The God Of War Knockoff Collection | Failed Franchise Edition

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  • Hello and welcome back to the God of War knockoffs collection. This isn't the first entry in my series of videos on the topic, but you don't need to watch the others to get an idea for what I'm doing here. Basically, around the mid-2000s into the early 2010s, a lot of games attempted to play off of the gameplay formula that God of War had established and make their own game with it. Because massive success begets imitators. This resulted in many many similar games, some good, some bad. The degree to which these games ripped off God of War varies from entry to entry, but it's a very specific weak attack, strong attack, grab, block, quick time event, high angle camera formula that can be instantly recognized. Much in the same way that you can instantly recognize a game that ripped off the Arkham Asylum Style punch counter combat. I was struggling to find a connecting theme for the various potential games I could have covered. Until I realized I noticed a fairly recurring pattern among some of these games. Because here's the thing, most games that attempted to rip off God of War had at least one sequel, wasn't intended to be a franchise, or was part of an ongoing franchise in itself. However there were also a lot of games that were intended to launch franchises, but fell flat on their face from the moment they left the birth canal. There's some cases where you can only presume that it was meant to launch a franchise, but other cases where it's well publicized that they were supposed to be more games, before a sequel ultimately never materialized. So today I thought I'd take a look at games that attempted to launch franchise while attempting to play like God of war, but never made it past the first entry. So this is the God of War knockoffs collection, failed franchises edition. Today we'll be looking at Heavenly Sword, Asura's Wrath, X-Blades, Knights Contract and Marlow Briggs And The Mask Of Death.
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  • @conmanwolf405
    @conmanwolf405 Рік тому +481

    Fun fact: The reason Heavenly Sword hasn't had a sequel isn't because of bad sales or market viability. It's because nobody at the development team knew where they wanted to take the sequel. As such, it spent years languishing in and out of development. So it not having a sequel seems to be more an inability to decide on a sequel. So as for whether or not I call that a failed franchise... Eh. It has a definitive ending.

    • @mateusfelipecardoso40kview3
      @mateusfelipecardoso40kview3 Рік тому +10

      Just make a prequel!

    • @ShatteredGlass916
      @ShatteredGlass916 Рік тому +28

      ​@@mateusfelipecardoso40kview3a prequel about the previous owner of the blades sounds cool.
      Maybe it used to belong to that crazy king's friend, whom he grew jealousy upon, which lead to King Bohan's (is that his name? Sorry) conquest for the blades
      Or maybe a sequel involving that weird bowgun kid

    • @NebLleb
      @NebLleb Рік тому +22

      @@ShatteredGlass916 Actually, a sequel using the concept of the Heavenly Sword being passed on to a different owner would be pretty clever.

    • @ShatteredGlass916
      @ShatteredGlass916 Рік тому +14

      @@NebLleb I mean it's the only way right? Maybe have Nariko's soul trapped inside and the only way to escaped is if the current user's dead and replaced the trapped souls, allowing the previous soul to pass on.
      Maybe having Nariko's soul so powerful that she can communicate to the next user and maybe they could bond from there. Maybe the king have a secret heir that were exiled during King Bohan's conquest and now just returned to the news that his father is killed and seeks revenge

    • @willdiesel8431
      @willdiesel8431 Рік тому +1

      Where did you get that "fun fact"?
      There's many avenues they could take for sequel, sounds like a copout.

  • @gmradio2436
    @gmradio2436 Рік тому +174

    Why do people call Asura's Wrath a GoW-like? The mechanics resemble DMC 3 more. A single primary attack button with pause combos, a ranged attack, a style button, devil trigger equivalent, lock on, and evasion being the defensive option.

    • @DarkOverlord96
      @DarkOverlord96 Рік тому +39

      I think it's MOSTLY because of the story and characters, really.

    • @gmradio2436
      @gmradio2436 Рік тому +42

      @@DarkOverlord96 Angry dad kills god. I can see it.

    • @shoken4421
      @shoken4421 Рік тому +49

      @DarkOverlord96
      if you played the game you know asuras wrath plays NOTHING like gow there's no weapons,no health or armor upgrades ,heck there aren't even loot boxes in the game ,where how had multiple levels and mini stages asuras wrath was basically a beatem up in every sense of the word . The story lines aren't even similar,kratos gets tricked into killing his family and asura is branded a traitor for killing a fellow deity which he didn't do ,he also had his daughter kidnapped by his comrades and his wife was murdered by these same comrades. How that makes asura a gow clone is not even close . Asuras wrath was loosely based on Hindu and Japanese folklore .

    • @rastapopoulos5808
      @rastapopoulos5808 Рік тому +41

      Yeah it doesn't make any sense when GOW is itself a DMC knock-off, from the combo system to weapon upgrade it owe everything to it. That the video doesnt seem to address this is kind of dishonest.

    • @shoken4421
      @shoken4421 Рік тому +10

      @@rastapopoulos5808 guess the uploader forgot to mention that lol

  • @drjuice3180
    @drjuice3180 Рік тому +3

    You missed out on one of the best God of War clones. Dantes inferno

  • @thiefthearcher9907
    @thiefthearcher9907 Рік тому +11

    Heavenly Sword and Asuras Wrath were games I was always salty never got sequels or remakes. Imagine the time and polish really making them pop. Maybe one day. That and Dante’s Inferno

  • @inspectahgex1910
    @inspectahgex1910 10 місяців тому +1

    I just finished Final Fantasy 16 last night and many things from that game remind me of Asura’s Wrath. It’s a real underrated gem that gets overlooked a lot but it’s nice seeing some of its DNA in newer games. The best way I can describe FF16 is if Asura’s Wrath was actually given a good budget and more time without all of capcom’s bullshit from back in the day.

  • @PBart7
    @PBart7 Рік тому +3

    Asuras Wrath NEEDS a remaster.

