Ranking Every Elden Ring: Shadow of The Erdtree Boss in 22 Minutes and 47 Seconds.
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- In This Video We're Ranking Every Elden Ring: Shadow of The Erdtree Boss in 22 Minutes and 47 Seconds. Elden Ring: Shadow of The Erdtree is an Interesting DLC; It's Not Perfect, There's a Bit Too Much Copy/Paste and The Devs Played With a Highly Experimental Difficulty Mechanic, That Said I Enjoyed Streaming it and Now, I'm Going To Enjoy Ranking it Too... In 22 Minutes and 47 Seconds!
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"pre pubescent knight" goes hard
Indeed.
My guy put golden hippo above messmer💀 What are you smoking
He's Not That Bad Now That Fixed His AI, Also Messmer is Only Down There Because His Command Grab is Too Powerful. The Fragment System Really Screwed Up Balancing in General.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander not tryna be a dick but his grab is so slow I could go and take a shit come back to the game and still have time to react to it. It’s got an insane amount of startup frames so if you’re getting grabbed by it it’s literally a skill issue. Messmer is one of the most fair and well designed bosses in the game. That’s why everyone loves him
this is just a tier list of how hard is it to summon mimic.
Well, Since 99% of Players Play That Way and Miyazaki Himself Said That You're Intended To Play Elden Ring as More Traditional RPG, That's Pretty Much The Minimum Quota For The Player Skill Level. I Don't Care Too Much, I've Beaten All of The Souls Games at +9 Solo (Except Bloodborne, I Just Never Seem To Have The Time).
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander I mainly say this because you said somewhere else that radahn would be A - S tier if it was easier to summon mimic but because it's kinda hard then he's F tier. that doesn't really seem like you're ranking the boss based on anything but how hard it is to summon mimic.
Now if only Fromsoft could fix the fps issued with Radahn's second phase we would be square. Genuinely impossible to do anything when his light blasts tank the fps
Yep, The FPS Across The Board For This DLC is Awful. They Already Did a Patch For it But It's Still Miserable at Times.
the amount of toxicity in this comment section reminds me why i left this community, people getting mad because of someone elses harmless opinions, reeing in the comments about how they think everyone else should play the game the way that they want and personally attacking literally anyone who doesn't agree with them. this is the reason big name youtubers/streamers like vinny and asmongold wouldn't touch our games for years and if shit like this keeps up our games are going to fall back into obscurity and fromsoft will go back to working on a budget. fuck the dark souls community.
While I Agree With The Sentiment (Albeit With a Bit Less Aggression), It's Important To Remember That The Souls Community is Like Any Other; There Are Good Members and Bad Members. There Are a Lot of People in The Souls Community Who Are Helpful and Are Willing To Have a Thoughtful Discussion (Even if They Don't Agree With You).
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander it's just annoying that the only people who ever open their mouths are the ones with nothing positive to say.
@@SkittyonWailord Welcome To The Internet, You Must Be New Here.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander yep, the internet is a horrible place filled with horrible people. btw did you hear that miyazaki implied that the next fromsoft game might be a fire emblem-like? i know you've said that you're a big fe fan before.
@@SkittyonWailord Yeah, I Heard About That, I've Actually Mentioned it in a Couple Other Comments. He Implied Their Next Game Would Either Be Something Along The Lines of Final Fantasy or Fire Emblem. I Don't Know How You'd Make an FF-Like Hard, Since Turn-Based RPGs Are Easy By Nature. As For an FE-Like They'd Have To Somehow Make a Game That's Harder Than Thracia 776.
I completely disagree with you on Bayle, and everyone is entitled to there own opinions, but the main one I’ve seen lately is that he is fromsofts best dragon boss, and I agree
His music is great
His attacks are all extremely well telegraphed
His npc summon is top tier
And his phase two transition is great
(Also the fact they give you a low req weapon built for the fight that you need to get to enter the area)
Anyway nice tier list other than gaius and Mesmer in my opinion, but yeah I’m gonna have to fully disagree with Bayle, probably one of my favorite souls bosses of all time now
Edit: Midra in S isn’t gonna get any complaints from me though lol, love that boss
Here's how I see it. Bayle is at the very least one of the best Dragon bosses. Dragon bosses also kinda fucking suck as a whole, as do most bosses of their size.
I'm sure it's a very fun fight for a ranged character but I'm tired of fighting a blob of pixels occupying my entire screen as melee. It doesn't feel epic whatsoever, it just feels like I have to play with 5% of the visual cues that are supposed to be part of the attack animations.
I'm Happy To Agree To Disagree as Long as People Are Respectful (Which You Were). I See We Both Agree on Midra Though.
