🕳️ Inside a Book of Mormon Pentecostal "Hole-in-the-Wall" Church
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- You often hear about "hole in the wall" restaurants. They're not big, bright, or flashy. They don't really look like much from the outside, often overlooked, and people will pass it up for something more expensive. But for the few who do go inside, some may find the best burger or fries in the state. The restaurant focuses on what's most important with the ingredients.
By request after a captivating interview found at @MormonBookReviews, Week 31 goes through the Crossroads of America as we venture inside a Book of Mormon-believing Pentecostal church. Rainy and dreary, with the church and neighborhood so small, there was a special "hole-in-the-wall" beauty inside - which resonated when hymn #52 got called out to sing "The Sea So Great, Lord, My Boat So Small." No flashy lights, no 100-member choir, and no music. They had the essentials - a podium, some pews, Songs of Zion hymn books, and air ventilation. But the main ingredient was Jesus Christ and that focus made this visit all the more impactful.
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▶️ Timestamps:
0:00 Studebaker Museum
0:38 Week 31
1:05 By Request
2:40 "The Sea So Great, Lord, My Boat So Small"
3:52 Raw Beauty in Smaller Setting
6:45 History of The Church of Jesus Christ
9:14 Warm Embrace and Pentecostal Church Service
12:20 My Talk Based on Hymn 52
14:00 The Essentials and Red Font BoM
15:25 Be Blessed
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Hymn: "The Sea So Great, Lord, My Boat So Small" from Arlene Lea Buffington
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Thanks to everyone at The Church of Jesus Christ for the warm welcome, you truly made me feel a part of this congregation - even if only for this day.
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I know you're a busy guy, but I'll be at the branch in South Bend this weekend. Would love to see you!
David, this is Annie, remember me??? I am the one who keeps telling you to keep following the Cardinals?? We are not part of this Pentacostal church. Never heard of them before. Interesting though. Still reading the Book of Mormon?? Hope so.
@@ErieBranchTCOJC Thanks for the invite! Won't be able to soon, but I'd enjoy coming back in the near future.
@@Annie-ll2jp Hey Annie, always great to hear from you. Been on the road a lot. One thing that has helped is the Book of Mormon video series. That's been a nice entry point to understand more. Hope you're doing well.
@@52churchesin52weeks It is always good to hear from you too David. I am glad to hear that your still reading the Book of Mormon and I am glad the videos are helping too. Your on the right path. 🤗🤗💞
Proud to say I am apart of that church! Thank for visiting one of our branches
Never let a lack of talent hold you back from singing praises to God.
I’m glad you had such a nice experience with The Church of Jesus Christ. I am not a member, but I love attending their meetings as well. They are a truly blessed, Spirit-filled people.
I really love your honesty and candor. I love listening to you tell about each experience. I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and I really look forward to your videos. Thanks for all you do!
The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite) are amazing people. We at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints love our brothers in the Book of Mormon!
Wow - They are singing The Songs of Zion - wonderful!
In the main LDS church, the first Sunday of the month is set aside for fasting (24hrs) and there are no assigned speakers in the Sacrament meeting. Instead, members who feel moved upon by the Spirit can come to the podium to bear their testimony of Christ. Sometimes events make us move Fast Sunday forward or back a week.
Fasting for 2 meals.. not 24hrs. Usually breakfast and lunch. :)
@@alexbrunt897 You time when dinner is right and it can be 2 meals over a 24hr period.
It is improper to refer to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the “main church” just because it is the largest. A better moniker to use is the Brighamite branch of Mormonism.
@@stokenasty Actually one of the meanings of main is "chief in size" so it being the biggest makes it the main one by definition.
@@incogneato790 classic brighamite Mormon negating everyone else in the space. Maybe you should learn the real history of your church before being so ignorant
I have watched many of your videos and I am loving them. I appreciate your authenticity and attitude for each church. I am especially excited to see you attend Restored churches that teach the Book of Mormon. The second testament of Christ is so important. I love the analogy that if you just have one fixed point (doctrine of the Bible) you can still interpret it 360* ways. We see that with each denomination being different. If you have a second point or testament, it gives you a clear understanding of what is intended. I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints. The first Sacrament Meeting of the month in our church is called Testimony meeting where there are no talks assigned but anyone who is moved may go up and share their thoughts, feelings and testimony, much like the service you just attended here. The very best and most unique thing about our church is that people are not converted by convincing them of the doctrine but that the Holy Ghost testifies to them that which is true. It’s the warm feeling in your chest or the still small voice in your head or that sense of I have never heard this before but somehow I remember it. You will be given signs from Heavenly Father that eventually you can’t deny are on purpose. I hope you continue on this journey. Has anyone taught you the Plan of Salvation or sometimes called the Plan of Happiness? You should ask the missionaries. Have a blessed week and I’ll be watching you next time!!
