‘Extra’ Archive: Michael Massee on Brandon Lee’s Death (2005 Interview)
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- Опубліковано 26 жов 2016
- Earlier this week, “The Crow” actor Michael Massee died at the age of 61 of an unknown cause.
Massee was unfortunately most known for accidentally killing Brandon Lee on the set of their movie “The Crow” in 1993. In 2005, he broke his silence on the freak accident, telling “Extra,” “Since then, I’m very conscious of the dangers of making a movie… What happened to Brandon was a tragic accident and it’s something that I’m going to live with.” This was the only time Massee spoke out about the tragedy in front of cameras. - Розваги
Poor guy. I can’t even imagine the pain of accidentally killing someone.
Even up to his own death of stomach cancer in 2016, I don’t think he ever got over it. And for this, I feel very sorry for him
just at the wrong time in the wrong place. A complete coincidence
what makes it even more painful is that Brandon was his friend . i like to think since now michael has passed on . brandon forgives him in the next life . i think he told him
Well, to be fair, HE didn't accidently kill Brandon. It was the guy responsible for making sure the prop gun was safe.
@@firestream93 true
Michael if people are reunited after we pass, Brandon would be the first one to tell you it wasn't your fault.
How can u know? Wasn’t his fault we never knows only god knows
@@concac314 Are you brain dead? This actor has nothing to do with the department that provides weapons on set.
The rounds that were loaded by the prop department and were messed up due to the time constraints.
Go read more fairy tales about higher powers that know it all.
@@concac314 god doesnt know shit, he knows as much as drop dead fred.... imaginary friends cant help you. he WASNT his fault!!! get ya head outta god loving ass
Brandon was probably the first to greet him when he crossed over.
Brandon would be like “you asshole”
He passed, yet every headline mentions how he accidentally killed Brandon. It's disgusting. His death was tragic, but the fact that he had to live with it is just as worse. Imagine having to apologize to his family and friends knowing it wasn't your fault. Imagine people hating you for that. Imagine the impact of having to try and film anything else with a prop and being afraid of something bad happening. It's one thing to kill in war, another to be evil and kill for pleasure or revenge, but being feeling responsible for a death that was 100% not your fault? Life-shattering.
Jeff Sorensen He was paid to kill BRADON LEE. These devil do anything for money and frame even skinned their parent alive smh....
Jeff Sorensen BRADON LEE mom wanted to take her son death to higher courts but she constantly getting phone treats saying if she do something bad will happen to her and Linda Lee . So she drop the lawsuit smh...
Simone King k
one of the most profound comments on youtube... michael handled this tragedy in a well composed manner
i would like to think they were tied together in this life and the next.
This guy took Brandons death hard. You can tell it haunted him till his last day. RIP to him and Brandon.
And Bruce, Brandon’s dad.
At least he’s honest about what happened unlike Alec Baldwin🙄🙄🙄
@@monkeycat48 What happened with Alec Baldwin? I know he shot some lady that died but what did he lie about?
@Edward89 yeah, his eyes and even the way he moves or speaks tells a lot of his trauma, I feel so sorry for him. You can tell that it wasn’t his fault
Wouldn’t you? How horrible it was.
He was not to blame. He was the wrong person, holding the wrong prop, at the wrong time. It was a tragic accident and this poor man had to live the rest of his days with this on his conscience. I'm heartbroken for him. I hope he has found peace x
This is the guy to blame ua-cam.com/video/xm-_HgdnLww/v-deo.html
How do you know this?@@raven12788
I'm sure he's right next to Brandon right now, Brandon making sure he's not to blame!
In case you didn't know, he's dead now... although maybe thats what you meant by you hope he has found peace
You can see the stress. How could he get over anything like that!
RIP and long live Brandon Lee (February 1, 1965 - March 31, 1993), aged 28
And
RIP and long live Michael Massee (September 1, 1952 - October 20, 2016), aged 64
You both will always be remembered as legends.
He was very courageous to talk about this terrible accident. RIP
It's sad knowing Michael blamed himself for accidentally causing Brandon's death and you can hear the guilt in his voice,I hope he found peace when he passed away
@@IMaximusDMI dude, seriously
Am I wrong?
Was there a reason you had to type something like that?
IMaximusDMI You’re trying too hard.
@@jackal8607 Clown deleted his comment.
