It's because when players drastically have higher performance ratings online compared to their OTB Blitz play it simply doesn't make any sense at all. Mouse movement and increments simply do not explain it because you could use all the top players as a barometer proving that wrong. Except for hikaru of course l.ao. And when people do not play like their ratings suggests and it happens so often it gives the perception that the ratings are so undermined they are completely meaningless.
Should have called Magnus and asked him what's up and talked in weird code. Yeah Edward is 3 now!? You think he wants a horse for his birthday!? Ahh, yes I forgot about the religious ceremony coming down from afar. Hopefully he remembers there is a castle in his way this time. Alright, check you later king! *hang up*
hes completely lost the thread, hes convinced he's good enough beat everyone easy. he's just not at that level online. he sees everything as suspicious even when the numbers he looks at say something else
He would crush you. What are you talking about? He was still rank 9 at 48 - 2753 Fide. Still stronger than Hans; probably not at bullet though. Hans has very good intuition Kramnick not so much but at classical he would get clapped even today.
more than half the people online cheat. When you see someones rating you expect a certain level of play and guys at Kramniks level can easily tell when its not. The fact is the mmr and ratings online in general, are completely meaningless. they literally mean nothing and it can become frustrating. A 1500 player might play like someone way under 1000 or way above 2000. There is no consistency and its obvious as to why. Because of guys like Aman cheating for a living by speedrunning, Which the website unprecedently and historically publicly condones, using multiple accounts is literally fashionable in online gaming communities. I might as well assume you have more than one account even though thats against TOS. You don't even have to answer its a rhetorical quesiton of course you do. Otherwise you wouldn't even make an ignorant comment like this. I literally don't know anyone who plays on a single account thats not titled, besides me. Online gaming will never be respected by general society. Maybe Aman is a fan of the WWE because thats all chess will be seen as, with the only difference being chess will be seen as a childs game. All Kramnik is saying publicly is what everyone who is an adult and not nuts has already been thinking for years.
According to Kramnik, it's suspicious when his opponent has 90%+ accuracy, even if Kramnik played badly. When his opponent has lower accuracy, it's still suspicious if the opponent only started to blunder later in the game. By those standards, when is the opponent not suspicious?
IM Daniel Rensch explain the accuracy percentage is just there to give newbie players, who have no idea of chess as they are just learning to move the pieces, an overall measurement of how they did in the game. It was never designed for higher rated players to use, especially professional titled chess players, let alone GMs. That's why you see many 1000 elo games with 80, 90 percent accuracy. Are they secretly GMs stuck at 1000 elo? No. Kramnik probably missed the memo.
I can tell you accuracy doesn’t mean anything. Im like 800-900 atm and I’ve got a few 100% games in my account (very short obviously) and loads of games in the high 90s with 20-30+ moves. People are just way better than they used to be, people know much more theory and there’s way more people playing. At my level I often play people who know all the lines of their specific opening they use and can play quite regularly at like 1000 points above their ELO level, it’s just they collapse when someone deviates from what they know (myself included)
If you’re not losing in the opening to Kram you’re cheating. Impossible that you have more knowledge of the theory and ideas of positions than the Champ!
At first I thought you beat him, considering the way Vlad was talking in the intro clip. He's even paranoid about cheating when he wins? That's next-level.
if he doesn't win smoothly against a "random" GM, or online specialist IM/FM his paranoia insta activates, he can only be in trouble against top 100 guys or retired chess legends
If you have more than one account your a cheater with a fake rating too bud. I understand you follow these streamers smurfing for entertainment and think its no big deal. But it is. Its a huge deal and its why online gaming will never be respected by general society. Everyone cheats in some form or another online and its pretty disgusting. Its literally a cesspool and all kramnik is doing is saying what all mature adults with a sense pf sports already think. When ratings literally mean nothing online because players are all over the map regardless of what their rating it is, its frustrating. Especially suspicious at such a high level.
Actually I'm impressed with Kramnik. He "quit" online chess for years, after he'd lose on time in winning positions. But man, he clicked slower than my grandpa back then. And now he's on a par with the best online players. Wow. Unironically impressive.