@@Jestemkioskiem I Think For Future Big Boi Dragon Fights FromSoftware Should Focus on Audio Cues Since Visual Cues Aren't Really a Viable Option.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander I definitely agree dragon bosses need a change, hence why I like Bayle so much, his head is always down
So tired of playing hit the feet simulator lol
@@Jestemkioskiem yup, that’s why I only find 4 dragon fights as being good fights in the whole souls series, Midir, Placidusax, Bayle, and Divine Dragon. All others are just standing under a big dragon hitting its toes, very annoying
I think this DLC gives a lot of people different reactions every playthrough
I'm pretty sure I got Bayle down in one try, maybe because of the weapon I was using, but still got him in one try. On the other hand, Gaius kept on kicking my fucking ass every single goddamn time and I hated that charged attack of his.
But on subsequent playthroughs, I felt that taking down these bosses changed a lot. Rellana became a pain in my ass and so too did the Divine Beast. I don't know why fighting Rellana suddenly became hard, or why fighting Bayle was easy, but I think because of this, rankings become EXTREMELY subjective at times to the point where no amount of objectiveness becomes clear.
But that's just me.
I Think That's a Fair Assessment, I'll Be Curious To See How it Plays Out When I Attempt a Solo Run Eventually.
9:06 skibidi tree fragments
Yep, I Also Refer To The Scadutree Avatar as Skibiditree Avatar.
radan has a pattern where he doesn't charge you at the start? news to me he always charged for me
Yep, It's Uncommon (About 1 in 10-ish) But it Happens.
Twin Moons can be avoided just by jumping. I begged she did that to take a breather as a mage.
The sword energy blades that needed light roll to be avoided were more annoying.
I Didn't Think To Jump, So Yeah Probably Bump Up To S Then. You Can Dodge The Beams as Medium Build, Not Sure About Heavy Though.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander you can dodge with medium but not all of them. You get hit with at least one.
Glad to be of help bro.
@@ManOzzY Really? Cuz I Dodged All of Them and I was Medium Build.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander consecutive rolls don't work because its too late. I am certain, I tried it many times. I got hit by one at least, fortunately it was mildly punishing. When i went light roll I got her 1st try. And with a mage.
I like how you put Radahn on F tier, trash fight. I almost got epilepsy.
@@ManOzzY I Don't Know How To Describe The Twin Knight Dodge, But Basically You Have To Time Your Medium Rolls With a Certain Amount of Delay, And Yeah Radahn is Rough But I Really Don't Think He'd Be That Bad if They Fix His AI.
This guy is absolutely insane.
Completely agree with this list👍
I'm Impressed That We Have The Taste in Bosses.
I feel completely swapped with Messmer/Gaius lmao. I could NEVER dodge Gaius's charge consistently. Messmer felt extremely simple and straight forward with his attacks (except for the waterfowl-esque move, I had to learn to finagle it so I would only get hit by it minimally). I really only died to Messmer since I would panic sometimes, never really felt like bullshit.
It's Mostly His Command Grab That's Unfair, as it Has a Bad Tendency To Home in on You During The Last Couple of Frames. As For Gaius, He's Not That Hard on Torrent, But The Real Trick To The Fight is Staying in The Middle of The Arena as Much as Possible.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xanderhis grab is completely fair and very well telegraphed. also it didn't one shot me at RL150
@@Bill_9999 How Many Frags Did You Have? Because He Was 1-Shotting Me at 195-ish and I Was at +9-ish Shadow Blessings.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander the same as you I think, I remember it being around 8. I had 60 vigor + dragoncrest greatshield talisman and I think I had armour of solitude
@@Bill_9999 That's Probably How You Survived Then. I Was at 55 Vigor With The +3 Crimson Tear Talisman and Was Still Getting 1-Tapped. Honestly, The Amount of Damage Wouldn't Matter if The Command Grab Didn't Home in on You During The Last 10 or So Frames.
It would be nice to know what build you were using, I found that going with my faith caster build, Bayle easily tops A tier, but Gaius drops pretty low, around where you put him. Otherwise, I agree with the vast majority of boss placements, though my problem with Radhan is his aggressiveness and infinite health. He doesn't even have a targetable weak point that makes Bayle and Midir playable. I'd drop Golden hippo down a tier though, Dude is just a massive HP bar with a grab attack that he likes to do for no reason. The quills are super annoying too, like Aldritch's second phase bow attack. The only other boss that I would change is Messmer since I found him to be quite readable, even his snake extravaganza and the grab. I definitely think these bosses would benefit from having a fucking stamina bar though.
