Which Politics Are Allowed in Football?

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  • Опубліковано 28 жов 2022
  • It's often said that football and politics shouldn't mix, despite the fact that the two exist in a symbiotic relationship and it is therefore impossible to separate them.
    What people often mean by the statement though, is that politics that they don't agree with and football shouldn't mix - whereas when it echoes their own views that is fine.
    So in this video, HITC Sevens takes a look at what politics are allowed in football and what politics isn't, who gets to make that decision, and whether there is ever a fair or reasonable way in which to determine that fact.
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  • @yunggekyume5393
    @yunggekyume5393 Рік тому +1492

    I love how this channel goes from rating club shop items to discussing politics within 2 days

    • @kaianhardman2869
      @kaianhardman2869 Рік тому +19

      Alfie just tryna be different

    • @jesuisunstroopwafel
      @jesuisunstroopwafel Рік тому +41

      That's why I love it.

    • @j4genius961
      @j4genius961 Рік тому +9

      It's called range

    • @joehartwell8910
      @joehartwell8910 Рік тому +14

      It's a crying shame that Alfie thinks he knows both what other people think, and better than those people.
      It's even sadder seeing people praise him for this. He does a good job with football research.
      When he does this the channel just becomes a place for clapping seals.

    • @kaianhardman2869
      @kaianhardman2869 Рік тому +3

      @@jesuisunstroopwafel Ik same I was jking

  • @IronHands17
    @IronHands17 Рік тому +1105

    Politics is allowed in football when it's aligned with the current political agenda

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 Рік тому +1

      True. This is why democracy can never be truly successful. The majority opinion decides the agenda. There is no conversation about right and wrong. It's a one size or rather one line of thinking fits all approach.

    • @johnny6448
      @johnny6448 Рік тому +16

      facts

    • @romanscerbak5167
      @romanscerbak5167 Рік тому

      @@johnny6448 stupidity

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Рік тому +33

      Which often shifts as he said at the end.

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 Рік тому +2

      As expected

  • @ahmedalaraby1371
    @ahmedalaraby1371 Рік тому +573

    Damn you really aren't holding back on the hypocrisy in media rn
    Respect!

    • @Tdr-jv2nc
      @Tdr-jv2nc Рік тому

      Media is what keeps us all divided

    • @ahmedalaraby1371
      @ahmedalaraby1371 Рік тому +3

      @@Tdr-jv2nc if we keep fighting each other then they are safe
      Pretty evil but pretty smart

    • @matttyce903
      @matttyce903 Рік тому +6

      @@ahmedalaraby1371 true, we all got the same enemy at the end of the day but they want us to be mad at eachother

    • @No-mn9do
      @No-mn9do Рік тому +1

      based roman flag pfp arabian

    • @Tdr-jv2nc
      @Tdr-jv2nc Рік тому +1

      @@ahmedalaraby1371 Very true mate!

  • @ethandalton6480
    @ethandalton6480 Рік тому +291

    The "keep politics out of football" people must have been fuming when Denmark won the European Championship

    • @georgetapia1010
      @georgetapia1010 Рік тому +3

      Why do you say that?

    • @mikipetreski9998
      @mikipetreski9998 Рік тому +87

      @@georgetapia1010 because yugoslavia got kicked out of the euros that year due to the civil war. Denmark got their place after that.

    • @georgetapia1010
      @georgetapia1010 Рік тому +7

      @@mikipetreski9998 oh yeah they got banned from the WC too if I'm not mistaken. But I had no idea that Denmark took their spot in Euro 92.

    • @mikipetreski9998
      @mikipetreski9998 Рік тому +11

      @@georgetapia1010 We were dissolved as a nation by the WC, none of the 7 countries competed for a couple of years after that

    • @gothicgolem2947
      @gothicgolem2947 Рік тому +4

      Denmark won the euros???

  • @hennimore1
    @hennimore1 Рік тому +29

    That’s were you’re wrong Alfie, Graelish is an avid Communist. He listens to the Soviet Union National Anthem on his Beats by Dre headphones before every game, and calls Pep a Bourgeoisie oppressor at every training session.

    • @benjammin9471
      @benjammin9471 Рік тому +7

      Probably listens during the game as well, he has plenty of time while sat on the bench

  • @Alfie_1
    @Alfie_1 Рік тому +177

    Ivan Toney has consistently refused to kneel before games, from the 20/21 mid-year break or so, because he thought that it is used by governments and organisations to show their support, whilst saying that they are making progress, but not actually changing anything fundamentally, and are more puppets. Interesting point, I thought.

    • @NomaHirudo
      @NomaHirudo Рік тому +64

      He has a point. Most corporations only pretend to care about racism while most governments continue to do nothing about systemic problems like this. Too bad some people just go with the vibe without understanding the problem, while other people simply believe the problem doesn’t exist

    • @Alfie_1
      @Alfie_1 Рік тому +3

      @@NomaHirudo Well said.

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 Рік тому +3

      @@NomaHirudo word

    • @c0222
      @c0222 Рік тому +7

      It started with good intentions but quickly decsended into virtue signalling.

