✌ Lifetime Protestant Revisits the Mormon Church a 2nd Time
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- Had no intention of visiting the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints for a second time during 52 Churches in 52 Weeks. I wanted to be visiting different denominational and niche churches at this point. But three things happened: 1) Cardinals have appeared to me at the most curious times, including during the drive to my first LDS visit, 2) The outstanding coordination and tremendous follow-up from the young-adult missionaries who invited me, and 3) The LDS I was invited to (that I tried to avoid for the first visit) harkened back to my past. Due to all the coincidences and how everything fell in place, I was extremely curious what the talk would be about... and if it would link to my personal past. I dislike talking about my personal past and want to focus on the churches - this visit was a personal discovery to figure out what might be happening with the strange coincidences that have been happening.
Sure enough, the symbolism in the talk linked instantly back to a period that hit home.
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▶️ Timestamps:
0:00 EAA Museum in Oshkosh, WI
0:32 Back for a Second LDS Look
1:25 Cardinal Coincidences Leads to this Personal Discovery Visit
3:49 First Reaction and Service Time Difficulties
6:32 Brief Look Inside LDS Ward
7:18 Curiosity about Talk
8:36 Outstanding Missionary Work
10:23 Warm Welcome and Talk
12:50 Samson and Delilah Narcisstic Abuse
18:52 Communion
19:33 Church Family Atmosphere
22:33 Outro
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Hi David, I’ve been watching and following your videos. I saw this video you did back when you originally posted it. I came across the below linked video today and you came into my mind and I felt compelled to share it with you. God Bless!
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I'm attending the LDS church for the first time tomorrow. You made me go from nervous to excited. Thank you
How'd it go?
@@52churchesin52weeks it was great. I'm definitely attending again
@@mentalmama85 You'll have to keep me posted.
@@mentalmama85 Run away from the Mormon cult church. The leaders of the church are racists and liars. You need to do some deep research on the early history of the Latter-Day cult church
@@mentalmama85 you still attending? How is it going?
I'm a convert to the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! I remember coming in the first day after the missionaries invited me, and felt so welcome. My parents were getting a divorce at the time, and saw so many families sitting together, and it filled my heart. I knew there was something there, and now I'm since been baptized, married for 14 years now with a wonderful return missionary and 6 beautiful children. I've been blessed beyond what i could ever imagine. Keep pursuing truth and the enlighten pathway where ever that may be. ❤️
You made me cry, the spirit is so strong in you! Thank you for being kind to a church that means everything to my family. You are always welcome. You can't imagine the relief and tenderness an LDS member feels when someone isn't bashing us. We have thick skin, but it's still SO appreciated.
I wandered in darkness for a time with addictions etc and a few years ago truly found Jesus and my true self at the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints with more peace and love than I could have ever imagined. I felt inspired to free myself from all additive substances and have never felt so free thanks to the teachings of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I also started gardening and the combination of filling my heart with God and nature and giving up my addictions and allowing Jesus to take away my sins and pain and I feel reborn and strangely my depression is also gone. I’m so grateful I found my family.
Awesome. Glad to hear that. Thanks for sharing. I joined the church about 30 years ago. Within a month of my baptism, I was able to overcome multiple addictions that I struggled with for years.
What a beautiful testimony! ❤️
That is so great!! Addiction is TERRIBLE!! But it is SO amazing to receive the grace of Jesus Christ when I truly give my life to Him. Beats any drug or activity out there!
Yea I`m 71 and I`ve been kicking that LDS Church thing down the road for quite a while now, and it`s not like I have a lot of time left at my age. It all started with a number of random happenings, the main reason was two young girls from the Salt Lake area in Utah, Abby and Annalie who used to sing on youtube. Religious songs among others, and there was something about the oldest girl, Abby, I couldn`t get her off my mind, it was like she was an old friend or something I don`t know or understand why I felt the way I do, but if it hadn't been for her I probably wouldn`t have given the Church a second thought, thank You, Abby.
To shorten this story up, I came to find out they were members of the LDS Church, which sparked my interest then your videos along with a hundred others or so. I`m semi-crippled due to a spinal cord injury and no longer drive or have a license I have a handicapped cart to get around with, and today was nice so I went for a cruise. There is a small Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints In this little hick town I live in now. So I went to check it out, I`m going to try to kick that can up the street to that church, so wish me luck, I haven`t been in a church in many decades, and it scares me.
I was super scared going back for my first time too. I just took my time. Allowed things to come naturally and didn't allow anyone to try and confuse me or persuade me otherwise. I was going to finish my mission! Haha
So, how did it go?
What a great video! Thank you , Brother for sharing your experience. I am a convert to the church. Funny thing…when I was younger (in high school) I wanted to join the church. I felt God was directing me there but my Catholic parents felt otherwise. So wisely, my parent told me that I must take the next year and visit all the other types of faiths before I (or they) would make a decision on baptism. I took the next year and did just that… visiting churches and the different faiths of all my friends. One of the best pieces of spiritual advice my missionaries gave me was to listen carefully to the Spirit, no matter where I went. That no matter where I was in my journey, the Spirit would ALWAYS bear witness of TRUTH!
So, this was my litmus test for the next year and boy was it a powerful guide! Be mindful of the Holy Spirit.
