243 VS 270 - Shooting Steel and Sighting in
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love your channel man,really down to earth,your alright.
Hey I really appreciate that. Im just a regular dude. Nothin fake or fance
WHO_TEE_WHO When you look through the barrel to bore sight in you turn the dials in the opposite way, but when you look through the scope to then actually sight it in while shooting turn the dials the way as indicated.
Yes I know this sounds funny but that's how it works out. when looking threw a barrel to bore sight LOL
Plus hit the top of the turret after every adjustment to make sure the cross hairs move.
just a suggestion.
THANK you SO much for making me laugh. There are some great gun channels out there, but not many of them are REAL LIFE. This is what happens to Real Guys all the time.
I am in the process of catching up on your videos.
People probably ask you all the time, but is your name from The Andy Griffith Show??
Thanks!
Thank you so much for watching! Not from the Andy Griffith show, but I have since had several people tell me about that episode. Ha!
LMAO... You made me laugh so hard on that second shot after thinking the dials were backwards! I have to say, I've had days like that myself. I like how you don't edit stuff like that out. Shows that you are a normal everyday dude like me. Not one of those guys that wants everyone to think you know it all and are never wrong.
Oh i screw up every day. Ha!
😂🤣😅 great video
Right there with ya. 😂
Maybe i'm loosing my mind 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Thank you! 270 rocks! You would enjoy reading Jack O’Connor’s books, if you haven’t already. He hunted all over the world with both the 30-06 and 270.
"I'm not too worried about bein scientific" 🤣😂😂 F@CKIN LOVE this guy!!! Lol.... I'm a fellow gun lover, down in Florida.... and for some reason i cannot stop watching these "Who Tee Who" videos!! I love how honest he is while shooting!! Most guys act like they never miss, or never make a mistake.... not this guy, he gives us an "honest, average Joe" look at how it is! Good stuff Hooty!! Lol keep it up
Hey Michael! I really appreciate that
I have been using my 243 for deer and elk for years now and have never lost any, 6 deer and 4 elk over last 8 years here in northern Montana. Good video.
In Australia very one loves the 30.06, but I would never discredit the flat shooting, knockdown power of the .270. Thanks for your video. Cheers
You keep making em and we'll keep watching em. Cause we like it like that.
Thanks Larry
Love both rifles. Have the Remington ADL in the .243 and the BDL in the .270. Killed over 50 deer with the .243. Killed 100 groundhogs in one summer. Deadly rifle. .270 taken a lot with it as well.
Man 2 uploads in one morning. The big 50 bmg then the sighting in of the 270 and the 243. Its like Christmas in October. How lucky can a guy get. Fat kids n cake come to mind. Who-tee-who keep em rollin
😆😆😆 thanks for watching Tom
When sighting in I always allow the barrel to cool for 5 minutes in between shots. It gives more group consistency and saves ammo. Thanks again!
Very smart, I guess it depends on the ambient temperature but 5min seems like quite a bit of time for just one shot? But very smart heat and metal have weird relationship
I own a 243 and a 270. I live in North Dakota and the 270 is my go to deer gun. I honestly believe it’s 99% shot distance and placement of the shot. Who Tee Who....You are by far the best video maker on UA-cam. Keep them coming bro, and I sir will continue watching.
Hey I really appreciate the kind words. Means a lot
Agreed I use a Schultz and Larsen .270 that round with proper placement will drop anything breathing.
The turrets are not backwards they are designed to make it seem like you are moving the bullet, it is that way on all scopes even 2,000 dollar vortex optics
Sand burr Rifle works like I said he has no business making shooting videos lol
Some the assembled in China or made, whatever are actually backwards...I’ve heard many guntubers mention it. And I’ve ran into it with my Romeo red dots
Clockwise pushes the bullet, CCW pulls the bullet. That's how I remember.
When you bore sight it will appear to be backwards because your normally adjusting for bullets (up to go down) versus crosshairs (up to go up)
Read some of Jack O’Conners books on the .270. Great caliber!
amazing cartridge bro.
Glad I’m not the only one who gets my scope adjustments backwards, lol.😊. I think I do it once on every scope.