Rest In Peace Michael Massee. It was never your fault.
I don’t blame him at all in fact a lot of people understood it wasn’t his fault he didn’t mean it nobody means to do that at least he takes responsibility and doesn’t act like a coward like Alec Baldwin. Alec Baldwin never even wants to admit he made a mistake he just wants to blame the tool he just wants to blame everybody else but him like everything is a conspiracy to Alec Baldwin even the FBI say this is outrageous. All had to deal with admit the same as what Michael Massee admitted. If Alec Baldwin admitted what he had done he would’ve gotten a pass but instead nope he is the biggest selfish ass.
@@monkeycat48 I think part of it is that Alec Baldwin is an overindulged Hollywood A-lister whose fame got to his head and instilled a sense of self-importance and narcissism, which is why he is unwilling to take responsibility and likely feels he is a bigger victim than the actual victim, who nobody ever talked about before what happened
Michael Massee was never much of a household name, he treated his acting career as just a job, and thus he felt as crushed by what happened as, say, a construction worker would feel if a fatal industrial accident happened in their hands on the site
It realy was never your fault rest in pace godd bease YOU
He always felt responsible for Brandon's death. I hope in death he can finally meet Brandon again and know once and for all he wasn't guilty. I know Brandon would not hold him responsible.
How do you know what someone you never even knew would think dipshit? I'm sure Brandon is not exactly tickled pink that his life was cut short either!
We hope so! :'(
I wish him peace
hold on dude how is it his fault he felt bad about it for the rest of his life i bet he would do anything to take it back he was just doing his job how can you hold him at fault
Adam Palomino no, fuck you
I dont wanna know who shot the gun, i wanna know who prepare the props. He should be the one being interviewed here not him.
Facts
He prepared the bullets and gun bro
@@zin8618 No. He didn't. The PROPS team did. It is not an actor's job to inspect or prepare props. The props team is expected to make sure EVERYTHING is safe. This applies to theater and film production.
Man they killed him on purpose it was a woman that wanted brandon lee dead probably because he didn't want to have sex with her
@@dassolosyndikat5113 boy shut the fuck up because you sound ignorant.
Just by watching this, you can tell that Michael Massee has continuously suffered from the accidental killing of Brandon Lee. I don't think Brandon would have wanted Michael to continue to suffer for this tragic accident and I hope that Michael and Brandon, where ever they are now have spoken in the after life and found ultimate forgiveness and peace with one another...I believe that there is an after life and I do believe that Brandon and Michael went to heaven and that they have finally found peace. I have found out that Michael died at the age of 64 and it was stomach cancer (which is what my grandfather died from in the early 1970s). God bless you Brandon and God bless your Michael, may you both rest in peace.
There is no afterlife.
@@Fireglo You never know.
@@velardejakob1852 well certainly nothing suggests that any consciousness exists outside of the brain. If you're brain damaged you can lose your consciousness while still alive.
@Főfasírozó what is this "strong proof" for reincarnation?
5:16 - 5:18 it's all been part of lies....
The guy was handed a gun by the prop master or armourer, it's not his job as a actor to make sure the guns are safe and ready for switching between blank and live firing... feel bad for the guy
It's the full responsibility of the Armourer to check the gun over, NOT the actor, the dumb fuck prop guy had no weapon experience, let alone armoury experience, he is the one responsible
They said it wasn't a bullet but something else. Like the prop gun broke and accidentally fired a something in him.
The gun had been firing live rounds the day before and a fragment got jammed in the chamber, they loaded the gun with blanks but the pressure was enough to send out the fragment that killed brandon
Morphine Motorhead not a fragment..they were making dummy bullets with fired blanks but accidently made one thag wasnt fired so it had charge....( so it had charge and bullet but no gun powder) after the primer was fired the lead bullet was fired enough to get stuck in the barrel..crew didnt know and 14 days it stayed in the gun then they put blanks in it essentially creating a real bullet because it now had a primer,gun powder, and lead tip..and thats how he got shot..crazy accident that should of never happened if they didnt rush and make dummh rounds out of blanks
Blanks have 3x the ammoubt of gun pouder as real bullets have for a louder sound so with the led end stuck in the barrel firing 3x as much punch than a regular bullet he didnt have a chance
you can hear it in his voice hes so cut up about it
Its sad...
No you can’t lol I’d cry if I killed someone.