That experience eventually led me back to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. And thru another miracle, my parents’ hearts were softened and they allowed me to be baptized!
That was 40 years ago. I am still so grateful that the Lord, thru the Holy Ghost led me back “home.”
Thanks for sharing that .
That’s awesome!!
SO cool
I converted to the LDS church about 6 years ago as a lifelong southern Baptist. Keep following the signs and your heart.
That’s sad. You were deceived man
That's amazing! We are so blessed to have Jesus Christ's church back on earth with prophets and apostles
So you converted to the Christianity to the Mormonism. Veri pitty!
The heart is full of deceit.
Please man don’t stop your research, you are in error but don’t take it from me please just keep studying, not just through the lens of the LDS church but from the other side too. Please
I want to thank you for the respectful way you address the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I appreciate your perspective on the purpose of a mission. I had never thought of it as a way to give young adults direction and purpose in their life. Nor had I thought about how it can prepare them to have a foundation to build their family's faith and their future service to God upon. May God continue to bless you as you seek after Him and the peace He gives.
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, just want to say welcome brother. I’m glad you’re feeling connected to the messages our Father in Heaven is sending to you.
Am I crazy or why are Mormon men a little bit more attractive than the average guy? Lol. Not being attractive is the most important quality, in fact it’s not important all at the core of it, but it’s still something I notice.
You my friend are being a missionary whether you realize it or not. Thank you for sharing your positive experiences of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
I am a convert of 45 years. My husband and I joined when we were married one year, at the age of 22. I had read the Old and New Testament all the way through when I was 15-16 years old. I began looking for God’s church that matched His word.
Don’t worry about the water verses the wine issue. It’s the change in your heart that’s important, not what you partake.
The thing that changed my life when I served a mission for Christ for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints was seeing people we met with be converted and realizing that it was nothing I did or said-no 19 year-old can persuade anyone to change their lives that way, watching those people get their own signs and witnesses from God-and having the same thing happen to me-that’s what built the foundation for my life.
Religion is so personal and polarizing. I'm so impressed with your open mind to explore. "If any of you lack wisdom let him ask of God" we all lack wisdom. we should all have curiosity and be asking God. Love this video.
Thanks for watching, appreciate the uplifting message.
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Brother please stay with us.. I found such clarity... pray over what you learn... your Heavenly Father sees you and knows you by name as He does me. That is so comforting... ❤️
God bless you in your journey to find truth 🙏
I love that you followed the promoting to go again. You have had some amazing experiences leading up to this. I am so glad you are documenting these experiences! I feel like I am watching your walls come down and your heart soften. It’s a beautiful journey your on. Thank you for sharing such a personal story and testimony. Please keep sharing your experiences!
I am a LDS convert of 7yrs and I too can testify of CRAZY "coincidences" happening when I was investigating the Church! Good on you for being attentive on ways God may be directing you.
Me 2!
Same for me. Certain things happened that left me floored. Other things throughout my life fell into place. Heavenly Father leaves these events in our lives as signposts for us to help show us the way - if we're guided by the Spirit, we will follow them🙂
Wow, regardless of which church holds the truth, you're spiritual journey here in this video today has brought me to tears. The spirit of the lord is upon me and you're journey has been so inspiring in helping me find my relationship with Christ again. I love the LDS Church and how Christ and family is at the center of it and it's absolutely beautiful. Thank you for this content.
Law of unintended consequences...I found the Church 25 years ago and went through a yearlong process of learning, seeking, asking, knocking. If you are truly open to finding the Church God would have for you, I promise you, this is it. In His Holy Name....
You clearly had a spiritual impression to return to that particular LDS meeting house. As you said, that parking lot as well as that woman's talk in Sacrament Meeting had personal meaning to you. Only you can interpret what message God had for you, but I assure you that you were meant to attend that particular service! 🙏 Most LDS members have had experiences where it seems like a certain talk, scripture reading etc. was meant just for us and was an answer to a spiritual question we had
I'm so touched by this video. Thank you for sharing an accurate picture of doctrine, principles, and practices of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. You are truly a friend of the Church and I hope you keep investigating the doctrine. You're very in tune with your spiritual relationship with God. This was such a great reminder to me to appreciate the truths we have and to follow the signs that come by pure faith in Jesus Christ.
Amen! ❤️
I really like your analogy of Samson and Delilah. I have sat through many sermons that have spoken directly to me and come to recognise that Heavenly Father is very pleased with the honest in heart who seek to follow the teachings of the gospel.
This is such a beautiful journey. Thank you for sharing it! My religious upbringing sent me in the same direction as many of your friends - I became an atheist. A series of FORTUNATE events landed me in the back pew of a ward of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I was so comfortable there. I felt like I was home. I didn't expect that to be the case because "Mormons" live so differently and seem to have such extremely strict lifestyles when compared with other Christians, so why wasn't the worship service "extreme?" In time I learned that being truly and deeply converted to Jesus Christ and his restored church isn't the result of bold external forces like chanting, or brainwashing or fiery sermons. It's the result of the Holy Ghost's quiet, yet powerful, communication of truth to the heart of the individual. I've been a very fulfilled, grateful, and happy member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints for 35 years now. The blessings are endless. And the quiet, uplifting, converting spiritual experiences never stop coming.
