Truth is.. all of us are going to “miss out” on so many things at some point or the other.. that’s how life works.. we can’t have it all! Just like how when we make a career choice between 2 most wanted options, we miss out on the experience of the option that we didn’t choose.. you’ll never know how your life would’ve turned out of you had chosen a completely different path.. we’re all “missing out” on something or the other all the time.. we just need to make peace with that and keep doing the things that make you feel alive everyday! That’s all🤩
It's not the case for parents who can't even feed or educate their children.. the guilt eats up the happiness more often than not.. still it does make them happy.. N ppl who have the stability to raise kids like some billionaires.. 'you who know who'.. back out. They have a better chance of giving a good life to their kids.. they can as well as do other philanthropic activities on the side without too much interruption..
I had this thought: if I had a child and he/she came to me and asked, "Why, Dad? Why did you have me? I can't handle this pressure and pain. I'm tired of this mundane, repetitive life. I'm done. All this suffering could have been avoided if you had considered it from my perspective." That is when I realized that there isn't a single selfless or convincing reason I could give them. This is why I have decided not to have children. Children aren't toys; they grow into mature individuals. People say life is a gift, but I believe we are potentially gifting 80+ years of imprisonment to a new life that didn't or couldn't ask for it. In law, when you can't get consent for a certain action from an individual, you should not make the decision for them. In such cases, no action is the best action.
This situation coming up depends on the environment and kind of upbringing the child has. Society's expectations from the child. Financial conditions etc. This "modern" world where we're chasing endless growth constantly leads to such pressure. It's ironic how isolated communities/tribes are probably much more happy and content than people living in cities for example.
@@MOKSH_J_K i doubt u can teach them these things , cause its all environment shaping people thinking.. just as it shaped japan and other 1st world countries where the population in on decrease, most of the reason they give are financial and spiritural , i think all humanity is progressing in this direction. Just like the "rat utopias" experiement
Isn’t life all about facing challenges and growing. If your kids are asking these questions then definitely you as a parent is not doing a good job raising them. Life is never easy no matter where you live or in what era you’re born. When parents have a certain perspective the kids eventually receive it too and what’s the guarantee that even after having all the material stuff in life you’ll be happy. Being a parent is the hardest thing you can do in your life but by being one it makes you realize your own deep set beliefs. When you raise a new life you start asking questions from your deep set beliefs that you’ll never do otherwise. Apart from that you start realizing the kind of compassion and love your own parents put in while raising you. I believe having kids is a personal choice and having somewhat of financial safety net is definitely important before having kids. However, my mom always say that each kid brings his own luck for the family and sometimes things do start to fall in place once you have your kids. Same goes for your marriage as well, sometimes luck starts triggering once you have certain events in life.
No one misses on anything. Psychologically, if you haven't experience something in first 30-35 years of life, how can you miss that experience? It's just people mostly do kids either because of following reasons: 1. Parents or partner pressure 2. FOMO by looking others around them 3. Want to leave inheritance or legacy None of which is a valid reason to do so.
It’s better than living with the room and making everyone’s life hell. Once u have kids u will definitely will develop empathy towards others because now u have something which tells u that not everyone try thing is ur fault or under ur control… helps u mature for sure
@@ijaan108 I'm sorry, but I don't agree. A bad person mostly remains bad no matter if they have kids or not. A good person do not need a reason. Has Daud Ibrahim became a good person after having so many kids? This is just false assumption.
It’s quite difficult, almost incomprehensible for most Indian people to understand that there are people (male and female) who have no desire to raise a child. They have other passions in life which they are fully committed to and they never think they are missing out.
Im a 30 yr old childfree woman too.. living my dream life, coming back home to a peaceful place, reading my pile of books without any disturbance, sip wine and sleep whenever I want, earn and splurge on whatever I want without any stress, learning new skills every month- gardening, kickboxing, new languages, jiu jitsu, swimming to name a few. My next goal is learning ski in New Zealand. I have no regrets at all. Even then, all I hear is .. wait for some more time, you'll regret it! It's been a long time.. still not regretting.
I'm 39, retired early, never want kids as they are not worth the headache , I love dogs and cats, met a 34 year old gal with similar interests and have an open relationship with her, also have a Russian gal on the side in Goa. Life's good.
It’s not compulsory to have kids. It’s a couple’s choice. Being parents is a full time job. Many parents don’t have the time and patience with their kids which isn’t really great. It’s is better not to have kids rather than make the kids feel neglected.
@@KPlyf That’s what is the whole point, one should choose to be a parent if they are 100% confident that they can do a good job with their kids, otherwise , it’s not a compulsion to be a parent.
@@vidyabthimmaiah6431 that ways people are 100% In love but fall out in future. Marry and divorce too. Not wanting pets too but then love them dearly! Nothing is clear cut. Cross the bridge when you come to it.
When you have your own children. You have big responsibility and you want to spend only for your children. I feel nikhil decision is good , he can do more philanthropic work and can do more social work.
Absolutely enlightening Kiran mam. You have complete understanding of Indian condition at grassroot level. You should be in policy making of our government. India will really benefit from your experience.
We need to also acknowledge (and appreciate) that she and her husband has come to terms with it , accepted the cards dealt to them and choose to continue to find happiness and satisfaction in their life. Respect to her!
Going through the comment section the reasons people give for birthing kids all starts with me: my bloodline, my happiness, my connection with me, my empathy level, my betterment as a human... and people call birthing kids a selfless act...
Environmentally speaking, I feel having no kids is the go-to thing in today's times. You could say I have a gloomy, pessimistic attitude towards Life but about people who talk of demographic dividend or having kids, I feel it is so pointless because just today or tomorrow, we may lose out on water, good air etc. and then what use do all of these things hold. It is also just shocking how even billionaires or people who are so well-informed and educated tend to ignore the environmental problems that look over us. Both Kiran Mazumdar Shaw and Nikhil kamath come from Bangalore and we all know what's happening in the city. I just want to know what their opinion is when it comes to this environmental aspects.
It's very true... finance and philanthropy will only happen when we have nature it's elements n life around...that no one seems to care really except ocasssional peptalks ..
Yes as a true Banglorean ur words r true.The climate of our city nd water crisis of many people are the burning issues. Urbanization and rampant greenary loss is a big problem.this should b addressed first.Basic necessity r not fulfilled.clean water nd pure air r the basic needs of humans.if u raise ur voice for this causes it vll have a great impact.
Actually it's KIRON MAJUMDAR SHAW s life....let her lead the life as the way she wants...whatever u guys have...it's ok...but don't put ur life understanding on her....she is really GREAT...that's why we r watching her...she deserves only our respect....
in my opinion, people birth and raise kids with the underlying purpose of keeping themselves occupied… for most, the concept of life is “samay bitane ke liye karna hai kuch kaam”…
I am married for 10 years now. Me and my husband we both do not want any kid right from the beginning and we dont miss anything. I know only few people think like us who actually do not want a kid and there is nothing wrong in it. U need to njy ur life thats it. But people give it different names like bacche nahi ho raha inka but seriously we dont care because we know what it is. In short u should be happy with ur decision and should not be confused. U can njy your life with other things u have. I have seen bacche hoke v log dukhi hote hain divorces and jhagda. So its better to keep ourselves happy with pur decison.
Please please please help make child adoption for single people easy! Current process is so difficult, esp for. single women who dont want to marry, but adopt a child and raise them! Forget the mental battle women need to fight the society to adopt, but the number of scrutiny of legalities, monetary proof and then again waiting period is insufferable! If only we can make that process faster, people will come forward and adopt! 🙏🏻
i am adopted daughter of single mother...yes true meri mom ne bataya he mujhe k ye kitna hard tha krne k liye......she used oto pray alot for me...and at last by god grace me apni mom ko mil gai
@@AdityaJape Be happy for those who are alive in that era. Why always do one have to be regretful? Just a simple example for your understanding - I'm a billionaire and choose to have a normal car even when I can totally afford to have a sports/super car. I can still be happy for those who have one and not regret not having one of my own! Does that make sense?