I met you at the Book of Mormon Rally in Independence. I so much appreciate the service you are doing for so many with all these videos that help us know what others around us believe and do to serve the Lord. Hopefully, all can find a place where they really belong.
Thanks for coming out to attend! Think it helps to get a sample of what other churches are like. You nailed it, we all can benefit being the church.
I’ve been enjoying these. So far I’ve watched the 2 you did on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and now this one. I really love that “I’m too blessed to be stressed” quote & will remember it! Thanks for sharing 😊
Hey Phil, thanks for checking out some of the videos. Glad to hear it had a positive impact!
Watched this video with a lot of interest, as I've seen these churches near here in the greater Pittsburgh area for many years and I was really curious. And now I know. I can see what their church is about.
To blessed to be stressed! What a great outlook. Thanks for sharing.
You are absolutely fantastic in your travels and your dialogue about your visits in churches. So much history involved in churches throughout the US I am LDS my home is Monterey California but I've traveled the states over and been in many of the places that you're covering. Keep up the good work.
Again, thank you very much, David. I love tagging along on your journey. It is wonderful to hear of your great visit. I personally love attending a smaller congregation. I think it is easier to be Christlike in a smaller group because the people are individuals not numbers.
I am loving your attitude. I feel like i'm on the journey with you. Thank you for being you!
Thanks for sharing!! we love this
Love the kindness in your videos!
Thank you for sharing your perspectives and insights without “punching” them.
❤️☀️❤️☀️❤️
Interesting!
definitely! its the truth!☺️
Fun Fact: According to Wikipedia, Alice Cooper was born into that church and his grandpa Thurman Furnier was the president in the sixties but Alice was never baptized.
I´m jealous, I´m a Sidney Rigdon apologist, so I wish I had a Bickertonite church in my city.
be the first member in your area
As a main-stream Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints member, I do remember fondly the informality and spontaneity of my former pentecostal house church. I do love it when we get a Southern Baptist convert who lets loose during a hymn that deserves to raise the rafters; we need a bit more spontaneous enthusiasm and connection.
Just curious How did you go from Pentecostal to LDS? Blessings!
@@user-dk6oo1rg6v Grew up in a relatively religious family, but chose to walk away from God at 12 because, although the message sounded good, it never seemed to make it out the church door to daily life. Stayed as an avowed atheist through college, but worked with a student who belonged to an on-campus Pentecostal group. He had a sense of peace I envied, and his group was open and welcoming, even to a professed atheist. Within a year, I had reconciled with God and joined the house church that the group’s leader belonged to. There were probably 12 core couples in the group, and several dozen other members. We met in one of the Elder’s basements, had Sunday potluck dinners at another’s house, and miscellaneous places for study groups during the week. A year or so into my membership, I connected with a new member and six months later we were married. We started a typing business, moved into a rental home where we could grow the business, and two days after we moved in, the water heater blew up. The house church’s response was: “You must be doing something wrong. Repent!”
We decided to find another church. This was 1974, in Northern Virginia. Think dedication of the Washington Temple. We had had no insurance, so my husband reached back to his military training, and found a job working in nuclear power plants while they were down for maintenance. His first assignment was in Maryland, and as I was driving him to his assignment we passed the DC Temple. He pointed and said, “They’re family oriented. Why don’t you check them out?” I can still feel the hairs on the back of my neck bristle. “You want me to talk to THEM?” Pentecostals typically see The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints as one of the 7 DEADLY CULTS. But he was my husband, so I called them when I got back home.
The evening before the second missionary visit, my step-daughter had a seizure. Not wanting to stand up the missionaries, I called the member who was scheduled to accompany them to let them know I had to take Linda into DC to the doctor’s office. She knew that my husband was out of town, and concerned that Linda might have another seizure while I was driving, she said: “So-and-so lives on your street; why don’t you call her and see if you can borrow her husband to drive you downtown?” Given the underlying currents of gossip and jealousy in the house church and the churches my parents still attended, the phrase “borrow her husband” was mind-boggling. By 10 pm that night, at least 10 members of the ward were downtown with me. I hadn’t read the Book of Mormon, barely knew the Joseph Smith story, knew nothing of church history and polygamy and all the other ‘hazard markers’ of the Church. I simply knew that the gospel I had heard all my life in theory, I was watching in action. I was baptized three months later (1977).