Your journey is inspiring my friend. I love the respect you have as you learn more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints. As a young convert to the church, I believe with all my heart that the lord truly speaks to all of us in subtle, simple ways that that are significant to us. Keep an open mind, and I promise you will find all the answers you seek!
You are so in tune with your spirit and God’s ability to let you know he is supporting this journey. Keep posting it is inspiring to many of us.
BTW- I am a member of the LDS church.
what is wonderful about this video for me as a member of the church of jesus christ of latter day saints is seeing the value you see in our missionaries and their callings. When you grow up in the church the full value of every facet of the church is lost on you bc we live with these things around us constantly. it's always there so we dont know what life is like without it. It's so refreshing to hear your appreciation of these things, which in turn helps me appreciate all the blessings that come from membership in this church. I'm sorry you have dealt with narcissistic abuse. I was away from the church for awhile and got mixed up with a narcissist, so I absolutely know what you're talking about. It is the worst thing I've ever survived. I am so grateful to be back at church and away from all that, and have the missionaries come over and help me with things, Heavenly Father knows exactly what we need and sends us the right help when we need it (for you it was cardinals for me it was my lasercutter) , {i couldnt fix my laser cutter for a year, and two elders showed up at my door and fixed it in like an hour! lol) I love being a member of this church. PS im sure i wasnt the only member who watched this and had to chuckle when you said strange occurences were happening to you, theyre not strange at all in this church. :) they just happen :)
Follow those signs brother I love how you're respectful and you're looking into it more instead of rushing into anything I know that's the way to do it. I'm a convert I had similar experiences I know for sure that I'm at the right place and made a right decision I've never been so happy in my life 1993 I got baptized into the Church even though I went through trials and tribulations I still felt the love of my Savior Jesus Christ and God throughout and they were always there with me. Thank you brother
Thank you for your positive take. You seem very sincere and as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints I want to thank you for your positivity and respectful take. The Book of Mormon contains a promise in Moroni 10:3-5. That promise has been fulfilled in my life.
Thanks Jerry, appreciate the positive vibes!
As someone raised Devoutly LDS in Utah, but who hasn't been "Active" in many years, I have really enjoyed your videos on visiting LDS Church services! As someone just starting into a Divorce after years in an abusive marriage, your words and thoughts in this video really spoke to my heart!! Thank you for being Vulnerable, and I'm so sorry for the things you've had to go through! I don't even know if you read the comments really, and I'm a few months late finding this video I guess, but still I just wanted to say how much I appreciate you and your content Etc.! Maybe you're my new "Celebrity Crush"! 😂 I hope life is treating you well, what an interesting and Amazing idea and concept, visiting 52 churches in 52 weeks! Can't wait to see more!✌️❤️
Not something I planned on doing for this video series, the way things lined-up the way it happened still boggles my mind. Storms in life can sway us in so many ways, hope you've landed on solid ground now in your own journey. Thanks for your support, hope you get a chance to check out some of the other videos!
@@52churchesin52weeks I've watched many of your videos and been super fascinated, I love learning about different Faiths and the traditions. I found the one on the Jehova Witness service very interesting because they've been at my door many times and I've wondered what their services are like, but only from a purely curious standpoint, not a conversion standpoint. I've always been to scared to actually check it out. That doesn't sound like my kinda church! But all of them have been so informative and fascinating! Keep up the great content and thanks for the response! 😁
I have had many experiences with narcissistic abuse, and I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. It was quite the journey of my healing from this form of abuse that not all recognize, and it was very much spiritually led, and I am so very grateful for the journey, even though it was hard, this experience provided because it led me to know that I truly am a child of God, that I truly am loved, and that I matter more than I could ever know. I hope your journey of growth, healing, and development can be the same. ❤️
I'm LDS and find it fascinating to hear how people perceive the church and its teachings I really enjoyed your video. Your insights were very good. Best of luck on the rest of your journey.
I’m feeling really invested in this, please keep it going!
Thank you for using the full name of the church when referring to it. Evertime you did it made me feel respected as one loving the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
Keep searching for God and truth 😊
Greetings from Germany.
I was happy to hear about your experiences. I've been a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints my whole life, although I'm less active lately. Still, I believe the Church is true. The Spirit of God is the biggest reason... I've felt it so many times at church in absolutely powerful, undeniable ways... I'm working on getting back to church more now. I truly believe it is the restored church of Jesus Christ because of the experiences I've had, and your experience with the cardinals and the prompting you had about the talk remind me of those... Here I am encouraging you to keep investigating the church, when in fact you've helped me find motivation to want to go back. Thank you for sharing your experience! I'm impressed with your dedication to the Lord, and your willingness to follow a prompting from the Spirit. Russel M. Nelson is the Prophet/President of the Church. He's 97 but it doesn't show. The BOM and the New Testament are both my favorite.
President Nelson just had a birthday. They said on the news that he is 98 now. Hey, just walk through the door. Ask a friend to go with you, if you feel shy.
God has always met me where I was... I agree with Donna... just walk right in ❤️
I fell into extreme inactivity, drugs, alcohol and immorality. Then I met my future wife who was also very inactive. We both came back together. I’ll NEVER leave The Saviors’ gospel again.
