I have the turbo vado 3.0 IGH and it's fucking dope. It has almost all of the same hardware as this bike just with the different geometry. The 50nM motor and 500 wH battery is more than enough for my 16mile round trip daily commute with a fair amount of hills. I charge it every 3 days.
I gotta give you props for staying patient with the folks who show up in every video to complain about the price. Yes- direct delivery bikes cost less. But look at RadPowerBikes- they're one of the best regarded DTC bikes but they have RadCity 5 controllers self destructing at an alarming rate and RadWagon tires exploding. If this bike is a toy, or a project, or not carrying your kids- buy a DTC or build your own bike and have a blast! If you want to get somewhere reliability and have a service network to help you when things go wrong- you're going to pay more. Side note; the average new car is $48k, that buys over 12 of these bikes.
Good points Elliot. I do try to be neutral and loving in how I interact with people here. The point of the videos is to answer questions, and I don't mind if someone has doubts or corrections. People communicate differently, and I can handle that in a positive way, because I love people :D
Just bought the 5.0 IGH because of this video. Thank you! I’m gonna start biking to work instead of taking my car. Figure it’ll keep the miles down on my SUV and help me stay in shape. Gotta ride a lot though lol it was $6300 after tax.
i have this exact model and i love it! lots of hills here and it handles them like a champ, even with a big load. i do wish they didn’t limit the motor power, but it does help get the most out of the smaller battery. i’ve put over 1700km onto it over the past few months of owning it and it’s held up great!
also, i was able to fit a phone holder on the left hand side near the buttons. the problem wasn’t fitting it on there, it was getting one that actually would tighten and stay!
I own a 2020 turbo vado 3.0 . I do not know the long term reliability of brose motors but i can tell you one thing , these motors are benchmark in smoothness , quiteness , and I just love the feel of the motor when I am peddling my bicycle.
Thank you so much for all you do. After going through so many reviews/options, I bought this bike for my wife. Thank you and I’ll let you know what she thinks.
We just bought the turbo vado igh 3.0 and a quick note on delivery from specialized, make sure that they adjust the enviolo gear to overdrive. I was so happy I did a test drive before leaving the shop when I realized I needed to pedal over 120rpm to get to 30km/h it didn’t make sense. I told them about the adjustment from enviolo and fare enough it fixed the high rpm problem and sealed the deal for me! Now we can get to 32km/h at around 80rpm and it’s alot more reasonable
I love my Turbo Como 3.0 IGH with the Gates belt drive. I’m 72 years old and the Class 1 bike is plenty powerful for me. The belt drive is so awesome and this bike is easy to shift with the Enviola hub.
The handlebars are awesome and the battery charging port is just fine where it is. The low position makes it easy to push the lever to pop the battery out. It would be horrible up higher. I love this Class 1 ebike. It can go on all trails. Class III is sometimes restricted to street riding.
Hi Angelos! Thank you so much, it's nice to read your positive comment. I'll continue seeking out Specialized, and in the meantime you can see other models I've covered here: electricbikereview.com/brand/specialized/
I’m test riding one today. I have the previous version and I’ve put 14,000 miles on it. However I’ve always wanted the same bike in a belt drive so I’m excited to give it a try. Thanks for your review. ❤
You should ask money from Specialized because I was looking for a MTB like commuter bike and after this review I ordered a Como IGH. I went for the 4.0 version though.
Love my Como !! I have the regular (not IGH) and really, really enjoy it. The step thru was required due to hip issues, and I have no problems getting on/off. The bike is so solid - everything is really well built. The bike is also very quiet - super tires. Gear changes are quick and smooth, and the brakes are great. Having the electric assist, and the step-thru frame, has allowed me to bike again (age 67 with multiple health issues) This bike is perfect for me and while it may not be the model for you, Specialized bikes are such high quality, find a model that works for you. Battery holds its charge really well too. (Due to crappy weather, I didn't ride for 2 months. When I got back on, the battery was still at 71% . It was 79%)The app is good and has always worked. I got a short cable so I can charge my phone while I ride. (There are phone holders that strap on, as opposed to clamping, so the odd shape of the bars isn't a deal breaker.) Being able to set your own power levels is great too - set it very conservatively when I first got it but have now adjusted since I'm a more adept rider now. Honestly, there is nothing I don't like on this bike. Way to go, Specialized!!
Re. Brose response at 50Nm. As I have tested bikes deciding on what I am going to get, I have found I really liked Brose for responsiveness and overall smoothness/seemlessness of use. The BULLS La Cuba I tested was a beauty to take up the hills in North Vancouver (non-British Columbians - North Van is basically a series of huge hills leading into mountains) I wish it were on one of the bikes I was eyeballing.