  • @assafgoldlust140
    @assafgoldlust140 9 місяців тому

    as someone that played asura several times over, i can say that you were pretty much on point asside from a few issues.
    1:while i also believe that deus is a stand in for zeus, (a leader of dietys that uses lightning as a means of attack) the name is not indicator for it. the word "Deus" is simply the word for "God" for god in ancient greek.
    2: as for the 5 minute cutscenes for each combat areana. you are not wrong saying this, but it is important that this game really trying to be an interactive anime and most of the cutscenes are interactive, and for that games its actually works.

  • @TheyWillKnowAnother
    @TheyWillKnowAnother 11 місяців тому

    Dante’s Inferno and Conan were fantastic “knock offs”

  • @Fitzftw7
    @Fitzftw7 8 місяців тому

    Well, guess I’m getting Marlow Briggs for Steam Deck. Thanks, TBP!

    • @cannongod6523
      @cannongod6523 7 місяців тому

      I can get on Xbox series s and let’s be honest… THAT GAME IS NOT CHEAP💀 it needs14.99$

    • @Fitzftw7
      @Fitzftw7 7 місяців тому

      @@cannongod6523 $5 on Steam, $1 when it goes on sale.

  • @Teboho-oq2mz
    @Teboho-oq2mz Рік тому

    bro thats the saw cleaver in knights contract

  • @CatNigga
    @CatNigga 10 місяців тому

    Ridiculous Asura slander will not be tolerated

  • @seth_k2078
    @seth_k2078 Рік тому +774

    Asura's Wrath was one game I've wanted to play for years.

    • @wallcity318
      @wallcity318 Рік тому +148

      Its super simplistic but fun, not really a gow clone but more of a playable anime. Ive wanted more since ive played it

    • @ExtremeGameplays1
      @ExtremeGameplays1 Рік тому +26

      Play it on UA-cam.

    • @deityofcrystals
      @deityofcrystals Рік тому +7

      Emulate it

    • @angelganon8213
      @angelganon8213 Рік тому +16

      If you have xbox it's on sale right now for 4 dollars

    • @commando0110
      @commando0110 Рік тому +8

      its so so fun. im way more interested in it than god of war

  • @Raging_Asura
    @Raging_Asura Рік тому +119

    17:03 Deus literally means ''God''
    Edit: yeah, I think Asura's Wrath is not for you, lol (Also the fact that people told you it's a GoW clone is wild. Are all games that have Gods as the main characters now considered GoW clones?)

    • @bwestacado9643
      @bwestacado9643 Рік тому +27

      Yeah I'm in agreement with you. The game plays more like DMC and Bayonetta with Bayonetta's crazy set pieces. Nothing about this game at all reminds me of GoW

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust Рік тому +6

      Does that mean Pokemon Legends Arceus is a God of War game 🤔

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust Рік тому

      Does that mean Pokemon Legends Arceus is a God of War game 🤔

    • @incaseofimportantnegotiations
      @incaseofimportantnegotiations 11 місяців тому

      @@TheReZisTLust age of mythology is a god of war clone

    • @Badboy25251
      @Badboy25251 11 місяців тому

      ​@@incaseofimportantnegotiations megami tensei is a gow clone.

  • @luxzord865
    @luxzord865 Рік тому +146

    Another missed opportunity to call this the "Knock Off War" series.

    • @donovanfaust3227
      @donovanfaust3227 Рік тому +4

      To me that title sounds like it would be about knock offs in general and not GoW likes.

    • @misterboxhead3045
      @misterboxhead3045 Рік тому

      Knock knock

    • @nilesstark
      @nilesstark Рік тому

      Right. Sounds more like a Mope Video in terms of Heavenly Sword.

  • @StormGardenHedgefleet
    @StormGardenHedgefleet Рік тому +327

    Asura's Wrath also had a DLC involving Street Fighter IV
    Where Asura fought Not just Ryu/Evil Ryu but also Fought Akuma/Oni
    Sadly this dlc didnt continue after the Akuma/Oni DLC

    • @willdiesel8431
      @willdiesel8431 Рік тому +13

      I'm surprised that wasn't mentioned even in passing.

    • @misterboxhead3045
      @misterboxhead3045 Рік тому +6

      It didn't because that was the end, after several years of neither won the battle but even so they still keep fighting

    • @nilesstark
      @nilesstark Рік тому +3

      And even after 500 years, we still need a winner.

    • @rinyahto3852
      @rinyahto3852 6 місяців тому

      Who would you really have him fight after Akuma though?

  • @mars7357
    @mars7357 Рік тому +90

    Asuras wrath is so goated and I love it to this day

  • @IntenseGamer17
    @IntenseGamer17 Рік тому +312

    I'm glad Asura's wrath is getting more recognition these days.

  • @DarkOverlord96
    @DarkOverlord96 Рік тому +49

    Wait... a game where the main character is killed but is then revived by a Mesoamerican mask that's also very snarky and now must go and rescue his girlfriend?
    Did Marlow Briggs just ripoff fuckin' Splatterhouse?

    • @jurtheorc8117
      @jurtheorc8117 Рік тому +17

      Tep's not quite as mean or snarky as the Terror Mask-- in fact at one point Marlow gets a mean slight in on Tep that makes the *latter* cry :P
      sweet to see someone know that version of Splatterhouse, though!

  • @SacrificAbominat
    @SacrificAbominat Рік тому +195

    Asura's Wrath being an interactive anime divided people from the start, but the ending being DLC was the final nail in the coffin. I genuinely like the game a lot, as well as the DLC which was epic AF, but I can see why it didn't appeal to people back then. I do think people would be more open to a concept like this today, but due to Asura's Wrath's failure CC2 was basically relegated to doing licensed anime games for the past decade instead of making their original IPs. They kind of structure those games similarly to Asura's Wrath from what I've seen, but it would be nice to see them try and do this concept again with an original IP at some point in the future. They do self publish their original IPs nowadays so maybe this will happen again.