The Reasons why I don't like to have kids:- 1. We both work in 9-5 we don't run any businesses so we feel like taking retirement in 50's and leave bangalore but with kids we can't 2. I don't want my body to undergo so many changes like pregnancy, postpartum and some hormonal changes 3. I don't want to invest too much emotions on my kids I have seen almost all mothers or parents giving too much love to their kid and they can't tolerate little arrogance from kids. They start acting too dramatic I don't want to be that 4.I hate this world and education system I don't want to pressure my kids regarding studies but now adays competition is getting more and more so im worried about that 5.I have my own dreams and life so I won't feel happy If I sacrifice that 6. My MIL is negative person she is not staying with us if I have kid she comes and starts staying with us and she is obsessed with kid and she gonna snatch kid from me and she might teach some negative things about me and my husband for that kid and make my kid stubborn I want to avoid her But My family has to understand this I don't know what to do
I hv the same thinking. World is not getting any better, competition in every front of life, constant worry about making ur children good humans and successful, all that is too much
My sister in law struggles managing them. They break things and fight a lot . They are so stubborn that if they want something they will create tantrums. Kids are not for everyone, especially when you lack patience and energy. The parents end up becoming more bitter and the kids end up mentally damaged.
@@samarthsprasad2258 exactly this is what I am concerned about my mother in law has made my husband stubborn from childhood even he is good person he is stubborn sometimes she only cannot tolerate that but I have seen she always keep on telling him whenever he have fight with her that you will understand when you will have kid in future I know every mother says that but I can feel some bad intentions from her eyes so that is also one of the reasons I don't want to have kids
One of the most neglected demographic is the handicapped or differently abled. We must give more to ex deaf, blind children, help make them ready for to earn their livelihood. My heart breaks when i see deaf, blind kids especially girl children. I would vote for thst Nikhil
People in comments 😂talking about having kids, as if it’s a big achievement,😂😂😂 it’s the most common thing humans do, that too for their own selfish needs, such as a social status trophy or a retirement plan🤣
And also, not having kids is just the same. They’re doing nothing special. People don’t have kids because of their own selfish needs!! Freeeedom eh!!! 😂😂😂
@@sugandhachowdhry yeah not having them because of selfishness is awesome because you’re not gonna be responsible for screwing up another human’s life for obtaining a personal social status and a trophy kid or a retirement plan to show off to people. People want kids only as a trophy or a retirement plan, that’s using another human for your selfish satisfaction. Very mahaan👏👏👏😂
Having kids is not an achievement. No one ever says that. If you hear someone saying those EXACT words…Run in opposite direction. Having kids is a privilege of opportunity and chance to commitment. We say, I am going to be a person and commit each and every minute of my life to this precious privilege bestowed upon me. We try and be better person than what we were. We watch our actions and words. Yes, some of us are not rich but we try our best . We are not perfect either, but every sincere parent does try. We are not doing any favor to the child. Raising a child, is an opportunity to rise to the occasion and raise yourself as a better person, so that you give the child a safe, loving, wise, calming environment, thus giving the child to be a better person than us.
Having kid changes your life 360 degree. In my experience I am other person. I have become more empathetic. You start seeing others and life with different glance.
Totally true. Infact, if you go back and see things in past, like something as random as song or movie, your perspective is completely different. Funny thing, it changes as the child grows older. Also, we change so much on how we deal with people and problems.
@@atruenut unfortunately you are correct. I agree some people can be so cruel and some should never become parents. Becoming a parent is a blessing. I hope things turn better for you and everyone who is going through a rough time. God bless. 🙏
It's great that people become more empathetic and start looking at lives differently... but why can't people take initiative to become more empathetic and a better person all by themselves... why do we have to drag a kid through this mess to become more empathetic??
I became a mom of twins after 10 years of marriage- Allah ka shukar that I was blessed with beautiful healthy babies - My husband wanted to have another and I said no - It was a very firm, calculated NO that no matter what pressures come my way I will not go for another baby - I am super satisfied with my decision- Unfortunately, many girls in Pakistan don’t get autonomy over their bodily rights -
As a father of a 2 year old daughter . You 100% miss out on a lot . Is it hard ? Ofcourse it is ! but when I come back home after a long day at work and she gives me and smile and a hug , all my mental exhaustion goes away ❤
if ur kids one days asks u, why dad? why did u had me ? i am not able to handle this pressure and am tired of this mundane life ,all could had been avoided if u gave it a thought from my prespective before having me , how would u reply?
@@smtkumar007 Because you are saying this I am assuming that you have gone through the same situation I would humbly like to inform you that you're upbringing has FAILED
When you just meet her in the evening lmao Did you face issues of pregnancy? Did you bear labor pain? Do you do all her chores? You're not in a position to judge and deliver a verdict about what she's missing. Pure nonsense
@Nikhil, don't waste your time wondering if you should have a family and kids. You must have that experience so you can stop having these questions on your podcast. First, heal your soul; love will automatically find you. You'll have an amazing family and kids, and you'll enjoy life. Take it from me, a mom of two babies, and my husband, a self-made businessman. We wouldn't have it any other way. You have enough money to lead a beautiful life, and I'm sure you'll be an amazing dad too. When you have a family, all the money you make will have more meaning in your life. I'm praying you find your soulmate soon and have beautiful kids. Having a family will bring you more respect in this world. Don’t wait and wonder-just go ahead and be blessed. If you are scared of finding love and having children change the people around you, they are giving you wrong advice, it’s time for a life upgrade. 💕🌟👍. Love Rachel
I wonder how many folks realise that children are joyful and an important responsibility too. As a parent you are responsible for the wellbeing of your child - Emotional , physical, financial and all other aspectsk. It’s not just about fulfilling a child’s basic needs of food, clothing, shelter. Parental responsibility is not something one should take lightly.. once you become a parent you are a parent for life…
I think most young people or certain people live in the past. I know a woman who was an air hostess. She married and is a house wife and has kids but likes only minding her own business. She does her duties. But she behaves as a teenager. She likes her privacy. She does her stuff. And is a part of NGO. She is very aloof as a person. Very reserved. Some people today are like that. They like their freedom. They don't want to take any responsibilities. They just want to roam, spend money, party etc and that's life for them. Some just are more obsessed with themselves and their comforts and that's a priority to them. Well initially that's okay. Later people get lonely and depressed.
Life in current times is full of hardships. How does a person justify bringing a child in such a world? Imagine even when that child gets physically or mentally bruised, parents would say thats the way he will be become stronger for what future holds. How does a parent justify the suffering of their offspring when they have to face any disease or disorder? This orthodox school of thought that child is the only way to achieve eternal happiness should be changed. In this world of natural calamities or man made wars, how does a person ensure their child will not have to go through its turmoils?
I have a 21 year old and trust me it been a joy ride having him. Sometimes ur upside down on a roller coaster but then it’s fun. I am a ceo and single mom but I managed it all and having a blast
@@shibanimmanohar687 no...gender doesn't matter...son.. daughter...trans...what's the point...it's just a different shape of flesh...this world is sad and bad place to be...no point bringing a new life to this planet...it's like carry wood to a burning house 😢
@@shibanimmanohar687 daughter.. Son.. Trans.. How does gender matter.. It's just a different shape of flesh.... My point is having a kid in this awful world is a terrible thing to do... It's like taking wood to a burning house.. 😢
@@HumanFirst001 pls enjoy your fatherhood. Don't take stress . It will hamper the child's development. What parents think it will vibrate to the child .
Thanks Nikhil. It's surely not easy to live a "public" life and yet have honest, open conversations about perspectives that are generally not shared by everyone. Your honesty about wanting to or not wanting to have a child - for your reasons - has been so empowering. Finally feel like it's okay to have such perspectives and be honest about them vs being made to feel like we're just selfish or cuckoo. Thank you!
I am 36, a Neurologist and Movement Disorder specialist by profession and a mother to a 1.5 year old son. Trust me, my life has never been so beautiful and peaceful. And till you dont experience something, you have no idea what you are missing out in life!
Hi Geetup, I noticed you are a Neurologist and a Movement Disorder Specialist. I was just curious, can you recommend anything for someone has cerebellar ataxia and has a gait in their walk? Do reply if you can, thanks!
never say definitely. Only bring them on the earth when you can give 18-20 years of your time to them until they become independent of you, only when you have finance, resources, physical and emotional readiness. That will happen only of all goes right, or they will be dependent of you for whole life and you will be worried that you cannot even die peacefully.