Brother, we need you. Come back and KNOW YOU ARE LOVED>
I love how honest and sincere you are in your videos. As you continue to seek truth, I believe you will find it. Your Heavenly Father loves you.
I am an active LDS church member, and I know that my life is better because of it. My relationship with our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ is most important to me. Life is filled with challenges and hardships, and our strength to overcome them can come from God.
Please continue to learn from the missionaries and you will find peace and knowledge that will bring even more joy to your life.
This is amazing. I’m closely following your story and going to share it around.
I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I'm so glad you could connect with God during our service.
I'm a convert from back in the 70s. Raised in Alabama I had attended many different church's as well. The Lord will guide you as he did me to his restored Gospel, just don't allow Satan to encourage you to over analize things your being taught. Give the Holy Ghost room to testify to you of the truths of God. I have a much stronger conviction of this work today than I did 40+ yrs ago, but Satan is VERY real and he has certainly tried his best to detour me from this path. I can testify to you without any reservation that the fullness of God's Gospel and purpose for his children has been restored for the last time paving way for our Saviors return in glory to finish this work during the millennium. I appreciated your video. If you haven't heard Glen Becks conversion story you should listen to it. ❤️🙏
This is awesome! We are all here for a purpose and I hope you find yours!!
David, the Book of Mormon is filled with the "LIGHT" of Christ and a powerful 2nd witness of our Savior! No young man in his early 20's could have produced this book without it being the word of God.
I was a Mormon and served a mission. Last year I learned the true teaching of Genesis and I left the church. Hebrew meaning in Genesis doesn't tell the same lie that the Mormon temple does. Truth at kleckfiles.
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@@charlesmendeley9823 Right! Totally proven the book as a lie.
@@MiloLinesGolf Let's agree every lie comes from Satan. So.... If the church is OK with parents lying to children about Santa Clause, that means they are OK with lies and OK with the devil. That is the simplest form of understanding.
@@MiloLinesGolf I can tell you not ever will I come back! That is how simple the truth is! There is 0 chance. When you see the truth that I was lead to, you would think the same thing! Go check out a video or two and have your mind blown with pure, unadulterated Truth that isn't preachy. The page is. Kleckfiles
I'm so impressed with your open, humble, and searching heart. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and have been given a testimony of its truthfulness. I'm happy to answer any questions you have. Continue to seek and pray. I'm sure you will find what you are looking for. God bless you.
Testimony? The warm feeling is not the testimony.
@@ilmari7568 , You would know this how?
I have a testimony and know the truth that the Mormon Church is a cult. The leaders are racists, liars, and love gaslighting their members.
That's what we call in the church...being led by the led by the Spirit and touched by the Spirit. You basically bore your testimony. Awesome
You seem like a truth-seeker. Keep it up!
What a great comparison with Sampson and Delilah and narcissistic abuse! That's the first time I've heard anyone speak of it with this comparison and you are spot on! I wouldn't wish this experience on anyone.
I teach Gospel Doctrine (Sunday school) for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I wish I had you had been in my class when I was teaching about Sampson last year. I love your application of Sampson to your life. Nephi in the Book of Mormon teaches the importance of likening all scripture to ourselves. You do that effectively. I appreciate your insight
Watching your videos have made me love and appreciate being a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints more than ever. I feel like I could've been on this journey as well if I hadn't already found the right one and love to see the process of discovering truth and testimony.
Love that you are on this journey. And I'm glad you are sharing it. Like Kevin said during your first visit, there are a LOT of misconceptions with the church. Just remember, the counsel by our current Prophet (Russell M. Nelson) to, "Hear Him". Not people who may be for or against the church. But to hear Him. Meaning Christ and to gain that personal relationship with our Savior. Love hearing your journey and love this path of personal revelation ♥️
I just finished watching your videos regarding your visit to the LDS church. I love your spirit and I love a non-members new fresh on how wonderful this church is. That is how I have always felt and I appreciate that an honest in heart person recognizes it too! I pray and hope you will continue your curiosity and "find" that tree of life that your great grandfather found late in his life. I can guarantee you it will be the greatest prize you will gain in this life and the next. There is good in all churches but the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints has it all! God bless you on your journey.
I have been in a narcissistic abusive relationship, luckily not for too long. After I got out of it, I was wondering, what was that?!?! I had a thought to look up narcissism, & started studying about red flags, etc. My assignment through church also had me studying about suicide. Shortly after, both experiences came together to help save a loved one from suicide. They felt no hope from being deeply involved with a narcissist. I was able to recognize what was going on & help them out. God is aware & will lead us along to help each other. Our bad experiences can be used for good, & the Lord gives beauty for ashes.
Also, I love your journey & how open & respectful you are. As a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we are used to other churches using their church time to speak badly about us (& their members let us know), but we need so badly to be united, especially as all religions are under attack.
Saw your video of your first time attending a ward service. Been meaning to watch more of your videos, hear about those, too. This came up today. Your personal story relates SO MUCH to a friend of mine, it helped me better understand that story, and yours, and the Samson story, even better. Thank you for your openness. I look forward to your further discovery.
I am very impressed with your video and for the respect you show to those of other faiths. My own ancestors walked across the plains because they were driven out of their homes and found refuge with the saints in Utah. Many of my ancestors were from Protestant backgrounds. I myself wandered away from the faith in my late teens when I became involved with someone who was narcissistic. We were married for 9 1/2 years so this is a topic is very close to my heart.