    • @JimTheFly
      @JimTheFly Рік тому +5

      Kneeling was a protest that gained enough traction that deciding to NOT kneel became its own protest.

  • @pipwilson7435
    @pipwilson7435 Рік тому +174

    Great video essay! I've thought about this in relation to the Olympics before, and it seems to me that those who say politics should be kept out of sport are conveniently forgetting that ot speaking out on an issue is just as political as to speak out on an issue.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Рік тому +3

      Fantastic video, one of his best

    • @jamesrodriguez514
      @jamesrodriguez514 Рік тому +2

      There's nothing to forget. You are conveniently pretending that not speaking about politics means you're being political. You're wrong.

    • @pipwilson7435
      @pipwilson7435 Рік тому +3

      @@jamesrodriguez514 that's not quite what I mean. What I should have said is that when authorities try to say that we should keep politics out of sport, they are themselves making a political statement. Although of course the active decision not to speak is a political action. What it is saying is 'I care more about X than Y'. For instance, the IOC has a longstanding policy of athletes not making political statements. Before Tokyo 2020, the IOC had attempted to prevent athletes taking the knee despite professing to be against racism. Why is this then? Well presumably they felt that the cost to the IOC of athletes speaking out was greater than the benefits. That's a political decision. In the end they relented. UEFAs decision to prevent teams using the rainbow flag colours when playing Hungary during Euro 2020 is also illustrative of this. They prevented it on the grounds that it was a political statement. However, not allowing it was also a political statement. What it said was that they cared more about not upsetting the Hungarian Government than upholding the values UEFA claims to hold. Therefore, the choice not to do something is in itself political. There's so much more I could say about what politics actually is, but it's late and I need to get up in the morning.

    • @jamesrodriguez514
      @jamesrodriguez514 Рік тому +1

      @@pipwilson7435 Why does the IOC need to profess anything not related to sport? Does someone need to say they're against racism (or anything else), otherwise they're assumed to be for it? On the same note, UEFA's purpose isn't to hold any values not related directly to sport. These aren't political organizations, they don't represent the government. As far as I'm concerned, the IOC should've continued to prevent athletes from making political statements and UEFA should've prevented teams from using the rainbow flag at all, not only against Hungary. They also should've kept their mouth shut about political or social issues, since it's not their purpose to speak about it. They should've done this out of principle, but also because at some point in the future someone with the "wrong" politics might want to make a political statement and they'll forbid it. So, you get to a point where sports organizations allow you to make political statements as long as you agree with them.
      Just to make it clear, I'm talking about what should be, not what is. As you've already mentioned, these sports organizations have already made political statements and have allowed certain ideas to be propagated through them. What they do now is try to pretend that they aren't political, which makes them look hypocritical.
      I could also speak about how this all started, which is how a lot of these things happen: a slippery slope. After all, it's just a board that says "no racism", and we all agree with the idea, right? But, as always, that's not enough and you get to a point where if you don't repeat it constantly it means you're for it, not against it anymore.

    • @fgsaramago
      @fgsaramago Рік тому +1

      No, it isn't, that's a bit of a childish notion

  • @danemarwood3941
    @danemarwood3941 Рік тому +109

    In America this is simply decided by who our defense contractor’s largest client is at the time.

    • @lougiacobbi725
      @lougiacobbi725 Рік тому +2

      In America, it's being more and more defined by what Rupert Murdoch tells people to think, similar to the UK. The problem is the people that follow Murdoch media accept it as gospel and aren't capable of questioning what they are told to believe and support.

    • @idontexist1681
      @idontexist1681 Рік тому

      @@lougiacobbi725 murdoch is so evil that satan doesn't accept him into his hell

    • @Mk-jr8rg
      @Mk-jr8rg Рік тому

      If Russia was banned from the world cup then you clowns should have been banned ages ago along with all of the other nato countries for your atrocities against Iraq

    • @GooseGumlizzard
      @GooseGumlizzard 11 місяців тому +2

      nonsense

    • @nuudelz3711
      @nuudelz3711 8 місяців тому +1

      @@lougiacobbi725that’s cause his media companies continuously gaslight the watcher until they isn’t have a shred of their own thought left.

  • @cholst1
    @cholst1 Рік тому +29

    Anyone arguing that politics should be kept out of sport is pretty much just advocating for sport to be "bread and circuses" to keep the populace distracted. And for people competing in sports to be uncaring robots. Which hilariously is political in itself.

    • @matthewcoombs3282
      @matthewcoombs3282 Рік тому +4

      Who decides which politics are acceptable? My team Chelsea had politics on the terraces in the 1980s and it was racist far right politics. Best in my mind to keep most politics out of football. Sport is Bread and Circuses. Sorry to break it to you but Football has been a sector of Show Business for some time now. Most fans watch the game on pay for view.

    • @condimentofmassdestruction9114
      @condimentofmassdestruction9114 Рік тому

      @@matthewcoombs3282 Football was born out of politic.

    • @calansmith9561
      @calansmith9561 8 місяців тому

      helicopter rides are hilariously political.