Radahn's Not That Bad if You're Using Physical Weapons and/or Bleed, Don't Know About Magic Though. Messmer Mostly Got Moved Down Because of The Homing on The Last Couple of Frames of His Grab And as For My Build I'm a Physical Beast Who Use's Greataxe's/Bleed Weapons Depending on The Fight.
10:13 i feel like i fought a different lion. the camera was getting fucked with so much on my end idk what you did to fix it but damn that wouldve been cool to not have a goofy camera that whole fight
I Mostly Fought Him at Mid To Long Range, and Stayed Out of Corners. In Fact Staying Out of Corners is The Trick To Minimizing Camera BS in Souls in General.
Bayle in f
That a A teir boss
@@LawrenceDennis-gh2ck Well, It's Fair if You Want To Disagree. Since You're Not Being Disrespectful, That's Perfectly Fine. 🙂
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander I mean he’s my favourite but I’m biased because i just like dragon bosses but even then I think he has one of the best and most interesting moves in the entire game and is basically a cinematic masterpiece of a fight
@@LawrenceDennis-gh2ck In Terms of Dragons My Favorite is Probably Placiduax, I Love Midir But His Health Bar is Inflated as Hell. I Agree With Bayle Cinematically For The Most Part, Too Bad FromSoftware Had To Cut Corners So We Didn't Get a Cutscene For Him, But Hey at Least We Got Based Igon Hurling Insults at Him.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander igon was cool but i couldn’t hear shi the entire fight with him screaming CURSEEE YOU BAYLLLLEEEE!!!
Real quick Messmer grab is not a hit kill move. It does deal a lot of damage but honestly I lived through it more times than I died. He honestly is a pretty fair boss... comapared to bosses like new Radahn and Malenia at least.
I would move Messmer, Bayle and Gaius up and move Jori and new Radahn to Z tier, hate those fights. Jori and Lamenter are on the same level of lameness to me
Malania is Very Fair, She's a Very Old-School Style Souls Boss, Relying on a Mix of Memorization and Reflexes, Though I Completely Agree That DLC Radahn is Pretty Unfair Due To The Fight Being Reliant on AI Patterns. As For Messmer; Depends on Your Fragment Count. He Was 1-Tapping Me and Several Other UA-camrs/Streamers I Saw. Honestly They Should Just Completely Rework The DLC and Get Rid of The Fragments, It'd Make The Game More Consistent. Also To Be Fair, I Mostly Ranked Jori on The Fact That He's The Only Boss in Both The Main Game and The DLC To Have a Proper Arena.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander I assume messmer only one shot you because you had medium armour and no defensive talismans.
@@Onefishygal I Had The Armor From Blackgaol Knight, in Fact My Defenses in General Are Fairly High. The Issue is More About Scaling; Messmer is Easily The Hardest Boss in The DLC, But He's Only The 4th To Last Boss, Yet Romina is 3rd To Last and Has a Gatekeeping Role and is Complete Joke.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander I think the issue might be that messmer is a completely different boss with and without summons then because for me rellana bayle radahn and gaius were all easily harder than messmer and radahn is by far the hardest boss and the only boss in the dlc on malenia's level.
@@Onefishygal what was your vigor stat? because i was using the solitude set my whole dlc run but i didnt die to his grab very often
A bit baffled by the Radahn bit, he pretty much always does the spinarooni move at the start, and it's actually perfect, since it's the most punishable window he has. Who cares about buffs, pop them before gate, dodge the spin, counter. If he does the slow walk, I usually just stick around until he does the spin a few seconds after anyway.
His 1-2-crosschop is probably the biggest bullshit in the game tho. In some of its variants, if one hit connects, the whole combo does too. And the first swing has a tell that's around an average persons reaction time. And EVEN if you dodge the first one, if your position isn't 100% perfect, you don't have the time to dodge the rest anyway. This killed SO many runs, and felt simply as "welp, Miyazaki said it's time to do it again for no reason whatsoever".
If Fromsoftware Felt That Both Golden Hippo and Gaius Were Broken To The Point That They Nerfed Them So That They Won't Rush You Right Out The Gate, Then Radahn Should Be Considered Broken Too. As For Him Having Death Combos, That's To Be Expected, Considering That Other DLC Final Bosses (Such as Gael, Friede and Kos) All Have Death Combos Too. If You Disagree With The Design Philosophy That's Fine, But it is Something That Most DLC Final Bosses Have and Should Be Expected.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander bro why are you capitalizing every word like that
@@duckchen2676 Because Reasons.
CURSE YOU BAYLE!!!
Based Igon Comes into The Arena Shouting Like He's in WWE.
virgin bayle vs chad igon.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander He kind of does, now that you say it.