J S Just because he didn't cry, doesnt mean he's isn't traumatized by it, dumbass.
Honestly you must not be good a reading people because it doesn't sound like he cut up it just sounds like a interview
gregory shmemory Why you calling him aduv ass like damn what's wrong with you people is that truly caused for because he using UA-cam as a voice to voice his individuality you need to grow up and voice your opinion with out throwing fits kid.
Michael Massee was a class act. He was also a victim in Brandon's death. I have a feeling his life was never the same after that happened. When he talked about Eliza Hutton playing in the park with her daughter, and that child not being Brandon's, I sensed his pain in what he said despite him meaning for that comment to portray a positive thing.
You’re right, on this day, 1.5 half people died. 😐
@@Kackspack0815 well, maybe 2.5 if we count Eliza and his mother as well.
3:22 "the thing is, it wasn't supposed to happen"... Brilliant insight from the interviewer...
partly Dir fault for changing the scene last minute
This man has now passed, can we just have a moment for him - not his fault ! The film company the prop person the corners cut to save money - that is the issue here. Brandon is gone and we love him and miss him - please do not blame this man for the circumstance that happened.
This poor dude had to carry that with him for the rest of his life. Thats a hell of a thing to have weighing over you. Hopefully he found peace before he passed.
After all those years you can still see the pain in his eyes. Taking a life, even accidentaly, must be the most difficult thing a human being has to live with. No way you drop that, you can only shake it from a shoulder to another.
3:04 you can just hear the sharp pain in his voice crack.. Poor guy.
Brandon is hugging his boy REAL tight saying "Look at me! I love you, man You Hear Me?" I love you so much Michael
Came here after the recent gun accident on a movie set with Alec Baldwin. My thoughts are with the victims and the victim's families, but we mustn't forget that the person who pulled the trigger unknowingly is a victim as well. The way he talks about it is so sad, you can tell he's healed but the wound is still there and never went away. Rest in peace Lee and rest in peace Massee.
My dad was murdered by gun 4 years before Brandon.
@@butchreed213 I lost my dad when I was 5 due to a car accident. Although he was not murdered, I understand how it feels to lose someone so suddenly and tragically. I am sorry for your loss.
It would've been very awful for him to hear about the news about the "Rust"'s DP death. It'd be like opening old wounds.
Unfortunately people aren’t so forgiving with Baldwin just for his political views. Both were tragic accidents and the person who pulled the trigger doesn’t deserve to be dragged through the mud
True i kno ppl dont like alec but he did not try to kill her, it was an accident.
Poor man. Horrific that this has happened again 30 years later.
This time, it didn't happened to an actor/actress.
Us losing Brandon was hard... Him living with that is ten times harder
Michael Massee & Brandon Lee, Together Again & Friends in the Afterlife...RIP to Both of them...
I know Brandon wrapped his arms around Michael and kissed him on the cheek up there. He is hugging his bro REAL tight 🥹
You can hear him how deeply he felt at that moment. RIP
i see from this interview he never got over it.
the mental suffering this man went through was agonizing. i am so sorry
R.I.P. to both Brandon Lee and Michael Massee. Such a terrible incident for both of them. Michael wasn't responsible at all for what happened and I can't imagine having to live with this all his life. I hope he found peace. Brandon wouldn't have blamed him for what happened.
Anyone that would've had that prop gun would be Brandon's "killer". It wasn't anyone's fault that pulled the trigger, it's the failure of the prop crew for not seeing this defect.
Michael Massee deserves to rest in peace. He is obviously torn up about it. He was a good man. Played a lot of awful characters in his career but that's the quality of actor he was. Good man acting like a villain and pulling it off well=great acting to me.
he trembles, shudders, knowing to bear that accident in his shoulders for the rest of his life.
I feel so bad for this actor. He was the only person who really wasn’t to blame.
Exactly...I feel like he trusted them, the whole "team" and so that they failed him, they didn't really PROTECT him( not only Brandon but protect him and his heart too.)
@@apricoconutfitzgerald2280 sad this happened again today
I just bought The Crow DVD today at Walmart, and watched it 2hrs ago. Love this film and the beautiful ending. Brandon Lee was gorgeous in that black outfit and makeup. As for Michael Massie, yes, he had to live with that death within himself his whole life. May they both be at PEACE now...☮️🙏
Saw Michael at the first comic con panel he ever did with Ernie and Tony. We were told before they came out he was willing to talk about it but don't be a jerk. Thankfully no one did but I swear you could feel his trauma and pain connected to the film. I can't even imagine.