270 gets meat year after year and would not bust your shoulder !!
They don’t kick much at all i don’t know what your talking about. I guess pussies shouldn’t shoot guns
knownknot I like both calibers but for white tails a .243 is my choice. Deer ain’t difficult animals to kill if you have any marksmanship skills at all. If I deer hunted in parts of the country that had potential man eaters roaming the woods I’d step up to the .270. That’s a no brainer. I don’t see it as one or the other. I love them both. It’s just that here in the Southeast where I hunt the .243 or 7mm-08 make more sense. With urban sprawl being what it is along the I-85 corridor here I can see the age of shotguns only coming within the next 25-30 years.
@username unknown i just bought a 270 not too bad i have shoulder surgery so i use a memory foam pad absorbs most of the recoil :D
Nice guns & my 2 favorite high caliber hunting rounds. Both my .270 & .243 rifles are single shot. WHY you ask? Because that's all I've ever needed. Take care & thanks for ALL of the videos you share with us.
I find it better quality to go practice shooting on PlayStation and then go to Costco to pickup the meat
Fine if you want runof the mill meat,kind of hard to buy antelope,bear ,mountain goat ,buffalo, venison etc at Cosco's,
Fresh air
I reload both of those calibers. It amazed me how unpicky the .270 is to come up with a load. The range of bullet weights it shots is impressive.
Never underestimate the power of a .270 win awesome gun. Also don't underestimate the power of a .243 win arguably one of the best deer rifles. Both are extremely great cartridges especially for medium sized game
The .243 doesn't need the knock down power. It explodes on contact. Way bigger wound channel and you have to plan for that. I shoot the head shots with my .243 out to 200 yards. Very satisfiying to see a head explode through my scope after a slight delay.
You can't go wrong with either on deer brother. The .243 may not carry the same energy as the .270, but deer don't know the difference. In the past two seasons I've dropped 6 whitetail and 3 hogs with it. Only one ran more than twenty yards before dropping. The others drop were they stood. That was with 95 grain Federal Fusion. I prefer my .308, but feel pretty good running around the woods with a .243.
Right on. One day we need to get together and have some fun
@@WHOTEEWHO I need to head that way one of these days You're just a few more hours past my hometown of Fort Smith, Ar.. I think we'd have a blast brother.
That would be a lot of fun. Shot the 50bmg some today
I know out to 400yds (It's been the furthest shot I got to make here in the Mtns of PA) the 243 will drop them before they knew what happened.Hit those brown bastards within the 1st 3 vertebra of the head and it's night night Gracie 1st shot every time.
Rem 788 w/Sierra 100gr #1560 Spitzer Boat Tail
easy to remember scope Elevation Clockwise = Down - Counter Clockwise = UP , Windage Clockwise= LEFT , Counter Clockwise= RIGHT
Your supposed to move the crosshairs to the bullet you was moving the bullet to the crosshairs
Chris miller is correct.
The adjustment directions are for bullet impact not crosshair movement. The scope is labeled correctly. Example- move the horizontal down and bullet impact comes up.
No excuses now......if you miss....it's WHOTEEWHO!!!!!
True story! 🤣
I used to have a pre 64 Winchester Model 70 in .264 magnum. The ballistics on that monster were virtually NO DROP at 100 yards!
Probably one of the best rounds ever made
When you bore sight a scope the directions are opposite lol
Those are a couple of EXTREMELY beautiful rifles- great video
The 270 is deadly!!! Great deer killer. Drop's em in their tracks!!!
Ive only taken one deer w a 270. It ran about 15 yds
I've killed 11 with the 270, never had one take a step. That's the only caliber that I've never had one take a step. I use Remington 130gr. Core- lokt.
Awesome!
I've used the Winchester Power Point 130 grain for years and I can tell you, it will put the smack down on ANY deer or hog.