Add Kramnick to the long list of boomers who lost their minds with age. "I was world champion how could some regular GM kid almost draw me? SUSPICIOUS! CONCERNING!". note: I'm nearly a boomer too, gonna try hard not to yell at kids these days in 5 years. Wish me luck.
Well he wouldn't be wrong. Cause Aman built his career on smurfing online for a living. I wouldn't put anything past him. "they get their rating points back" is the excuse for anonymously undermining the mmr and robbing unsuspecting players of an expected competitive match for views and ad money. Literally teaching kids to manipulate ratings and prioritize that over sportsmanship and competitiveness. You sound like a cheater. Which is probably half the playerbase. I bet you have more than one account even though that is against the TOS for what should be obvious reasons to someone mature and honest. Then again you are not getting any sports sense from watching these streamers. I also get frustrated at the fact ratings literally don't mean a damn thing online. Aman is breeding cheaters like you everytime he smurfs for "entertainment and education" ....RIP chess. How fake, dishonest and immature online gaming is, is probably a culture shock for Kramnik and he is embarrassed for even playing on the site.
@@JackMott Thats because us boomers know half the people online cheat. For example, a kid like you thinks there is nothing wrong with using more than one account undermining the mmr. But that makes you another cheater buddy. And Streamers like Aman smurfing for entertainment are part of the problem. That literally encourages the manipulation of ratings and prioritizing that over competitive matchups. When ratings literally mean nothing online because they don't correlate with any sort of consistent expected performance, especially at such a high level as Kramniks, its pretty sad and frustrating. This is all a culture shock to him.
During this game, Vlad was ranting on his stream about how fast the kids play today and "speculating" whether or not Aman was using a bot 😂😂 And this from someone who plays online speed chess rarely and was using the two click method with no premoves enabled (actually I'm impressed he was able to keep ahead of the increment during the scramble with zero mouse skills). He's totally lost it. It's a real shame, actually. Top 10 all time player reduced to this...
He's now also obsessed with CAPS and spent a lot of the stream trying to match the accuracy from any given online speed game to a classical FIDE rating 🤔, completely ignoring the fact that CAPS also depends on how well your opponent lets you play And saying that it's suspicious that a GM would play at "86 level" is clearly ridiculous. Tin hat territory
Kramnik's gigantic ego won't allow him to accept that he's over the hill now. Also remember that nobody is allowed to refute his amateur statistics unless they're a Fields Medalist mathematician.
It's like he explains why he loses, confirms why he loses, yet his Ego still steps in and is "no, no, no. you are a World Champion, you cannot be wrong"
I mean he is a top 10 player of all time and a former world champion who beat Kasparov to do so. He's a chess legend, he's just seemed to have dropped the ball recently.
2:31 is where Big Vlad will accuse you of cheating. Problem with the former World Champion is his ego. People play chess with all sorts of styles. Just because someone is significantly lower rated than you doesn’t mean that they swindled you…… unless of course they possess the Lord of the Beads.
Kramnik does not understand that 1- he's getting old 2- he's not as good at speed chess as he is / was at classical. So he thinks everyone's a cheater. Im sure in Classical OTB he would destroy some of these fide masters he plays online and who are this "strong" in blitz and bullet ... but he's not playing OTB and he's not playing classical.
this theme ramped up REAL QUICK .... it's like going to DISNEYLAND... AND you get on some new "SPACE RIDE" ..... and .... AND ....... ...... YOU GET LAUNCHED INTO FREAKING SPACE 🚀
If your reading this Mr Kramnik. GM Aman Hambelton achived his last norm by beating Alei Shirov in Rekjavik. he can beat anyone on any given day. Hes also a great comedian.
Kramnik trying to up hambletons percentage is like me "33%? Okay, but I played very sharp so its more like 45%. And I got in time trouble and played bad at the end so like 62%. And I played novelty so that cant have helped so like 65%. Also, I mouseslipped a piece so like 73%. On top of that my opponent really dragged me down to their level so actually 87%. Finally, my friend called me and that distracted me so I actually played an immortal with 98% accuracy!!!"