  • @jacobe1074
    @jacobe1074 Рік тому +271

    Most based futbol youtuber strikes again. I am an Australian and right now we're going through an annoying culture war where angry boomers and pundits are dogpiling a specific netball player (who is Aboriginal) and her teammates for not wanting to wear the name of a racist on their kit as a sponsor logo. "Keep politics out of sport," they say, unaware of the fact that this is itself a political stance which allows things like racism, homophobia, and unethical sponsorships to go unchallenged. Everything is political.

    • @TunaStrata
      @TunaStrata Рік тому

      Is netball a slang for football in australia? Or is it entirely different sport? Just curious.

    • @LordGoose-zr6jj
      @LordGoose-zr6jj Рік тому +35

      @@TunaStrata Netball is a completely different sport, we play it here in the UK too and it's similar to basketball except for you can't move while holding the ball

    • @falconmclenny7284
      @falconmclenny7284 Рік тому +10

      What racist? I can tell by your carry on you're part of the problem here, but as an Australian who couldn't give a fark about netball, what's this all about?

    • @IronHands17
      @IronHands17 Рік тому +2

      How can I be homophobic my sponsors gay

    • @j4genius961
      @j4genius961 Рік тому +29

      @@falconmclenny7284 So you don't even know the situation but you've already decided that he's the problem? Alright

  • @Starkweather133
    @Starkweather133 Рік тому +23

    Personally I'm not convinced Jack Grealish can even read

  • @varunchand8546
    @varunchand8546 Рік тому +31

    My fear is that Alfie will never get the recognition he deserves as a phenomenal journalist (sports or otherwise) since he isn't affiliated to a big name... may the great work continue and I hope the power of social media demolishes if not assuages my fears!!!
    GO Alf!!!!!

    • @eavyeavy2864
      @eavyeavy2864 Рік тому

      Adhd

    • @Mk-jr8rg
      @Mk-jr8rg Рік тому +1

      He doesn't deserve any recognition, he fails to mention how the us, uk and other nato countries should have been banned from everything for invading iraq which was far more devastating than what's happening in ukraine

    • @naoyanaraharjo4693
      @naoyanaraharjo4693 Місяць тому

      ​@@Mk-jr8rgby that definition. Russia(legal successor of USSR) too should be banned for invading Afghanistan
      The same applies with China for its war against Vietnam that only tried to liberate Cambodia from Pol Pot's insanity
      Shit, by this logic Pakistan, India, Iran, Iraq, Turkey and Greece cant join due to existing/conflicts post WW2

  • @westshorebassfishing3205
    @westshorebassfishing3205 Рік тому +134

    Alfie is one of the few pundits that has the talent to use a broad scope of topics and keep it football centric. 👌

    • @mumar7867
      @mumar7867 Рік тому

      Random question, is this the fella who used to do vids with footballs in the background?

  • @lfscelt
    @lfscelt Рік тому +177

    Well done yet again Alfie. If only the masses could understand the reality of this message. This is a very good video that highlights the Murdoch media and agenda based media that we are fed. Sadly, money and political power will project what they want the masses to know or care about. Keep up the good work mate.

    • @robinhazell6019
      @robinhazell6019 Рік тому +1

      Well said. Grat comment.

    • @mancunioner
      @mancunioner Рік тому

      Except its all left wing propaganda now

    • @changebegins6891
      @changebegins6891 Рік тому

      I agree. The way the media pushes BLM, Extinction Rebellion and other communist based political movements is a joke. It's so 1 sided and biased. Basically your political movement is ok as long as it's woke, left wing nonsense

    • @ryanwilliams8750
      @ryanwilliams8750 Рік тому +2

      Yeah well said my friend. Rupert Murdoch has his grubby hands in almost all local news in the United States. Basically gives him free reign to send the networks certain talking points. Then it allows people like John Oliver to gather all those clips and show the people watching that there's a chance even your local news channel is being heavily influenced by people like Murdoch.

    • @petesmart1983
      @petesmart1983 Рік тому

      Murdoch media is actually far right and very pro putin

  • @brianpenney7
    @brianpenney7 Рік тому +69

    Great job on a tricky subject Alfie. Best pundit on UA-cam in my humble opinion.

    • @UncledadBFD
      @UncledadBFD Рік тому +3

      Consistently excellent.

    • @c0222
      @c0222 Рік тому +1

      If we're being honest it isn't a tricky issure, the people who want certain flags banned from games but are fans of others are just idiots and hypocrits.

  • @Jojo.R.Chipelago
    @Jojo.R.Chipelago Рік тому +19

    I'm so happy to have someone like aflie putting out this content so frequently. Football needed this.

  • @jasoncampbell293
    @jasoncampbell293 Рік тому +67

    Your average English fan won't like listening to this. Well done Alfie, as I've said before, more English fans need to have your ability to critically think

    • @Glory-Compass
      @Glory-Compass Рік тому +9

      Correction: More European Fans

    • @theemperor6413
      @theemperor6413 Рік тому +2

      Not just English fans

    • @jasoncampbell293
      @jasoncampbell293 Рік тому +3

      @@theemperor6413 most teams around the world do involve politics in football. England is the outlier in that and as Alfie is English and therefore his videos are from an English persons perspective, hence me saying that English fans won’t like it.