Although I was raised in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints I allowed doubters to come in and convince me it was not true. Much like you I went on my own faith journey to find a church I could raise my children in. I did not expect God to lead to lead me back to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, but he did. I had profound spiritual experiences that showed me it was true. 23 years later I have not looked back. Following the teachings of the gospel has changed my life dramatically. Now I seek the Lord’s will in all I do.
I found myself getting teary on my way home from work listening to your UA-cam video. After listening to the rest of your video and learning about the abuse you have suffered I now know why. I wish you all the best in your faith journey. God will help you heal and will help you forgive. Keep following the nudges or as I believe them to be the promptings of the Spirit.
All the Best,
Cami
My brother went on a 2 year mission to Hawaii. My younger brother went to Las Angeles. My niece went to Seattle Washington. My other niece is in San Antonio Texas now. Our daughter india is going to mission prep now as a Senior in High school. My husband is a convert and one of his Elders was from Canada and my dads Elder was from Canada. So grateful for Elder Dunbar going to The Gurnsey islands and teaching my great great great Grandpa Josias Richard Young and Grandma Elizabeth Canivet. So blessed .
My nephew fell asleep and rolled his truck in 2009 and passed away. He came to me on the morning of his funeral and gave me a message for when our son passed away in 2017. I had a premonition of my nephews death 8 years be fore he fell Astana rolled his truck. I pray the Holy Ghost will guide you and know that all these trials and experiences you go through shall be your good. I know that Joseph Smith is the first prophet of this dispensation. I know that Russell M. Nelson is the prophet today.
Kind of crazy I was engaged four different times and the first engagement was up in a hot air balloon and he had mowed I LoVE you in the field. Great guy. I was 18 he was 26 so I though I was too young. Some day you may thank this girl you call narcissist for all she taught you. Thanks for you message. God bless. 💟💟💟💟💟💟💟
I loved your comments about The Church of Jesus Christ. I served an LDS mission in Chicago and can attest that those 2 years were indeed a blueprint for my life. Now after 25 years I look back and realize how influential those missionary experiences were in coming unto Christ, getting married, and finding ways to help those I encounter along the way.
Please feel free to shoot me any questions about the Church - 100% rooting for this channel it’s author in his spiritual journey. I can attest that all true seekers will find the Lord and His ❤.
I am a convert. I didn't even know if there was a God.
You are so articulate.
One of the things I like about the LDS Church is that different people talk each week so we get their perspective from their life experiences
This quote came to mind as you were talking about your cardinal experiences.
“Never be afraid to trust an unknown future to a known God.” -Corrie Ten Boom, The Hiding Place
The Lord is definitely aware of you.
Your channel is great! I’m learning so much! Thank you!
Great insights David! The principle of a lay ministry is amazing, especially how it gives regular people opportunities to grow, and not just as missionaries! Every current leader of the church is just a regular member who accepted a temporary calling to serve. And when they are released from that calling, they become just a regular member again except hopefully with a little added personal refinement and spiritual growth. A calling is never sought after or applied for, ever. Someone might serve as a bishop or relief society president today, and tomorrow will gladly serve as a children's Sunday school pianist or the building cleaning coordinator. It's beautiful.
"A calling is never sought after"... but higher callings are seen to reflect personal righteousness, and some people really get excited about the possibility of being a bishop, stake president, etc. Some leaders are humble, but many think that they are channeling god's will and tend to be controlling and in some cases at least slightly narcissistic. It's not a perfect system and when such leaders follow SLC and fail to report rape to local authorities, children can (and do sometimes) suffer. See the recent AP story about the bishops in Arizona.
@@scottvance74 Unfortunately, we will not have a perfect system until Christ returns and reigns personally. We all look forward to that glorious day! Until then, God uses what he has... imperfect people... and we do the best we can as both leaders and followers.
Btw, I have been an active member for 50+ years and have never met a single person who wanted to be a bishop or stake president. Not one.
Joseph Smith did observe that when people get a little authority, it naturally goes to their heads. Maybe that's one reason the Lord makes callings temporary and emphasizes that we lead with patience and love. Being a good leader doesn't come naturally, but it is one of the lessons that comes naturally over time as we serve humbly and accept callings and releases willingly as they are extended.
@@EricHancock agree ... am here in the Philippines ... the Bishoprick always comes first and go home last, and so much work to be done
The High Council had to visit other Churches and or wards and as you know We HAD So Many Meetings to attend with
And we are in A Service - unpaid ministry
Much is Given
Much is Required
With "Great" Callings
Comes Great Responsibility
So Callings is Not Wish For
Nor Sought For - and when callings were extended
You even ask yourself "why me"
There are so many capable members "why me"
Of course as we all know before that call be extended - the recipient had a feeling he will be called and wished not to be
@@scottvance74 I'm currently a Bishop of the congregation/ward that David visited in Madison, Wisconsin. I can tell you that in an ideal world, callings are not sought after, but there are some who equate serving at a "higher level" calling with more righteousness. Anyone who gets excited about being a Bishop or Stake President is absolutely insane. When I was called, my first response was "Really? Me? You want ME?" I hate wearing suits and have at least one visible tattoo, but one of my gifts of the Spirit is to love and really see people as the children of God they are.