    • @fishnutz5196
      @fishnutz5196 Рік тому +16

      People would most deffinately love it if it was remade. The combat and boss fights of FF16 is very Ashura's Wrath

    • @SacrificAbominat
      @SacrificAbominat Рік тому +15

      @@fishnutz5196 Yeah FF16 was very similar to Asura's Wrath. Though the pacing was more like an RPG with breaks in-between the big fights instead of Asura's Wrath keeping you in the action for most of the experience.

    • @fishnutz5196
      @fishnutz5196 Рік тому +6

      @@SacrificAbominat yeah for sure! The set pieces though deffinately gave me Ashura vibes.

    • @heitorpedrodegodoi5646
      @heitorpedrodegodoi5646 Рік тому +1

      I still dont understanf what an interactive anime means.

    • @SacrificAbominat
      @SacrificAbominat Рік тому +1

      ​@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 Asura's Wrath is setup just like an anime with episodes and midpoint slides for commercials. About 75% of the experience is cutscenes with QTEs that go with action that's happening in them.
      To say the least this was a very divisive experience for a lot of people at the time. The last 4 episodes, 2 more 2D animated episodes, and 2 Street Fighter crossover episodes being DLC was even more controversial at the time, especially the true ending being DLC. IMO though they were all worth it especially the last 4 episodes which are on the same level as Bayonetta's epic ending.
      It is worth playing due to the QTEs enhancing the experience. Though if you can't stream it through PS+ or play it through an emulator you can watch a commentary free let's play of it an enjoy it that way.

  • @kennydarmawan13
    @kennydarmawan13 Рік тому +59

    18:00 Also known as Despair.
    You forgot to mention that there was a time when people thought Asura was Kratos done right. And I think they're confusing being sympathetic with being complex/deep/appealing.
    Asura, as a character, is sympathetic. He was merely a family man before he was brutally wronged. And never lashes out at the undeserving. And behind his raging, screaming exterior is just a guy who wants to stop evil.
    However, that only makes him likable, not getting the audience to like him as a character in the same vein as Walter White.
    Trust me, Greek-era Kratos wasn't perfect, but he was a complex figure. TBP definitely made a video discussing that in great detail. And no over-the-top button mashing moment in AW can match the time Kratos had to push away his daughter the same way he kills those hideous beasts.

  • @ShadowD.Joestar
    @ShadowD.Joestar Рік тому +67

    Personally, I've felt that Asura's Wrath really was more like an interactive anime, intended or not, and I loved it anyway.

    • @matthewmccoyd2578
      @matthewmccoyd2578 9 місяців тому +1

      And that explains everything CyberConnect2 has done since.
      And I LOVE IT

  • @lightmohamed5700
    @lightmohamed5700 Рік тому +32

    Asura’s wrath mentioned again? Damn been a while. Poor game it deserved better

  • @maskedhobo
    @maskedhobo Рік тому +19

    I think in Asura's Wrath was using Deus because it is Latin for god.

  • @Comicbroe405
    @Comicbroe405 Рік тому +33

    Asura's Wrath was always one of the coolest games ever for me. Ik it gets flake for being full of cutscenes but the gameplay is great.

  • @Bardia006plus1
    @Bardia006plus1 Рік тому +160

    it's a shame that fans treated some of these games as a "god of war clone" and because of that those games never riched the spot that they deserved.

    • @tigerfestivals5137
      @tigerfestivals5137 Рік тому +43

      ​@@ghost656metal8clone implies they have nothing of value to offer on their own, so fans were wrong in cases like Asura's Wrath

    • @tigerfestivals5137
      @tigerfestivals5137 Рік тому +27

      @@ghost656metal8 just because something is a commercial failure doesn't mean it has no value as a game. It just means it didn't reach a wide enough audience to sell enough copies

    • @shoken4421
      @shoken4421 Рік тому +23

      @ghost656metal8
      The reason asuras wrath failed was because the ending was locked behind paid dlc ,maybe actually read up on asuras wrath before typing none sense.

    • @tigerfestivals5137
      @tigerfestivals5137 Рік тому +5

      @@shoken4421 yeah and that was most likely a decision on the publisher, Capcom's', part who was known for doing scummy dlc practices at the time too

    • @fusioncell7669
      @fusioncell7669 Рік тому +8

      @@tigerfestivals5137 From what I've heard the DLC was originally meant to be the story for Asura's Wrath 2, but since the game didn't sell well enough to warrant a sequel, they instead decided to take what they had and make it a DLC so that there was a proper conclusion to the story.

  • @oharaandrew314
    @oharaandrew314 Рік тому +31

    In X-Blades, the use of spaces as the thousands separator in large numbers isn't weird at all; it's actually the international standard as defined by ISO 31-0. It specifically discourages the use of periods or commas as the separator, since those characters are reserved for use by the decimal sign.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 8 місяців тому

      it is Hungarian so make of that what you will

  • @ArcadeFanatic99
    @ArcadeFanatic99 Рік тому +35

    Videos like this remind me that the real tragedy of Asura's wrath isn't the fact that it's an underrated gem, it's the fact that people who do talk about it barely know anything about it.

    • @ARStudios2000
      @ARStudios2000 10 місяців тому

      You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.

    • @danieladamczyk4024
      @danieladamczyk4024 9 місяців тому

      Thats a film with qta. What did you expected?

  • @PhantomBones101
    @PhantomBones101 Рік тому +120

    Marlow Briggs is highly intriguing to me. Not just because of its God of War gameplay, but because its so rare we get games with Aztec or Mayan themes and its something I always keep an eye out for in gaming. The closet thing we've had outside of this have been lack luster at best.

    • @wilm2109
      @wilm2109 Рік тому +9

      I know what you mean, it's slim pickings out there, but there are a few. There is Aztez, a beat-em up/strategy hybrid, and Expeditions Conquistador, a historical crpg. I think Guacamelee also counts, but I never played it. I have a hard time thinking about anything close to games based on Mayan/Aztec in the last decade, I wasn't even aware about Marlow Briggs.