    • @jasoncampbell293
      @jasoncampbell293 Рік тому +4

      @@Glory-Compass all across Europe football and politics are intertwined. Simply look around most European stadiums and you will see something political somewhere. Whether it be right wing or left wing. It is there and far more prominent than in England

    • @TristanCCFC
      @TristanCCFC Рік тому +1

      I had to search far and wide to find a football club that was openly anti-fascist.
      Meanwhile, I heard racism, homophobia, transphobia and sexism at nearly every premier league ground.
      Politics of the status quo is alive in football, we just don't have any St Pauli, Rayo, Europa, Celtic to actively counter it.

  • @winglessmecha
    @winglessmecha Рік тому +6

    "All lives are equal but some lives are more equal than others"

  • @andrewplatt7452
    @andrewplatt7452 Рік тому +14

    ive been watching you for years but never commented but let me say that what you do is amazing. just doing your passion, following your interest, its brilliant to come home to after a twelve hour shift. doing well brother keep em coming. you're a smart, intellectual and articulate.

  • @Finn_Lawless
    @Finn_Lawless 2 місяці тому +4

    I'm re-watching this video after however long. It has aged well and is eternally relevant. I don't know if Alfie will read this, but I hope he never stops producing such content.
    Freedom for Palestine. Up the Bohs.

  • @SothangelSoph
    @SothangelSoph Рік тому +8

    Quality content as always - Congratulations on half a million!

  • @fraz5786
    @fraz5786 Рік тому +6

    My dude you are one of the most talented people in football journalism rn, fantastic video

  • @hahahadavidfisher
    @hahahadavidfisher Рік тому +22

    I love Alfies channel for videos like this but i mainly watch out for the 'however' 'whatsmore' and 'without further adieu' moments which only fans who've watched many of his videos understand and first time viewers should watch out for xD

  • @danielpeat2396
    @danielpeat2396 Рік тому +5

    This is your best video yet Alfie. fantastic work

  • @adamfysh-foskett961
    @adamfysh-foskett961 Рік тому +4

    I found your channel because I am trying to digest more of things I like - such as football - and less of things that make me angry - such as politics - and then I come across this!
    Great video. Your point about how others' politics is 'political' whereas one's own is just 'common sense' struck a chord. I also remember thinking how the mass Ukraine solidarity post-invasion should have felt good, but something felt slightly off given the criticism of players offering Palestinian solidarity just months earlier. You suggest there are no easy solutions and I agree.
    For what it's worth, I for one would love to see Jack Grealish break the footballer-turned-writer stereotype of going down the children's books route, and instead penning a critique of Das Kapital...

  • @und3rcut535
    @und3rcut535 Рік тому +6

    bro this video was AMAZING. your comments and observations were s on point. I now have a different level of respect for you.

  • @ThePikachuThing
    @ThePikachuThing Рік тому +11

    as usual, Alfie shoots and scores, excellent content

  • @FisherAthleticFan
    @FisherAthleticFan Рік тому +2

    Told my mate Alfie is a good UA-camr just gotta be in the mood for some of his content. This video here wets my appetite

  • @narendrapanse7844
    @narendrapanse7844 Рік тому +2

    An outstanding piece - your best by far, if i may say so. Respect!

  • @arzhi_azis
    @arzhi_azis Рік тому +16

    Day 341: Indonesia XI If All Eligible Players Had Declared For Them.

  • @christianspanggaard
    @christianspanggaard Рік тому +22

    As per usual. You are on point, Alfie. This content is incredibly important!

  • @manugame100
    @manugame100 Рік тому +4

    Another top video Alfie! Video suggestion: most overvalued football club sponsorships.

  • @Nevermindwhat2358
    @Nevermindwhat2358 Рік тому +12

    Alfie, do a video on Hapoel Jerusalem. They are the polar opposite of Beitar Jerusalem, in terms of politics, and they're doing well in the league.

  • @RyuzakiTaiyou
    @RyuzakiTaiyou Рік тому +27

    Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 403)
    I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored.
    If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.

    • @BALHAM69
      @BALHAM69 Рік тому

      Name seven you think should be on there? Michael Ballack, Jens Lehmann the goalkeeper are two i would say should be😊

    • @thefutbolfollower8326
      @thefutbolfollower8326 Рік тому

      Nobody cares, blimey.

    • @cage94123567890
      @cage94123567890 Рік тому +4

      Kind of shit to make a video just about Timo Werner, no?

  • @mouthpiece806
    @mouthpiece806 Рік тому

    been waiting for somebody to make a video like this!

  • @e7r0m6
    @e7r0m6 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for bringing up this more than necessary subject. Cheers!

  • @footballhipster
    @footballhipster Рік тому +7

    Politics is like an octopus; no matter how hard you try, it will always find a way to stick its nose in anything.

    • @JPayne95
      @JPayne95 Рік тому +1

      Octopus noses are always getting in my business 🙄

  • @badjujuforever
    @badjujuforever Рік тому +12

    its 6pm on a Saturday (Australia time) ive cracked open a johnnie walker and im 4 bongs deep. perfect time for a hitc video. i love you alfie

    • @falconmclenny7284
      @falconmclenny7284 Рік тому

      Johnnys and billy bobs, is there a better combination?