PS. I called my husband in Georgia (his 2nd assignment) and told him I was joining. His response: “I was joking.” Come to find out, he had joined the church as an 18-year-old, newly married soldier in Germany. He was able to be re-baptized in 1978, and we were sealed in the DC temple in 1979.
@@user-dk6oo1rg6v Grew up in a relatively religious family, but chose to walk away from God at 12 because, although the message sounded good, it never seemed to make it out the church door to daily life. Stayed as an avowed atheist through college, but worked with a student who belonged to an on-campus Pentecostal group. He had a sense of peace I envied, and his group was open and welcoming, even to a professed atheist. Within a year, I had reconciled with God and joined the house church that the group’s leader belonged to. There were probably 12 core couples in the group, and several dozen other members. We met in one of the Elder’s basements, had Sunday potluck dinners at another’s house, and miscellaneous places for study groups during the week. A year or so into my membership, I connected with a new member and six months later we were married. We started a typing business, moved into a rental home where we could grow the business, and two days after we moved in, the water heater blew up. The house church’s response was: “You must be doing something wrong. Repent!”
We decided to find another church. This was 1974, in Northern Virginia. Think dedication of the Washington Temple. We had had no insurance, so my husband reached back to his military training, and found a job working in nuclear power plants while they were down for maintenance. His first assignment was in Maryland, and as I was driving him to his assignment we passed the DC Temple. He pointed and said, “They’re family oriented. Why don’t you check them out?” I can still feel the hairs on the back of my neck bristle. “You want me to talk to THEM?” Pentecostals typically see The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints as one of the 7 DEADLY CULTS. But he was my husband, so I called them when I got back home.
The evening before the second missionary visit, my step-daughter had a seizure. Not wanting to stand up the missionaries, I called the member who was scheduled to accompany them to let them know I had to take Linda into DC to the doctor’s office. She knew that my husband was out of town, and concerned that Linda might have another seizure while I was driving, she said: “So-and-so lives on your street; why don’t you call her and see if you can borrow her husband to drive you downtown?” Given the underlying currents of gossip and jealousy in the house church and the churches my parents still attended, the phrase “borrow her husband” was mind-boggling. By 10 pm that night, at least 10 members of the ward were downtown with me. I hadn’t read the Book of Mormon, barely knew the Joseph Smith story, knew nothing of church history and polygamy and all the other ‘hazard markers’ of the Church. I simply knew that the gospel I had heard all my life in theory, I was watching in action. I was baptized three months later (1977).
PS. I called my husband in Georgia (his 2nd assignment) and told him I was joining. His response: “I was joking.” Come to find out, he had joined the church as an 18-year-old, newly married soldier in Germany. He was able to be rebaptized in 1978, and we were sealed in the DC temple in 1979.
@@user-dk6oo1rg6v Grew up in a relatively religious family, but chose to walk away from God at 12 because, although the message sounded good, it never seemed to make it out the church door to daily life. Stayed as an avowed atheist through college, but worked with a student who belonged to an on-campus Pentecostal group. He had a sense of peace I envied, and his group was open and welcoming, even to a professed atheist. Within a year, I had reconciled with God and joined the house church that the group’s leader belonged to. There were probably 12 core couples in the group, and several dozen other members. We met in one of the Elder’s basements, had Sunday potluck dinners at another’s house, and miscellaneous places for study groups during the week. A year or so into my membership, I connected with a new member and six months later we were married. We started a typing business, moved into a rental home where we could grow the business, and two days after we moved in, the water heater blew up. The house church’s response was: “You must be doing something wrong. Repent!”
We decided to find another church. This was 1974, in Northern Virginia. Think dedication of the Washington Temple. We had had no insurance, so my husband reached back to his military training, and found a job working in nuclear power plants while they were down for maintenance. His first assignment was in Maryland, and as I was driving him to his assignment we passed the DC Temple. He pointed and said, “They’re family oriented. Why don’t you check them out?” I can still feel the hairs on the back of my neck bristle. “You want me to talk to THEM?” Pentecostals typically see The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as one of the 7 DEADLY CULTS. But he was my husband, so I called them when I got back home.
