How GOOD was Shedinja ACTUALLY? - History of Shedinja in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 3-7)

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  • @meatshield_
    @meatshield_ 5 років тому +5619

    I like the Idea that a discarded exoskeleton can shrug off potentially world-ending attacks.

    • @butteredsalmonella
      @butteredsalmonella 4 роки тому +583

      Groudon: I SHALL UNLEASH SOME PRECIPICE OF THE EARTH THAT SHALL BE BLADES THAT WILL SHATTER EVERYONE.
      Shedinja: meh ok

    • @owentithof
      @owentithof 4 роки тому +500

      @@butteredsalmonella Also Shedinja:
      Bird slaps it with its wing
      *Dies*

    • @JoeBro915
      @JoeBro915 4 роки тому +149

      General Grievous not even a wing attack all a bird has to do is peck it

    • @primarina9812
      @primarina9812 4 роки тому +131

      JoeBro915 *peck*
      Shedinja: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *dies*

    • @dancostello4872
      @dancostello4872 4 роки тому +118

      Literally any sweeper that lacks Fire, Dark, Rock, Ghost or Flying moves: I am inevitable
      Shedinja: Am I a joke to you?
      Slight gust of wind: Allow me to introduce myself

  • @sonny_njr
    @sonny_njr 5 років тому +6088

    Shedinja doesn’t like sand. It’s coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere. Not like NU. There everything is soft, and smooth.

  • @ZorotheGallade
    @ZorotheGallade 4 роки тому +3933

    "Shedinja, you just can't cut it either in OU or in UU."
    "Then I'll go to UBERS."
    "Wait, it doesn't work that wa-"
    "U B E R S"

    • @riccardopelino
      @riccardopelino 4 роки тому +97

      I love this comment

    • @osumazimeowisfromme6241
      @osumazimeowisfromme6241 3 роки тому +77

      That remembers me of the Simpsons where Mr. Burns says he is indestructable xD

    • @dragonslayerz2220
      @dragonslayerz2220 3 роки тому +82

      Quagsire also says hi in ubers.

    • @EpixClodz
      @EpixClodz 3 роки тому +9

      @@dragonslayerz2220 true

    • @anon2447
      @anon2447 3 роки тому +15

      @@dragonslayerz2220 Froslass as welll..

  • @omgidkwhatimdoing9626
    @omgidkwhatimdoing9626 5 років тому +6833

    that feel when your so bad that you can only be used in uber.
    wait.

    • @grammaticalrouge29
      @grammaticalrouge29 5 років тому +731

      Meanwhile everyone else were too busy running against each other to the finish line Shedinja ear the starting shot, took one step back, and crossed it.

    • @wildstarfish3786
      @wildstarfish3786 5 років тому +156

      shedinja just drew a 4 in sorry

    • @Shin_FTW
      @Shin_FTW 5 років тому +181

      @@grammaticalrouge29 Or like being far ahead 1st in Mario Kart because everyone in 2nd and below is too busy fighting each other for the honor of taking you out.

    • @_V.Va_
      @_V.Va_ 5 років тому +28

      *you're

    • @doubleace11554
      @doubleace11554 5 років тому +7

      Grammatical Rouge then died

  • @CanadianChrist
    @CanadianChrist 4 роки тому +4662

    Shedinjas second highest stat is defense, let that sink in

    • @jambon2730
      @jambon2730 3 роки тому +869

      Funfact : he can learn Leech life and final gambit

    • @Puki9117
      @Puki9117 3 роки тому +74

      No

    • @microwave8931
      @microwave8931 3 роки тому +137

      @@Puki9117 yeah

    • @yamirami8642
      @yamirami8642 3 роки тому +55

      @@Puki9117 yes

    • @Puki9117
      @Puki9117 3 роки тому +29

      @@yamirami8642 No

  • @horricule451
    @horricule451 5 років тому +2516

    Shedinja's a gimmick, but i'll be damned if it ain't one of the most entertaining gimmicks out there.

    • @CollegeBallYouknow
      @CollegeBallYouknow 5 років тому +185

      Horricule
      It is *NOT* a mere gimmick.
      It is a *LIFESTYLE.*

    • @dannyn6036
      @dannyn6036 4 роки тому +30

      beat up arcanine or lucario is the best gimmicks

    • @guardian3636
      @guardian3636 4 роки тому +14

      It's better if you give it sturdy

    • @dannyn6036
      @dannyn6036 4 роки тому +20

      @@guardian3636 it'll be immortal if it has sturdy

    • @MisterSleep1123
      @MisterSleep1123 4 роки тому +14

      @@dannyn6036 until you throw fire spin

  • @TheLateMrBones
    @TheLateMrBones 4 роки тому +4064

    Still annoyed how Shedinja doesn’t have 1 for Def and SpDef. Would give it more stats for attacking and speed

  • @johnbailey5835
    @johnbailey5835 3 роки тому +893

    Mega rayquaza: *Life orb Draco meteor*
    Shedinja: You sure you belong in AG?
    Charmander: *Ember*
    Shedinja: OH GOD NO

    • @endiedementor581
      @endiedementor581 2 роки тому +64

      Dragon Ascent go brrrr

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 2 роки тому +27

      Team Rocket: Recites their motto
      Paul: *EMBER!*
      TR: Ember! :D ... *EMBER?!?*
      *Shedinja faints*

    • @vyor8837
      @vyor8837 Рік тому

      @@endiedementor581 that's a dragon type move though?