    • @jurtheorc8117
      @jurtheorc8117 Рік тому +9

      Can't help with games, but Maya and the Three is an animated Netflix series that takes inspiration from Mesoamerican cultures for its entire world and three of the main characters (Aztec/Maya mix for the main character, Aztec for an archer, Peruan inspiration for a barbarian. There's also a mage, but him and his culture inspirations lie with Caribbean influences, if i'm not mistaken).
      It's not a 1-to-1 representation of historical Mesoamerican stuff, think of it more as a fantasy world with that specific setting.

    • @PhantomBones101
      @PhantomBones101 Рік тому +6

      @@jurtheorc8117 I saw that that was actually a pretty good show

    • @PhantomBones101
      @PhantomBones101 Рік тому +6

      @@wilm2109 The closest things I've been able to find in current gen consol is Aztech the Forgotten Gods and Mulaka. Both are good but highly unpolished

    • @Mankey619
      @Mankey619 Рік тому +12

      Marlow Briggs looks like a rejected Dwayne Johnson movie project, that turned into a video game.

  • @Larry
    @Larry Рік тому +8

    If a character has a projectile weapon in the game, wouldn't it be more of a Devil May Cry clone, rather than God of War?

    • @MonsieurBig
      @MonsieurBig 3 місяці тому

      If a character had 10 items, would he put it on his bumm?

    • @Larry
      @Larry 3 місяці тому +2

      @@MonsieurBig Only if they're all box sets of The Simpsons on DVD. :P

  • @girlywolfpup1588
    @girlywolfpup1588 Рік тому +22

    I personally don't have an issue with Ayumi's design but I will agree with the take that Nariko from Heavenly Sword has the far more visually interesting design if we're comparing the two.

  • @micshork
    @micshork Рік тому +31

    I absolutely love Heavenly Sword. I really wish it had gotten a sequel.

    • @dominiquejones3805
      @dominiquejones3805 Рік тому +2

      Facts

    • @tituikabussaa
      @tituikabussaa 11 місяців тому +1

      Or pc port

    • @Badboy25251
      @Badboy25251 11 місяців тому +2

      Sadly, from what I last remember, the developers didn't know where to take the sequel, so it kinda got pushed aside. Sony seems to have a thing with releasing good games and never making sequels or prequels. One of my favorite forgotten Sony games was the legend of dragoon. The game was supposed to get a prequel, but because of poor sales at the time, it was scrapped. They even scrapped the main character for Sony all stars.

  • @Rahnonymous
    @Rahnonymous Рік тому +25

    As a Kingdom Hearts fan, finding out X Blade exists is going to forever bring images of this game whenever I hear the word keyblade

    • @XxSpirothKurotamaMOONLIGHTxX
      @XxSpirothKurotamaMOONLIGHTxX 6 місяців тому

      so what.

    • @Rahnonymous
      @Rahnonymous 6 місяців тому

      @@XxSpirothKurotamaMOONLIGHTxX Nah man, there's no way in hell you actually named yourself like it's 2006 💀

  • @super8bitable
    @super8bitable Рік тому +31

    If Asura’s Wrath did the Telltale approach (have the first episode free and have the rest be paid for the digital version while having the physical version contain everything) it probably wouldn’t have gotten the kind of reputation that it did.

  • @RacerC45
    @RacerC45 Рік тому +11

    Come on, X Blades wasn't even that bad, and you're going to complain about how a character is dressed? Need I introduce you to Tifa from Final Fantasy 7, Mai Shiranui from Fatal Fury, or Miranda Lawson and Jack from Mass Effect 2?

    • @DarkOverlord96
      @DarkOverlord96 Рік тому +5

      Or 2B from NieR: Automata, Ivy Valentine from SoulCalibur, the entire female cast of Dead Or Alive and Bayonetta?

  • @Spaceopera1313
    @Spaceopera1313 Рік тому +50

    Finally, a new god of war knockoff video, now, I shall eat pasta while vibing to it

    • @jurtheorc8117
      @jurtheorc8117 Рік тому +5

      May the pata and the video both make a good experience that elevate each other.

    • @Spaceopera1313
      @Spaceopera1313 Рік тому

      @@jurtheorc8117 real

  • @devonwilliams5738
    @devonwilliams5738 Рік тому +12

    5:40 Wow, that was a quick turnaround. I bet this is the first proper piece of media to make a "Giant Enemy Crab/Massive Damage" joke.
    Overall, Knights Contract and Marlow Briggs are both games I'm going to look out for now.

  • @DarkOverlord96
    @DarkOverlord96 Рік тому +21

    So... sexy women give gaming a bad reputation and are an embarrassment... but not the increasingly realistic gore and violence...
    ...huh?

  • @treasureedison548
    @treasureedison548 Рік тому +13

    Female main characters are loved in gaming since metroid in zero suit samus

    • @DarkOverlord96
      @DarkOverlord96 Рік тому +7

      Yeah, but she's a gorgeous curvy blonde outside her suit so she apparently doesn't count anymore.

    • @tigerfestivals5137
      @tigerfestivals5137 Рік тому +7

      Lots of cool female characters in JRPGs as well

    • @treasureedison548
      @treasureedison548 Рік тому +5

      @@tigerfestivals5137 yes your right jrpg have good female main characters how that the future one are just as good

  • @qitiandasheng2597
    @qitiandasheng2597 Рік тому +8

    All due respect because I love your takes. However, Asura's Wrath was meant to be looked at as an interactive anime more than just a video game. That's why it's quick time events and cutscenes to immerse you into the things that happen. Yes, the gameplay is flawed and could use work, but otherwise, the game is meant to be played and looked at in an anime pov not just a game.

  • @JcgLounge
    @JcgLounge Рік тому +31

    0:00 Beginning
    1:53 Heavenly Sword
    15:59 Asura’s Wrath
    27:54 X-Blades
    38:40 Knight’s Contract
    51:24 Marlow Briggs

  • @Tom-tp1yg
    @Tom-tp1yg Рік тому +6

    17:00 "Deus" is latin for God, and it's still used in many languages. It's a god named "God" it is weird, but they might not have thought of "Zeus" when naming him.