Wrong I use a 270 short mag 140 grain bullet hollow point to hunt with they run because I shot a deer in the shoulder on the 5 for youth season and it ran about 35 yards and i shot a 7 point in the in the neck the week of opening season and it ran and i shot a 4 point behind the shoulder the weekend after opening season and it ran and i shot a 3 point it dropped didn’t go no where so no your wrong I have actually just started hunting with a 270 and I’m 15 used to use a 243 single shot but i have upgraded
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Up...no down. Left. No, right! Wait. Nope. Uhmmm....
You're not alone. I giggle everytime I need to adjust a scope, thinking "well, I give myself 50/50 to be half wrong". I never disappoint myself 😁
Yup! Its 50/50 🤣🤣🤣
That's the same exact problem I was having sighting in my most recent optic. Thought I had lost my mind! HA! I think some scopes are just jacked up... Can't wait to see some coyote vids man!!!
Hey thanks for watching! Im ready to do some more hunting vids!
I have both.243 and a 270 and was wondering how much of a difference it was between the two. My brother-in-law told me there was a big difference and man was he right. I hit a buck last season with the 243 in the shoulder and he ran off on 3 legs we couldn’t find him no blood trail. 270 and up from now on. Great video and great demonstration
Crying shame beautiful rifles with dime store scopes.
Got what I can afford
I went through the expensive vs dime store scope experience myself and have had the best luck with Nikon ProStaff scopes. Not the most expensive out there, but they work great for me. An old man that worked at a reloading store I used to shop at said to me that the snipers in WWII had scopes that weren’t as good as the cheapest scopes around today, and they were successful. He told me to just pick a scope and get good shooting it. I took that advice and bought a few Nikons.
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I like Nikon's too I've got one on a shotgun and my 22lr. No need for a $1000 scope
@@probegt75 Shame they quit making tjem
And now we know why that scope manufacturer is out of business... beautiful rifles though and they deserve some decent glass on them... Keep the videos coming!
I believe they are back
Love the rifles, but one thing I've learned over the years is there are a lot of animals lost or wasted every year from not being precise enough on sight in and not buying quality optics. If you sight in at 25 yards you could be off inches at 100. If your optic fails due to being bumped or mishandled you could gut shoot the deer. Two inches high at 100 will have you hitting pretty well at out to 200. And buying better scopes (not saying you need zeiss or swarovski) is just much more ethical to me.
Where I hunt there are no shots beyond about 40 yds. 😃 I am dirt poor, and everything i own is "budget minded" ive never had any issues with my scopes - most ive ever paid for a scope is $50
Trust me when I say I understand. And if you're not shooting over 50 yards it is really unlikely that you'll wound anything. But if you ever go hunt somewhere that shots are far a leupold for 150 or 200 bucks might be worth considering. I get being budget minded, the most expensive scope I have was 300 bucks. It's a like a good guitar only sounds as good as the amp it's played through. A good rifle is only as good as the optic that's on it.
Hey I play guitar too 🤣 i would love to try out some long range hunting some time. Would be a lot of fun
I saw one of your videos where you were playing. That's how I knew you'd relate to the reference. 😉
Absolutely :)
We appreciate your honesty in that you are not afraid to show some failure common to all of us, but contrarily you remain faithful to reality without a script or editing.
Really appreciate you watching Edi!
The reason it seems to shoot all over the place is parallelex. Most big game scopes have it set at 100 yards. On some expensive scopes and varmint scopes it can be adjusted
Thanks for the comparison. I'm a Texan and have lived with talk of the 270 Win and how it's the best deer rifle. I finally broke down and picked up one.
Thanks for watching Rich
@@WHOTEEWHO You're welcome. Bye the way. The 270 is one of my favorite calibers.
25-06 boys
Another great caliber@@chrisd.9745
That video says a lot for the .270. I am going to send this vid to my son who lives in Alaska. He also has a 270.
Sure does! I did not expect it to go through the steel
Roberthurz , My friend (AVID HUNTER) Uses a 270 on everything in Alaska. From griz to rams. 200+++ shots. BUT, up close in a bear attack theyre useless w/o a brain shot. Kills the bear good enough but not before it gets you before dying. He also carries a short bbl shotgun w brenneke black magic slugs for UP CLOSE bear encounters on all his hunts because ALL of Alaska is "BEAR COUNTRY". Im Alaskan & I carry a 45/70. W flip up ramp sights can do 400 yd shots easy. Lotsa quick firepower w the lever guns too in a multiple bear attack situation.
good advice. Thanks Dave Jan!
it should shoot low at 20yds
Scrolling through my main page and see these two beautiful rifles. Brother, I can't afford watching you anymore lol. Man they're pretty. WTW!