@@SkittyonWailord lol
@@user-tg3tw1bo8o Now if Only I Could Place Igon on The Tier List, Bro Would Go Straight Into S.
Miquella S Tier!!!!!
If Only Miquella Was Actually a Boss After All The Hype They Built Up, Instead All We Got Was Him Attaching Himself To Radahn.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander oh no bro I’m a Miquella simp. He’s S tier. Idc if if we r fighting him attached to Radahn, Miquella is S tier. I do hate that we don’t get an option of the age of compassion at the end. It’s quite a depressing ending in the sense.
@@mr.jcreations I'm Gonna Be Honest, The Ending Felt Very Rushed; as if They Ran Out of Time/Resources at The End.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander I need an age of compassion ending
@@mr.jcreations I'm Surprised They Didn't, Since This is The One and Only DLC For The Game as Far as We Know. Sucks To End The Game on Somber Note.
I honestly agree with your tier list. This was a great dlc. But there were only a few memorable fights. And why didn't all the main bosses have a cutscene. Feels like a cop out. I miss the bosses having entrances. Like why'd the dancing lion have an intro and Bayle didn't?!?! Hello
I Think The Main Reason They Had To Cut a Lot of Corners Was Because of The Nature of Open-Word Games, Open-World Games Demand a Bigger Overall Scope and as Such, The Devs Had To Cut Corners. Although The Quality of The Bosses Shouldn't Have Been The Thing They Sacrificed.
just parry through the first phase and then when he does the massive aoe in the second phase you can just run out of it if you start running instantly and then you can summon mimic tear easily, radahn is the most fun and satisfying boss fight in the entire dlc. Most of his attacks are so very easy to parry, there is so much of a wind up.
Like I Said in The Tier List, Most of His Moveset is Fantastic and Would Normally Land Him in Either A or S, However I (Along With Most Souls Players) Am Terrible at Parrying, Which is Way I Strongly Dislike That Opening Move.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander Most soul players are fine at parrying, also you cant parry the opening move. You just dodge, It is so easy to dodge as well as you can see it coming from literally a mile away.
@@swinton8436 I Can Dodge The Attack just Fine, The Problem is The Moment You Attempt a Summon During His Rush Intro; You Auto-Lose The Fight. I Really Just Wish They'd Kill His Out-The-Gate-Aggression Like They Did With Gaius and Golden Hippo, Because Other Than That He's a Great Fight, Either A or S Tier.
jori is F tier no question dear got summon fights with bosses that constantly run away from you are worse than reskins and repeats.
He Only Really Got as High as He Did Because He's Only Boss in The Game That Actually Uses His Arena Properly, Also Running Away is Unfortunately a Very Common Trait For Elden Ring Bosses.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander they usually don't run away and spam projectiles tho, I have absolutely no respect for any boss that relies on summons are shooting you from range I think having summons at all takes it down to at most a C tier and spamming range projectiles takes it down to an F
@@Onefishygal I Don't Think He's That Great, I Just Think That It's Nice To Finally Have a Boss in Elden Ring Where The Arena Actually Matters. Compared To Previous Souls Games, Elden Ring's Arenas Are Very Stale and Don't Really Interact With The Fight in Any Meaningful Way (Blocking Projectiles, Boss Mind Games, Cover For Healing, etc.). It's Because of The Arena That You Can Get Cover From The Projectiles. As For The Summons; Yes They're Annoying, and Let's Be Honest The Only Good Summoner Boss is Renala, Even Then She's Only A/B Tier Due To Being Too Easy.
@@XAPPLAYS--Xander honestly I would put renalla in C tier and that's mainly for the fight's visuals. I despise summon bosses that run away and spam projectiles they just feel unfun for me to fight.
@@Onefishygal She Doesn't Really Run Away, She Just Kind of Stands in The Middle of The Arena and Forces You To Run Away (Which Can Be Equally Annoying). The Only Main Game Bosses I'd Throw into C or F Tier Are Phantom Godffrey (His AI is a Disaster and Very Easy To Manipulate), The Foreskin Duo (For Obvious Reasons) and Maliketh (Artificially Lowering Stats, Pointless Arena and The Camera Has a Bad Tendency To Break Due To His Size and Speed), The Rest of The Main Game Bosses, Other Than All The Copypasters, Are Actually Pretty Great and Would Get Minimum B Tier at Worst.
I agree with everything except dancing lion and Jori. those 2 takes I cannot see but everything else is facts.
Jori's Only Really as High as He is Because He Does Something No Other Boss in Elden Ring Does and as For Dancing Lion, Everybody Likes Different Bosses, So It's Ok We Don't Agree.