  • @Dowux
    @Dowux Рік тому +5

    How dare you called Asura's Wrath a knockoff.

  • @q306005
    @q306005 Рік тому +11

    I remember when Marlow Briggs came out, my favorite UA-camr made a video on it that was just them going "Oh my god! Fuck yeah! This game is so awesome!" For roughly 30 minutes. I ended up getting the game free on Steam a few years after that. Never played it, but it always looked super awesome and fun.

  • @HimryJr
    @HimryJr Рік тому +3

    Asura's Wrath is definitely not a knock off of GOW, those two games arent similar in any way imo

  • @MagiaBased
    @MagiaBased Рік тому +9

    Asura's Wrath is the greatest experience ever and you can't convince me otherwise

  • @rbrick3685
    @rbrick3685 Рік тому +19

    Maybe not fully related, but I do wanna say we’ve come full circle with the Kratos and Diablo comparison. People now see the Barbarian in Diablo 4 and go: “Kratos rip off” but forget that Kratos’ tattoos were made red because people were calling HIM a barbarian rip off from Diablo 2.
    Honestly wild

  • @henros4188
    @henros4188 Рік тому +17

    Asuras Wrath isn’t failed it’s A MASTERPIECE

  • @Deriv44
    @Deriv44 Рік тому +12

    Heavenly Sword, I believe, had great potential for at least sequel if not a trilogy

  • @XBlazePS3
    @XBlazePS3 Рік тому +5

    Good GOW knockoffs in my opinion are DarkSiders (the first one) castlevania lords of shadows and dante's inferno

    • @jurtheorc8117
      @jurtheorc8117 Рік тому

      Bacon's made a few other videos on this subject that showcase those very games. Not yet the sequels, though.

  • @endplanets
    @endplanets Рік тому +8

    Great stuff.
    ZP's review of X-Blades is also the only time I have heard of it.
    Having light/heavy attacks is pretty common. Like saying Mortal Kombat Shoalin Monks is a GoW ripoff.

  • @neliaironwood7573
    @neliaironwood7573 Рік тому +24

    Gameloft had a God of War clone called Hero of Sparta for mobile and PSP. There are literally green orbs and blue orbs from killing enemies.
    Though I could see Hero of Sparta on the Medieval Edition alongside Garshap: Monster Slayer, Conan (2007), and Tehra: Dark Warrior.
    I could see a Horror Edition with Splatterhouse (2010), Bloodforge, Ninja Blade, and Alice: Madness Returns.

    • @tigerfestivals5137
      @tigerfestivals5137 Рік тому +13

      Getting colored orbs from killing enemies isn't really an original thing though. Even Jak and Daxter does that

  • @XionsEmpire
    @XionsEmpire Рік тому +7

    💀 17:05
    You can't be serious...
    Deus is the Latin word for "god"/"diety"
    The name Zeus stemmed from that.
    Idk if you were being sarcastic or facetious about it but the more you know?

  • @jayDee92133
    @jayDee92133 Рік тому +10

    Heavenly Sword is cool but damn it's really short.

  • @Hatsworthful
    @Hatsworthful Рік тому +9

    Considering that CC2 both did a crapload of anime fighting games (often capturing setpiece moments/fights really well) and uses it to basically fund their own passion projects (that being stuff like asura and .hack were, and that FUGA/the other little tail bronx games are), the influences and why they went so hard on lore depth and quantity.
    Solatorobo sorta did the same, adding a crapload of lore ranging from ancient culture to household appliances and fashion, but it had the benefit of being a ficctional setting built from the ground up and one that was already established, despite tail concerto not really telling much about the world itself. And they are still going with it with FUGA 1 and 2 expanding things even further.

  • @dominiqueodom3099
    @dominiqueodom3099 Рік тому +27

    I personally couldn't get into Heavenly blade due to how badly the motion Controls were implemented when it came to those sections that forced mandatory aiming the Arrow's Flight Trajectory towards enemies heads.

    • @deroriginalealucard
      @deroriginalealucard Рік тому +4

      Oh man, that was a nightmare. 😅

    • @elmono6299
      @elmono6299 Рік тому +4

      Oh my God. Thank you for bringing that up. I absolutely hated the "after touch" controls, and it made some levels frustratingly difficult to beat (looking at you, semi-final boss fight). I swear if this game ever got an HD remake, they really need to get rid of those horrible "motion capture controls" and replace them with more traditional controls.

    • @ealexjrdn1
      @ealexjrdn1 Рік тому

      ​@@elmono6299it's more that the motion controls needed to be tightened up than replaced. The basic concept was sound, the rpg folklore on ps3 was a perfect example of the sixaxis controls being implemented and working perfectly. It's the same feeling I have for older Ubisoft assassin's creed games; strong ideas that would have been excellent with refinement, but got continuously taken out instead of improved.

    • @dominiqueodom3099
      @dominiqueodom3099 Рік тому

      @@ealexjrdn1 the controls being tightened up and used on the right areas fits here.
      Rather than forcing the Archer Girl to be utterly useless without a Bow and forcing us to game with the Axis,just make her a Long Distance Archer/Glass Cannon type character and have her focus on Counterattacks and peppering her enemies with Shots.
      A good example for how the Axis could be used in smaller ways is in Ghost of Tsushima where they just have you guide the Axis controller through a Path on screen as you play the Flute during Slower moments of the game rather than in the Middle of Combat.
      The music is beautiful,the Scenery is Gorgeous and there isn't anything fanatic to get in your way of the combat.

    • @mookiedt
      @mookiedt Рік тому

      I actually found it fun to use

  • @DarkOverlord96
    @DarkOverlord96 Рік тому +15

    NOW we're getting more and more female heroines/main characters in gaming?
    Isn't that something some guy said on Twitter and his only examples were Aloy, Ellie and Abby while ignoring all the female videogame heroines from the last 30+ years?