U r more of a realist than many… no matter which part of life u r at… having kids early definitely gives u more time for them and urself. U focus more on kids problems than ur own for a period when u have the maximum energy and minimum problems
Yes, something happens at soul level and our life gets fufilled, once you have your own kids. Wish you best of luck. I am cherishing it for 6 years and its never seems to end
The greying population is a challenge to any country. But can an average Indian family afford to have more kids when the cost of life is so high? Education, housing, food and healthcare, nothing comes cheap. Can one of the parents stay home to take care of the children? Do we have safe childcare services and family-friendly work culture ? We see homemakers taking care of the household and children 24/7 as the partner is too busy at work. Do we have social security? It is too simplistic to say we should have children so that the country has the ideal demography.
Raising your own kids is something that you will never understand until you experience it, you being poor or rich does not matter. What matters is that you need to have an attitude to give your best to your kids, if you don't have that, not having kids is fine.
I really like that twisted, free-spirited, care free version of nikhil. i love his ideologies.. but personally doesn't influence. in my opinion i have really grown up from taking to giving.. enjoy a phase of nurturing, holding up to responsibilities. when you know your heart stays with something, be with it.
Why does a conversation go towards- if everyone does like that? Because some people will stop making money! It got nothing to do with individual happiness
Having a child is the epitome of happiness; nothing can supersede that. No matter what logic you bring into this argument, the love you receive surpasses everything."
Only people who can care for their children and provide for their education should have kids. It is wrong to bring a child in this world and expect the state to provide for them
There is a difference between being a childfree and a childless person. So both of you are different! But still it is nice to see you both engaging ideas
In short no one is content with what they have. Some thing or the other will always be less in your life, so be happy with what ever you have. Its destiny, we say we don't want this or we want....HIS is the final call
There is a concept - childless by circumstance. It is different from childless by choice. Childless by circumstance is what Kiran is describing. Not many people know about this differentiation - many even presume that if one doesn’t have children, it’s by choice. No, not having the right circumstances at the opportune time for having babies is a truth that many women and men grapple with (an unsupportive spouse, late marriage or no marriage, health issues, financial constraints, are just some of the reasons. PS: for those who think “there’s always adoption” no, it’s never that simple. More conversations need to happen around this aspect of childlessness.
For someone who has degrees in Biology and Anthropology, let me tell you every life form whether a mosquito, cat, tuna, parrot or human have only two objectives in life - to survive and reproduce. If you you don't achieve these two basic objective then the life is considered a failure by nature. Since Humans are social animals, we have an additional objective - Survive, Reproduce & Pleasure. Your favorite food, holiday, career, etc all comes in pleasure. Do not get sidelined by fancy words and forget your basic objectives as a living being!
@@indiantravelsome I have already given you a detailed explanation. Another metaphor for you - you are take a horse to a lake but cannot force it to drink. I can feed you with facts after facts but what to do with it is your responsibility. Commen-sense and facts are two sides of the same coin :-)
Unlike other species, which are driven by instinct, we humans possess thinking capabilities that allow us to bypass those natural instincts and make informed choices. If a deer had capabilities like us, it might refrain from reproducing, knowing that many of its offspring will become prey for other animals higher in the hierarchy. However, due to natural instinct, they continue to reproduce. We humans have empathy and sympathy, yet some people still choose to have children, despite knowing that their offspring will face life struggles, pain in their final years, and ultimately death. Along with the mundane aspects of life for 50 years , all of which they didn't sign up for. If you ask me, I would suggest considering adoption if that inner instinct to nurture is present or u fear of dying alone.
Exactly. Whenever people praises kalam sir or ratan tata sir I always get triggered and say why the hack they are talking about failed people who didn't even reproduce I mean failed in so called basic objective.
Do we have professional town planning experts guiding us on City development? The last town planning expert was Patrick Geddes. Landscaping was by Gustav Krumbiegel and B S Nirody, then came Dr. A Ravindra.
Young people in India, try to avoid responsibility. Taking responsibility always rewards in life be it monetarily at your job/business or in life with relationships. Life is all about making relationships so why wouldn't one invest in the strongest bond that can ever exist, between a parent and child. The vagabond life of roaming eating luxury has an end in the high 30s beyond that you need something to look up to that makes your life complete. Remember every species reproduces, so without experiencing it your life will be incomplete. Also just remember ppl abroad not only raise kids but also do house chores like dishes,clothes, taking kids around for classes along with the job. My point is it's easier to raise a kid in India than in the US or UK where you don't have cheap labor accessible for help. So don't run away from taking the most important responsibility in life it will hit you hard at a point later when luxury/abundance will be there but no real relationship to share it with
Kids are nothing but and obligation, and there is nothing secured in life. Having kids and a big family doesn't mean there isn't a chance if you living and dying alone. So the only thing that is going to accompany you is you yourself and God the creator... Everyone else's contribution comes with a timeline... Your life partner can still be a great support for you but kids take much more than what they can give you.. After kids all you do is adjustments and compromise..
That depends on how you see the family set up as. Kids are the biggest blessings. After a hard day, kids hug can make you forget everything. They will make you relive your own childhood. They will make you believe in innocence again after surviving the tough world out there. If you see it as a burden..sure it will be
The sadness is clear on the face of both. The sad outcome is in front of all through the China story playing out. Unfortunate that a fantastic personality like NK is setting this example.
Having kids means huge responsibility being a mum of two I ask my kids to don't have kids it's really very stressful all the time thinking about their secure future
To all those who doubt the upbringing of the person who doesn't want children... i would say the upbringing and education have been perfectly perfect as they have given the ability to the person to evaluate and question and analyze the rudimentary societal norms and myths.
Its completely a personal choice, both having or not having kids have their pros and cons. If you have a troubled marriage then its better not to have kids.
Firstly you touch upon an issue, which appears normal / personal but having a larger impact as pointed out by Madam Kiran. However I deeply appreciate and amazed at your decision. Wish you two renowned large hearted entrepreneurs inspire many, to give back to society it's due for the larger good. As mentioned the time spent with young children brings joy and a stress buster.
After having a child , I can safely say you will miss out of the kind of love u get from a child of your own !! Seeing the world through kids eyes. It's just beyond amazing!! That only as parents u get to see n travel is so much more insightful. I don't think I ever saw this before having a child.
Plus after having a child the amount of patience it teaches you and kindness and empathy - no text book or life experience can teach you. Of course if you can't have children and you learn to live with that acceptance in best possible way it's wonderful too but if u can and choose not to , I feel definitely you are missing out !
First you should focus on having the right person in your life. If your partner also does not want to have kids, then it's okay. With the right partner having and managing kids will be less daunting than what you might be imagining.
Having kids is important (not ignoring that financially) because nations like Japan and many more will go back because majority population is senior citizens now. Having good youth population supports economy.
I absolutely agree , educate the youngsters, skill development and sharpening the skill will certainly help to progress … as a teacher by profession , I completely loved this pod cast Nikhil and ma’am 👏 10:05
I had miscarriage twice of 1 in 7 months and 2nd in 8th.. then had a 3rd child.. he was 18 .. i lost him in an accident in 2022.. now am in my 50s.. .. i am thinking what is life..
