Jerry, definitely cuts slower but you’re correct much less sharpening. I mainly use this chain for cutting dirty wood and stumps, not everyday cutting.
I have used the stihl duro carbide chains in .325 and 3/8. I use them for cutting stumps below ground level. The carbide chain is is 40-50% slower than a non carbide chain. But touch any dirt with non-carbide and it quickly gets dull and stops cutting. The carbide will stop cutting when the teeth get packed with dirt. Clean the dirt out of the teeth,, which is very difficult, and it cuts again. Doesnt hardly dull, but will chip. Anything above ground and I don't even think to use the carbide. Only when cutting roots and dirt. And it is not easy going.
Definitely liking the chain so far. Doesn’t cut quite as fast as my regular chain but definitely handles dirt much much better. I have another video or 2 I’ve used it for that haven’t finished editing yet.
I've got 2 saws. Sthil ms391 and Poulan pp5020av, both 20". I had been on ebay and found a similar product you are trying out here. I sent those folks a pic of the last chain box with all numbers and they had a carbide tipped chain. I've only had it on long enough to fell about 7 white pines, appx. 18" through. Trying to make our million dollar view a 2 million dollar view, Ha. The chain I got went on the Sthil, it has cut those pines like a hot knife through butter. No over heating and smoking the bar, it just does a good job! Think I'll get another one for the Poulan and run-em till I have to stand on the saw. Right now it's looking like a good product and if they last as longer than the Sthil or Oregon chains I've been using , it will be a money saver. Wonder if you had spoke to the fella you bought from to see if there is a sharpening bit/tool for those chains? My guess, some type of carbide or diamond bit that would fit a dremel or drill? If you get an up date on that, Hollar at us. My pricing these so far has been my local Sthil Dealer, 157.00,,,,,,, Ace hardware around 97.00 and my e bay supplier 59-61 depending on the required chain. I'll give your guy a call too
Dennis, thanks for watching and sharing your information. I do know when I talked with him you can get a diamond wheel for the grinder style sharpeners and I’d imagine you could do the same with a dremel style. I have used mine a fair amount and cut some dirty wood with it and it has not needed to be sharpened yet. I plan on breaking it out again here shortly to cut on some Hickory as that can be tough on chains.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Yeah, that hickory is dense and a job to cut fer sure. My other top 2 in my area is Locust and large old Bradford Pear. I found one that had been down for 7-8 years and the owner gave it to me. Of course you get one guess who had to buck it, load it and split it. this Bradford Pear was way too large around, I had to cut from both directions so at/near the base and lower trunk it was about 26" in. through. That was my first time burning that wood. Very dense and tight, not stringy like red oak etc. Thanks for the reply. I'll start looking for a chain sharpener just so I'll know where to go if I ever need one on these carbide tipped chains.
Dennis, I have not run across Bradford pear yet but that sounds like it was a job! We have some locust here too. If you give Andrew a call he has a lot of knowledge on the carbide chains, sharpening, etc.
I just had a neotec 870 delivered today it's a Chinese clone of the ms 038 steel chainsaw. All the parts are interchangeable. Out of the box it's a really nice chainsaw. I'm always looking for a good chain! Esp especially when most of the trees. I get are just a little dirty! Or may have a spike or a nail in it. I'd like to see how a carbide chain handles that type of abuse. I'm Stanley Jack from Piqua Ohio.
You are lucky the bark is falling off. I cut up a bunch of walnut tops and found after a year the wood is still wet under the bark and it really draws the bugs.
I just want you to know that when you're out in the woods! You're not timing each cut. You're looking for something that will last two or three tanks of gasoline on your chainsaw. Maybe more if you don't hit a rock or a spike nail!
They can be sharpened but you need a diamond file, deemed not, or sharpening wheel. Andrew said he will sharpen them when needed with his diamond wheel. He charges $10 to sharpen one. I am curious how much dirt etc it can handle before needing to be sharpened.
From Andrew: Yes. They do make a diamond file. Alhborn Equipment in Wisconsin sells hand files for carbide but I sell the diamond wheels for Oregon sharpener $60 and Harbor Freight for $50 delivered.
So not faster sawing, but less down time sharpening. Well worth it.
Jerry, definitely cuts slower but you’re correct much less sharpening. I mainly use this chain for cutting dirty wood and stumps, not everyday cutting.
I have used the stihl duro carbide chains in .325 and 3/8. I use them for cutting stumps below ground level. The carbide chain is is 40-50% slower than a non carbide chain. But touch any dirt with non-carbide and it quickly gets dull and stops cutting.
The carbide will stop cutting when the teeth get packed with dirt. Clean the dirt out of the teeth,, which is very difficult, and it cuts again. Doesnt hardly dull, but will chip. Anything above ground and I don't even think to use the carbide. Only when cutting roots and dirt. And it is not easy going.