North Van shoutout! Love it over there... Do you go to the Shipyards and eat at those awesome restaurants and stands inside that big hall. Wonderful place to explore and hang out with friends and family :)
A good phone mount for the Specialized handlebars is the Peak Design universal mount. It works so well and the angle can be adjusted while keeping the phone fully stable. Recently bought the SL Como at a substantial discount and I’m surprised how many wires are sticking out on this model - I love that my bike e-bike capabilities are not super obvious. However, if I was facing a steep hill I’ll take the IGH over the SL for the torque.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE GREAT CONTENT YOU HAVE PRODUCED, IT'S BEEN A GREAT HELP... I'm a large man well into my 50's and I want a bike with little to no maintenance and power to deal with the hills where I live in London, plus it must have IGH technology. I am currently looking at the Turbo vado 5.0 IGH "which I would love you to review at some point in the future" However, I also wanted to no if there is any other alternatives I should be considering too... Thanks again and keep up the good work. Marcus from London UK.
Hi Marcus! I think the best alternative, that would be available in London, is the Gazelle Ultimate C380 model. Someone else mentioned it here, I've reviewed it a while back: electricbikereview.com/gazelle/ultimate-c8-hmb/ I'd love to hear what you think, comparing the two!
I am a long term Specialized fan. But at this price (and from other brands) I would still prefer a DOST bike...and the belt drive version is coming very soon. The only reason I have held off is that it is only available direct from Canada...no US support system. If I had unlimited funds, Specialized E-bike would definitely be on the table.
I think DOST launched the CVT version, maybe they are just out of stock temporarily? Their Class 3, throttle, and dual battery setup are very unique in the ebike world. I feel like this Como is more refined, but also less "open source" for the handlebar adjustment or battery repacking.
Currently my main bike I'd love to own from them and can "sort of" afford, is the Vado 5.0 IGH, it fits my needs very well, as my area is hilly, comes with many features to help out and I'm sure my family will like the idea of the garmin radar. Though as usual with everything, I bounce around a lot. Might be going to a somewhat near bike store, either this Wednesday (tomorrow) or Saturday. Going to try an test ride a few bikes, hopefully they will also offer fitting.
Price of Como 3.0 IGH is now [July 2023] $1,200 lower than bike in this test ! Price is $2,549 now instead of $3,749 !!! What inflation-fighting magic does Specialized have ?
I just test-rode a Como 5.0 at our local bike shop. It was awesome, though beyond my price range (it is what they had built up for test rides). The motor was absolutely silent, no whining sound at all like the one you rode in this video. It had the standard rear sprocket and chain drive instead of the belt drive. Why the difference in motor noise? Is the difference due to the more powerful motor of the 5.0 or is it the difference between the belt drive and standard drive? I might be interested in ordering one in the future, perhaps a 4.0 if I can come up with the money. The belt drive sounds a lot more attractive to me, if it is quiet. Thanks, your reviews are great!
Thanks for another great informative video. The Speciaized seems similar to the Gazelle Ultimate C380 I've been riding all summer. Your thoughts on side-by-side? I'm loving my Gazelle.... It did cost about $400 more
Hi Kip! Yeah, I like that ebike a lot. It's tough to beat the reliability of Bosch drive systems, and it has the CVT, Gates Belt, lights, rack, and fenders. Even the suspension fork, frame lock, and adjustable stem/handlebar are great. The headlight and battery charge port position are great on the Gazelle Ultimate C380 and I feel like it's a better comparison to the Specialized Turbo Vado, because it's a bit more active geometry. I see these groups of bikes as being "some of the best" and then it may come down to dealer proximity, color and style preference, and if you prefer the reliability of Bosch or smooth Brose with the Specialized app. If your Gazelle came with the Purion display, you might not be able to use the Bosch apps without upgrading to a Kiox or Nyon.
@@ElectricBikeReview Thank You for taking the time to respond. I think I will look into the Kiox or Nyon display upgrade. Wonder if it's a DYI for a person with moderate mechanical skills?
Differently strokes for different folks. I have been riding biked for more than 70 years and I find the handlebars very comfortable for the intended use of this bike.
Thanks for posting this. I liked the look of it and the the app sounds great but I am a fuss pot when it comes to handle bar setup so its fixed positioning is a show stopper. Other than that it looked good but you saved me digging deeper.
The como range have “ ground force geometry “ that is a nod to “ flat foot technology “ it’s mentioned in some of their promotional videos but no one seems to go into any detail about it. We’re you aware of it. I have the 4.0 on order looking forward to its arrival. Thanks.
Interesting! I didn't catch that, thanks for bringing it up Ulster. Perhaps "Ground Control Geometry" means the bottom bracket is farther forward, due to a steeper seat tube angle. Or maybe, the bottom bracket is just lower to the ground than if they used seat stays that were parallel to the ground. I can tell the frame is totally custom. What do you know about it? I did some Googling but didn't find an obvious answer.
@@ElectricBikeReview . I only know they use this term in some promotional material and one other reviewer mentioned it but didn’t elaborate. My dealer didn’t know about it and neither did Specialized U.K. 😀. My dealer assumes it has a more relaxed geometry with angle of the seat tube and now you have mentioned the bottom bracket. I’m hoping it is present in some form as I like the Electra “ flat foot concept “.
Hey there, i was wondering. Do you have a favorite commuter bike this year?? We would really like a suggestion other than Specialized to compare to. We are thinking of getting either the Specialized vado 3 IGH or the 4. There doesn't seem to be much difference other than the gear box vs derailleur. And the suspension seat. Would you say the seat post is worth it? Thanks for everything you do.