    • @badjujuforever
      @badjujuforever Рік тому

      @@falconmclenny7284 captain morgan is doing a better job now 😂 or as I call it, captain cones

    • @falconmclenny7284
      @falconmclenny7284 Рік тому

      @@badjujuforever the captain can get very messy after a while, watch him.

  • @grogeevee
    @grogeevee 8 місяців тому +3

    Makes the think of when Merih Demiral got demonized for doing a soldier salute in support of the Turkish army fighting terrorists. If he did it for Ukraine then everyone would cheer and praise.

  • @JoDyMa
    @JoDyMa Рік тому +7

    DAY 7: Hey Alfie, could you do a video on the life, career, controversies and tragedy of Justin Fashanu. It'd be your best video yet and it's a criminally underheard story. ❤️

  • @Nazzazzaable
    @Nazzazzaable Рік тому +8

    A very much needed video 🔥

  • @Inveterate-introvert
    @Inveterate-introvert 5 місяців тому +3

    I always laugh at the people who say keep politics out of football when they talk about the rainbow armbands, then applaud players who refuse to wear them for religious reasons (which I'm fine with, although I wouldn't address it with a laugh emoji). But the very same people get pissed off about James McClean refusing to wear a poppy. If it's fine to not wear a rainbow armband it should be fine to not wear a poppy. It's not fair to equate one thing as political and the other as apolitical because it suits your world view. Because neither are overtly political. They're adjacent to political viewpoints.

  • @sahalhamud8824
    @sahalhamud8824 Рік тому +7

    One of the realist and outstanding channel ❤️

  • @ninanano
    @ninanano 3 місяці тому

    I’ve been watching your videos for a while but this video alone, I have to finally subscribe to your channel. I haven’t even finished watching the video yet!

  • @dantespina7398
    @dantespina7398 Рік тому +9

    best hitc sevens video ever??

  • @coleparke3763
    @coleparke3763 Рік тому +4

    Very insightful video. It’s a shame how clubs will ban certain political messages but be allowed to sell weird branded RC range rovers in their stores. We really live in a society.

  • @basitsnake
    @basitsnake Рік тому +1

    Amazingly put as always Alfie

  • @mundea
    @mundea Рік тому +7

    Brilliant video, really enjoyed it

  • @conorf1995
    @conorf1995 Рік тому +2

    an important topic, love that you speak on divisive issues

  • @AvrilAlvarez
    @AvrilAlvarez Рік тому +5

    Truth is, flying the union jack at a football match and singing god save the queen is political. It's just as political as flying a Palestinian flag at a match

  • @ehiokioyajoshuauyiosa6188
    @ehiokioyajoshuauyiosa6188 Рік тому +1

    I love this channel. Great work

  • @sietsedegroot5198
    @sietsedegroot5198 Рік тому +1

    Once again a great video! Keep it up

  • @thegloriouspyrocheems2277
    @thegloriouspyrocheems2277 Рік тому +4

    Day 73 - The Fall and Rise of FK Velež Mostar
    From a Club that has beaten Borussia Dortmund, Twente, Derby County and many others to a club that was forced from their own stadium, reduced to nothing during the Bosnian War, becoming a mediocre top-level team in the 00s to nearly being forced into folding in 2016 to its amazing comeback to European competitions in 2021 seeing the early exit of Greek giants AEK Athens in a sensational win in Athens!

  • @John-gx2ry
    @John-gx2ry Рік тому +45

    Excellent video Alfie. This insidious approach to " politics in football " needs to be called out more. Well said👏👏👏

  • @SonicAvalanche
    @SonicAvalanche Рік тому +1

    You've been knocking them out the park lately

  • @fgsaramago
    @fgsaramago Рік тому +1

    In Portugal, for the team's friendly before the world cup, people were barred from entering with Amnesty International shirts that were being handed out outside the stadium in an action sponsored by one of the national team's sponsors. FIFA explicitly told match organizers people would not be able to enter with those shirts on. Said shirts, had nothing written on them except for an Amnesty International logo

  • @rijadmuric7619
    @rijadmuric7619 Рік тому +7

    Finally, someone from "the west" pointed out the westerners' hipocrisy considering Palestine, in light of war in Ukraine. Thank you ❤

  • @rizka7945
    @rizka7945 Рік тому +3

    Farage isn't saying that there shouldn't be politicians in football. He is only saying that there shouldn't be any politics there.

  • @abdulsamadissa4177
    @abdulsamadissa4177 Рік тому

    The way you dissected this video is amazing

  • @rahmatramadhan9874
    @rahmatramadhan9874 Рік тому +1

    Banger video as always, Alfie.

  • @PL7802
    @PL7802 Рік тому +3

    A coherent and well thought through attempt to tackle a difficult and complex issue.
    Kudos.