You should play the Jerome against Kramnik. With such a strong opening at your meager level, Kramnik will know you are cheating for sure. But it should definitely get you a win against him.
bro i'm pretty far from even 2k so to me this early and mid-game looked like you're about to style on him. wasn't this position just winning? i didn't expect you to even draw, let alone lose, rip
Kramnik is sounding like me, “why can’t I just have an easy game?” “How can they put up such resistance”
Haha. I don't like easy games unless I'm like 20 points away from a barrier. Then I'm dying for a free win 🤭
It's because when players drastically have higher performance ratings online compared to their OTB Blitz play it simply doesn't make any sense at all. Mouse movement and increments simply do not explain it because you could use all the top players as a barometer proving that wrong. Except for hikaru of course l.ao. And when people do not play like their ratings suggests and it happens so often it gives the perception that the ratings are so undermined they are completely meaningless.
Aman throwing so that Kramnik can sleep at night. What a gentleman.
Dude, seriously, it sucks getting old.
sure. just look at their rating lol
still interesting to Kramnik
He lost to a 1900 in the Olympiad. Probably didn't want to cheat against Kramnik is more like it lmao.
@@RichACBlues "he lost one game to a low rated player who was probably underated, so he's cheating"
you shoulda gone and opened the door for eric in a critical position
Should have called Magnus and asked him what's up and talked in weird code. Yeah Edward is 3 now!? You think he wants a horse for his birthday!? Ahh, yes I forgot about the religious ceremony coming down from afar. Hopefully he remembers there is a castle in his way this time. Alright, check you later king! *hang up*
@@ItsYouAreNotYour This has to be a reference to something because its just too perfect, well done man
@@christoskoukas8856 haha thanks.
@@christoskoukas8856chess players are clever 😊
@@ItsYouAreNotYour your comment is very... interesting
Lose on purpose to avoid getting called a cheater lmfao
#RespectBrah
*Gets called a cheater anyways*
he is a world champoin wdym?
Aman lost to a 1900 in the olympiad lol. Probably didn't want to cheat against Kramnik is more like it.
@@RichACBluesImagine being dumb enough to think aman hambleton is a cheater.
hes completely lost the thread, hes convinced he's good enough beat everyone easy. he's just not at that level online. he sees everything as suspicious even when the numbers he looks at say something else
He gotta have his Kasparov moment and play these guys in OTB tourneys to see where he's really at
He would crush you. What are you talking about? He was still rank 9 at 48 - 2753 Fide. Still stronger than Hans; probably not at bullet though. Hans has very good intuition Kramnick not so much but at classical he would get clapped even today.
@@Joshwaheazo reading is hard, try not to skip words
more than half the people online cheat. When you see someones rating you expect a certain level of play and guys at Kramniks level can easily tell when its not. The fact is the mmr and ratings online in general, are completely meaningless. they literally mean nothing and it can become frustrating. A 1500 player might play like someone way under 1000 or way above 2000. There is no consistency and its obvious as to why. Because of guys like Aman cheating for a living by speedrunning, Which the website unprecedently and historically publicly condones, using multiple accounts is literally fashionable in online gaming communities. I might as well assume you have more than one account even though thats against TOS. You don't even have to answer its a rhetorical quesiton of course you do. Otherwise you wouldn't even make an ignorant comment like this. I literally don't know anyone who plays on a single account thats not titled, besides me. Online gaming will never be respected by general society. Maybe Aman is a fan of the WWE because thats all chess will be seen as, with the only difference being chess will be seen as a childs game. All Kramnik is saying publicly is what everyone who is an adult and not nuts has already been thinking for years.
@@cooloutac That's the stupidest thing I have read this month and I read a lot of youtube comments
According to Kramnik, it's suspicious when his opponent has 90%+ accuracy, even if Kramnik played badly. When his opponent has lower accuracy, it's still suspicious if the opponent only started to blunder later in the game. By those standards, when is the opponent not suspicious?
When you're Kramnik, everyone is suspicious
IM Daniel Rensch explain the accuracy percentage is just there to give newbie players, who have no idea of chess as they are just learning to move the pieces, an overall measurement of how they did in the game. It was never designed for higher rated players to use, especially professional titled chess players, let alone GMs. That's why you see many 1000 elo games with 80, 90 percent accuracy. Are they secretly GMs stuck at 1000 elo? No. Kramnik probably missed the memo.