No, God wanted me. I'm not a particularly pious person and certainly don't act the part, but the good thing about being a Bishop is that all you really have to do is love people like Christ did. The clerical stuff that comes with any position in a lay clergy church I broomed off to my counselors so I could focus on loving the widows and the folks on the fringes: that's where Jesus did His best work. So I hug all the widows, the downtrodden, the marginalized, the teenager with pink hair, the guy in the back in a jean jacket who smells like cigarettes, and the beautiful African woman in traditional dress who only speaks French. Of course, I love the conventionally dressed clean-cut folks too. One of the few benefits of sitting up behind the pulpit is to see all the faces of my sheep. I will miss that beautiful sight when I am released from my calling later this year. We usually do five years as a Bishop, as it's a lot on top of owning a business, building a new store for my business, an still being a good husband and father.
It is not a perfect system. But we're trying, and a lot of us are asking for more training, more consistent policy, higher guardrails, etc. Narcissists are everywhere, and there are 35,000 Bishops worldwide, so like every denomination, some are bound to slip through. And yes, tragic things happen (i.e. Arizona), but I can tell you I've had to (sadly) deal with a few cases of abuse, and I felt supported in my reporting, both to the church and to the local law enforcement. Most of us don't deal with SLC very often, as we run independently as far as most things go. We can and should and will do better.
@@DarrenBush Sounds like you are doing an awesome job for your congregation. Most members and leaders that I have met work tirelessly to help their congregations. Regardless of whether or not there is a God, showing love and helping those around you is a wonderful thing which helps both people in your congregation and hopefully also gives you a greater sense of enjoyment in life. I have no qualms with what you are doing.
This does not mean however that the church is true or that it is justified in perpetuating lies about how the Book of Mormon and Book of Abraham were created or translated, whether or not there are historical Lamanites, whether God commanded or allowed racism in the past, or any number of other things. While I appreciate your service to your community, part of me is saddened by the lies that you and many other good people perpetuate upon your communities. Historical truths exist. Historical Lamanites do not. Evolution is real. Destruction of the planet through global warming and pollution is real and concerning. We can all do more - I can certainly do more. I hope that you are appreciated for the work that you are doing and wish you all the best, but also wish that you would consider for a moment that truth really matters - or at least to me it does.
Sounds like you've had your own revelation about your life and how this church can bless your life if you follow the promptings (cardinals) that will allow you to see the church as it truly is. Truly enjoying your series. I'm a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints, and I'm so glad you're second visit to this ward building was better than the first. I've dealt with my own Delilah in my life and still trying to be my own person after so many harsh years under her thumb. Good for you!
Thanks Cindi for the warm message. This ward has been very welcoming and patient as I dip my toe in the water to understand more. Narcissistic abuse is hard to explain unless you've been through it, so hope things are much better for you now.
I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, I appreciate your journey and the honest way you approach the churches you are visiting. If you can find the time, definitely give the Book of Mormon a chance, you may be surprised.
Super uplifting content- I love how willing you are to follow Him!
Thanks Meggs!
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing your personal experience very brave of you and awesome. I'm now binging your videos.
I can’t tell you how much I not only related with your story but haven’t felt the spirit quite like this. It reminded me it’s the curiousness and love of God that allow this to happen. From what I observe very few understand that. Thank you so much
You sound so much like me before I joined the Church and was searching for truth wherever I could find it. I even remembering finding meaning in significant events/tender mercies like yours with the Cardinals. This is good. The light of Christ is given to all the world and it leads to truth. You are clearly letting that light guide you. If we lay hold upon every truth we find, it will eventually lead us to a fullness of truth. Props to you for recognizing truth and goodness where you find it and letting it lead you. Keep on laying hold upon it and the Lord will bless you with more and more truth and light until you find all of it. Godspeed Brother!
Your whole little schpeel at the end about the missionaries & the church & family & experience & such - such a wonderful perspective, thank you for that! I just love watching your videos so far! For your insight & perspective & openness & respect of others! 🙏🏼 keep it up!
Great video ❤️
Thanks for the kindness and respect towards the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints🙏 We love our Savior Jesus Christ with all of our heart, mind and strength 🥰
I'm blown away by this video… So genuine… Your perspective As a visitor Is amazing
I too visited the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints multiple times
I was Roman Catholic before and had been searching and had been to the Jehovah witness congregation and to the Baptist congregation!
I agree with your observations...
I was given a book of Mormon by the local church leader… The bishop
He challenged me to read it in one week
I read the book of Mormon prayerfully in one week and concluded that I need not look any further
I wish you the best on your journey pay attention to the whisperings of the spirit in your investigation
Best regards always ROGER
Thank you for being so personal in this video ❤
I love how open and receptive you are! Looking for signs as cardinals or anything the Lord may send to lead and guide you. I believe he is leading you to to truth because you chose to forgive negative past experience. You chose to learn, grow and move on! You are greatly blessed and I so appreciate you sharing here. Enjoy the journey!
Beautiful journey. Thank you for sharing
Thank you for sharing your candid and personal Samson and Delilah story. You have brought greater awareness for those that seek healing through Christ from impacts of narcissism and unhealthy relationships.