If given a choice would you have chosen to be born? Your parents imposed this birth on you for some selfish reasons or mere out of uncontrollable urge for sex or in pursuit of another male child you were born by mistake . Why would u bring a child in world when child is already free and happy? I am not happy being born and definetly blame my parents for it. I have no guts to end my life so continuing with the matrix.. PS- I am not depressed at all..jus stuck being born. I didn't want to be born :(
குழல்இனிது யாழ்இனிது என்பதம் மக்கள் மழலைச்சொல் கேளா தவர் Written by the great poet Tiruvalluvar thousands of years ago. It means ..."Flute is sweet, Lute is sweet they say those who have not listen to infant's babble"
If all of us get inspired from this and don’t have kids then we will become extinct species. If our parents too had thought of this we wouldn’t have been here in this world. Creating souls is greatest philanthropy .. if you create souls that empower millions it is greatest philanthropy. Having a child is responsibility agreed but then running a company earning money taking care of yourself is also a responsibility. I had baby at 45 yrs of age that too naturally and I delayed this process as I wanted to be financially ready and secure to give good life to my baby. I have an angel daughter and it’s immensely gratifying. Having said all this if one is not mentally ready to have kids then one mustn’t as then they will be bad parent. One must introspect why they want to have kid .. be financially, mentally and emotionally prepared to have kids and it’s indeed a joyful experience. Your Y to have kid should be very clear. Why I wanted to have kid was to create a soul that grows up to empower people. Philanthropy you can do with kids also. If someone really hates kids then one should not have kids as they will be bad parent and may be god made their destiny that way. Till now nothing has given me more joy than being a mother. My husband too didn’t want to have baby as we were 45 yrs old but now he too agrees there is no better joy than this, there is no greater cause than this. Raising your child to be good is like being passionate about growing your company 😊. At times people dont want to kids as they have seen unhappy families at home or are too obsessed with their goals their passion and don’t want to invest time in kids. Everyone’s circumstances are different. Would recommend having one kid. To each his own. Disclaimer this is just my opinion and to what I have seen around. Everyone has freedom to choose. Choose wisely!!
Everyone seems to be so humancentric.....there is very little investment going into wildlife and the huge land corridors it requires as opposed to the needs of a human population
If you have a kid, you'd love the way you're connecting back to yourself. It's not just about discovering opportunities. As a businessman or an entrepreneur, having kids really helps us connecting with next generations and your DNA gets carried on if you raise your kids groundedly. Education is not just about curriculum and schools, it's about someone holding younger kids hands and teaching them what's right and wrong on a daily basis. Organizations and their donations cannot change the truth that parents can influence early in anyone's life. This influence is useless. Is situational and she didn't want or couldn't make, doesn't change facts of any society.
Plus, giving birth to and raising kids is more challenging and satisfying than donating wealth. Raising kids to be great individuals without any expectations from them is a bigger and better way of giving back (one of a kind Nikhil or Nithin k) to society. No amount of charity can compare to that. Most importantly, it's your moral obligation towards your parents to carry the family legacy forward and bring future generations (blood lines) into this world. It's also about witnessing and building great future (WTF!) communities while you are still alive. Imagine you own a company. As an employer, it's one of your duties to make profits and take care of your employees. Would you go and serve the employees of other companies or help them grow when your own employees are feeling let down or there ain't enuf good people to run your company? The same holds true for family as well. Charity begins at home. IF possible, have your own babies, give the elders of your loving family a reason to smile, before opening yourself to the blessings of the world. Once you pass, even the ones (or causes) you donated money to won't remember you. On a lighter note, in the corporate world, technically, it's called 'work avoidance'. Lol
Hi nikhil kudos to kiran and nikhil. Both of u are phenomenal. Each individual should contribute may it be a meagre amt. So we inspire each and everyone to give back to the planet. Best wshes. As far as kids is concerned thats each ones perspective but if u have a strong purpose that itself accomplishes u. ☺️
Many people love dogs, not all adopt them, many people love kids not all have them by choice or by nature's choice, I hv twins n i keep wondering how much i could hv done better had it been one at a time.. so... yes, its a big responsibility, if one is not up for it... so be it. Coming from Kiran Majhmdar Shaw, the sociodemographic view of various countries n the philanthropic point is worth a thought!
Don't worry about giving borth to kids, Scientist are bringing out one AI modal per day and that is going to make the people redundent. No point is having more humans on this earth.
Hi mam Many Biotech aspirants are in lack of hands on skills as the college doesn't have proper infrastructure. When these aspirants want to have a real time experience,they are left with no opportunity as they lack recommendations or money to invest on such expensive courses. Plz provide some skill based learning centre with affordable cost. Thank you
It is a very bold move in India to not to have kids… it’s ok!!! If happiness is related to kids we wouldn’t be having so many issues in India and neighbouring countries… we are just mindlessly multiplying 😅😂
I am really Happy With my 2 kids❤❤i LOVE them a lot.. ha kbhi kbhi frustrated ho jate hai but wo to agar bachhe na bhi hote to bhi ho jaate Meri life me to Bachho ki vajah se discipline aa gaya otherwise me to 🙃😅 Family to chahiye hi❤❤❤❤
Kudos to Kiran Mazumdar.. but more than higher education, the foundation stage requires more attention.. only about 20-30% students reach to college level. Rest fall behind.. if 80-70% are leaving behind...
Having kids makes one circle very limited, as our priority would always be kids over everything. It would bbe too personal , jot that people are not doing big things but obviously their priorities would be kids and family
See when you make the choice of not having kids you are limiting the number of partners for yourself who also believes the same. It's anyway so hard to find a partner , now you are limiting yourself even more. Also having no kids can't be an individual choice, it has to be a couple's decision. If both lifestyle it's too fast paced and you are not willing to slow it down or change or adapt for your partner or kid , than its better not having a kid.
Why we always highlight the point of demographic dividend in India? I have read so many articles where quality of education and graduates and post graduates are in serious question in India. It is advantageous only when we have a skilled workforce and an equal employment opportunity available.
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Truth is.. all of us are going to “miss out” on so many things at some point or the other.. that’s how life works.. we can’t have it all! Just like how when we make a career choice between 2 most wanted options, we miss out on the experience of the option that we didn’t choose.. you’ll never know how your life would’ve turned out of you had chosen a completely different path.. we’re all “missing out” on something or the other all the time.. we just need to make peace with that and keep doing the things that make you feel alive everyday! That’s all🤩
Feel live ❤
Good answer
Like ur perspective 👏🏻
Exactly
Well said😊
If having kids gives all the happiness, then why isn’t India the happiest nation considering the population
Kids are good only. Toxicity comes from Indian parents and in-laws. Hence happiness index is low in India
Well said. It's the most greedy gloomy nation sadly wd explosion population ironically
It's not the case for parents who can't even feed or educate their children.. the guilt eats up the happiness more often than not.. still it does make them happy..
N ppl who have the stability to raise kids like some billionaires.. 'you who know who'.. back out. They have a better chance of giving a good life to their kids.. they can as well as do other philanthropic activities on the side without too much interruption..
So true ❤
Lmao well said
I had this thought: if I had a child and he/she came to me and asked, "Why, Dad? Why did you have me? I can't handle this pressure and pain. I'm tired of this mundane, repetitive life. I'm done. All this suffering could have been avoided if you had considered it from my perspective." That is when I realized that there isn't a single selfless or convincing reason I could give them.
This is why I have decided not to have children. Children aren't toys; they grow into mature individuals. People say life is a gift, but I believe we are potentially gifting 80+ years of imprisonment to a new life that didn't or couldn't ask for it. In law, when you can't get consent for a certain action from an individual, you should not make the decision for them. In such cases, no action is the best action.
This situation coming up depends on the environment and kind of upbringing the child has. Society's expectations from the child. Financial conditions etc.
This "modern" world where we're chasing endless growth constantly leads to such pressure. It's ironic how isolated communities/tribes are probably much more happy and content than people living in cities for example.
All kids are not Same
As you teach them in beginning of life as they will become
@@MOKSH_J_K i doubt u can teach them these things , cause its all environment shaping people thinking.. just as it shaped japan and other 1st world countries where the population in on decrease, most of the reason they give are financial and spiritural , i think all humanity is progressing in this direction. Just like the "rat utopias" experiement
You are a true compassionate antinatalist. Welcome to the family!!
Isn’t life all about facing challenges and growing. If your kids are asking these questions then definitely you as a parent is not doing a good job raising them. Life is never easy no matter where you live or in what era you’re born. When parents have a certain perspective the kids eventually receive it too and what’s the guarantee that even after having all the material stuff in life you’ll be happy. Being a parent is the hardest thing you can do in your life but by being one it makes you realize your own deep set beliefs. When you raise a new life you start asking questions from your deep set beliefs that you’ll never do otherwise. Apart from that you start realizing the kind of compassion and love your own parents put in while raising you. I believe having kids is a personal choice and having somewhat of financial safety net is definitely important before having kids. However, my mom always say that each kid brings his own luck for the family and sometimes things do start to fall in place once you have your kids. Same goes for your marriage as well, sometimes luck starts triggering once you have certain events in life.
No one misses on anything.