You can see true pain as even after all this time he still struggles to talk about it, poor man..
During this interview, I hope Brandon's ghost was wrapping his arms around Michael telling him how much he loves him and telling him how Proud he is of him for moving forward in his life and continuing his career. And he kissed him on the cheek 🥹
I feel bad for the guy. It must have been awful for him too. R.I.P.
Poor Michael Massee he don't deserve this. Rest in Peace Both Brandon Lee and Michael Massee.
He's right, he doesn't have to mention it in conversation because it isn't relevant to the person he's talking to. Why should he apologize to a stranger, when he already apologized to Brandon's then-fiancé, Eliza, and his family? The very people whom he should have apologized to because they were directly impacted by their personal loss.
Its not his fault the bullet was in the gun. It is the job of the FIRE ARMS EXPERT not the actor's job to check the weapons before they are used.The guy in this video is NOT responsible for brandons death, it was a accident.
Siya Manci A real bullet tip was lodged in the gun due to a decision decision to convert real bullets into blanks and dummy rounds. The belief is that a dummy round still had a live primer with enough Force to pop the bullet tip into the barrel of the gun, and it was not properly checked before someone put a blank into the gun and handed it to the actor.
He may feel guilty, but he is not responsible. There should be a Firearms Master on set that's supposed to handle all of this crap properly. He just takes the gun and does as directed, when directed.
Siya Manci You're a Fuckin Idiot
I feel bad that Michael felt, and others felt, that he needed to apologize for something that was not his fault. I would still apologize, if I was in a similar situation to Mucheal's, though. Michael had to carry this burden that he didn't deserve to carry. It's so tragic and sad.
Why should he apologise at all?
His peace will be when he meet Brandon and cried Eternally on his shoulder. and Brandon comforts him. The society cursing, judging, condemning, the social sanction that this man have to bear, you can hear stressing from his voice, is unimaginable.
As Michael was sobbing HARD, Brandon was holding him TIGHT saying "hey hey hey don't cry bro, Look at me! it wasn't your fault, you know I love you right? You don't have to suffer like that anymore You Hear Me?"
I feel so sorry that he had to live with this tragic accident his whole life.
You can see in his eyes how hard this has been for him. God awful what happened.
You can really see how broken he is by what happened and it wasn’t even his fault. RIP Brandon and Michael.
This poor man had to be devastated. The guilt had to be unbearable. Good for him to give us his thoughts one time only. The interviewDr was ignorant saying so you're over it. She should've been fired. She got an amazing once in a lifetime interview and acted cold like Barbara Walters.
After all these years I’m just finding out it was him who had the prop. I thought it was a stunt double. I feel bad for him and you can tell he’s thought long and hard about this for a long time. I hope he’s resting in peace.
Brandon met him in the afterlife to hug him and tell him it’s ok and we’re together again. I firmly believe in that.
I believe that too. They were good friends. It's just tragic, all the way around. The fact that Brandon's then-fiance shops in Michael's wife's shop to this day, tells me the Lee family has totally forgiven him. What's not to forgive? Just a horrible accident.
must have been a hard thing to carry with him. r.i.p.
So sad he had to live with the accident every day of his life. No one can get over that type of guilt.
He couldn't let it go. He just couldn't.
Except there shouldn't have been guilt in the first place. He wasn't guilty of anything.
@@SCharlesDennicon absolutely correct- he did nothing wrong - the guilt lies all on the production team. But he carried so much guilt with him every day
@@caesar349 It's a bit like Baldwin, isn't it? The dude did play a part but wasn't guilty.
Poor guy. It was never his fault, yet he probably lived with tremendous guilt up until his death.
its not his fault however the studio had to be sued for that
100% agree on that!
He died of stomach cancer and it was so strange, that when the doctors discovered the cancer in his stomach, it started spreading from the same place that bullet hit Brandon Lee. it was an accident and for him was a big trauma. He was great actor who suffered much from this tragedy. He didn't kill Brandonon purpose, he didn't know about the gun and like he said you will never get over such thing. He is not a murderer. It was awful when the announce his death "The actor who shot Brandon Lee has died". Like he is a killer. He was an actor, not bloody cold murderer. He had many good roles to be remembered for, and not the tragedy.