Loved hearing about your personal spiritual journey. I also say keep listening to the still small voice and the signs along the way.
UA-cam recommended this video today and I’m so glad I watched it. I’m a Latter-day Saint and I really enjoyed hearing about your experience. I was getting ready for the day and putting my makeup on and your video brought tears to my eyes. Had to fix my makeup 😅. I love how genuine your thoughts and feelings are. I love that you see cardinals! I see hearts and a couple of numbers that I call my “pay attention” signs. They pop up as I’m being guided as well. Thanks for making this channel and for sharing your personal experiences. ❤
I am a lifelong member of the church who also had to go through his own spiritual conversion. Doing so I also went on my mission. I learned a lot from serving as a missionary. I have since been asked to teach Sunday School classes which I continue to do today. I know from listening to you, that you need to continue to study and pray about what you have learned and find out for yourself what you need to do. Find out and ask God if those things that you have been taught are true. Then act on your guidance from the Holy Ghost. He will tell you what you should do. God bless you my friend.
I’m following you !! Know for everything that you say ( coming from the video that you you went to the conference)
Thanks for sharing your personal experience in our faith. Looking forward to following you more
I really like how you freely express yourself yet still respectful. Bless you brother.
I grew up in the LDS church. I just found your channel. I like learning from you and your experiences.
Thanks bother for sharing that video, I am really impressed to hear your words, I felt very well to hear you, and the insight you got in that invite, LDS church in a place where people have the opportunity to grow and improve the perspectives concerning church, is so special. Go again and enjoy your attending. God bless you my bother.
Hector, thanks for taking a look and hope you're blessed as well.
Really appreciated your thoughtful comments and insights. Your respectful and sincere explorations are inspiring. Keep it up!
David..
You inspire me daily with your humility and respect for Jesus Christ.
He lives, he loves each of us.
Thank you for your open mind.
I love the Gospel of Je Christ of Latter Day Saints. I love my Savior. He is there for all of us.
I love when you wear your white shirt and tie.
White represents purity.
You are Epic.
You elevate us to higher ground through your testimony.
Thank You.
I really liked your video and thoughts. I love your quest to find your spiritual home. I am a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and I have always loved any person who is seeking for truth and sharing it❤️ They all feel like my people.
Once again your video has been really great.
Thank you for sharing your testimony and experiences. May you continue to be Blessed
The story of Samson was really great thanks for sharing bro , indeed very inspiring
Just found this channel. Interesting. I subscribed. I was searching like you (Catholic and Baptist background) and found the missionaries years ago. I joined and have never looked back. It answered my questions and meets my spiritual and social needs for fellowship. I wish you all the best in your searching.
It sounds like Jesus Christ is trying to help you heal from that past trauma. He knew this woman’s experience would speak to your heart and mind, through His Holy Spirit. He is The Healer 🙏🏼
I just wanted to say thank you for sharing your story. I truly felt the Spirit as you discussed the cardinals, how God is using them as signposts in your life, and also as you shared your story of your Delilah. I haven't ever been in that type of relationship, but before we met, my wife was in an abusive relationship for a year and a half. Thankfully, through the grace of God, she was able to leave, and a major part of her leaving was investigating and joining the Church of Jesus Christ.
I know that God has you in His heart, and that he helped inspire that talk to help you. What a tremendous blessing. Keep leaning on the Lord, and He will bless you in ways you can't even imagine.
Thank you for sharing this, you're a good man.
I really appreciate how respectful you are and I love hearing your perspective!
One thing I might say - a bishop always wants to be led by revelation. He and his counselors take turns picking who will speak. Sometimes it's revelation, and sometimes they just ask someone because they need a speaker for a few Sundays from now and here's this member standing here - that kind of thing.
I love what you said about missionaries. My oldest son served a mission in Ghana, and then came home when COVID hit after a year, and then he finished his mission in Georgia. And now I have a son who is a service missionary. I feel so grateful for the blessings we receive through their service. God is amazing! And though missionary service isn't always easy, and in fact was quite hard for my oldest son, it pays off in big ways. I have a third son getting ready to start his mission next year, and he's nervous but excited. I feel the same. But sacrifice brings blessings.
Also, I love the discussions in classes too! It's pretty rare that these classes are anything but a positive experience, and I always feel like my comments are appreciated. I like that because then I want to comment more, and it makes me dig deeper to see more ways in which the Gospel affects my life. And I really appreciate the insight and perspective of my fellow members. It's beneficial all around, to teacher and participant alike.
I love the spirit you have with you.
You are a man of great faith. You do an excellent job of recognizing when God is reaching out to you. Jesus is the Prince of Peace and I wonder how you felt at the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Did you feel peace? Healing? I have been battling stage IV cancer for 5 years. I was given 6 months to live 4 yrs ago. I know God answers prayers in his own time and way: i read the Bible and the Book of Mormon every day and I testify that The Book of Mormon is the word of God. You will love it. Together those two wonderFul books are powerful witnesses of Jesus Christ. I know he lives, that he is the son of God and that he personally leads his church, The restored Church of Jesus Christ ofLatter-day Saints. Prayers for you brother!
I feel you are a very good man. Thank you for being so kind.