  • @louissanchez4782
    @louissanchez4782 Рік тому +8

    Asura's wrath is amazing and with a good story

  • @gameplaynia5021
    @gameplaynia5021 Рік тому +6

    Sadly Asuras wrath was dealt a bad hand with the ending being sold separately and bad frame rates. I remember the lowering the resolution to 720p on the PS3 hoping it helped.

  • @erocrhyder
    @erocrhyder Рік тому +5

    Pretty sure Asura's wrath isn't a failure, that game was great.

    • @Badboy25251
      @Badboy25251 11 місяців тому +1

      The games story and world are great the sales were not.

  • @17bergman
    @17bergman Рік тому +6

    Heavenly sword wouldve been fine if we didnt hav to control kai as much because the aiming was almost too difficult for me to even try

  • @Kate_Hanami
    @Kate_Hanami Рік тому +6

    for those that don't know (including TBP over there) God of War 2 was intentionally delay and was put on the PS2 instead of the PS3 because Santa Monica wanted to close the PS2's life cycle with a bang by squeezing years of experience instead of dropping everything and try to dabble (and fail) trying to make a game for a newer console with an architecture no one known too much about yet

  • @EatWave
    @EatWave Рік тому +6

    At the very least, X-Blades had the potential to be a decent game which Blades of Time realized. Since it wasn't quite the jump that Street Fighter 2 was over Street Fighter, there was little chance of Blades of Time kickstarting a franchise.

    • @derrickhaggard
      @derrickhaggard 9 місяців тому

      To add to that said reboot aka Blades of Time which like you said was loved by fans the issue was Konami who had bought the rights to X-Blades when making the reboot Blades of Time they didn't market it all a example of this was the fact Konami finally decided to drop Blades of Time's announcement trailer on it's release day.
      And yes I had both X-Blades, and Blades of Time for my 360.

  • @VRHyoumaru
    @VRHyoumaru Рік тому +7

    Marlow Briggs reminds me a lot of the Splatterhouse reboot, in ways both good and bad including the "unfinished story with no sequel" part.

    • @DarkOverlord96
      @DarkOverlord96 Рік тому +6

      So I wasn't the only one who noticed lol

  • @JammyONE
    @JammyONE Рік тому +11

    Heavenly Sword staying dead is the best thing for the game. If it came back Nariko would have to be physically ugly and a feminazi because it's current year and Sony hates physically appealing and charming women.
    I don't know where you get the idea of that companies don't find women marketable as we had Lara Croft (PS1), Samus Aran, the Senran Kagura series, Hyperdimension Neptunia, Kat (Gravity Rush), Regina (Dino Crisis), Jill and Claire (Resident Evil) and many more.

  • @RacerC45
    @RacerC45 Рік тому +19

    What do you mean games with female protagonists don't sell well? Tomb Raider? Metroid? Any of those names ring a bell?

    • @DarkOverlord96
      @DarkOverlord96 Рік тому +16

      Yeah, I dunno where he got that from, videogames with female protagonists has always sold well... and yes, most of the time it's because sex sells but it's still valid.

    • @MemeinAndDreamin
      @MemeinAndDreamin 6 місяців тому

      Don't take him seriously, he's a grifter.

  • @markula_4040
    @markula_4040 Рік тому +4

    5:20 "one of the most obnoxious fictional characters I've ever encountered"
    Damn, that's harsh criticism. Tiny Tina from Borderlands gets my vote in that dept. Would have been fine if they just left her as a quest giver in the one game and that's it but no. They had feature her as much as possible going forward forcing me to either endure or just give up on the entire series because they will never move past her.

  • @InternetNinja100
    @InternetNinja100 Рік тому +12

    I bet Tactical would have a heart attack after playing Bayonetta because that game is horny as Hell

    • @DarkOverlord96
      @DarkOverlord96 Рік тому +6

      Weird because he DOES mention Bayonetta from time to time and always in a positive light.

    • @InternetNinja100
      @InternetNinja100 Рік тому +2

      ​@DarkOverlord96 maybe his political views have changed

    • @neliaironwood7573
      @neliaironwood7573 11 місяців тому

      Bayonetta is more like Devil May Cry than God of War, so its unlikely to be on future installments because its too well known. Plus, Bayonetta at least plays pretty solidly unlike most of these knockoffs he plays. Most games he plays on this series averages around 50-70 on Metacritic or sometimes lower than that.

  • @yamaha6981
    @yamaha6981 Рік тому +16

    Asura is not a knockoff

    • @Rahnonymous
      @Rahnonymous Рік тому

      Facts, it's a disappointment (edit; if anything, it's a metal gear rising revengeance knockoff)

    • @cargot3670
      @cargot3670 Рік тому

      @@Rahnonymous asura's wrath was litteraly made before mgr

    • @Rahnonymous
      @Rahnonymous Рік тому

      @cargot3670 Damn, they really ripped off a game's idea 1 year in advance?

  • @MichaelChristol
    @MichaelChristol Рік тому +14

    We need an Asura's Wrath remake real bad

  • @SAINZHALLOW
    @SAINZHALLOW Рік тому +3

    If there is one good thing Cyberconnect can do, it's spectacle if we go by their Naruto fighting games. Capcom did a good choice when using them for such a bombastic game as Asura's Wrath. It's hard to really say how a sequel for that series can really work. It was a pretty compact story (even when some of it was DLC). I guess a remake might work with reworked combat if Capcom can give them resources from the DMC team. Think a meshing between base Asura and Devil May Cry level exploring/puzzle solving/combo fighting might do it some good.

  • @bigboss6145
    @bigboss6145 Рік тому +3

    Come on dude, Deus and Zeus? Did you even try to google the word before you said that's a god of war reference? Sounding like a damn Jojo fan smh.

  • @Flipitmixit
    @Flipitmixit Рік тому +2

    17:05 Bro what? Deus just means god😂

  • @HotboiiBuzz
    @HotboiiBuzz Рік тому +3

    Asura’s Wraith, was one the greatest games ive played growing up as a kid. It may felt like God of war, but It was different in its on way. The story alone was immaculate and different. I haven’t played the others named in the video but if you have a chance play Asura’s Wraith. You won’t be sorry.