So sad! He would have had an insane comeback if The Amazing Spiderman movies with Andrew Garfield had continued, he was that guy who appeared in the post credits of the two movies.
Michael Massee died of stomach cancer in Los Angeles on October 20, 2016 at the age of 64. R.I.P.
I feel absolutely terrible for this poor man. I feel like his face, even though he is great-looking, got something really sad, like a bit broken already, and inside his eyes omg... even more with age( so after he "killed" by accident smone. and the world knowing it. What a shock) I used to love this actor even before I knew he was famous in films...so I guess some people got a special "thing", charisma, they are made to be stars.Rest in peace...
Michael Massee said in another interview. Once Brandon was killed. He didn.t want to discuss it with the Media. Took a year off once The Crow was finished. Movie came out in 94. Michael wasn.t at the Opening for the Crow. Says he still blames himself.
Revertino Tse which makes me so sad he had to go through his life carrying this guilt. It's not the job of the actor to check the safety of the 'prop.' I dunno. I somewhat feel it wasn't an accident, but in NO way was this mans fault.
@@NikkiLove9022 No. It was never Michael.s Fault
Very good interview. You can see he is still dealing with the accident and he handled the aftermath respectfully. I am sure Brandon’s loved ones are grateful that this was the only interview where Michael spoke about the tragedy.
In Memory of Brandon Lee
In Memory of Michael Massee
Had no idea he passed on in 2016
R. I. P. Michael and Brandon
That’s a guilt and burden that no person should have to bare. The look in his face, eyes and the sound of his voice. There’s pain, anxiety and regret all over it.
At least he is in peace now and Brandon can tell him, himself that it was not his fault.
I’m sure Linda Caldwell (Brandon’s mother/Bruce Lee’s wife) would have told him also. She’s such a soft spoken, kind and compassionate person.
Rest In Peace Michael.
HE Was not guilty of Brandon Lee's death!
Does anyone really think he was?
& now in 2021 it’s happened again. There’s no excuse for a firearm to not be properly checked & cleared before being handed to an actor for a scene. RIP: Brandon Lee (1993), Michael Massee (2016) & Halyna Hutchins (2021).
It always angered me that no one could mention him without adding about the accident. It was always phrased in such a way that it sounded like he'd been to blame which is ridiculous. It's really nice to hear Eliza has someone and a little girl. Small mercies x
I don’t blame Michael at all, I blame the prop gun master for being so careless
I cannot imagine the trauma this man has been through, poor guy was just acting in a movie, what a horrible tragedy
I always felt so terrible for Massee.
I can't imagine a more traumatic thing to be a direct part of during a film shoot.
Jesus...
I feel so bad for him. May God rest his soul, along with Brandon and his family.
“But you’ve gotten over it.” WTF lady???!!! Moron!!
Really sad and tragically unfortunate. Whenever I see The Crow I also think of this actor, Michael, and what he and the prop crew went through psychologically. We’ll never know what Lee could have done in movies - he was just beginning to hit his stride and The Crow may have launched him to the big time.
I feel so bad for Michael. Movie making should be a wonderful experience. This is tragic.
Thanks for posting this. I read where it tore him up (as it would any of us) but seeing him talk about it and how he was able to finally move on was nice. Damn shame he got stomach cancer. He was a talented dude and seemed like a genuinely nice guy.
Poor guy accidentally killing someone with a bad prop the emotional pain must of been unreal
Sadly, an unthinkable happening. 😓 Poor man you can see it on his face.
The whole situation is incomprehensibly tragic on both sides, due to one persons negligence a good hearted talented young man lost his life and another good hearted talented young man had to carry the weight of the accident on his mind for the rest of his life. I can not imagine the weight this man had to carry following that ordeal. Bad things happen to good people in this world and it’s truly heart breaking when In this instance the bad thing happened to two good people. Rest In Peace Brandon Lee and Rest In Peace Michael Massee 🙏🏻
To me, he will always be known as the best villain on 24.
"That's right, Jack, I'm watching you".
The mental aspect of being accidentally responsible for someone’s death. That alone can drive a man insane.
It's sad that the only thing this guy is remembered for is how he accidently killed Brandon Lee.
Brandon would not be pleased with that either
RIP Michael and Brandon, love....