    • @snowvix8902
      @snowvix8902 Рік тому +4

      @@vyor8837 no, it's flying

    • @vyor8837
      @vyor8837 Рік тому

      @@snowvix8902 huh, so it is

  • @yihuixu1957
    @yihuixu1957 5 років тому +3479

    Thanks for mentioning me! In fact, I obtained almost 400 CP with it within moon series, which included 3th place in Mexico City Special Event and 24th place in Collinsville Regionals.

    • @autusticrat
      @autusticrat 5 років тому +391

      It's crazy no one reads this far into the comments and sees this. Congratulations man, on getting that far. Shedinja is a special little guy and I'm glad someone used it.

    • @jamesh7876
      @jamesh7876 5 років тому +26

      Hottie Thottie wasn’t that far.

    • @Ericquer
      @Ericquer 5 років тому +4

      no one cares

    • @jamesh7876
      @jamesh7876 5 років тому +110

      Eric Oliveira you obviously did.

    • @carrier2823
      @carrier2823 5 років тому +45

      Eric Oliveira wow heartless

  • @mmmapplesauce1673
    @mmmapplesauce1673 5 років тому +3438

    >1 HP
    >45 Defense
    >30 Special
    Ok thanks nintendo

    • @wot7nrecordings707
      @wot7nrecordings707 5 років тому +782

      Why even give it points in defensive stats with 1 HP. Would've been better to invest in its other stats.

    • @cinami5588
      @cinami5588 5 років тому +565

      @@wot7nrecordings707 probably because ditto

    • @hosni4064
      @hosni4064 5 років тому +311

      or a received Substitute through Baton Pass

    • @Bannith
      @Bannith 5 років тому +396

      Really if they wanted it to be a viable pokemon they would of transferred its "defensive" stats to offensive. If it gets hit it dies lol... That being said I love the damn thing. One day it will be the god it was meant to be.

    • @speedypichu6833
      @speedypichu6833 5 років тому +26

      @@lucy3766 Pichu! (I think it is obvious why you can't really do that, since you will probably have it die before that happens)

  • @ulrichbrodowsky5016
    @ulrichbrodowsky5016 3 роки тому +277

    "PU? No, that's far to tough for me. I'll stay in UBER, where I belong."
    - quote Shedinja

  • @SMAXZO
    @SMAXZO 5 років тому +1511

    *Legendaries appear and terrorizing a town*
    Shedinja: Can't touch this!

    • @deinonychus1948
      @deinonychus1948 5 років тому +173

      *looks up and sees a pebble falling down* "I'm fucked!"

    • @masonjones7777
      @masonjones7777 4 роки тому +37

      @@deinonychus1948 HAH! Imagine the horrors of combining wonder gaurd with thickfat

    • @israellai
      @israellai 4 роки тому +22

      I used Shedinja in-game in ORAS and lmao those trainers had to keep switching

    • @ShadowtheYouTuber523
      @ShadowtheYouTuber523 4 роки тому +4

      @@masonjones7777 would only negate fire.

    • @masonjones7777
      @masonjones7777 4 роки тому +5

      @@ShadowtheUA-camr523 That's still 1 less instant death then their could have been, which any rational shedninja main would sell a kidney for (provided there even IS a shedninja user that thinks rationally).

  • @howlingarmadillo
    @howlingarmadillo 5 років тому +654

    I can respect any pokemon whose viability is determined entirely by how good your reads are.

    • @chaosryans
      @chaosryans 5 років тому +36

      Yeah literally makes gen 7 by being a mind reading guru.

  • @urlocallazerbird8531
    @urlocallazerbird8531 4 роки тому +1087

    Shedinja is the literal Embodiment of "Imagine actually needing Defense and Sp.Defense Lmao"

    • @sugarybomber
      @sugarybomber 4 роки тому +52

      The only thing you need with shedinja is attack and speed nothing else

    • @monsieurromanbedlam5101
      @monsieurromanbedlam5101 3 роки тому +39

      @@sugarybomber truly, I would love for that 75 Defensive stats to go to either Attacking stats or maybe split it in both cuz a 165 Atk seems too much. Oh and speed too ofc

    • @dragonbournee5270
      @dragonbournee5270 3 роки тому +14

      @@monsieurromanbedlam5101 splitting it to attack and special attack is the most balanced way to do it.

    • @rayofhop3
      @rayofhop3 3 роки тому +3

      "Couldn't be me, lol"

    • @Bulletproofbouchy
      @Bulletproofbouchy 3 роки тому +7

      Despite its second best stat being def...