  • @TheDiscoGenre
    @TheDiscoGenre Рік тому +13

    The anti-coomer rant wasn't necessary for X-Blades. Its just a bad game that just happened to be coomer stuff.

    • @DarkOverlord96
      @DarkOverlord96 Рік тому +3

      Honestly, it just makes me wonder if TBP resents games from recent years that still have sexualized designs for their female characters.
      Like, if he thinks he can't call NieR: Automata a great game because Yoko Taro is a self-admitted pervert who had 2B designed to have her big ass covered with basically her underwear and with an achievement that you get from looking up her skirt a bunch on times.
      You know, stuff that "gives gaming a bad name" or something.

    • @1eyeddevil929
      @1eyeddevil929 Рік тому +1

      Gaijin gotta project

    • @neliaironwood7573
      @neliaironwood7573 11 місяців тому

      @@DarkOverlord96 Well, at least NieR:Automata plays much better than X-Blades and its not as frustrating as X-Blades, because X-Blades tried to market its game via skimpy girls and it looked terrible. The only character that I know are about as skimpy than Ayumi from X-Blades is the Amazon from Dragon's Crown because she was meant to represent lightly armored female barbarian warriors, but at least that game looked much better than X-Blades though it being a different genre from it.

  • @KennethMoreland
    @KennethMoreland Рік тому +2

    Funny, considering God of War is a Devil May Cry ripoff.

  • @AndreLuis-wo1bo
    @AndreLuis-wo1bo Рік тому +5

    well Deus is also God in Portuguese if that means anything

    • @Bad_Gazpacho
      @Bad_Gazpacho Рік тому

      It's also Latin for God, which I believe is what they were going for.

  • @TheAsianLover
    @TheAsianLover Рік тому +2

    X blades is a game a played on a old 360 demo disc and swiftly forgot it, 4 years later I buy x blades (In the Aus the case is the back half of her) and I played the first level and gave up and it sits on my shelf now.

  • @Twiztedgoalie
    @Twiztedgoalie Рік тому +2

    Deus literally means god. It’s probably just Japan using words that sound cool again. Like how final fantasy somehow has Odin and shiva and bahaumut all blended together despite being from 3 different religions.

    • @DarkOverlord96
      @DarkOverlord96 Рік тому

      Sound cool?
      But all those names for the characters, though?

  • @GekiSonic
    @GekiSonic 9 місяців тому +1

    15:22 Personally that didn't age very well considering the trope of the "strong woman" has gotten oversaturated that it's basically a marketing gimmick now, not to mention being used too often as a smokescreen to deflect anything the paper-skinned PR department behind said properties label as "problematic". As an aside, using footage of Aloy for that section felt like a poor choice considering that, gameplay aside, Horizon had one of the weaker stories I've heard from a piece of fiction in recent memory.
    25:55 From what I've read the real reason the final chapters of Asura's Wrath were made into DLC was because the game file for Asura's Wrath was so massive it _couldn't fit in a PS3 Blu-Ray_ but rather than split the game into 2 discs (like games in the past did), they turned it into DLC.

  • @Darkyan97
    @Darkyan97 Рік тому +4

    Asura's Wrath deserves a remake. It's a one of a kind experience.

  • @theevalatedone3941
    @theevalatedone3941 Рік тому +2

    Isn't the term "Deus" much older than Zeus? It basically means God. It's a reference to Zeus because Zeus is a reference to Deus

    • @Bad_Gazpacho
      @Bad_Gazpacho Рік тому +2

      Greek is older than Latin, so technically Zeus is the older word.

    • @theevalatedone3941
      @theevalatedone3941 Рік тому +1

      @@Bad_Gazpacho yea I did a small check and I see that dyeus came before Zeus and the Deus.

  • @tyronewilliams2638
    @tyronewilliams2638 Рік тому +2

    You mean like God of War is a Devil May Cry knock off?
    Also maybe this was supposed to be a joke, but Deus is latin for God or divine...

    • @neggaballs3840
      @neggaballs3840 Рік тому

      dmc is cringe and nobory gives a f about this franchise

  • @shinotverde2933
    @shinotverde2933 Рік тому +3

    god of war is a knockoff of Rygar

  • @Ronin11111111
    @Ronin11111111 Рік тому +1

    Saying Asura's Wrath took inspiration from GoW in the story department is kind of... I don't wanna say racist, but isn't it obvious it is heavily based on eastern myths? Also Deus just means god. I hope I don't have to explain that.

  • @charleschamp9826
    @charleschamp9826 Рік тому +4

    All I know about Heavenly Sword before this video was that one gif showing the amount of time between an input on the controller and Nariko responding to it. Though after this I wouldn't mind seeing it be revived, starting with porting the first game forward to current systems. Boost the frame rate to 60fps, make it more stable, lower the input response times, revise the controls somewhat, and you can have a similar type of game to God of War that can alternate releases with that series.
    Would like to see Asura's Wrath ported forward, with all the DLC just included in the base game, as well.

    • @elmono6299
      @elmono6299 Рік тому +2

      Please remove the after touch controls and replace them with traditional controls to make some levels playable.

  • @PureMaddnessOne
    @PureMaddnessOne Рік тому +1

    Ideed female protaganists havve been accepted for many years, it is either indeed bad that some ppl want 2 ignore that and really r busy 2 make it that ppl hate women (it is same with black ppl, Asian ppl, LGBT, etc), some of those ppl who r busy doing r working at comanies like Dinse, Mrvel, DC, Warner Bros, etc.
    Would be a interesting fight between Hulk and Asura, heck put DB Heroes version of Brolly in that fight, the universe would break.
    The chick frm X--Blades looks a bit 2 young as well.
    The witches from Knights Contract have been pushed into what they were accused off being. That fits with the earlier that some groups r very gullible and r being lied 2 by a propagandists (like mainstream media is).