They definitely cut slower but they sure hold up well to the dirt!
You have a couple of hard working boys to be proud of
Thank you! Definitely proud of them. They make working outside even more enjoyable.
I have a Stihl 028 super. It's like 25 years old maybe older. It still runs perfect.
I had an 028 super before also. Definitely a nice saw.
You’re right, Andy knows what he’s talking about. I get all my carbide chains from that guy. Nice trailer by the way.
Definitely liking the chain so far. Doesn’t cut quite as fast as my regular chain but definitely handles dirt much much better. I have another video or 2 I’ve used it for that haven’t finished editing yet.
It looks like you have a good ground crew to work with!
Definitely. Love having a family that’ll work outside with me.
I've got 2 saws. Sthil ms391 and Poulan pp5020av, both 20". I had been on ebay and found a similar product you are trying out here. I sent those folks a pic of the last chain box with all numbers and they had a carbide tipped chain. I've only had it on long enough to fell about 7 white pines, appx. 18" through. Trying to make our million dollar view a 2 million dollar view, Ha. The chain I got went on the Sthil, it has cut those pines like a hot knife through butter. No over heating and smoking the bar, it just does a good job!
Think I'll get another one for the Poulan and run-em till I have to stand on the saw. Right now it's looking like a good product and if they last as longer than the Sthil or Oregon chains I've been using , it will be a money saver. Wonder if you had spoke to the fella you bought from to see if there is a sharpening bit/tool for those chains? My guess, some type of carbide or diamond bit that would fit a dremel or drill?
If you get an up date on that, Hollar at us.
My pricing these so far has been my local Sthil Dealer, 157.00,,,,,,, Ace hardware around 97.00 and my e bay supplier 59-61 depending on the required chain. I'll give your guy a call too
Dennis, thanks for watching and sharing your information. I do know when I talked with him you can get a diamond wheel for the grinder style sharpeners and I’d imagine you could do the same with a dremel style. I have used mine a fair amount and cut some dirty wood with it and it has not needed to be sharpened yet. I plan on breaking it out again here shortly to cut on some Hickory as that can be tough on chains.
@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Yeah, that hickory is dense and a job to cut fer sure. My other top 2 in my area is Locust and large old Bradford Pear. I found one that had been down for 7-8 years and the owner gave it to me. Of course you get one guess who had to buck it, load it and split it. this Bradford Pear was way too large around, I had to cut from both directions so at/near the base and lower trunk it was about 26" in. through. That was my first time burning that wood. Very dense and tight, not stringy like red oak etc.
Thanks for the reply. I'll start looking for a chain sharpener just so I'll know where to go if I ever need one on these carbide tipped chains.
Dennis, I have not run across Bradford pear yet but that sounds like it was a job! We have some locust here too. If you give Andrew a call he has a lot of knowledge on the carbide chains, sharpening, etc.
just got a perfect cut marking tool-used it a few times so far-not bad
I’ll check it out. Thanks.
Still running mine, have to try one from Andy
I just had a neotec 870 delivered today it's a Chinese clone of the ms 038 steel chainsaw. All the parts are interchangeable. Out of the box it's a really nice chainsaw. I'm always looking for a good chain! Esp
especially when most of the trees. I get are just a little dirty! Or may have a spike or a nail in it. I'd like to see how a carbide chain handles that type of abuse. I'm Stanley Jack from Piqua Ohio.
Make sure to tear that saw down and torque everything down it will rattle apart!
What size bar do you run on your 036? My chainsaw came with a 24-in bar.
I run a 20” bar on the 036’s
Does he have a website?
I don’t believe so. His contact info should be in the video description.
I don't mind spending the money for a good chain! As long as it lasts and you can sharpen it. I usually buy three or four chains for each chainsaw.
You are lucky the bark is falling off. I cut up a bunch of walnut tops and found after a year the wood is still wet under the bark and it really draws the bugs.
I was able to get all of the bark off.
I just want you to know that when you're out in the woods! You're not timing each cut. You're looking for something that will last two or three tanks of gasoline on your chainsaw. Maybe more if you don't hit a rock or a spike nail!
You can’t sharpen carbide, correct?
They can be sharpened but you need a diamond file, deemed not, or sharpening wheel. Andrew said he will sharpen them when needed with his diamond wheel. He charges $10 to sharpen one. I am curious how much dirt etc it can handle before needing to be sharpened.
From Andrew:
Yes. They do make a diamond file. Alhborn Equipment in Wisconsin sells hand files for carbide but I sell the diamond wheels for Oregon sharpener $60 and Harbor Freight for $50 delivered.