It is great finally seeing e-bikes with more up to date components and practical geometry. That front fender is amazing. It would be a little tough to get a proper fit with the rigid bars. Unfortunately, there just isn't any excuse for these straight gauge frames and those square tubes in the rear triangle. I will never understand why they include a very low end, heavy, energy robbing, suspension fork designed for off road control. Set soft enough to absorb pavement irregularities the darn thing would dip dangerously in a panic stop.
Hi Mark! Yeah, at least the suspension fork has lockout if you'd like to improve efficiency and stiffness. You do have the added weight of a spring suspension fork... but it's not too bad, it has preload adjust too, so less dive based on body weight :)
Good job!!! A question and a comment.. I have the chance to ride a Turbo Vado 4.0 Ltd 2020( the yellow one). Really love it. My question… When i put it on my Thule bike rack, bebind my car, would it be better to take out the battery? If so, with what i should cover the connector? My comment… When i charge my battery, i would like to stop automaticaly the recharge at a preset %. Thanks…
I have one issue with the bike. The pedals are too low to the ground when making a turn. You hit the ground very fast. Or the bottom bracket is placed too low.
Hey, I am interested in Trek FX+ 2023 and waiting for your review to come. Any future plan for the same? Thank you in advance. Regards, Keyur (Vancouver, Canada)
I have a bit of a mixed perception on the stepthroughs, I love the ease of getting on it, especially since it means you can in theory carry more stuff and not worry about spills so much hehe But I still get worried I'd break or flex/bend a frame lol but I'm guessing these issues are mostly handled as much as they currently can. Then also there is supply, it is so much harder right now to find them in stock hehe at least near me or on their store. )
This seems like a really good commuter bike. Aside from some of the proprietary crap. You could probably just switch out the stem and handlebars for normal ones.
Oh ok at least they can be swapped out, that's cool, i saw a bike last week with a non adjustable proprietary stem that also had the bikes proprietary display built into the stem so at least this is better than that!
Yeah, It seems like this is more customizable than something like a Stromer... but you'd still have the issue of mounting the specialized TDC display panel to the bar. I think it's a standard twist connection, like Garmin and others use.
I'm shopping for a e-bike and my two favorites are Trek Allant+ 7 and the Specialized Turbo Vado 3.0. In your opinion, which one is the best option for commuting?
As you already mentioned the problem with this "custom design handle"......do you have tried to put a smartphone on this bar? Because I wouldnt buy this bike if it is not possible to mount a smartphone. Thank You.
Yeah, I really liked this one. Moustache is awesome, but it looks like the Lundi 27.1 might not have a suspension fork? I like Bosch stuff, but for a cruiser, this is one of my favorites right now! The fenders are the best I've seen, I like the Specialized brand and style, the lights and rack and battery and smooth motor... I'd choose this one, but be VERY happy with the Lundi 27.1 as well :D
I have been interested in seeing a review on the Specialized bike. Do you know if the EG Geneva is still available? I would like an update. I like it because it can go over 20, has a mid drive motor and a throttle.
Cool! I haven't seen EG bikes at my local shops recently, and my old friend Sam from the Electric Bicycle Center in Fullerton retired a year or two ago... I appreciate your request and will try to cover them again someday, and specifically the Geneva :)
I like a lot of things about this bike but that stem is an absolute deal breaker for me, i need the ability to adjust my riding position for maximum comfort! This is the 3rd bike i have seen in recent weeks with a non adjustable proprietary stem, i hope this does not become a thing,
Looks great but the big missing feature is a dedicated throttle. I've come to rely on the throttle to jump on light changes. It makes swimming with traffic much easier. For the money I'd think they'd offer it, but Specialized seems to have taken a moral stance against them.
Yes. I have a como 3.0 IGH. I remove the battery from the bike during the winter and bring it inside my house. I charge it during that time about once a month. There is a key that unlocks the latch that allows you to remove the battery.
There's a range of ebikes at different prices. Some offer better warranties or more customer service (like a chain of shops that help assemble, fit, and repair). The price must be acceptable if Specialized is still in business... Things cost more today because there are more dollars in the system. I see high prices as more of a government question inflation question than an industry or brand one. But yeah, some products and services are prohibitively expensive because it satisfies an artistic and exclusivity value for people... like Bugatti
Hi Rick! I'm not sure where Specialized builds their frames. Some of the parts could be from different countries (like the brakes, enviolo, suspension fork). I suspect that the motor is German made, I believe that's where Brose is from.
I feel you, and I actually love the SL! It works great but offers lower motor wattage and peak torque. Given the lighter weight design, the motor performs well as a more "active" ride :D
I believe Specialized has addressed concerns of previous models of the Como with the new models. Adding the suspension fork is a big improvement. I for one love the new proprietary handlebars. As for the Como SL, I wonder how well it sold. speaking for myself, why would I want half the battery - half the power for $4000. Also as far as being lighter, the Como SL is only a couple lbs. lighter than the previous Como 4.0 but with much less battery - power. JMHO I own 3 Como e bikes - the new 2022 Como 5.0, a 2021 Como 5.0 and a 2020 Como 4.0. The new 2022 Como is a little heavier probably because of the suspension fork but is more powerful/ more responsive in my experience. The new 2022 Como is much improved IMO
Noise present when pedaling… went to the shop many times for a fix. The squeaking noise is coming from the motor, but the Specialized rep decided it was the belt itself and denied any responsability.