  • @daoudnawaz
    @daoudnawaz Рік тому +26

    Alfie 👏🏼 The manner in which you dissected the issue was fantastic. Seeing the way the football world responded to the invasion of Ukraine was heartwarming yet also saddening. As the voices of the people of Palestine, Xinjiang and Yemen could too have been elevated yet were silenced. Great video

  • @bnorris8625
    @bnorris8625 Рік тому

    Really reasonable and balanced approached Alfie well done

  • @trex8930
    @trex8930 Рік тому +1

    Top video. Well done man

  • @XLRAshon
    @XLRAshon Рік тому +22

    as an American this topic is starting to increase more and more in soccer/football. This has always been around in our more popular sports but not soccer. Historically soccer in America has been enjoyed mostly by people with left leaning ideologies so they would hang up rainbow flags, black lives matter, etc without any push back. But in recent years with the sport gaining more and more popularity, right leaning people are coming into the sport and not liking it.
    I'm more in the camp of letting all politics be displayed and let the clubs themselves dictate what they and the fans can or can't do and the league have 0 say. Cause often the case here the supporters will meet with the club and discuss ideas and what the fans want to display and the owners will either be okay or not about the situation.
    but yes, anyone who thinks politics have no place in soccer, or any sport has lost the plot. they always have and always will be tied together

    • @jamescarlile4279
      @jamescarlile4279 Рік тому +3

      At least that would be consistent. The problem we have in Australia is that only liberal politics is aloud, conservative views have literally gotten people fired. If you're going to allow politics, you have to allow everything. If you're not prepared to allow everything, then you allow nothing.

    • @waifubreaks1572
      @waifubreaks1572 Рік тому +2

      I support Mexico over the US, the US team does shit like displaying the rainbow flag and BLM stuff. I'd much rather support Mexico.

    • @smokeymcpot1799
      @smokeymcpot1799 8 місяців тому

      @@waifubreaks1572 I hate to break it to you but both countries are controlled by the same people. 4 letters long, starts with a J, plural, and describes the people responsible for the world's problems.

  • @96wtfomg
    @96wtfomg Рік тому +7

    Thanks for pointing it out. It's as you said, YOUR politics should not be allowed, mine are allowed.
    To be honest, I think the concept of National Teams in itself is a political concept to some degree. So how can they keep saying "don't involve politics and sport"

    • @tianyue5814
      @tianyue5814 Рік тому

      Great point! The beauty of football, sports is to support local community, people in the country, connect with people, communities in other places, create understanding, harmony, regardless of place, country, religion, gender, ability, etc.. But many people use it to justify nationalism, tribalism, their unconscious, egotistical expression of anger, hatred, bias, discrimination violence towards other people. It's like technology, the internet, UA-cam, one can use it for the positive, higher purpose or for the unconscious.
      It'll be amazing if footballers of different places, mixed genders just play football in a team, in tournaments. I like refugee football teams, Forest Green Rovers who is into veganism and sustainability. Great to know thru this video that FGR also supports Palestine! Thanks to Alfie for this great video! All the best! :)

  • @georgigeorgiev4871
    @georgigeorgiev4871 11 місяців тому

    Congratulations over starting such an important, although deeply controversial debate. You did your best to be objective and that's admirable.

  • @Hilversumborn
    @Hilversumborn Рік тому

    Another amazing video Alfie

  • @thefutbolfollower8326
    @thefutbolfollower8326 Рік тому +11

    All politics should be allowed. It’s impossible to separate anything from politics, let alone sport, which has a lot of financial power involved, If someone like Ronaldo says he’s a Marxist-Leninist his cultist followers will follow through, and of course there’s the whole FIFA and UEFA thing which is all about economics. And besides, everyone should be talking about these things, why not? “Stick to football” is so ridiculous, why can’t footballers voice their opinion, like everyone can? It reminds me of the Candace Owens video where she talks about how no one cares about how celebrities think, which is ridiculous, many care, and why shouldn’t celebrities voice their opinions? Obviously, genocide denial and such is too much, but just the support of a political party, a policy, or an organization is fine by all means.

    • @vegan4life660
      @vegan4life660 Рік тому

      Lol

    • @falconmclenny7284
      @falconmclenny7284 Рік тому

      Because they are footballers, which means they are probably stupid, and they are rich, and therefor out of touch, so they should shut the fark up and kick the ball.

    • @thefutbolfollower8326
      @thefutbolfollower8326 Рік тому

      @@falconmclenny7284 Then say the same about musicians, artists, authors, other sportspeople and basically anyone who is rich and could be clueless. It’s just ridiculous, there’s no other way but to let them do as they wish.

    • @falconmclenny7284
      @falconmclenny7284 Рік тому

      @@thefutbolfollower8326 no they don't. Music is meant to have a message. Art is meant to have a message. Football is meant to be a sporting contest, nothing more.

    • @thefutbolfollower8326
      @thefutbolfollower8326 Рік тому +1

      @@falconmclenny7284 Football celebrations are meant to have a message ffs.

  • @morestupidforms
    @morestupidforms Рік тому +5

    Sports washing is perfectly fine in football. Protesting against said sports washers, however, is not.

  • @Mark-uh3un
    @Mark-uh3un Рік тому

    Another absolutely amazing video

  • @ferasalmadhagi2188
    @ferasalmadhagi2188 Рік тому +3

    Lovely Video and really well said. As a kid I always thought that football had no place for politics but since the ukraine war I was completely puzzled with the hypocritical side of football. I was born and lived most my life in Yemen which has been under bombardment of the saudian coalition that is supported by the whole of Europe!!.