I can tell you accuracy doesn’t mean anything. Im like 800-900 atm and I’ve got a few 100% games in my account (very short obviously) and loads of games in the high 90s with 20-30+ moves. People are just way better than they used to be, people know much more theory and there’s way more people playing.
At my level I often play people who know all the lines of their specific opening they use and can play quite regularly at like 1000 points above their ELO level, it’s just they collapse when someone deviates from what they know (myself included)
he's not saying they are cheating. but he will vehemently disagree with anyone who says they are not cheating
If you’re not losing in the opening to Kram you’re cheating. Impossible that you have more knowledge of the theory and ideas of positions than the Champ!
At first I thought you beat him, considering the way Vlad was talking in the intro clip. He's even paranoid about cheating when he wins? That's next-level.
if he doesn't win smoothly against a "random" GM, or online specialist IM/FM his paranoia insta activates, he can only be in trouble against top 100 guys or retired chess legends
If you have more than one account your a cheater with a fake rating too bud. I understand you follow these streamers smurfing for entertainment and think its no big deal. But it is. Its a huge deal and its why online gaming will never be respected by general society. Everyone cheats in some form or another online and its pretty disgusting. Its literally a cesspool and all kramnik is doing is saying what all mature adults with a sense pf sports already think. When ratings literally mean nothing online because players are all over the map regardless of what their rating it is, its frustrating. Especially suspicious at such a high level.
@RichACBlues Are you accusing Aman of cheating? Don't be a bitch about it. Wait, actually are you Kramnik on a separate account???
@@MatsMatsuohahahha could not have said it better myself 💯
@@RichACBlues When I get bored I purposely drop my rating to 800 so I can smash on people with pre moves the whole game only
Actually I'm impressed with Kramnik. He "quit" online chess for years, after he'd lose on time in winning positions. But man, he clicked slower than my grandpa back then. And now he's on a par with the best online players. Wow. Unironically impressive.
What is dis "Aman Hambleton?" Sounds cheater.
Add Kramnick to the long list of boomers who lost their minds with age. "I was world champion how could some regular GM kid almost draw me? SUSPICIOUS! CONCERNING!". note: I'm nearly a boomer too, gonna try hard not to yell at kids these days in 5 years. Wish me luck.
@@JackMottGood luck!
@@JackMottsad thing is bro is only 48yo. Can you imagine the level of paranoia when he's like 70??
Well he wouldn't be wrong. Cause Aman built his career on smurfing online for a living. I wouldn't put anything past him. "they get their rating points back" is the excuse for anonymously undermining the mmr and robbing unsuspecting players of an expected competitive match for views and ad money. Literally teaching kids to manipulate ratings and prioritize that over sportsmanship and competitiveness. You sound like a cheater. Which is probably half the playerbase. I bet you have more than one account even though that is against the TOS for what should be obvious reasons to someone mature and honest. Then again you are not getting any sports sense from watching these streamers. I also get frustrated at the fact ratings literally don't mean a damn thing online. Aman is breeding cheaters like you everytime he smurfs for "entertainment and education" ....RIP chess. How fake, dishonest and immature online gaming is, is probably a culture shock for Kramnik and he is embarrassed for even playing on the site.
@@JackMott Thats because us boomers know half the people online cheat. For example, a kid like you thinks there is nothing wrong with using more than one account undermining the mmr. But that makes you another cheater buddy. And Streamers like Aman smurfing for entertainment are part of the problem. That literally encourages the manipulation of ratings and prioritizing that over competitive matchups. When ratings literally mean nothing online because they don't correlate with any sort of consistent expected performance, especially at such a high level as Kramniks, its pretty sad and frustrating. This is all a culture shock to him.
Kramnik finally plays the legendary ChessBra
Wait until he plays ChessPanties
im impressed how fast your boi vlad played in the end
Not being reported by Kramnik is the true win here.
Imagine Aman at the end.