Psychologically, if you haven't experience something in first 30-35 years of life, how can you miss that experience?
It's just people mostly do kids either because of following reasons:
1. Parents or partner pressure
2. FOMO by looking others around them
3. Want to leave inheritance or legacy
None of which is a valid reason to do so.
It’s better than living with the room and making everyone’s life hell. Once u have kids u will definitely will develop empathy towards others because now u have something which tells u that not everyone try thing is ur fault or under ur control… helps u mature for sure
@@ijaan108 I'm sorry, but I don't agree. A bad person mostly remains bad no matter if they have kids or not. A good person do not need a reason.
Has Daud Ibrahim became a good person after having so many kids?
This is just false assumption.
@@ijaan108If that's your concern then getting a pet is a better option because nothing can make you more humble than a pet.
Ppl do have kids for emotional needs..it keeps one positive to see someone grow before you . And the feeling of responsibility is amazing.
@@ijaan108 you mean people don't have kids,never get matured??
It’s quite difficult, almost incomprehensible for most Indian people to understand that there are people (male and female) who have no desire to raise a child. They have other passions in life which they are fully committed to and they never think they are missing out.
Im a 30 yr old childfree woman too.. living my dream life, coming back home to a peaceful place, reading my pile of books without any disturbance, sip wine and sleep whenever I want, earn and splurge on whatever I want without any stress, learning new skills every month- gardening, kickboxing, new languages, jiu jitsu, swimming to name a few. My next goal is learning ski in New Zealand.
I have no regrets at all. Even then, all I hear is .. wait for some more time, you'll regret it! It's been a long time.. still not regretting.
I'm 39, retired early, never want kids as they are not worth the headache , I love dogs and cats, met a 34 year old gal with similar interests and have an open relationship with her, also have a Russian gal on the side in Goa.
Life's good.
If you don't want to have kids, that's fine. But your last name and lineage won't survive into the upcoming generations
@@indiantravelsomeno please. Enjoy your life
Tell that to yourself when you hit menopause.
It’s not compulsory to have kids. It’s a couple’s choice. Being parents is a full time job. Many parents don’t have the time and patience with their kids which isn’t really great. It’s is better not to have kids rather than make the kids feel neglected.
Exactly 💯. Neglected children are more tromotised child
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You can't predict that. You come to know only after becoming a parent.
@@KPlyf That’s what is the whole point, one should choose to be a parent if they are 100% confident that they can do a good job with their kids, otherwise , it’s not a compulsion to be a parent.
@@vidyabthimmaiah6431 that ways people are 100% In love but fall out in future. Marry and divorce too. Not wanting pets too but then love them dearly! Nothing is clear cut. Cross the bridge when you come to it.
When you have your own children. You have big responsibility and you want to spend only for your children. I feel nikhil decision is good , he can do more philanthropic work and can do more social work.
Well said. No selfishness.
he can do that work even after having kids
@@RajanVergheseselfishness is a character trait. It doesn’t change by having children.
Absolutely enlightening Kiran mam. You have complete understanding of Indian condition at grassroot level. You should be in policy making of our government. India will really benefit from your experience.
Kudos to Kiran Mazumdar for being so unfiltered about her husband and her missing out on having children..especially on the internet! ❤
We need to also acknowledge (and appreciate) that she and her husband has come to terms with it , accepted the cards dealt to them and choose to continue to find happiness and satisfaction in their life. Respect to her!
Not bringing a child into this cruel world is the biggest philanthropy
Bingo… thank you!
Yessssss
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That is a 'cope'. It is your god-given duty to continue your genetics so that your lineage survives
@@reardeltwhy should it survive? What will happen otherwise?
Going through the comment section the reasons people give for birthing kids all starts with me: my bloodline, my happiness, my connection with me, my empathy level, my betterment as a human... and people call birthing kids a selfless act...
One more point is there: it keeps the husband wife bond strong. I mean seriously???😂
@@sn-op8oi Yeah... thank you! 👏👍
Environmentally speaking, I feel having no kids is the go-to thing in today's times. You could say I have a gloomy, pessimistic attitude towards Life but about people who talk of demographic dividend or having kids, I feel it is so pointless because just today or tomorrow, we may lose out on water, good air etc. and then what use do all of these things hold.
It is also just shocking how even billionaires or people who are so well-informed and educated tend to ignore the environmental problems that look over us. Both Kiran Mazumdar Shaw and Nikhil kamath come from Bangalore and we all know what's happening in the city. I just want to know what their opinion is when it comes to this environmental aspects.
The climate crisis is huge yet we arw living in our own oblivious world, ignorant, unaware and selfish.
Best comment here.
Yes you are right
It's very true... finance and philanthropy will only happen when we have nature it's elements n life around...that no one seems to care really except ocasssional peptalks ..
Yes as a true Banglorean ur words r true.The climate of our city nd water crisis of many people are the burning issues. Urbanization and rampant greenary loss is a big problem.this should b addressed first.Basic necessity r not fulfilled.clean water nd pure air r the basic needs of humans.if u raise ur voice for this causes it vll have a great impact.
Actually it's KIRON MAJUMDAR SHAW s life....let her lead the life as the way she wants...whatever u guys have...it's ok...but don't put ur life understanding on her....she is really GREAT...that's why we r watching her...she deserves only our respect....
I chose not to have kids, I love kids but did not want to have my own we love our life as it is.
Hi
@@AMPA33yeah than why they have too many aged care and old age home in india no guarantee ur kids will look after you
in my opinion, people birth and raise kids with the underlying purpose of keeping themselves occupied… for most, the concept of life is “samay bitane ke liye karna hai kuch kaam”…
I am married for 10 years now. Me and my husband we both do not want any kid right from the beginning and we dont miss anything. I know only few people think like us who actually do not want a kid and there is nothing wrong in it. U need to njy ur life thats it. But people give it different names like bacche nahi ho raha inka but seriously we dont care because we know what it is. In short u should be happy with ur decision and should not be confused. U can njy your life with other things u have. I have seen bacche hoke v log dukhi hote hain divorces and jhagda. So its better to keep ourselves happy with pur decison.
Absolutely… 💯
Absolutely… 💯
20 saal baad pta chalega
@@jyotivyas9286Aapko 40 saal baad jab aapko vrudhashram me daal diya jayega.
Her life her decision @@jyotivyas9286
Please please please help make child adoption for single people easy! Current process is so difficult, esp for. single women who dont want to marry, but adopt a child and raise them! Forget the mental battle women need to fight the society to adopt, but the number of scrutiny of legalities, monetary proof and then again waiting period is insufferable! If only we can make that process faster, people will come forward and adopt! 🙏🏻
I agree
Wel said
i am adopted daughter of single mother...yes true meri mom ne bataya he mujhe k ye kitna hard tha krne k liye......she used oto pray alot for me...and at last by god grace me apni mom ko mil gai
Criminals roaming free, corruption of the highest magnitude , severe environment pollution. Not having kids is the most benevolent act.
😂 what if things get fixed
@@AdityaJape Be happy for those who are alive in that era. Why always do one have to be regretful? Just a simple example for your understanding - I'm a billionaire and choose to have a normal car even when I can totally afford to have a sports/super car. I can still be happy for those who have one and not regret not having one of my own! Does that make sense?
The Reasons why I don't like to have kids:-
1. We both work in 9-5 we don't run any businesses so we feel like taking retirement in 50's and leave bangalore but with kids we can't
2. I don't want my body to undergo so many changes like pregnancy, postpartum and some hormonal changes
3. I don't want to invest too much emotions on my kids I have seen almost all mothers or parents giving too much love to their kid and they can't tolerate little arrogance from kids. They start acting too dramatic I don't want to be that
4.I hate this world and education system I don't want to pressure my kids regarding studies but now adays competition is getting more and more so im worried about that
5.I have my own dreams and life so I won't feel happy If I sacrifice that
6. My MIL is negative person she is not staying with us if I have kid she comes and starts staying with us and she is obsessed with kid and she gonna snatch kid from me and she might teach some negative things about me and my husband for that kid and make my kid stubborn I want to avoid her
But My family has to understand this I don't know what to do
As a working married woman I can completely understand where u r coming from. Sometimes I also think about the same things.