Thanks so much for your thoughts, my kids have been on their missions in South Africa, Houston, Texas, Arizona, San Antonio, Texas, South Carolina and Portugal this was church hopping for 9 plus years. I really enjoyed your insight
Thank you so very much for your experience of going to 52 different churches in 52 weeks!!! Wonderful idea!! And I suppose we have many more than 52 churches/religions in this country!! I happen to be also a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I joined the church when I was 45 and now I am 74! I didn’t have a formal agenda/goal to attend X amount of churches in X amount of time, but that’s a lot of what I ended up doing!!! But it was over the course of so many years!! I was raised in the Episcopal church(did you go to one of those?!) in Pennsylvania,, but I did not feel that that was the right church!! That it was missing a lot of truth I guess, though I didn’t know how to analyze it way back then!! I ended up trying transcendental meditation a bit, then becoming a Nishiren Shoshu Buddhist from modern day Japan!! I went to Catholic churches some, besides Methodist, which I liked more than any of the others after the LDS church!!!! Also Church of God… and some churches I don’t remember the name of! I did go to a few black churches, whose denomination I have no idea what they were!! Do like the black churches quite a bit, though they are totally opposite than the LDS church, in that they speak out a lot and are quite animated and “noisy”(no I think that’s a relative term, depending on what church you were raised in!!! The LDS services are very quiet, to show respect to Heavenly Father(we are in his house, when we are in the church/chapel!!)… I was going out with an Israeli fellow, when I was in college at the U of Miami… he was/is Jewish, but I never went to a Saturday synagogue service that I remember!! Though I did go to a brith, the Jewish ceremony of circumcising a child/baby… baby was the baby of friends of my Israeli boyfriend. He wanted me to marry him and convert to Judaism, but I wouldn’t do that!!! Even though I did not have a testimony of Jesus Christ, nor Heavenly Father at the time, I knew it was wrong to deny Christ as our Redeemer/Messiah, as the Jews do!! Also went to a Hare Krishna temple or two, in my exploration into new age and/or eastern religions somewhat…oh, yes, have been to a Sikh gudwhara with friends of ours…yes, I also was studying some with the Jehovah’s Witnesses, at the same time I was studying with the Mormon missionaries!!! We had a couple Witness friends. I went to their Kingdom Hall once I think… Never could understand the Jehovah’s Witnesses at all!!! Though there are some really good things in their religion!!! Each of the other churches has some truth, but the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has all of them!!! Good luck in your quest, and I will say a prayer or two for you!!!!
What neat experiences you have had over the years. I am glad you found Christ through all of it! I would love to hear your full story, maybe you should reach out to “called to share” the UA-cam channel that shares different experiences from members of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It would be fun to hear yours!Thanks for sharing!
I’m a LDS and you’re on the right track my brother. Hopefully there’s a 3 LDS video. God bless and
Blessings from New Zealand bro. God bless you
Thanks for making a video about your faith experiences. It is encouraging to see good people share how God is speaking to them.
Keep searching my brother. I admire your humility and openness. These are the first steps towards finding true knowledge and wisdom and truth. Shalom.
I have been going back and rewatching your faith journey. I didn't find you until just a couple weeks ago so it's awesome to see your progression.
Glad you had a good experience. I'm a member of that church. We always try to make (new) people feel welcome, as we should. I've been on a mission. It takes some guts to step into a congregation with strangers. I applaud you for that. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for your honesty
Appreciate your honesty. Keep listening to God and His clues. You have an honest heart brother.
Wow, i am so amazed by you sharing your story with us! Thank you so much. I am just going back and listening to all your past episodes after watching your most recent ones. I understand what you went through in the past. I dealt with a similar situation with my ex husband. It wasnt until he left me, alone with a 6-week old baby, that i realized how much he had destroyed my confidence and all relationships with friends and family. I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We had been to the temple and been sealed. So going through that divorce was extremely hard for me. I still struggle from time to time 19 years later with self esteem and self confidence. It did take me several years to realize that i had worth still and that i was a beloved daughter of a loving God who had been there with me through it all. Now, 19 years later, I am still single and still a strong member of my faith. Even though i thought initially that i had failed at my eternal marriage, I've learned since then that as long as i keep my covenants that i made in the temple, i will still have an opportunity to achieve eternal life, even if its not straightened out until i am passed away and in the next life. God has a plan for me. I was blessed with my wonderful and amazing child who I raised on my own and who is an amazing young adult now. And kind of laughably, I have been again blessed with children that i never thought i would have by getting guardianship of my niece and nephew. So as mine graduated high school, i started over with a 2-year-old and an 8-month-old! I've had them for a year now and am raising them in the gospel as a single mom. I am so blessed and seek to look for blessings each day. After going through the trials I faced in that relationship, I believe it helped me truly find myself and develop my relationship with Heavenly Father and our Savior Jesus Christ. The callings I've been blessed with and the children in my home show me that the Lord trusts me and places these stewardships into my hands that I once thought I would never be good enough for because i felt so worthless. Christ completes us. He makes us whole and takes those pains away. He truly heals. I am so happy for you that you have found answers to your questions and that you are desiring to learn and grow. You will be so blessed by your faith in Jesus Christ and your willingness to follow Him!
Cool talk David. Appreciate your honesty and courage. Keep triangulating. God lives and knows us better than we even know ourselves. Lean into trust.