"How do you type this? V-L-A... who the heck is that guy?"
bro no way this is gold
kramnik: very very inturesting, let's snipe him
Kramnik: This gameplay is interesting. We should have a look.
What a compliment from Kramnik, him looking you up to see if you're for real.
He really did all this, so he could start cheating and no one ever suspect him of it
First time I saw Vlad win a time scramble.
Does he not know who you are?
Like he didn't have a 3 hour interview with Eric last week!
Lmao yes Kramnik should also know Erics in laws and boyfriends too right?!
Only three? It felt like six
KRAMNIK! is the interjection i shout when i feel cheated on. it's a little bit like DAMN, but with KR and a nik
You're joking, but I legitimately have started to say 'interesting' everytime I suspect cheating because of the Kramnik saga
KR and a what?? 😧
During this game, Vlad was ranting on his stream about how fast the kids play today and "speculating" whether or not Aman was using a bot 😂😂
And this from someone who plays online speed chess rarely and was using the two click method with no premoves enabled (actually I'm impressed he was able to keep ahead of the increment during the scramble with zero mouse skills).
He's totally lost it. It's a real shame, actually. Top 10 all time player reduced to this...
He's now also obsessed with CAPS and spent a lot of the stream trying to match the accuracy from any given online speed game to a classical FIDE rating 🤔, completely ignoring the fact that CAPS also depends on how well your opponent lets you play
And saying that it's suspicious that a GM would play at "86 level" is clearly ridiculous. Tin hat territory
Where is he streaming? I wanted to see if there was a vod but I can't figure out what platform he's streaming on
shut your yappin about all this and tell us where to find his stream 🎉🎉
Kramnik's gigantic ego won't allow him to accept that he's over the hill now. Also remember that nobody is allowed to refute his amateur statistics unless they're a Fields Medalist mathematician.
Johnny Sins is now a chess commentator, what a talented man
We are breaking the fourth wall
What a perfect coincidence! Playing against Kramnik is quite an experience. Well played!
Loved kramik's queen trap idea in the beginning.
damn I thought that was a free pawn until I saw your comment. Great play by him
What are you talking about? Qb5+, Bd7, Qxc5, e5?
@@88mphDrBrown Yeah. A lesser player would run straight into that without a second thought 😁
Looks like Vlad gave you 30 second 'daughter home from school' headstart
duo cam would have been amazing, i guess the world is not yet ready for that high dosage of extreme entertainment ;D
This guy Vlad is pretty good. Seems like he's going places.
"Have to be careful, don't want to be called a cheater"
Unlucky Aman, on the plus side he didn't report you....WIN! 😁
They say that after this game Kramnik went and reported himself as suspicious
A most interesting match.
It's like he explains why he loses, confirms why he loses, yet his Ego still steps in and is "no, no, no. you are a World Champion, you cannot be wrong"
You have SOME skills man, playing the entire middle and end game with 2 seconds on the clock!
Respect for waiting at the start
Kramnik really showed his mouse skills against that youngster here.
😂😂😂😂 why cant vlad just get an EZ game brah! lol loved the intro
The reason he took so long at the beginning was because he was filing a fairplay report.
at this point i bet i can beat toilet gate
imagine being world champ and then losing every marbel, well not the first time...
i hope Kramnik wore his mask to keep him supersafe behind his pc 😂
Stockfish recommends waiting until 2:29 as part of the psychological battle.
What does Kramnik expect? Aman is a Grand Master... He is not just going to roll over and lose.
I respect that you respect Kramnik
I mean he is a top 10 player of all time and a former world champion who beat Kasparov to do so. He's a chess legend, he's just seemed to have dropped the ball recently.
I love the way Aman plays the game.
This was essentially an exchange Caro-Kann.
Why do you let your time run so low?
haven't watched the video yet but just wanted to know if the comments about him throwing the game to let Kramnik win a joke or real?
hard to tell....i mean he was moving slow as f**k to the point i thought he was going to just let the clock run out for the memes
Somebody please check him PC. This is not normally. Very exotic moves. Sorry for bad Englando
Kramnik complaining about how accurate Amand was in a pretty common London game lol
Track at 10:15 ?
dude thought he was Caesar's wife
2:31 is where Big Vlad will accuse you of cheating. Problem with the former World Champion is his ego. People play chess with all sorts of styles. Just because someone is significantly lower rated than you doesn’t mean that they swindled you…… unless of course they possess the Lord of the Beads.