I hv the same thinking. World is not getting any better, competition in every front of life, constant worry about making ur children good humans and successful, all that is too much
My sister in law struggles managing them. They break things and fight a lot . They are so stubborn that if they want something they will create tantrums. Kids are not for everyone, especially when you lack patience and energy. The parents end up becoming more bitter and the kids end up mentally damaged.
@@samarthsprasad2258 exactly this is what I am concerned about my mother in law has made my husband stubborn from childhood even he is good person he is stubborn sometimes she only cannot tolerate that but I have seen she always keep on telling him whenever he have fight with her that you will understand when you will have kid in future I know every mother says that but I can feel some bad intentions from her eyes so that is also one of the reasons I don't want to have kids
Same bro same❤
One of the most neglected demographic is the handicapped or differently abled. We must give more to ex deaf, blind children, help make them ready for to earn their livelihood. My heart breaks when i see deaf, blind kids especially girl children. I would vote for thst Nikhil
People in comments 😂talking about having kids, as if it’s a big achievement,😂😂😂 it’s the most common thing humans do, that too for their own selfish needs, such as a social status trophy or a retirement plan🤣
And also, not having kids is just the same. They’re doing nothing special. People don’t have kids because of their own selfish needs!! Freeeedom eh!!! 😂😂😂
@@sugandhachowdhry yeah not having them because of selfishness is awesome because you’re not gonna be responsible for screwing up another human’s life for obtaining a personal social status and a trophy kid or a retirement plan to show off to people. People want kids only as a trophy or a retirement plan, that’s using another human for your selfish satisfaction. Very mahaan👏👏👏😂
yes!!! the most natural instinct is to reproduce lol.
Having kids is not an achievement. No one ever says that. If you hear someone saying those EXACT words…Run in opposite direction. Having kids is a privilege of opportunity and chance to commitment. We say, I am going to be a person and commit each and every minute of my life to this precious privilege bestowed upon me. We try and be better person than what we were. We watch our actions and words. Yes, some of us are not rich but we try our best . We are not perfect either, but every sincere parent does try. We are not doing any favor to the child. Raising a child, is an opportunity to rise to the occasion and raise yourself as a better person, so that you give the child a safe, loving, wise, calming environment, thus giving the child to be a better person than us.
@@sugandhachowdhryso true
Having kid changes your life 360 degree. In my experience I am other person. I have become more empathetic. You start seeing others and life with different glance.
Totally true. Infact, if you go back and see things in past, like something as random as song or movie, your perspective is completely different. Funny thing, it changes as the child grows older. Also, we change so much on how we deal with people and problems.
Not true for everyone sadly. So many cruel and bigoted people did not change after becoming parents - sometimes they are worse!
@@atruenut unfortunately you are correct. I agree some people can be so cruel and some should never become parents. Becoming a parent is a blessing. I hope things turn better for you and everyone who is going through a rough time. God bless. 🙏
It's great that people become more empathetic and start looking at lives differently... but why can't people take initiative to become more empathetic and a better person all by themselves... why do we have to drag a kid through this mess to become more empathetic??
We should have a discussion around adoption.. more conversations will normalize adoption.
I became a mom of twins after 10 years of marriage- Allah ka shukar that I was blessed with beautiful healthy babies - My husband wanted to have another and I said no - It was a very firm, calculated NO that no matter what pressures come my way I will not go for another baby - I am super satisfied with my decision- Unfortunately, many girls in Pakistan don’t get autonomy over their bodily rights -
As a father of a 2 year old daughter . You 100% miss out on a lot . Is it hard ? Ofcourse it is ! but when I come back home after a long day at work and she gives me and smile and a hug , all my mental exhaustion goes away ❤
if ur kids one days asks u, why dad? why did u had me ? i am not able to handle this pressure and am tired of this mundane life ,all could had been avoided if u gave it a thought from my prespective before having me , how would u reply?
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@@smtkumar007 Because you are saying this I am assuming that you have gone through the same situation
I would humbly like to inform you that you're upbringing has FAILED
He does not come back from a long day at work.
When you just meet her in the evening lmao
Did you face issues of pregnancy? Did you bear labor pain? Do you do all her chores?
You're not in a position to judge and deliver a verdict about what she's missing.
Pure nonsense
@Nikhil, don't waste your time wondering if you should have a family and kids. You must have that experience so you can stop having these questions on your podcast.
First, heal your soul; love will automatically find you. You'll have an amazing family and kids, and you'll enjoy life. Take it from me, a mom of two babies, and my husband, a self-made businessman. We wouldn't have it any other way.
You have enough money to lead a beautiful life, and I'm sure you'll be an amazing dad too. When you have a family, all the money you make will have more meaning in your life. I'm praying you find your soulmate soon and have beautiful kids.
Having a family will bring you more respect in this world. Don’t wait and wonder-just go ahead and be blessed.
If you are scared of finding love and having children change the people around you, they are giving you wrong advice, it’s time for a life upgrade. 💕🌟👍.
Love
Rachel
I wonder how many folks realise that children are joyful and an important responsibility too. As a parent you are responsible for the wellbeing of your child - Emotional , physical, financial and all other aspectsk. It’s not just about fulfilling a child’s basic needs of food, clothing, shelter. Parental responsibility is not something one should take lightly.. once you become a parent you are a parent for life…
I think most young people or certain people live in the past.
I know a woman who was an air hostess. She married and is a house wife and has kids but likes only minding her own business. She does her duties. But she behaves as a teenager. She likes her privacy. She does her stuff. And is a part of NGO. She is very aloof as a person. Very reserved.
Some people today are like that. They like their freedom. They don't want to take any responsibilities. They just want to roam, spend money, party etc and that's life for them.
Some just are more obsessed with themselves and their comforts and that's a priority to them.
Well initially that's okay. Later people get lonely and depressed.
I completely agree with not having kids and donating for research and education is absolute bliss😊
I completely agree with Nikhil. Thanks for normalizing this. Animal welfare is one of the underfunded area. Philanthropy can help.
Life in current times is full of hardships. How does a person justify bringing a child in such a world? Imagine even when that child gets physically or mentally bruised, parents would say thats the way he will be become stronger for what future holds. How does a parent justify the suffering of their offspring when they have to face any disease or disorder? This orthodox school of thought that child is the only way to achieve eternal happiness should be changed. In this world of natural calamities or man made wars, how does a person ensure their child will not have to go through its turmoils?
Exactly... thank you!
I have a 21 year old and trust me it been a joy ride having him. Sometimes ur upside down on a roller coaster but then it’s fun. I am a ceo and single mom but I managed it all and having a blast
This podcast is quite close to home and a goldmine… Thanks Kiran for sharing…
Nikhil, u r doing wonders by creating such varied podcasts🎉❤
India having huge population but quality population matters for building economy.
Watching these guys literally makes us feel how far they have come from the point we are today😢
Even as a father of a 1 year old daughter...m 100% with Nitin K's thinking.... More Power to you brother....❤❤❤❤
Do you regret having your daughter? Just curious ...
@@shibanimmanohar687 no...gender doesn't matter...son.. daughter...trans...what's the point...it's just a different shape of flesh...this world is sad and bad place to be...no point bringing a new life to this planet...it's like carry wood to a burning house 😢
@@shibanimmanohar687 daughter.. Son.. Trans.. How does gender matter.. It's just a different shape of flesh.... My point is having a kid in this awful world is a terrible thing to do... It's like taking wood to a burning house.. 😢
@@HumanFirst001 pls enjoy your fatherhood. Don't take stress . It will hamper the child's development. What parents think it will vibrate to the child .
@@nanditac9225 thank you for ur wishes... I always ensure it but looking at all d evil things in dis world makes me anxious n concerned about d future
Thanks Nikhil. It's surely not easy to live a "public" life and yet have honest, open conversations about perspectives that are generally not shared by everyone. Your honesty about wanting to or not wanting to have a child - for your reasons - has been so empowering. Finally feel like it's okay to have such perspectives and be honest about them vs being made to feel like we're just selfish or cuckoo. Thank you!
Kids or no kids, it should not feel like a Liability.
M also 36 got married at 29 and though struggling no big regret
I am 36, a Neurologist and Movement Disorder specialist by profession and a mother to a 1.5 year old son. Trust me, my life has never been so beautiful and peaceful. And till you dont experience something, you have no idea what you are missing out in life!