😝😝😝 I got these half off. Right place right time
Made the same mistake boresighting before the dials are not backwards it just seems that way when boresighting. Now when I bore sight I don't even look at dials I just turn them till crosshairs line up where I want
Yup!!!
Yeah same here. When boresighting you do go backwards. When shooting go by the dials.
You said hogs, deer, coyotes and you could have also said elk, moose, mule deer, and black bear. All you would need would be that 270 sighted zero at 290 yards and make kill shots from 100 out to 600 yards by aiming dead centre for the lungs. That is how flat shooting the 130 grain bullet is. even at that extreme range it still has lots of penetration power! When they necked down and slightly extended the bevel (to prevent chambering problems with the 30-06) to a 27 cal. they essentially produced what today would be called a magnum load. One heck of a round, under appreciated by peple that haven't used it. This round has converted the most 30 cal guys than any other. As always love the vids.
For that 270 you should try them deer season bullets 130 grain they shoot really accurate in mine
Awesome
I also use a .270. I agree. I've used the Winchester Power Point 130 grain for years and I can tell you, it will put the smack down on ANY deer or hog.
150 will be dead in tracks
First rule of the .270 club is we don't talk about the .270 club. Lol...
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All scope dials come with an arrow indicator indicating ONE direction for adjustments so it might have an arrow indicating a clockwise direction for UP, that means an anti clockwise direction for DOWN, and the same for LEFT and RIGHT, other manufacturers might show an arrow indicating an anti clockwise for UP, so then it would be clockwise for DOWN, so check which way the arrow is indicating on your scopes.
You should sight it in a inch above the bullseye at 100 yards that way it's dead on at 200
Furthest shots i have where I hunt is about 30 yds 😆
@@WHOTEEWHO wow! You can use a 30-30 or a bow at those ranges. My average shot is 75 yards but I have shot out to 250 300.
Is 150 grain ammo on at 200 when sighted in at 1 inch high at 100 yards
The 243 is the compromise if you only want one rifle. The 270 to 300 win mag is overkill for small game. The 243 can do ground hogs, coyote and up to deer sized game.
My dad hunts with a 270 and I hunt with my 243 😂
Scaled by age lol
Rate the kick
I didn't mean the word when I seen the wood on those rifles I just had to watch your channel again
I thought your hat was sewn to your scalp!
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I was told when you're moving the crosshairs to the bullseye their backwards but once you're on paper moving the Bullet to the bullseye then they will turn the correct way Hey to Paul Jr ✌
You keep making videos and I’ll keep watching, sounds like a good deal to me😃👍
DEAL!!!
Some scopes have had me scratching my head before. 😂 I love watching you sight in . My record is three shots.....done!!
Guess the 270 is the hog gun .
Thank You Sir!!! 👍👍
Scratch the sleep part, and just admit u don’t know what you are doing
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When you look through the barrel to bore sight in you turn the dials in the opposite way, but when you look through the scope to then actually sight it in while shooting turn the dials the way as indicated.
Yes I know this sounds funny but that's how it works out. when looking threw a barrel to bore sight LOL
Plus hit the top of the turret after every adjustment to make sure the cross hairs move.
just a suggestion.
Only when Barr sighting is everything back ward
The scope is not backwards. Looking through the bore, it is reversed. Firing and shooting just. follow the scope arrows.
Thanks Stephen!
In the army ( Canadian) we shot 7.62\ 51 . (308) , we sighted in at 30 yds for dead on at 200 , If I remember correct the rotating rear apacher had peep holes for 2/3/4/5/600yds , Belgian made FN C1& C2! My brother who hand loaded pulled some bullets , checked powder charge and said they were about max , replaced replaced bullets with 168 gr. hunting rounds , and they were hotter than my Remington's
I really enjoy your channel man. Thanks.