@@doggyman1202 It's Not a Statement, that the're Going Out of Business, it Was a Comment, that They'll 'Go Out of Business, Charging- 3000 -4000 -5000 Thousand Dollars Per Unit ..
It's not even a comparison. I'm building a custom ebike, specialized chisel mtb with bbshd and Samsung battery pack, all in 3500 out the door. Specialized doesn't even make an ebike that can match the specs and reliability of a custom build like this. If they did in today's market it would be 8-10k and they don't sell much in that range. And anyone can install the motor and battery doesn't take a gear head. I'll have 60mile range with a bit of peddling and above 30miles with all motor no peddle, top speed about 35-8mph on flats all motor no peddle, will climb any hill no peddle. The pre-made ebike market is insanely overpriced, bike shops will not build you a custom ebike like the one I'm building because they want you to grossly overpay for a pre made ebike. Once people find out how much they are overpaying cheap bikes with a motor and battery installed they pre-made ebike market will crash, enjoy the bubble while it lasts. And the mission control app is a joke, the bbshd allows you full optimization of the speed levels, you can customize the volts per peddle (9 levels) assist level to match your riding style.
It's nice to have so many choices. For some people it might just be more convenient to buy a purpose built ebike with a good warranty and clean integration. There's a range of prices for these products, and the service that goes along, but the kits are fun alternatives. It's all good.
Do you ever review cheap $1500 bikes? I mean no way I'm riding something that cost almost 4 grand around. I don't understand how people are buying these things and then riding them in the rain and locking them up around town. I simply can't believe it and don't buy the hype that these things are commuter replacements. They are simply entertainment for rich white people leisure joy rides. There is no hope for bike shops especially since they only want to work on the bikes they sell. I think the box store chinese bikes and DIY kits are going to finally finish them off.
@@ElectricBikeReview that's great! Just want to say I must have watched that video with Sam from Myron's bike shop title professional advice on ebikes over a dozen times lol
@@hawsrulebegin7768 true. At the time my mind frame was still thinking about the fact that New York City hipsters benefit mote from the lawthere more than Asian and Spanish working-class guys driving around on mopeds and scooters which are more restricted. But you're right I shouldn't generalize like that.
I have the turbo vado 3.0 IGH and it's fucking dope. It has almost all of the same hardware as this bike just with the different geometry. The 50nM motor and 500 wH battery is more than enough for my 16mile round trip daily commute with a fair amount of hills. I charge it every 3 days.
Nice!!!
Have you had any problems or disliked the IGH at all? I really like the Vado also.
I gotta give you props for staying patient with the folks who show up in every video to complain about the price. Yes- direct delivery bikes cost less. But look at RadPowerBikes- they're one of the best regarded DTC bikes but they have RadCity 5 controllers self destructing at an alarming rate and RadWagon tires exploding. If this bike is a toy, or a project, or not carrying your kids- buy a DTC or build your own bike and have a blast! If you want to get somewhere reliability and have a service network to help you when things go wrong- you're going to pay more. Side note; the average new car is $48k, that buys over 12 of these bikes.
Good points Elliot. I do try to be neutral and loving in how I interact with people here. The point of the videos is to answer questions, and I don't mind if someone has doubts or corrections. People communicate differently, and I can handle that in a positive way, because I love people :D
The average car costs more in 1 year than this bike.
I ditched the car completely and my Vado SL cost me 30€ in a year.
Just bought the 5.0 IGH because of this video. Thank you! I’m gonna start biking to work instead of taking my car. Figure it’ll keep the miles down on my SUV and help me stay in shape. Gotta ride a lot though lol it was $6300 after tax.
i have this exact model and i love it! lots of hills here and it handles them like a champ, even with a big load. i do wish they didn’t limit the motor power, but it does help get the most out of the smaller battery. i’ve put over 1700km onto it over the past few months of owning it and it’s held up great!
also, i was able to fit a phone holder on the left hand side near the buttons. the problem wasn’t fitting it on there, it was getting one that actually would tighten and stay!
Hi @@octagonPerfectionist , which phone holder did you find that would tighten and stay?? :)
I'm getting this bike for my wife, it's on sale for 2499€ now. Thanks for the great review, this convinced me.
I own a 2020 turbo vado 3.0 . I do not know the long term reliability of brose motors but i can tell you one thing , these motors are benchmark in smoothness , quiteness , and I just love the feel of the motor when I am peddling my bicycle.
Thank you so much for all you do. After going through so many reviews/options, I bought this bike for my wife. Thank you and I’ll let you know what she thinks.