Hi Geetup,
I noticed you are a Neurologist and a Movement Disorder Specialist. I was just curious, can you recommend anything for someone has cerebellar ataxia and has a gait in their walk? Do reply if you can, thanks!
@@dollsdoll1 😂😂
@@dollsdoll1 get an appointment cheapskate 😂
Already have...it's just good to know about other options!😉 So, mind your own business nosy one!😀
No harm in gaining some knowledge!😀
Kids are the light of life.. I don't have any. But will definitely have 2 in future..
i think population is enough bro do not have
never say definitely. Only bring them on the earth when you can give 18-20 years of your time to them until they become independent of you, only when you have finance, resources, physical and emotional readiness. That will happen only of all goes right, or they will be dependent of you for whole life and you will be worried that you cannot even die peacefully.
U r more of a realist than many… no matter which part of life u r at… having kids early definitely gives u more time for them and urself. U focus more on kids problems than ur own for a period when u have the maximum energy and minimum problems
Yes, something happens at soul level and our life gets fufilled, once you have your own kids. Wish you best of luck.
I am cherishing it for 6 years and its never seems to end
@@Satyamsivam1 nothing happens only poverty
The greying population is a challenge to any country. But can an average Indian family afford to have more kids when the cost of life is so high? Education, housing, food and healthcare, nothing comes cheap. Can one of the parents stay home to take care of the children? Do we have safe childcare services and family-friendly work culture ? We see homemakers taking care of the household and children 24/7 as the partner is too busy at work. Do we have social security? It is too simplistic to say we should have children so that the country has the ideal demography.
Logical comment
Very true...
Lot of respect and admiration for ur honesty-both of you,so down to Earth.
2:51 Thats very scientific and this is one of the reason I vote for Modi and Yogi ji
Raising your own kids is something that you will never understand until you experience it, you being poor or rich does not matter. What matters is that you need to have an attitude to give your best to your kids, if you don't have that, not having kids is fine.
I really like that twisted, free-spirited, care free version of nikhil. i love his ideologies.. but personally doesn't influence. in my opinion i have really grown up from taking to giving.. enjoy a phase of nurturing, holding up to responsibilities. when you know your heart stays with something, be with it.
Why does a conversation go towards- if everyone does like that?
Because some people will stop making money!
It got nothing to do with individual happiness
Having a child is the epitome of happiness; nothing can supersede that. No matter what logic you bring into this argument, the love you receive surpasses everything."
And yet orphanages & the foster system are overflowing....
@@antarasarkar12 kuchh bhi
Kahin bhi
@@adityasharma2k Logical baat kar di na maine - isliye aapko samjha nahi aaya. Koi na, hota hai.
New education policy is great initiative..hope the government and teachers accerelate the quality effort..
Only people who can care for their children and provide for their education should have kids. It is wrong to bring a child in this world and expect the state to provide for them
There is a difference between being a childfree and a childless person. So both of you are different! But still it is nice to see you both engaging ideas
In short no one is content with what they have. Some thing or the other will always be less in your life, so be happy with what ever you have.
Its destiny, we say we don't want this or we want....HIS is the final call
There is a concept - childless by circumstance. It is different from childless by choice. Childless by circumstance is what Kiran is describing. Not many people know about this differentiation - many even presume that if one doesn’t have children, it’s by choice. No, not having the right circumstances at the opportune time for having babies is a truth that many women and men grapple with (an unsupportive spouse, late marriage or no marriage, health issues, financial constraints, are just some of the reasons. PS: for those who think “there’s always adoption” no, it’s never that simple. More conversations need to happen around this aspect of childlessness.
Without kids you are going to miss and With kids you are going to miss. So relax👍
For someone who has degrees in Biology and Anthropology, let me tell you every life form whether a mosquito, cat, tuna, parrot or human have only two objectives in life - to survive and reproduce. If you you don't achieve these two basic objective then the life is considered a failure by nature.
Since Humans are social animals, we have an additional objective - Survive, Reproduce & Pleasure. Your favorite food, holiday, career, etc all comes in pleasure.
Do not get sidelined by fancy words and forget your basic objectives as a living being!
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Source for your info plz ?
Dont comment the sky is blue joke again 😅
@@indiantravelsome I have already given you a detailed explanation. Another metaphor for you - you are take a horse to a lake but cannot force it to drink. I can feed you with facts after facts but what to do with it is your responsibility. Commen-sense and facts are two sides of the same coin
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Unlike other species, which are driven by instinct, we humans possess thinking capabilities that allow us to bypass those natural instincts and make informed choices. If a deer had capabilities like us, it might refrain from reproducing, knowing that many of its offspring will become prey for other animals higher in the hierarchy. However, due to natural instinct, they continue to reproduce.
We humans have empathy and sympathy, yet some people still choose to have children, despite knowing that their offspring will face life struggles, pain in their final years, and ultimately death. Along with the mundane aspects of life for 50 years , all of which they didn't sign up for. If you ask me, I would suggest considering adoption if that inner instinct to nurture is present or u fear of dying alone.
@@smtkumar007 yes and it blows my mind in a bad way when ppl with degreees in blah blah speak like that
Thanks for that great articulation
Exactly. Whenever people praises kalam sir or ratan tata sir I always get triggered and say why the hack they are talking about failed people who didn't even reproduce I mean failed in so called basic objective.
** Education the first & foremost part of any society to grow, yes the education from school…
Very very well said
Do we have professional town planning experts guiding us on City development? The last town planning expert was Patrick Geddes. Landscaping was by Gustav Krumbiegel and B S Nirody, then came Dr. A Ravindra.
Everyone is free to do whatever they want, don't need any validationvfrom anyone, but should not regret one's decision at any point in life
Asking a successful woman this question in todays time and age!! Would be interesting to see how Many males with no kids get asked the same question
Kiran ma'am has got some clarity which is worth admiring
Young people in India, try to avoid responsibility.
Taking responsibility always rewards in life be it monetarily at your job/business or in life with relationships. Life is all about making relationships so why wouldn't one invest in the strongest bond that can ever exist, between a parent and child. The vagabond life of roaming eating luxury has an end in the high 30s beyond that you need something to look up to that makes your life complete.
Remember every species reproduces, so without experiencing it your life will be incomplete.
Also just remember ppl abroad not only raise kids but also do house chores like dishes,clothes, taking kids around for classes along with the job.
My point is it's easier to raise a kid in India than in the US or UK where you don't have cheap labor accessible for help. So don't run away from taking the most important responsibility in life it will hit you hard at a point later when luxury/abundance will be there but no real relationship to share it with
Kids are nothing but and obligation, and there is nothing secured in life. Having kids and a big family doesn't mean there isn't a chance if you living and dying alone. So the only thing that is going to accompany you is you yourself and God the creator... Everyone else's contribution comes with a timeline... Your life partner can still be a great support for you but kids take much more than what they can give you.. After kids all you do is adjustments and compromise..
That depends on how you see the family set up as. Kids are the biggest blessings. After a hard day, kids hug can make you forget everything. They will make you relive your own childhood. They will make you believe in innocence again after surviving the tough world out there. If you see it as a burden..sure it will be
Nikhil your decision of not having kids is ultimate ❤❤❤
The sadness is clear on the face of both. The sad outcome is in front of all through the China story playing out. Unfortunate that a fantastic personality like NK is setting this example.
Having kids means huge responsibility being a mum of two I ask my kids to don't have kids it's really very stressful all the time thinking about their secure future
To all those who doubt the upbringing of the person who doesn't want children... i would say the upbringing and education have been perfectly perfect as they have given the ability to the person to evaluate and question and analyze the rudimentary societal norms and myths.
Its completely a personal choice, both having or not having kids have their pros and cons.
If you have a troubled marriage then its better not to have kids.
Firstly you touch upon an issue, which appears normal / personal but having a larger impact as pointed out by Madam Kiran.
However I deeply appreciate and amazed at your decision.
Wish you two renowned large hearted entrepreneurs inspire many, to give back to society it's due for the larger good.
As mentioned the time spent with young children brings joy and a stress buster.