Appreciate you watching 80s metal!!!
@@WHOTEEWHO Absolutely. You are always funny and put on some great videos.
Only 6 minutes into your video!
Best laugh I've had all week!
(Now you know why I'm VERY PICKY about who I go hunting with! 🙃 )
I loved his presentation he is so professional and explains in detail the 243 vs 270! I was in the military 1974 mos 18D
Thanks for watching Thomas!
I just love your shows . You are a Legend .
appreciate you watching!
Lmao. The second shot after the random twisting on the scope. The was hilarious!
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The reason it was backwards at first is because you are bore sighting... when shooting you are “raising the bullet, not the crosshairs” when in reality it’s the crosshairs moving to the point of impact so when bore sighting you do opposite of what the scope says
Awesome video. I'm a proud owner of a .270 rifle. I was kinda wondering if I should have gotten 30-06 but after seeing this i feel good about the choice because i have shot a 30-06 before and i wanted something slightly lighter. it still packs a wallop!
270 is good. Any ideas for 270 videos?
WHO_TEE_WHO yeah, perhaps a redo of the 270 vs 30-06 paper plate test, but use a 180 gr 30-06 bullet and a 150 gr (which you might have left over from the last video) 270 round. these will be closer as far as comparable weights to calibre size.
Good idea
WHO_TEE_WHO :) i think it will be pretty close on the paper plate test but as you’ve said correctly, you never know what you’re going to get until you actually shoot em
Glad you left the scope adjustment quirks in the video, anybody that says they’ve never had that happen is lying...lol. A couple of months ago I had a red dot freeze up on me, major adjustments and no result, then it decided to move from recoil I guess and the shots were printing ALL over the place, I had worked a 17 hour shift at the mill the previous day so I definitely thought I was losing my mind.....
😆😆😆 thanks for watching!
Love the self deprecation. You have humility and I like your videos.
Thanks Adam. Appreciate you watching
My first deer was taken with a Winchester model 70 in 270 caliber at 1022 yards across a canyon in Northern California, it's amazing what you can do when you are hungry and the target is a opertunity for you and your family to have food for tonight and days to come.. LOL
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Simple rule to remember ....
If your music volume is too high turn it down
If your bullet hits too high, turn it down
All of my scopes work like that. Never saw one that didn’t
I know its a late comment but I own S&W 243 rifle and a Savage 110 in 270. I love them both but the 270 is a real power house for Deer. Its a great round in my book. The 243 is good to but I mostly use it for coyote and varmint hunting.
Great video... we all get the directions backwards sometimes .. 243 great group therapy... sounds like someone else was shooting as well
Me and my buddy up the street :-)
5:21 You just went right. LOL
Ahh Yess, “Grand Master J” scope, Bass Ackward!!!
This guy is a good funny man , and the 270 is a great cartridge
Your scope height is a HUGE factor, when using a short range zero. I was guessing at my scope height on a ballistics calculator. I put it in as 1.4". I later got a precise measurement, and the difference in trajectory was a lot! My scope was actually 1.7" from the bore. This made my zero change from 38 yards, to 45 yards. This was to get my bullet to hit 1" high at 100, then 1" low at 200. Test this for yourself. It makes a significant difference. This is the reason that AR shooters can use a 50-200 yard zero. Their scope height is somewhere around 2.5". A hunting rifle(1.5") will be more like a 50-130, or a 35-200 yard zero.
Never go the cheap on your optic mate 👌🏼
Good vid like always 💪🏼
Im poor. Lol
100 grain bullets in a 270 make for a great coyote round.
I believe it
Don't worry man I lost my mind a long time ago I can't wait to find it again
"Maybe I should stay away from these little bullets and stick with the big bore guns" lmao XD
🤣🤣🤣 yup
If the animal your shooting at is 300 pounds and bigger like a elk at 350 yards, I want the 270, deer, hogs either will work
270 is the go to round here on the plains of Alberta. It just does the job reliably without beating the hell out of your shoulder.