We just bought the turbo vado igh 3.0 and a quick note on delivery from specialized, make sure that they adjust the enviolo gear to overdrive. I was so happy I did a test drive before leaving the shop when I realized I needed to pedal over 120rpm to get to 30km/h it didn’t make sense. I told them about the adjustment from enviolo and fare enough it fixed the high rpm problem and sealed the deal for me! Now we can get to 32km/h at around 80rpm and it’s alot more reasonable
I love my Turbo Como 3.0 IGH with the Gates belt drive. I’m 72 years old and the Class 1 bike is plenty powerful for me. The belt drive is so awesome and this bike is easy to shift with the Enviola hub.
The handlebars are awesome and the battery charging port is just fine where it is. The low position makes it easy to push the lever to pop the battery out. It would be horrible up higher. I love this Class 1 ebike. It can go on all trails. Class III is sometimes restricted to street riding.
Speed? Range?
Thank you for this review.. great work! Would like to see more Specialized bike reviews!
Hi Angelos! Thank you so much, it's nice to read your positive comment. I'll continue seeking out Specialized, and in the meantime you can see other models I've covered here: electricbikereview.com/brand/specialized/
I’m test riding one today. I have the previous version and I’ve put 14,000 miles on it. However I’ve always wanted the same bike in a belt drive so I’m excited to give it a try. Thanks for your review. ❤
@Bike Goddess, what did you think of the belt drive?
@@dotjohnson231 I love the belt drive! It stays clean even in the muck and more of riding in the rain. It’s a fantastic bike!
You should ask money from
Specialized because I was looking for a MTB like commuter bike and after this review I ordered a Como IGH. I went for the 4.0 version though.
Truly awesome review as always. Thank you so much for helping all of us!
Love my Como !!
I have the regular (not IGH) and really, really enjoy it. The step thru was required due to hip issues, and I have no problems getting on/off. The bike is so solid - everything is really well built. The bike is also very quiet - super tires. Gear changes are quick and smooth, and the brakes are great. Having the electric assist, and the step-thru frame, has allowed me to bike again (age 67 with multiple health issues)
This bike is perfect for me and while it may not be the model for you, Specialized bikes are such high quality, find a model that works for you.
Battery holds its charge really well too. (Due to crappy weather, I didn't ride for 2 months. When I got back on, the battery was still at 71% . It was 79%)The app is good and has always worked. I got a short cable so I can charge my phone while I ride. (There are phone holders that strap on, as opposed to clamping, so the odd shape of the bars isn't a deal breaker.)
Being able to set your own power levels is great too - set it very conservatively when I first got it but have now adjusted since I'm a more adept rider now.
Honestly, there is nothing I don't like on this bike. Way to go, Specialized!!
Very nice full review btw :) I don't think I ever saw anyone even slightly discuss the charger :) just as one thing to note :)
Re. Brose response at 50Nm. As I have tested bikes deciding on what I am going to get, I have found I really liked Brose for responsiveness and overall smoothness/seemlessness of use. The BULLS La Cuba I tested was a beauty to take up the hills in North Vancouver (non-British Columbians - North Van is basically a series of huge hills leading into mountains) I wish it were on one of the bikes I was eyeballing.
North Van shoutout! Love it over there... Do you go to the Shipyards and eat at those awesome restaurants and stands inside that big hall. Wonderful place to explore and hang out with friends and family :)
A good phone mount for the Specialized handlebars is the Peak Design universal mount. It works so well and the angle can be adjusted while keeping the phone fully stable. Recently bought the SL Como at a substantial discount and I’m surprised how many wires are sticking out on this model - I love that my bike e-bike capabilities are not super obvious. However, if I was facing a steep hill I’ll take the IGH over the SL for the torque.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE GREAT CONTENT YOU HAVE PRODUCED, IT'S BEEN A GREAT HELP... I'm a large man well into my 50's and I want a bike with little to no maintenance and power to deal with the hills where I live in London, plus it must have IGH technology. I am currently looking at the Turbo vado 5.0 IGH "which I would love you to review at some point in the future" However, I also wanted to no if there is any other alternatives I should be considering too...
Thanks again and keep up the good work.
Marcus from London UK.
Hi Marcus! I think the best alternative, that would be available in London, is the Gazelle Ultimate C380 model. Someone else mentioned it here, I've reviewed it a while back: electricbikereview.com/gazelle/ultimate-c8-hmb/ I'd love to hear what you think, comparing the two!
I am a long term Specialized fan. But at this price (and from other brands) I would still prefer a DOST bike...and the belt drive version is coming very soon. The only reason I have held off is that it is only available direct from Canada...no US support system. If I had unlimited funds, Specialized E-bike would definitely be on the table.
I think DOST launched the CVT version, maybe they are just out of stock temporarily? Their Class 3, throttle, and dual battery setup are very unique in the ebike world. I feel like this Como is more refined, but also less "open source" for the handlebar adjustment or battery repacking.
such an awesome thorough review, thank you!
Currently my main bike I'd love to own from them and can "sort of" afford, is the Vado 5.0 IGH, it fits my needs very well, as my area is hilly, comes with many features to help out and I'm sure my family will like the idea of the garmin radar. Though as usual with everything, I bounce around a lot. Might be going to a somewhat near bike store, either this Wednesday (tomorrow) or Saturday. Going to try an test ride a few bikes, hopefully they will also offer fitting.