    • @petesmart1983
      @petesmart1983 Рік тому

      Biggest problem is that Saudi and other countries around that area rarely let any media or news escape there country's. So we rarely here things as there governments control the news

    • @fatdaddy1996
      @fatdaddy1996 Рік тому

      Pete that's just not true. Anybody who doesn't live under a rock knows about Yemen.

    • @fgsaramago
      @fgsaramago Рік тому

      Its definitely not supported by the whole of Europe. That's false

  • @leemcdonald1342
    @leemcdonald1342 Рік тому +3

    Video idea:
    7 most inluential formations in association football history.

  • @rustom1981
    @rustom1981 Рік тому +1

    As you said ( people with power will say what is the low & what can be accepted what not ) 💔 god bless everyone ❤️

  • @abdullahmoiz8151
    @abdullahmoiz8151 Рік тому

    Another terrific video Alfie

  • @sielnachtt
    @sielnachtt Рік тому +4

    i love your channel! you have to be the most based football youtuber out there

  • @shannonballspen1s482
    @shannonballspen1s482 Рік тому +10

    Alfie youre the most unbiased, hardest working man on youtube. I never dont watch ur vids. All the love from UK Jr. USA

    • @shukuchimukyo892
      @shukuchimukyo892 Рік тому +4

      "unbiased" lmaoooooooo

    • @shannonballspen1s482
      @shannonballspen1s482 Рік тому

      @@shukuchimukyo892 whats biased? To you mate? Im curious

    • @rt20089
      @rt20089 Рік тому +2

      @@shukuchimukyo892 supporting Ukraine is not a biased thing but doing the same for Palestine is biased for you?Yeaahh.I smell some obvious 'double standard '.

    • @szymonlechdzieciol
      @szymonlechdzieciol Рік тому

      @@rt20089 No it's more than whole Alfie video while polite and elaborate clearly betray his political/sociological/ethical views on the case.

  • @mohammedal-ogaidi1411
    @mohammedal-ogaidi1411 Рік тому

    Thank You for making this video

  • @mikeeroony6683
    @mikeeroony6683 Рік тому +2

    Alfie huge respect dude you're one of a few that touch on this subject

  • @ryanwilliams8750
    @ryanwilliams8750 Рік тому +12

    Its a valid question that many brought up when the war in Ukraine started. The problem is people look at you as if you don't care about Ukraine. Of course we care about Ukraine... but we should also be utilizing the same amount of support for Palestine, Yemen, Ethiopia and Myanmar. Theres an underlying factor here and sadly you guessed it if you know anything about those countries, its race. Unfortunately those countries are mostly black and brown and to stuck up racists in the west are "too far away to matter or care" which is just abhorrent. Some do it subconsciously, you see it in the media with reports like "this is different, this is Europe this isn't far away like the Middle East." Its awful that they come out and just say it and there's no repercussions. Because I believe more and more every day that the USA is has a major white supremacy problem. Not sure about the UK but I know its still a bit prominent there as well. Not sure how long its going to take until they are a really small minority and then extinguished. If you read all of this my goodness youre a legend.

    • @vegan4life660
      @vegan4life660 Рік тому +7

      Follow the money, the UK n US fund/profit from those wars/genocides.

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 Рік тому

      Well said

    • @jannetkasiroori9224
      @jannetkasiroori9224 Рік тому

      True

    • @bjehulk
      @bjehulk Рік тому

      The USA most certainly does not have a white supremacy problem 😂 can you give any shred of proof for that?

    • @bjehulk
      @bjehulk Рік тому +1

      “We care about Ukraine?” Who’s “we?” 😂😂

  • @jimbob-robob
    @jimbob-robob Рік тому +11

    WELL SAID ALFIE!
    Those who say keep politics out of sport just don't like a specific type of politics showing up as it already has a default brand of politics deeply built in...(free market centre right)...awesome 👍🖖✊️

  • @manning0
    @manning0 7 місяців тому +2

    Coming back to this episode as it seems to be a current cause of controversy at Celtic

  • @AfroChilanGringo
    @AfroChilanGringo Рік тому +2

    Again you hit a homerun! Your channel is the best mate!

  • @Cozystuff
    @Cozystuff Рік тому +1

    what a great video Alfie!!!!!! :)

  • @aOx666
    @aOx666 Рік тому +3

    One could make an argument that supporting a football club is political in its self

  • @duane8228
    @duane8228 Рік тому +6

    Good episode. Now poppy season is nearly here how about doing an episode on James McClean

    • @petesmart1983
      @petesmart1983 Рік тому +1

      James McLean is pretty easy it was bloody Sunday were English troops murdered civilians ,children and other innocents. He grew up in that area. Why should he support people who murdered his family and friends family's

    • @duane8228
      @duane8228 Рік тому

      @@petesmart1983 I agree. As someone who grew up in the Bogside & who's parents grew up in Creggan (where James is from) I would like to see what would be said about the reason he's taken his stance because for some reason a lot of people in Britain don't seem to understand or don't think the army done anything wrong.