  • @deadmanthehekatonkheire994
    @deadmanthehekatonkheire994 Рік тому +3

    I don't get why people accuse Asura's Wrath of being a God of War clone. I mean, I understand why people think the character of Asura is an obvious Kratos rip off. I think that, too, and it sort of turned me off to the games. But upon playing them, I kind of figure it's its own game. Althougfh, Asura is still a clear Kratos clone.

    • @shoken4421
      @shoken4421 Рік тому +1

      @deadmanthehekatonkheire994
      tell me how you think asura is a clone of kratos?
      Lemme give you some glaring differences 1)asura is based of Hindu and Japanese folklore where kratos is based off Greek mythology
      2) asura uses martial arts where kratos uses weapons
      3) asura wrath comes from him being a father who is kept from his daughter who is a mini goddess, kratos accidentally murdered his family and is wearing their ashes
      Kratos fought gods of Olympus and became the god of war , asura literally fought the very good of his universe,not the planet not a realm of gods but the literal creator of thier known universe. These things set kratos and asura so far apart it's not even close .
      Asuras wrath was loosely based on journey to the west about son Goku . It had nothing literally nothing to do with being even a remote god of war clone ,heck the stages and playstyle of the two characters is different.

  • @shoken4421
    @shoken4421 Рік тому +2

    Asuras wrath wasn't a god of war clone ,the game itself is based loosely on Hindu and Japanese mythology where God of war was based on Greek and some Norse mythology. Kratos was tricked into killing his family, asuras daughter was kidnapped by his comrades in the hopes of getting stronger and thus purifying the galaxy which is why they became the seven deity's. Asura ends up fighting the very creator of his universe chakra vartan. There is literally so much that keeps asura from being even remotely close to kratos it's not even funny ,the time setting for one thing being that most of kratos games feature him fighting in ancient times where asuras story was based around tech and Hindu and Japanese teachings,the story is more akin to journey to the west which is the story of son Goku (not of dragon ball origin) than kratos,noone at Capcom said hey let's make a god of war knock off . Please get your facts straight before you lie on the people that made asuras wrath again .

  • @mistahbeardo
    @mistahbeardo Рік тому +2

    A few GoW knockoffs you should check out are Splatterhouse (2010), Conan (2007), and Disney's Bolt.

  • @HistoryandHeadlines
    @HistoryandHeadlines 9 місяців тому +1

    What is your favorite God of War knockoff?

  • @elmono6299
    @elmono6299 Рік тому +3

    I actually liked Heavenly Sword, and I enjoyed the game for its story, hack & slash mechanics, art direction, and Andy Serkis as King Bohan. I also fond Nariko to be pretty hot and easily one of my video game crushes. However, my biggest criticism about that game has got to be the terrible "After Touch" controls, which feels like a poor attempt to copy the Wii's motion controls with the PS3 controller but it was very tedious to control and it made some levels almost unplayable for how frustrating they are. It doesn't help the fact they're done in airplane style controls.

  • @grawman67
    @grawman67 Рік тому +1

    Games with women have sold pretty well for decades. Tomb Raider was as big as it was because if Laura and its marketing. And Metroid sold well despite Samus being a woman.
    Besides that though, honestly, I get not being a fan of Ayumi from X-Blades' design. Yeah, it's purely for fan service but that kind of character design has always existed and sold. I can't blame them for it and it's not really worth getting mad because of the design in my book but I respect your opinion.
    I can blame them for not putting more work into the game itself though and it not being fun. It should've been an actually good game.

  • @FallenDemonFly
    @FallenDemonFly 11 місяців тому +1

    honestly besides angry dad fighting gods, there is nothing even remotely similar to GoW, the charakters are different, they have vastly different settings, the combat is more akin to DmC and quick time events are Cinematic.
    its more like an interactive movie with some DmC styled gameplay.
    If every hack n slash is a GoW knockoff because it is a hack n slash, then GoW is a Devil May cry knockoff?

  • @elrickking9293
    @elrickking9293 11 місяців тому +1

    Taking into account that Gow is in itself a Knockoff from prince of persia, rayman, tomb raider, rygar, and a dumbed/slowed down combo system from ninja gaiden and devil may cry.

  • @donovanfaust3227
    @donovanfaust3227 Рік тому +1

    Imagine thinking Deus as a name was taken from Zeus and not from the latin word deus meaning god lol

  • @mrsunshine8347
    @mrsunshine8347 11 місяців тому +1

    Deus means god... Also I don't want to live in a world where people think GoW invented light and heavy attacks. Whoever thinks Asuras Wrath is a GoW clone should get their head checked.

  • @Chamomileable
    @Chamomileable Рік тому +2

    I was a little disappointed not to see the PS2 Nightmare Before Christmas game on your list. While obviously the movie is a cultural touchstone in the west, there was actually a PS2 game that, for all intents and purposes, was a pretty decent blend of GoW and DMC gameplay. It just didn't sell very well from what I understand and there wasn't much interest in making a series out of the license.

  • @frankthebutcher6679
    @frankthebutcher6679 Рік тому +1

    I loved Asuras Wrath.....but as for it being better than God of War, it's obviously a knock off but it's it's own thing enough

  • @felman87
    @felman87 Рік тому +1

    I remember Conan the Barbarian being one of those God of War clones. I saw it and thought "hey, this looks pretty good for the PS2" only to realize it was actually on the HD consoles. I remember it being ok, with the gimmick being you can pick up weapons that are dropped by enemies.
    Oh yeah, there was also a licensed game that wanted to mimic God of War. Ghost Rider. Yeah, the Nicholas Cage movie got a video game adaptation. As for why most people didn't hear about it, well it was released in February 13th 2007. Literally a month before God of War 2 would drop on March 13th 2007. But, if you couldn't wait any longer for God of War, didn't have a PS3 and needed something to play in the meantime until GOW2 did release, it did the job.

  • @brainchild8626
    @brainchild8626 11 місяців тому +1

    Out of all the ones you mentioned... Asura's Wrath was the best one.. 😏😂😂