Did you end up getting it?
Price of Como 3.0 IGH is now [July 2023] $1,200 lower than bike in this test ! Price is $2,549 now instead of $3,749 !!! What inflation-fighting magic does Specialized have ?
I just test-rode a Como 5.0 at our local bike shop. It was awesome, though beyond my price range (it is what they had built up for test rides). The motor was absolutely silent, no whining sound at all like the one you rode in this video. It had the standard rear sprocket and chain drive instead of the belt drive. Why the difference in motor noise? Is the difference due to the more powerful motor of the 5.0 or is it the difference between the belt drive and standard drive? I might be interested in ordering one in the future, perhaps a 4.0 if I can come up with the money. The belt drive sounds a lot more attractive to me, if it is quiet. Thanks, your reviews are great!
Excellent review
Great review. Very detailed and excellent camera work
Why does the headline say $2.8K???? It's $3,750
I made a mistake, all fixed now! Thanks for the heads up Steve!
Thanks for another great informative video. The Speciaized seems similar to the Gazelle Ultimate C380 I've been riding all summer. Your thoughts on side-by-side? I'm loving my Gazelle.... It did cost about $400 more
Hi Kip! Yeah, I like that ebike a lot. It's tough to beat the reliability of Bosch drive systems, and it has the CVT, Gates Belt, lights, rack, and fenders. Even the suspension fork, frame lock, and adjustable stem/handlebar are great. The headlight and battery charge port position are great on the Gazelle Ultimate C380 and I feel like it's a better comparison to the Specialized Turbo Vado, because it's a bit more active geometry. I see these groups of bikes as being "some of the best" and then it may come down to dealer proximity, color and style preference, and if you prefer the reliability of Bosch or smooth Brose with the Specialized app. If your Gazelle came with the Purion display, you might not be able to use the Bosch apps without upgrading to a Kiox or Nyon.
@@ElectricBikeReview Thank You for taking the time to respond. I think I will look into the Kiox or Nyon display upgrade. Wonder if it's a DYI for a person with moderate mechanical skills?
Thanks for the comprehensive review. Really enjoyed your video 👍
Good review! The bike is perfect except for the handlebars. I hate them. Do you think they will ever change them?
Differently strokes for different folks. I have been riding biked for more than 70 years and I find the handlebars very comfortable for the intended use of this bike.
@@ricksre1 the shape prevents attaching my phone holder
Thanks for posting this. I liked the look of it and the the app sounds great but I am a fuss pot when it comes to handle bar setup so its fixed positioning is a show stopper. Other than that it looked good but you saved me digging deeper.
Very very thorough. Excellent review
The como range have “ ground force geometry “ that is a nod to “ flat foot technology “ it’s mentioned in some of their promotional videos but no one seems to go into any detail about it. We’re you aware of it. I have the 4.0 on order looking forward to its arrival. Thanks.
Interesting! I didn't catch that, thanks for bringing it up Ulster. Perhaps "Ground Control Geometry" means the bottom bracket is farther forward, due to a steeper seat tube angle. Or maybe, the bottom bracket is just lower to the ground than if they used seat stays that were parallel to the ground. I can tell the frame is totally custom. What do you know about it? I did some Googling but didn't find an obvious answer.
@@ElectricBikeReview . I only know they use this term in some promotional material and one other reviewer mentioned it but didn’t elaborate. My dealer didn’t know about it and neither did Specialized U.K. 😀. My dealer assumes it has a more relaxed geometry with angle of the seat tube and now you have mentioned the bottom bracket. I’m hoping it is present in some form as I like the Electra “ flat foot concept “.
Hey there, i was wondering. Do you have a favorite commuter bike this year?? We would really like a suggestion other than Specialized to compare to.
We are thinking of getting either the Specialized vado 3 IGH or the 4. There doesn't seem to be much difference other than the gear box vs derailleur. And the suspension seat. Would you say the seat post is worth it?
Thanks for everything you do.
It is great finally seeing e-bikes with more up to date components and practical geometry. That front fender is amazing. It would be a little tough to get a proper fit with the rigid bars. Unfortunately, there just isn't any excuse for these straight gauge frames and those square tubes in the rear triangle. I will never understand why they include a very low end, heavy, energy robbing, suspension fork designed for off road control. Set soft enough to absorb pavement irregularities the darn thing would dip dangerously in a panic stop.
Hi Mark! Yeah, at least the suspension fork has lockout if you'd like to improve efficiency and stiffness. You do have the added weight of a spring suspension fork... but it's not too bad, it has preload adjust too, so less dive based on body weight :)
Good job!!!
A question and a comment..
I have the chance to ride a Turbo Vado 4.0 Ltd 2020( the yellow one).
Really love it.
My question…
When i put it on my Thule bike rack, bebind my car, would it be better to take out the battery? If so, with what i should cover the connector?
My comment…
When i charge my battery, i would like to stop automaticaly the recharge at a preset %.
Thanks…
I have one issue with the bike. The pedals are too low to the ground when making a turn. You hit the ground very fast. Or the bottom bracket is placed too low.