I find it very very interesting that you paired with Kramnik.
If you win, he will ask you where are you looking at?
i like kramnik's green screen
Kramnik was suspicious GM didn't lose badly enough? That's pretty insulting- I wouldn't show such courtesy waiting for him next time. Flag him.
sounds like a good time to do the procedure
at 9:55 aman has Rxa6
that just hangs the bishop
Yeah because if Nxd8, Kxb5 because the pawn that was defending rook is now gone.
If you go into games thinking everyone is cheating against you, you will end up playing even worse chess subconsciously to justify your suspicions.
You couldn't script it.
I'm confused. How doesnt he know Aman? DIdnt they interview him on the chessbrah channel?
He only talked to Aman's boyfriend Eric.
When comes the next hikaru impression? The first two were hilarious and i cant wait to see another one
Where is vladmirs stream? Can’t find it on youtube
Kramnik does not understand that 1- he's getting old 2- he's not as good at speed chess as he is / was at classical. So he thinks everyone's a cheater. Im sure in Classical OTB he would destroy some of these fide masters he plays online and who are this "strong" in blitz and bullet ... but he's not playing OTB and he's not playing classical.
According to my statistics, Kramnik played an "interesting" game, farming a known streamer.
A chessbrah... interesting 😉
this theme ramped up REAL QUICK
....
it's like going to DISNEYLAND...
AND you get on some new "SPACE RIDE"
.....
and ....
AND
....... ......
YOU GET LAUNCHED INTO FREAKING
SPACE 🚀
There are two possibilities when you play Kramnik. You lose easily, or you're cheating.
I also play at a much higher precision before my blunders.
Kramnik finds the chances very interesting
If your reading this Mr Kramnik. GM Aman Hambelton achived his last norm by beating Alei Shirov in Rekjavik. he can beat anyone on any given day. Hes also a great comedian.
kramnik is superstrong still at age of 48!
Need a side by side of the streams
Kramnik don´t understand that online chess is a complete apart universe.
Aman playing at 82% very suspicious
was kramnik streaming???
Aman Hanbleton? Sounds like a fake name.
Kramnik trying to up hambletons percentage is like me "33%? Okay, but I played very sharp so its more like 45%. And I got in time trouble and played bad at the end so like 62%. And I played novelty so that cant have helped so like 65%. Also, I mouseslipped a piece so like 73%. On top of that my opponent really dragged me down to their level so actually 87%. Finally, my friend called me and that distracted me so I actually played an immortal with 98% accuracy!!!"
Big Vlad is the best paid actor in the chess community-- nobody can convince me otherwise.
He went Kramnik
Kramnik is a beast 💪
Hell yeah no ones messing with old kramnik best legit Player on earth!!!
Aman, you called this upon yourself! 🙂 Love your videos!
I actually kinda feel bad for Kramnik. Yeah it is funny, but the guy has also really lost the plot.
He can't handle having a bruised ego. I don't feel sorry for him.
Kramnik should change his name to Dunning-Kruger. Vlunning Krauger
Bro really looked up who is Aman despite talking for 3hours with Aman's boyfriend not even a month ago. 😤
Kramnik didn't have time to go to the toilet this time.
You should play the Jerome against Kramnik. With such a strong opening at your meager level, Kramnik will know you are cheating for sure. But it should definitely get you a win against him.
Name of the song?
Darude sandstorm
How can they put up so much resistance. Got to be the most Russian statement
8:43, 9:50 bro, you've gotta let that locked up girl go.....
31 second odds 😂
this game was... very very intrestink
CHESS BOXING should settle it
You be careful Aman he may accuse you of cheating 😂
bro i'm pretty far from even 2k so to me this early and mid-game looked like you're about to style on him. wasn't this position just winning? i didn't expect you to even draw, let alone lose, rip
Surprised you didnt play 1. e4 against him 😊.