“The thing is, it wasn’t supposed to happen.”
Well gee, thanks for your magnificent insight lady.
No one blamed you. 100 percent not your fault! RIP Michael
Brandon never would have blamed Michael. He would have said "I'm truly sorry you had to live with this."
After he said that to Michael, Brandon would've also said "Oh, wipe those weeping eyes baby, Look at me! I love you, You Hear Me?" And I also know he kissed him on the forehead.
Rip Michael (fun boy) was not your fault I know your up their with Brandon and my brother that passed away back in 2014
Sad story he even said that the scene was not not supposed to happen and he said the director changed the scene so there we have our answers
I really loved him in Supernatural. Good actor
RIP
jesus I feel so bad for him. I hope he knows no one blames him.
Brandon doesn't blame him at all for what happened. Rest in peace Michael, you don't have to suffer like that again, Brandon took ALL of your pain away, including your stomach cancer. Brandon got you in his arms now hugging you EXTRA Tight. You will ALWAYS be Funboy
Rip Micheal with Brandon, everyone else might think and say you killed him but i know you had nothing to do with his death, sorry you had to go through all the pain after, the blame is fully on the prop guy he is 100% his fault
This is heartbreaking. I hope he found peace in life and maybe after, too.
RIP Michael and Brandon. If there's a Heaven I know you're both there. Fly high.
I can't imagine how awful that must of been!
Imagine if Alec Baldwin had a shred of decency like this man
Him and his fraud of a wife.
Michael was a real good guy. I always thought Alec was, but the way he’s reacted and responded to what happened is pretty disgraceful
Agree 💯
I’ve known about Michael Massee ever since his role as Ira Gaines in 24. This is how he deserved to be remembered.
I'm really sorry for him. He did not deserve to be haunted by Brandon's death forever... it was not his fault
What a thing to hold yourself captive over.. poor man.. I can only imagine how he feels.. and the people that didn't check the gun...
Check the guns to see if there's any bullets, or if it is a real gun.
As Brandon would say, don't take anything for granted! A sighting of a Full Moon & silly things we all take for granted, look & enjoy the small things.
Great honest testimony by Michael Massee. Great video.
I met him 6 years ago he was a very nice guy.
RIP Michael... We know that was an accident. Not your fault. I'm sorry that you had to deal with this in your life. I know it was hard on you. We miss you...
i hope he sees brandon again in the afterlife
@@shadowmomochiuchiha6839 and I hope Brandon looks at Michael with a big smile on his face, pulls him closer and hugs him tight and says "hey hey, Michael it's all right man I got you now it wasn't your fault bro I love you, You Hear Me?"
Rest easy, Michael. You no longer have to suffer through this tragic accident. I'm sure Brandon knows it was accidental.
RIP you both...
Sounds like a good dude. Self sware. Tragic things happen. Unfortunately. He’s right, life has to go on.
Wow. First time I’ve seen this. He clearly had to live with this pain for the rest of his life. I wonder what he would say to Alec Baldwin today if he was still here. You would hope after Brandon, that things would be in place so this could never, ever happen again. What have we learned from Brandon’s tragedy?? Nothing it seems. What an absolute tragedy for all involved.
Thank you so much for this interview. MM's words and face will forever be remembered by many people.
So sad this man had to deal with that. RIP Brandon Lee
i can see in his face he have been sorry since 1994, what a awful situation to be in because this accident was caused by the director 3:24
It’s so weird to know he portrayed Ira Gaines in the first season of 24 and his character had to shoot people in that. I know he was a professional actor, but I would’ve thought he would’ve passed on that type of role. Still im Glad he didn’t he was fantastic! ❤️✌️
Although I sometimes speculate Brandon and Bruce's death being a coordinated assassination from rivals, I never put the blame on this man. I can't imagine what it must've felt like to accidentally place a fatal round into someone at point blank range. That is a heavy toll to carry. Furthermore, when you attend weapons training, you put all of your faith in the firearm instructor to have everything in check. It's a similar situation here. He was given the gun from an expert handler. He's an actor whose only job is to point and pull the trigger. He didn't know all the particulars.
Yeah this expert handler ua-cam.com/video/xm-_HgdnLww/v-deo.html
I sometimes speculate it too. But , can we ever know the truth, if it were not an accident . Maybe not.
@@raven12788 , thanks for pointing fingers! That's the guy!