I discovered this as well a few weeks ago .. I adjust my pedals for fast turns .
Love my 5.0 IGH
Hey, I am interested in Trek FX+ 2023 and waiting for your review to come. Any future plan for the same? Thank you in advance. Regards, Keyur (Vancouver, Canada)
I have a bit of a mixed perception on the stepthroughs, I love the ease of getting on it, especially since it means you can in theory carry more stuff and not worry about spills so much hehe But I still get worried I'd break or flex/bend a frame lol but I'm guessing these issues are mostly handled as much as they currently can. Then also there is supply, it is so much harder right now to find them in stock hehe at least near me or on their store. )
How tall are you? And the size of the bike? Thanks!
This seems like a really good commuter bike. Aside from some of the proprietary crap. You could probably just switch out the stem and handlebars for normal ones.
Oh ok at least they can be swapped out, that's cool, i saw a bike last week with a non adjustable proprietary stem that also had the bikes proprietary display built into the stem so at least this is better than that!
Yeah, It seems like this is more customizable than something like a Stromer... but you'd still have the issue of mounting the specialized TDC display panel to the bar. I think it's a standard twist connection, like Garmin and others use.
Thx 4 the thorough review..lots of condensed info .
Fixed handle bars ,stem ,,tried very bad idea….tried 5.0 automatic beautiful…..but stem,bars…great job😊
Great review, thx!
Looking for iPhone holder best to fit como upright handle bars
I'm shopping for a e-bike and my two favorites are Trek Allant+ 7 and the Specialized Turbo Vado 3.0. In your opinion, which one is the best option for commuting?
As you already mentioned the problem with this "custom design handle"......do you have tried to put a smartphone on this bar? Because I wouldnt buy this bike if it is not possible to mount a smartphone. Thank You.
If I'm fairly fit, and want to ride for a few hours in the neighborhood which is very hilly (not mountainous), would this be a good bike?
Court you accidentally put $2.8k in the title instead of $3.8k
Oops!! Thanks for the quick help, I'll update ASAP! Maybe it was wishful thinking ;)
How would you compare it to the Moustache Lundi 27.1 (which this really reminds me of)?
Yeah, I really liked this one. Moustache is awesome, but it looks like the Lundi 27.1 might not have a suspension fork? I like Bosch stuff, but for a cruiser, this is one of my favorites right now! The fenders are the best I've seen, I like the Specialized brand and style, the lights and rack and battery and smooth motor... I'd choose this one, but be VERY happy with the Lundi 27.1 as well :D
I have been interested in seeing a review on the Specialized bike.
Do you know if the EG Geneva is still available? I would like an update.
I like it because it can go over 20, has a mid drive motor and a throttle.
Cool! I haven't seen EG bikes at my local shops recently, and my old friend Sam from the Electric Bicycle Center in Fullerton retired a year or two ago... I appreciate your request and will try to cover them again someday, and specifically the Geneva :)
@Text Me On @Electricbike_review What is your contact information?
I like a lot of things about this bike but that stem is an absolute deal breaker for me, i need the ability to adjust my riding position for maximum comfort! This is the 3rd bike i have seen in recent weeks with a non adjustable proprietary stem, i hope this does not become a thing,
Specialized, giant, and trek always do proprietary bs.
@@schmitty8225 there's worse like Rad. You can swap out the stem. No big deal, Pretty common
The Vado version has a stem you can replace for more height.
Without a key inserted to a on position you can ride this bike. What’s to keep someone from stealing this bike if parked for a second without lock?
Can the battery be charged separately? I’d have to run a long extension cord to where I’d have to park it (live in a 2 nd floor apartment)
Well done review - thank you.
The Vado is actually less upright than the Como, not more.
Looks great but the big missing feature is a dedicated throttle. I've come to rely on the throttle to jump on light changes. It makes swimming with traffic much easier. For the money I'd think they'd offer it, but Specialized seems to have taken a moral stance against them.
Thanks for this thorough review! Do you know if you can charge the battery separated from the bike?
I’d like to know, too. I’d have to run a long extension cord to where I’d have to park it (live in a 2 nd floor apartment)
@@psgiles I know now. You can't.
how can i remove stupid speed limit 25km/h?
Hi, any knows if you remove the battery, you can charge this don't only connected to the bike?
Yes. I have a como 3.0 IGH. I remove the battery from the bike during the winter and bring it inside my house. I charge it during that time about once a month. There is a key that unlocks the latch that allows you to remove the battery.
@@fwilljr54 thanks! When you remove the battery can you charge inside? You require some special adapter or you use the same they come with the bike?
Is that price reasonable for this bike? 🤔
There's a range of ebikes at different prices. Some offer better warranties or more customer service (like a chain of shops that help assemble, fit, and repair). The price must be acceptable if Specialized is still in business... Things cost more today because there are more dollars in the system. I see high prices as more of a government question inflation question than an industry or brand one. But yeah, some products and services are prohibitively expensive because it satisfies an artistic and exclusivity value for people... like Bugatti
I paid $4200 for my Gazelle Ultimate 380 which is very similar to this bike in so many ways
I just bought a Como 3.0 IGH and the plastic bracket that holds the belt guard broke on my 1st. ride. 😡😡
Love this bike. Are they US made?