The evening before the second missionary visit, my step-daughter had a seizure. Not wanting to stand up the missionaries, I called the member who was scheduled to accompany them to let them know I had to take Linda into DC to the doctor’s office. She knew that my husband was out of town, and concerned that Linda might have another seizure while I was driving, she said: “So-and-so lives on your street; why don’t you call her and see if you can borrow her husband to drive you downtown?” Given the underlying currents of gossip and jealousy in the house church and the churches my parents still attended, the phrase “borrow her husband” was mind-boggling. By 10 pm that night, at least 10 members of the ward were downtown with me. I hadn’t read the Book of Mormon, barely knew the Joseph Smith story, knew nothing of church history and polygamy and all the other ‘hazard markers’ of the Church. I simply knew that the gospel I had heard all my life in theory, I was watching in action. I was baptized three months later (1977).
PS. I called my husband in Georgia (his 2nd assignment) and told him I was joining. His response: “I was joking.” Come to find out, he had joined the church as an 18-year-old, newly married soldier in Germany. He was able to be rebaptized in 1978, and we were sealed in the DC temple in 1979.
In addition to the great job you do of giving good honest reviews of the visits you’ve done to various denominations, I also love your sense of humor. After this 52 weeks and 52 churches, maybe you could do 52 clean comedy clubs.
Also, your explanation of LDS church succession that was a pretty good explanation.
I've never met a member of a different denomination of the latter day saint movement (I'm part of the big salt lake based church). I'm always curious about how they see the world and our shared history. I've had a few FLDS neighbors, but that's obviously vastly different from the saints back east.
Might I humbly suggest that for each church you have visited, if they have a website, you include a link to it in the description?
That's a great idea. I'll have to get some included.
While I was a Catholic I usually preferred to go to small chapels and sometimes daily Mass where unlike Sunday Mass barely anyone attends, it felt more intimate in a way.
Like the other smaller LDS branches I didn't know much about this one besides what I read on Wikipedia so I appreciate you made this video.
Try the Bickerton church again!
Don’t know if you’ve had a chance to visit a small “branch” of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints yet but it’s a little more similar in feel to what you’re describing here. They have small branches at the Grand Canyon, for instance, and out on the reservations in Arizona. Itty bitty buildings and wonderful people. All the same teachings, format, and songs as larger wards- just smaller & more intimate congregations.
On your visits, how often do you disclose who you are and talk about your book or UA-cam channel? Or do you usually try to stay anonymous to get more genuine interactions?
I also do a ministry where I visit different churches and I can say that I personally play it on a church by church basis.
That's a good question. First thing is I'm going in to worship Christ. The documenting aspect makes it extremely memorable and helps my own faith walk, and likewise, hope it helps others faith walks with a pinch of curiosity thrown in. Unconventional for sure. It's a learning process.
Kinda like Adam, disclosure comes down to a case-to-case (... or maybe, it should be church-to-church) basis - moreso as a result of interactions. I want to be genuine and authentic, so there's no use to announce it to everyone. If it gets brought up why I'm visiting by someone in talks, I always will bring up that I visit a new church each week. Some are intrigued, others almost dismiss it and don't acknowledge it. Just never know.
With the Latter-day Saint churches, those have garnered a lot of attention compared to other videos. Thats been a surprise. I'm reassessing if I go to more Restoration churches in the future, if I should proactively bring it up upfront.
Just for information, when the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints passes, the first presidency is dissolved and the Quorum of Twelve Apostles takes over. It is always that the Senior Apostle becomes the new President of the Church.
It isn't always
@@jonathangattocould you add more light?
That has held true to date.
❤ sounds like a great visit. Who publishes that copy of the BOM?
That looks like a community of christ book of mormon to me
Edit: nevermind
Here's a video exploring this book of mormon edition: ua-cam.com/video/qu-42ecvqnk/v-deo.html
It is the one of the copies of The Book of Mormon the missionaries of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints hands out for free. It has nothing to do with the Community of Christ Church. They do their own thing.
That's true the Book of Mormon stand shoulder to shoulder with the Bible in bearing witness to the wicked world that Jesus is the Christ the son of the living GOD.
The Book of Mormon he held up is published by The Church of Jesus Christ with headquarters in Monongahela, PA. We have a couple different bindings with the same copy. All with the words of Christ in red.
You sound like you were so spiritually fed and enjoy feeding others, probably riding a spiritual high, any cardinals in sight?