  • @DaveyJesusisFcking
    @DaveyJesusisFcking Рік тому +4

    Fun fact about American Football and I'm sure all the other leagues: the reason we have the national anthem at sports events is that the military pays the league to do it.

  • @shainemillward257
    @shainemillward257 Рік тому +1

    Excellent work 👏👏👏

  • @Clockendmo
    @Clockendmo Рік тому

    Respect! 💯
    Just subbed to your personal channel

  • @grokopf142
    @grokopf142 Рік тому +2

    great vid mate, the hypocrisy goes over so many peoples heads

  • @BALHAM69
    @BALHAM69 Рік тому +48

    a documentary on the afc Wimbledon on the nine promotions in eleven years, how they’re a fan own club and how they have a stadium in plough lane now.
    The story of they lost the club, how the F A allowed that and won’t allow that anymore.
    How they were very close to moving to ireland
    How they went up the English football leagues.
    It would be a good documentary video if you can do this. #thepeopleschannel

    • @mrmorrison5142
      @mrmorrison5142 Рік тому +6

      I feel as though I have read this message on multiple comment sections of this page

    • @DabDabGoose
      @DabDabGoose Рік тому +4

      @@mrmorrison5142 it's everytime lol

    • @yoavcohen2218
      @yoavcohen2218 Рік тому

      there are loads of those vids on UA-cam which is why Alfie might not want to do it

  • @Ugly_Peace
    @Ugly_Peace Рік тому

    You really smart mate. Kudos to you and your team.

  • @ACBlackJ0ck
    @ACBlackJ0ck Рік тому +1

    I remember being curious enough to watch United Passions (the movie FIFA made to tell people how superbly great FIFA is and how Sepp Blatter is the second coming of Jesus), and during that movie one of the reasons they stated as to why FIFA is better than the IOC (as if that's any standard) is because "The Olympics are political, the World Cup is people!", THE VERY NEXT SCENE when talking about Apartheid South Africa wanting to host the World Cup: "The South Africans are telling me 'Keep politics out of sport'. It's impossible! Politics and sport are inseparable.". 10/10 writing right there

  • @the_one_the_only4651
    @the_one_the_only4651 Рік тому +37

    Do a documentary on the San Marino 🇸🇲 national football team and their history. Loving ❤ the content.

    • @bababababababa6124
      @bababababababa6124 Рік тому +2

      Need this video

    • @BOABModels
      @BOABModels Рік тому +4

      Look up a channel called the Tim Traveller - he did some great videos watching football in San Marino.

    • @stewartellinson8846
      @stewartellinson8846 Рік тому +1

      Why aren't they better????????? Surely San marinese grandparents are everywhere in Italy.....

  • @neilefc877
    @neilefc877 Рік тому +3

    Very interesting video. In my opinion, its essentially a question of whether or not the governing football body, beit the FA or UEFA, have invested interest in the politics being displayed. Open support for the Ukraine as a result of the "Russian Invasion" (despite the fact that a war was waging for nearly 10 years and the Ukrainians are anything but a force for good in the region) was always going to garner support from British and Western football, whereas there is little profit in open support for Palestine from a Western perspective.
    Regaridng LGBTQ support, this is imo not politics and will likely give great comfort to young people who may be struggling with their sexuality.

  • @MattOlsen294
    @MattOlsen294 Рік тому +94

    I am so thrilled that Alfie made this video. Sport is inherently political, and should always be used as a tool for change.

    • @lalitthapa101
      @lalitthapa101 Рік тому +24

      Just like media,sports is also a tool which can be beneficial for progressive change. Let's not forget pioneers like Jesse Owens & Muhammad Ali used sports as a medium to fight the bigotry of their time(something that unfortunately still remains)

    • @bababababababa6124
      @bababababababa6124 Рік тому +7

      “Free Palestine 🇵🇸 ❤️”
      *r@cist sports fans* - “no too political 😢”
      “Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦💙💛”
      *r@cist sports fans* - “💙💛”

    • @Strangegloves
      @Strangegloves Рік тому

      @@lalitthapa101 2

    • @Strangegloves
      @Strangegloves Рік тому

      6

    • @oussamabr5851
      @oussamabr5851 Рік тому +2

      How do you define the line between 'change' and 'propaganda'?
      If China uses football to promote a message, would it be propaganda or change? What if England does it, is it again propaganda or change?

  • @rasmusforchhammer9557
    @rasmusforchhammer9557 5 місяців тому +1

    Genuinely the best football channel on here

  • @fgsaramago
    @fgsaramago Рік тому +1

    13:55 I seriously question that poll. Here in Portugal not only no one did it in any sports event, most people won't even know what "taking the knee" is. Furthermore, its a major scandal whenever some football player doesn't sing the anthem loud enough or they dont seem to do so with enough conviction, let alone if they were doing those kinds of protests

  • @zenokada2278
    @zenokada2278 Рік тому +2

    The difference in higher level football is does it make money and increase approval or not 😊

  • @Rassalcon
    @Rassalcon Рік тому +4

    The bi joke at 12:53 made me choke on my hot chocolate