Hi Rick! I'm not sure where Specialized builds their frames. Some of the parts could be from different countries (like the brakes, enviolo, suspension fork). I suspect that the motor is German made, I believe that's where Brose is from.
I love the torque and battery but have no need for a suspension fork. Anybody convert the Vado or Como so a regular fork?
It has lockout if you'd like to improve efficiency and stiffness. You have the added weight of a suspension fork... but it's not that much :)
@@ElectricBikeReview Even tuned out I don't need it nor even any more weight
I thought there was a reply about an idea to help but it disappeared from the replies.
Saying the SL has a "weaker" motor is a bit unfair. It's a totally different bike aimed at a more experienced and fit rider.
I feel you, and I actually love the SL! It works great but offers lower motor wattage and peak torque. Given the lighter weight design, the motor performs well as a more "active" ride :D
I believe Specialized has addressed concerns of previous models of the Como with the new models. Adding the suspension fork is a big improvement. I for one love the new proprietary handlebars. As for the Como SL, I wonder how well it sold. speaking for myself, why would I want half the battery - half the power for $4000. Also as far as being lighter, the Como SL is only a couple lbs. lighter than the previous Como 4.0 but with much less battery - power. JMHO
I own 3 Como e bikes - the new 2022 Como 5.0, a 2021 Como 5.0 and a 2020 Como 4.0.
The new 2022 Como is a little heavier probably because of the suspension fork but is more powerful/ more responsive in my experience. The new 2022 Como is much improved IMO
Noise present when pedaling… went to the shop many times for a fix. The squeaking noise is coming from the motor, but the Specialized rep decided it was the belt itself and denied any responsability.
Whacked my shin with bike peddles so many times o my old bike . And it's painfull
I'm so happy I got the Trek Allante 7. I like Specialized but this model? No thanks
Cool, Trek has some great products, glad you're happy with the Allant 7!
'Specialized Turbo Como' is GOING OUTTA BUSINESS !!!
Source?
@@doggyman1202
It's Not a Statement, that the're Going Out of Business, it Was a Comment, that They'll 'Go Out of Business, Charging- 3000 -4000 -5000 Thousand Dollars Per Unit ..
@@lawgiver-2305 Sorry, I misunderstood.
@@lawgiver-2305 I don’t think they are going out of business. Why would I then have to wait till July to get mine.
As prices increase, perhaps you’d be better off purchasing a Honda 125 trail bike.
the best thing to do is stop buying eBikes until the prices start coming down.
You can't ride a Honda on bike trails. You're obviously uninformed ebike life
Yawn
The bike has almost everything I’m looking for in a ebike….. but the handle bars are a big no no. Sorry Specialized no customer here.
It's not even a comparison. I'm building a custom ebike, specialized chisel mtb with bbshd and Samsung battery pack, all in 3500 out the door. Specialized doesn't even make an ebike that can match the specs and reliability of a custom build like this. If they did in today's market it would be 8-10k and they don't sell much in that range. And anyone can install the motor and battery doesn't take a gear head. I'll have 60mile range with a bit of peddling and above 30miles with all motor no peddle, top speed about 35-8mph on flats all motor no peddle, will climb any hill no peddle. The pre-made ebike market is insanely overpriced, bike shops will not build you a custom ebike like the one I'm building because they want you to grossly overpay for a pre made ebike. Once people find out how much they are overpaying cheap bikes with a motor and battery installed they pre-made ebike market will crash, enjoy the bubble while it lasts. And the mission control app is a joke, the bbshd allows you full optimization of the speed levels, you can customize the volts per peddle (9 levels) assist level to match your riding style.
It’s not a pedalac and practically an electric moped. Good for you. Enjoy the bike.
It's nice to have so many choices. For some people it might just be more convenient to buy a purpose built ebike with a good warranty and clean integration. There's a range of prices for these products, and the service that goes along, but the kits are fun alternatives. It's all good.
Do you ever review cheap $1500 bikes? I mean no way I'm riding something that cost almost 4 grand around. I don't understand how people are buying these things and then riding them in the rain and locking them up around town. I simply can't believe it and don't buy the hype that these things are commuter replacements. They are simply entertainment for rich white people leisure joy rides. There is no hope for bike shops especially since they only want to work on the bikes they sell. I think the box store chinese bikes and DIY kits are going to finally finish them off.
Yeah, I review cheaper ebikes all the time. Here's a list electricbikereview.com/category/affordable/
@@ElectricBikeReview that's great! Just want to say I must have watched that video with Sam from Myron's bike shop title professional advice on ebikes over a dozen times lol
@Text Me On @Electricbike_review thank you so much I will for sure!!!
Why make an eBike discussion into a rich white set up? It’s any rich person not exclusive.
@@hawsrulebegin7768 true. At the time my mind frame was still thinking about the fact that New York City hipsters benefit mote from the lawthere more than Asian and Spanish working-class guys driving around on mopeds and scooters which are more restricted. But you're right I shouldn't generalize like that.
It’s a girls bike, do you drink bud light🤪