After having a child , I can safely say you will miss out of the kind of love u get from a child of your own !! Seeing the world through kids eyes. It's just beyond amazing!! That only as parents u get to see n travel is so much more insightful. I don't think I ever saw this before having a child.
Plus after having a child the amount of patience it teaches you and kindness and empathy - no text book or life experience can teach you. Of course if you can't have children and you learn to live with that acceptance in best possible way it's wonderful too but if u can and choose not to , I feel definitely you are missing out !
First you should focus on having the right person in your life. If your partner also does not want to have kids, then it's okay.
With the right partner having and managing kids will be less daunting than what you might be imagining.
Having kids is important (not ignoring that financially) because nations like Japan and many more will go back because majority population is senior citizens now. Having good youth population supports economy.
I absolutely agree , educate the youngsters, skill development and sharpening the skill will certainly help to progress … as a teacher by profession , I completely loved this pod cast Nikhil and ma’am 👏
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I had miscarriage twice of 1 in 7 months and 2nd in 8th.. then had a 3rd child.. he was 18 .. i lost him in an accident in 2022.. now am in my 50s.. .. i am thinking what is life..
This is sad.. I hope you get more connected to you and find peace and happiness within yourself.. we never know what life is gonna bring for you..
This is such a sad thing to hear…
If given a choice would you have chosen to be born? Your parents imposed this birth on you for some selfish reasons or mere out of uncontrollable urge for sex or in pursuit of another male child you were born by mistake . Why would u bring a child in world when child is already free and happy? I am not happy being born and definetly blame my parents for it. I have no guts to end my life so continuing with the matrix.. PS- I am not depressed at all..jus stuck being born. I didn't want to be born :(
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குழல்இனிது யாழ்இனிது என்பதம் மக்கள்
மழலைச்சொல் கேளா தவர்
Written by the great poet Tiruvalluvar thousands of years ago.
It means ..."Flute is sweet, Lute is sweet they say those who have not listen to infant's babble"
True,but this is Nikhil's perception.
But with kids struggle is real
Cruelty was always wars and all with swords. Imagine
My opinion - we need to have more kids. At least 3/4
Bring olden times back
Nikhil Kamat , just be happy that you and your partner are at a same page. Congratulations 🎉
Wow
Does he have one ?
@@Nittychirayath No, and that's how people are getting brainwashed.
If all of us get inspired from this and don’t have kids then we will become extinct species. If our parents too had thought of this we wouldn’t have been here in this world. Creating souls is greatest philanthropy .. if you create souls that empower millions it is greatest philanthropy. Having a child is responsibility agreed but then running a company earning money taking care of yourself is also a responsibility. I had baby at 45 yrs of age that too naturally and I delayed this process as I wanted to be financially ready and secure to give good life to my baby. I have an angel daughter and it’s immensely gratifying. Having said all this if one is not mentally ready to have kids then one mustn’t as then they will be bad parent. One must introspect why they want to have kid .. be financially, mentally and emotionally prepared to have kids and it’s indeed a joyful experience. Your Y to have kid should be very clear. Why I wanted to have kid was to create a soul that grows up to empower people. Philanthropy you can do with kids also. If someone really hates kids then one should not have kids as they will be bad parent and may be god made their destiny that way. Till now nothing has given me more joy than being a mother. My husband too didn’t want to have baby as we were 45 yrs old but now he too agrees there is no better joy than this, there is no greater cause than this. Raising your child to be good is like being passionate about growing your company 😊. At times people dont want to kids as they have seen unhappy families at home or are too obsessed with their goals their passion and don’t want to invest time in kids. Everyone’s circumstances are different. Would recommend having one kid.
To each his own. Disclaimer this is just my opinion and to what I have seen around. Everyone has freedom to choose. Choose wisely!!
You can never answer this question until you have your own kid!
Not having kid is a good choice... I think j won't regret it in future...😊
Everyone seems to be so humancentric.....there is very little investment going into wildlife and the huge land corridors it requires as opposed to the needs of a human population
If you have a kid, you'd love the way you're connecting back to yourself. It's not just about discovering opportunities. As a businessman or an entrepreneur, having kids really helps us connecting with next generations and your DNA gets carried on if you raise your kids groundedly. Education is not just about curriculum and schools, it's about someone holding younger kids hands and teaching them what's right and wrong on a daily basis. Organizations and their donations cannot change the truth that parents can influence early in anyone's life. This influence is useless. Is situational and she didn't want or couldn't make, doesn't change facts of any society.
Plus, giving birth to and raising kids is more challenging and satisfying than donating wealth. Raising kids to be great individuals without any expectations from them is a bigger and better way of giving back (one of a kind Nikhil or Nithin k) to society. No amount of charity can compare to that.
Most importantly, it's your moral obligation towards your parents to carry the family legacy forward and bring future generations (blood lines) into this world. It's also about witnessing and building great future (WTF!) communities while you are still alive. Imagine you own a company. As an employer, it's one of your duties to make profits and take care of your employees. Would you go and serve the employees of other companies or help them grow when your own employees are feeling let down or there ain't enuf good people to run your company? The same holds true for family as well. Charity begins at home.
IF possible, have your own babies, give the elders of your loving family a reason to smile, before opening yourself to the blessings of the world. Once you pass, even the ones (or causes) you donated money to won't remember you.
On a lighter note, in the corporate world, technically, it's called 'work avoidance'. Lol
Hi nikhil kudos to kiran and nikhil. Both of u are phenomenal. Each individual should contribute may it be a meagre amt. So we inspire each and everyone to give back to the planet. Best wshes. As far as kids is concerned thats each ones perspective but if u have a strong purpose that itself accomplishes u. ☺️
Many people love dogs, not all adopt them, many people love kids not all have them by choice or by nature's choice,
I hv twins n i keep wondering how much i could hv done better had it been one at a time.. so... yes, its a big responsibility, if one is not up for it... so be it.
Coming from Kiran Majhmdar Shaw, the sociodemographic view of various countries n the philanthropic point is worth a thought!
Thankyou for saying the truth and not saying ohh we did not want one ...
Plant trees and promote environmental sustainability
Every decision comes with consequences, don't run around, asking people whether you are right or wrong, a decision is a decision, live with it😒.
Contribution to society (humanity) is more imporatant. Contribution to already Billion population is NOT important.
Don't worry about giving borth to kids, Scientist are bringing out one AI modal per day and that is going to make the people redundent. No point is having more humans on this earth.
Hi mam
Many Biotech aspirants are in lack of hands on skills as the college doesn't have proper infrastructure.
When these aspirants want to have a real time experience,they are left with no opportunity as they lack recommendations or money to invest on such expensive courses.
Plz provide some skill based learning centre with affordable cost.
Thank you
It is a very bold move in India to not to have kids… it’s ok!!! If happiness is related to kids we wouldn’t be having so many issues in India and neighbouring countries… we are just mindlessly multiplying 😅😂
Hats off to your attitude of learning Nikhil! See you some day :)
I am really Happy With my 2 kids❤❤i LOVE them a lot.. ha kbhi kbhi frustrated ho jate hai but wo to agar bachhe na bhi hote to bhi ho jaate
Meri life me to Bachho ki vajah se discipline aa gaya otherwise me to 🙃😅
Family to chahiye hi❤❤❤❤
Why don’t mention guest name and firm name in description..?
Kudos to Kiran Mazumdar.. but more than higher education, the foundation stage requires more attention.. only about 20-30% students reach to college level. Rest fall behind.. if 80-70% are leaving behind...
Having kids makes one circle very limited, as our priority would always be kids over everything. It would bbe too personal , jot that people are not doing big things but obviously their priorities would be kids and family
See when you make the choice of not having kids you are limiting the number of partners for yourself who also believes the same. It's anyway so hard to find a partner , now you are limiting yourself even more. Also having no kids can't be an individual choice, it has to be a couple's decision. If both lifestyle it's too fast paced and you are not willing to slow it down or change or adapt for your partner or kid , than its better not having a kid.
Why we always highlight the point of demographic dividend in India? I have read so many articles where quality of education and graduates and post graduates are in serious question in India. It is advantageous only when we have a skilled workforce and an equal employment opportunity available.
Very true ..
And somehow we are so focused on GDP and growth...and not the quality of life of the people