Hey David, good to hear from you again. No cardinals since the middle of November, not expecting to see any in the middle of winter - but never know.
Brother...Have you been to a fast Sunday of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? I think you would like it. It's a little different service. You can Bare your testimony of Jesus Christ.
Isn’t God in each one of us as we try to do good?... if God is our Father... doesn’t he love Each of his Children that is trying to get close to him as each one of our children tries to get close to us in his / her own way?
I believe God wants us to submit to HIS way, not just do whatever we want our own way. Part of following Christ is sacrificing our own will and obeying God's words. Of course God loves us where we're at, and often tailors or paths and experiences to what will be best for us, but that doesn't mean God hasn't set forth a specific way for us to follow. ♥️
Please visit an orthodox church.
I don't believe Jesus Christ intended for spectator only worship. A life following Jesus Christ is a life of service, sometimes we need to be served, and sometimes we are in a place of strength and can help serve others.
I'm Catholic since the minute l was born. I have visited several different religions and yes they are very very friendly they make you feel so welcome with open arms Jesus said, beware of the wolf in sheep's clothing,they will deceived you, and all the ones that follow them will be like sheep's with out a shepherd all confused
And here's their ceiling fan LOL
The Book of Mormon is a truly born again book of scripture. Its stories and teachings are very Pentecostal in nature, and very much in keeping with the New Testament…
The Mormon church, however, is not. It is dry, uninspired, obsessed with its gerontocracy, and has many current and past teachings unfounded in scripture….
The book ought to be separated from the Church…
Alma 5 !!!
Cab, The Book of Mormon is NOT Pentecost at all....period. As for the rest of what your saying. Your no different than the rest of the anti Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints people running around everywhere. Heard it all and it's not going to change any time soon.
@@rconger24 and many other places. Unfortunately the church that uses the book doesn’t want to preach from it.
@@Annie-ll2jp it is very Pentecostal. The words born again and born of god are used 5x more than in the New Testament with story after story of baptisms of fire and angels visiting men with healings and profound spiritual gifts obtained by the born again believers in Jesus. The LDS church has no business claiming the book as their own as they preach an entirely different doctrine.
@@cab9191 I am not Pentecostal. I don't know anything about the Pentecostal Church. I do know however that The Book of Mormon is Another Testament of Christ.
In The Articles of Faith it says clearly what believe.
We believe the Bible to be the word of God as long as it is translated correctly. We also believe The Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
Separate the Book of Mormon from the Church?? That would be like separating your brain from your body
The number of times that it says born again
The number of times that born again and born of God are found in the Book of Mormon and The New Testament is not important.
A Pentecostal type of gathering, calling themselves the "Church of Jesus Christ", but including the Book of Mormon as a pretense to having legitimacy as a part of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"!! Reminds one of the phrase Jesus used, say "Many shall come in my name, saying *I am Christ, and shall deceive many*!" That appears to be the case in this instance!!
Interesting thought. The Church of Jesus Christ (Monangehela,PA) is in no way affiliated with the LDS group. Most importantly, absolutely none of us claim to be the Christ, only to serve Him. Christ said “if you love Me, keep My commandments.” We are doing our best to do just that, keep His commandments.
We in the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints celebrate every persons belief in Christ and for living the gospel to the best of their ability and knowledge. Well we should be doing that however we have a few Pharisee who end up pushing away people not feeling that they live up to someone’s perceived standards. I think Christ would love and accept each person for their endeavors.
@JB Croft : They call themselves "The Church of Jesus Christ." Maybe you should examine the fruits of said organization?
Lookup: Josh Gehly, Alphonzo Hopkins
I don't attend their church but I can tell their testimonies of Jesus are solid. After you check them out come back and tell us whay you think about them?
@@yeahbutdoesit U da man!
Appreciate your caution to follow scripture and be wary of false christs. Of course this has been true throughout time. We do not profess any such teaching and really aspire to follow Christ's examples such as feet washing. We do not for example baptize the dead or babies, we do not believe in celestial marriage and there are many other distinctions we hold because we believe them to be in direct conflict to the Bible and the Book of Mormon. I think if you were to ever walk in the door of one of our churches what you would be greeted with is Christ's love. God Bless you and I appreciate your concern. I was raised outside of the church and ended up falling in love with it because no where else did I see such love exhibited to me and other's. Miracles I could testify too personally, but the greatest miracle of all is the love of Christ shown by our small church.