White Widow(undercover from CIA which he knew because he was working for the CIA too) because he wanted the CIA to believe that Ethan is John Larke? What's the connection between Larke and Lane since both of them are the terrorist leaders? what does Larke need Lane for?
Apostle gave 1 plutonium as a downpayment after the exchange they will give the other 2 plutonium.
Widow is a broker. The seller was the apostles but they payment the seller wants is Lane. However the Buyer (lark) is Henry cavil.
The group want plutonium and Lane out
Are you sure your ranking them from best to worst and not worst to best?? Because you seriously claim that the garbage John woo number two film is the best??? Everybody knows that’s at least three if not four!
Nukular? should pronounce Newclear
I won’t watch movie without it being spoiled. I find the story then watch it. The best way to see a movie. Surprise ruins everything.
Damn, wanted to believe the "97%" rating score for MI Fallout...but, alas, this is the most hokey jam-as-much-confusion-covered-by-nonsense-twists spy film i have ever seen ( and i saw Fallout TWICE already). Mcquarrie designed the plot around set pieces that really really beg for your suspension of disbelief, even for an MI movie. Rogue Nation was cleaner, sharper...Fallout is muddled and pretends to be smart. The basic problem is the key plot points that don't make much logical sense. And walker...it's too convenient he's got apostles deep in the cia ( but didn't realize hunt was the one who captured lane who is in cohorts with walker, unless walker was playing along) etc. why not try to work under hunley to get even closer to hunt than from the other end ( under sloan)? the lark character is another shitty plot device ( but that Chinese actor in the bathroom fight is badass!). if walker and lane have their eyes and ears everywhere, why need hunt to intercept lark for the nukes?...to make and then frame hunt for freeing lane as the goal, etc?...that is so brainless writing. Maybe if hunt cared more about the mission than individual members ( pretentious theme of this film) , the story would be less foggy and better to grasp at. The setup of lane and walker as linked and thinly ideologically complementing villains is strecthing and hinders an already a gimmicky storyline. Deal is, this movie could have lane and even walker achieving their goals without the IMF getting involved in the story ( though the excuse is that lane has this obsession with hunt that never was strongly set up even in RN, thus as i said intercepting lark to get the nukes from white widow is frigging nonsensical... and white widow works for the CIA ??, but how she's got one nuke from the apostles? so why not the CIA use her to lead them to the apostles and the remaining two nukes????). Better try for MI 7. The original Brian DePalma MI is far far far the best, a classic. Mcquarrie ain't no DePalma for sure. RN a distant second GP third. MI 3, MI 2 and Fallout are nutty.
nistel SE dude! You said everything i had scrambled in my head after leaving this film and wrote it down to a T so i could understand even my own thoughts. For me the only good thing about this film was the spectacle, which includes some of the best live action scenes ive ever seen in a movie, creds to that. However, the plot, pacing and characters of this movie is a god damn mess. Now, i will tell the truth... before this i have never seen a MI movie the whole way through.... only watched half of ghost protocol. As an outsider to me this film and this series is totally laughable, even Spectre was better than this..... the plot and action sequences made no god damn sense, even if they were cool as hell. Style over substance.... for me irl never pay to see another MI movie in the cinema again.
Please all stop saying its the best action movie...its not! Its crap...its not cgi fine its good...but the timings of the action and our hero escapes all of them..please....helicopter scenes were good to see..but physically not possible to achieve..especially in real world...bike chase in paris..wow what a scene..he doesnt know where to ride..goes opp directions of traffic without a scratch...cops coming all directions..finally he rams into a car...doesnt know what to do...runs on foot..jumps in a bush...uses knife to cut through a fountain mesh wire and escapes on boat below where the team was waiting..all thid planned in one night..how lame is that.. Also
..was hunt playing a video game to such a precision when in helicopter chase sequence..fuel check..air gauge check...what the heck...looked like first time piloting and to what precision...our bad guy gets hot oil on his face hanging from helicopter..and our hero is saved by hook timings...who writes such professional lines in movies..
couldn't agree more with you. I think the marketing brainwashed everybody. This installment was the worst of the series by far. Also Cruise's acting was beyond horrible. Bruce willis acting is better in death wish.
somchai shanabi i think its unfair to look for acting in such movies...its meant to market action fans...and i am an action fan and appreciate if its made good...the execution of the stunts looks fine in this movie...but its not the best by any means....reviewers are hailing this movie as best of this generation....its not...best action movies is john wick both parts...mad max fury road...and people are comparing this to such gems...please ...such paid rantings should stop!
RespectfullyI disagree. Look at mi3. The acting took it to another level. Look at Casino Royale, Matrix, Die hard first trilogy. I mean it doesn't have to be an oscar level acting but at least good enough to relate with the super-persona it presents. So my thing is that Cruise didn't sell the role in this one. He sold the stunts. But when you go to a movie you want to relate. Otherwise watch a documentary about stuntmen or Jackass or Jackie Chan and i guarantee you will get more. But really when i saw Cruise saying his first line to the bad guys "I am here for business" it felt like watching the old zombie (bruce) willis performing. Lol. For me landmark performances were the ones in Mi3. The opening scene is truly oscar worthy don't you think?
somchai shanabi what did Tom do or say or what made him such a bad actor. You just sound like you wanted to hate the movie from before you seen it. Like your a devils advocate. I’ve seen a lot of movies and a lot of bad acting. Your making it sound like Tom was tommy wiseue from the room. It wasn’t bad he’s 60 yrs and he’s a vet in mission impossible an old man putting in work. People change in 22yrs it’s not bad acting just a weathered man.
First of all let me clear something up. I love the MI franchise. And Tom cruise. But his acting on this one was just off. The story and script were at best mediocre and there is plenty evidence of that if you see the previous installments. It's clear when a movie is made just to make bucks and when a movie is made with passion and also make bucks. This one was the most terrible installment of this franchise by far. Rogue nation was 3 years ago. People don't change that much in 3 years. Especially actors that they are on the top of their game. Tom just didn't care so much about acting in this one. He is clearly bored. Just like the recent bruce willis.
The movie was the worst of the series.
somchai shanabi wow even worse than 2?????
Well i always like Tom Cruise and all this franchise so i was truly shocked.
It's kinda like a Cruise is trying to be more of a stuntman and less of an actor. The movie was the worst. Honestly i loved the second one.
yeah I get what you mean. To be honest I really admire the fact he does his own stunts especially when so much is CGI now but to each his own. How would you rank the series just out of interest?
It's the worst in my opinion. You see stunts are good but primarily you want him to put his energy on his acting. That high speed energy that makes you relate. I advise you to watch the first scene from mission impossible 3 to understand what i mean. I think that scene is one of the best tom cruise's acting bits. In this one (fallout) he just doesn't act. He looks more like a tired bruce willis. Also the humor falls flat. He keeps saying "i am sorry.." and "we will figure it out.." every 5 minutes. Please watch this link and then compare this acting with the one now. I would like him to do more acting and less stunts. ua-cam.com/video/kUx_RIAvVis/v-deo.html Look how it takes off after 2.27 Now compare that acting to the latest movie. He just doesn't act. He is like Cruise Willis.. Lol
Also watch this ua-cam.com/video/9aOWw4XBzJQ/v-deo.html