Both rounds are great but i apprecieate my ears, so i stick with my .243 rather than my grandpa's .270
It should be noted i use no ear protection cuz thats for people with already good hearing.
Right when you said you might need to go up and right on your first sight I nodded my head. I thought the same thing once when I was a teen. Learning by your mistakes makes you more focused on things. Great guns by the way.
Thanks for watching Woody!
If you’re off left when you adjust your crosshairs to go right the reticle should move left in the lense so that you will aim further right on the next shot.
Righty tighter loosey lefty... alot of scopes are stamped up on the turrets wrong.. but they ALL work on a screw thread pulling or pushing the crosshair...
I just picked up a savage axis in .270 win for deer season. Definitely more excited about the caliber after watching this.
Definitely more boogie on the 270. Probably my next rifle purchase.
Great video Adam
Mr. Who_Tee_Who, thanks for the comparison; Long fan of the .270 with the muzzle velocity and bullet size can take down most things; Flat trajectory can give accurate shot placement a chance!
Thanks for watching!
This confusion gets worst with age. 🤣🤣😆😆😂😂😂😆😆🤣 Been there done that. Enjoyed the video.
Oh no!!!
I own a 270 Mossberg atr 100 and a savage 243.
Awesome man! Who Tee Who!
Thanks Ringo!
The barrel is hot on the 243 that's why it's wondering let it cool down
I shoot a 7 mm mag
Grouping at 100 yds is about the size of a dime
If you want to improve your grouping, with that stand, Take your left hand off it an place it over your right hand fingers, Pull the whole gun tight to your body, watch your breathing an heart, both will cause slight movement in the barrel at long range, see if that improves your grouping.
Also throw those store bought bullets away as far as you can, I had super X as you were using when they first came out or many years back, You could actually see the bullet come out of the barrel an drop in front of you.
Try reloading, an some times just going slightly over the rated loads (possibly 1 or 2 grains) will bring the grouping in so it will shock you. Each gun an barrel is different, also check your bedding, If it is damaged or the barrel rubbing ever so slightly, you will never hit the broad side of a barn door.
That 270 at that range should have gone through the same hole.
.270 win is limited with grain weights but it’s big advantage is longer bullets to fight wind drift and have a high ballistic coefficient to keep high velocity with less drop. 500 yds and closer it’s considered an effective elk cartridge. Lol I’ve had something similar happen with zeroing scopes. One time was with my .270. I had to take a massive piece of cardboard since it was off about 2ft.
Turrets are designed and labeled so that you move to the right when you want the bullet to go right, turn left when you want the bullet to go left. You're losing your mind. You're moving the bullet, if you get my drift.
I made the same mistake, bore sighting is backwards, actual sight-in by firing follows the arrow markers on the scope.
Researching my next gun purchase, I have been looking at ballistics charts. I was surprised to learn the impact force of my
270 was so close to my 375 H&H mag, I am selling the 375. The force of the 270 is crazy high. Excellent split screen
downrange camera shot EVERYONE should be doing.. Firstly..how did you do that, and secondly, AWESOME JOB ON VID.
PLEASE tell me how you did that pic in pic, and how did you sync it so well. Thanks for your efforts, I am now a subscriber.
Hey River man! Thanks for watching! I do a lot of pic in pic split screen in my vids so you can see the instant effect of the shots. Simply run two or more cameras and sync them in the editing software. A LOT more work, but I think it makes the videos better
That video was a whole lotta fun Who_Tee_Who. That 270 surprised me. Are you going to use the 243 for hogs at any time, or just the 270 for hogs? I used to have a 270 a few years ago, but sold it. Next year I want to buy a new rifle for hogs, and haven't decided between the 243, 270, or simply a 30-30 lever rifle.
Ill use anything for hogs we will see. I always lean towards the big bores. 450, 4570 :)
If I was you, I'd go with a .308 or the 30-30. The .308 will have more range than the 30-30 but if you're not shooting over 150 yards it won't matter. Another thing, the .308 is the same as a 30-06. It has almost the same amount of powder and doesn't break your shoulder when you shoot.