  • @pepeknight
    @pepeknight 5 років тому +1385

    Shoutouts to the guy who reached top 1 in SM OU using Stall with Safety Goggles Shedinja.
    Also Jinx got Jinxed LUL.

    • @joanaguayoplanell4912
      @joanaguayoplanell4912 5 років тому +37

      I've seen that team a few times. My Ditto gets a good laugh out of it every time.

    • @ajzorger93
      @ajzorger93 5 років тому +3

      Early April fools day?

    • @isnanesavant
      @isnanesavant 5 років тому +25

      God that team made me want to rip my whole fucking head off bro

    • @Resener1
      @Resener1 5 років тому +3

      What was the rest of the team?

    • @pevce47
      @pevce47 5 років тому +18

      @@Resener1 Dugtrio, Mega Sableye, talonflame, seismitoad, togekiss

  • @Cheefoo124
    @Cheefoo124 5 років тому +400

    Shedinja is definitely my favorite pokemon. I fondly remember grinding on my friend's secret base team with him way back in Ruby, because he didn't have anything that could kill it. Then he altered his team to give some of his pokemon anti-Shedinja moves so then I had to alter my strategies to deal with them too. Probably the first time my 10-year-old brain started thinking about pokemon strategically on that level. Thanks Shedinja.

    • @knox9739
      @knox9739 2 роки тому +5

      Pokemon make us think hard

  • @lol101lol101lol10199
    @lol101lol101lol10199 3 роки тому +320

    Ah, yes, Wonder Guard: The ability so abuseable that they had to resort to the unprincipled exception of making Skill Swap not work on that one ability in particular.

    • @oodogla
      @oodogla 3 роки тому +63

      Skill swap also fails on some legendary signature abilities like power construct, as one, multitype and some others I can't remember.

    • @Skullhawk13
      @Skullhawk13 2 роки тому +22

      @@oodogla none of which were added at the same time as skill swap like wonderguard was

    • @noodlepoddle569
      @noodlepoddle569 2 роки тому +6

      Trace gardevoir: hehe boi

    • @r.a.c.5754
      @r.a.c.5754 2 роки тому +6

      What if Wonder Guard worked similarly to Magic Guard in that it also negated indirect damage?

    • @oodogla
      @oodogla 2 роки тому +13

      @@r.a.c.5754 that would be really good since normally shedinja has to use an item to remove one of the many indirect attacks that can kill it, but now it only has to worry about being hit with a super effective attack.

  • @goldenhydreigon4727
    @goldenhydreigon4727 5 років тому +1570

    Who would win?
    A Pokemon who brought enough rain to create oceans.
    Or
    Literally an old cicada skin

    • @Fargoth_Ur
      @Fargoth_Ur 5 років тому +164

      Not even just a dead cicada, its old-ass skin.

    • @goldenhydreigon4727
      @goldenhydreigon4727 5 років тому +17

      @@Fargoth_Ur
      Close enough

    • @jajj56
      @jajj56 5 років тому +35

      Or one dead boi*

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy 5 років тому +6

      Kyogre can learn Ancientpower. It almost never gets used, which I find kind of weird seeing how badly Kyogre gets walled by Shedinja normally. I guess it isn't worth giving up one of Kyogre's moves to not get walled by Shedinja?

    • @ChillavaKirby
      @ChillavaKirby 5 років тому +6

      One skinny boi

  • @thefan6151
    @thefan6151 5 років тому +961

    How good would Shedinja be if Wounder Guard blocked passive damage too? 🤔

    • @djurak3804
      @djurak3804 5 років тому +160

      The Fan op

    • @doubleace11554
      @doubleace11554 5 років тому +284

      The Fan better, but nothing spectacular given it's common weaknesses

    • @pepeknight
      @pepeknight 5 років тому +84

      *Laughs in Entry Hazards*

    • @JoshIsParty
      @JoshIsParty 5 років тому +311

      @@pepeknight entry hazards are passive damage too

    • @thegrayshadow7676
      @thegrayshadow7676 5 років тому +5

      Good enough

  • @lickilicky64
    @lickilicky64 5 років тому +2799

    I just find it hilarious how in lower tiers it's downright useless most of the time but yet in Ubers it's a great counter to certain Uber threats.

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 5 років тому +433

      It's the Wobbuffet effect: The more broken the tier is, the better it gets.

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 5 років тому +64

      @I Want Sex Hubby Nah, most people ran either Gastro or Palkia as Kyogre counters. Some tricky folks would occasionally Scarf Goth to try and trap a weakened Kyogre, but Kyogre needed to be pretty weakened for that to work. That was pretty much all Ubers had to work with, everything else was a soft counter.
      IIRC Pikachu had no business being used anywhere except NU, where it was an OK-ish nuke (more OK then most NFE mons at least).

    • @Dz73zxxx
      @Dz73zxxx 4 роки тому +33

      Quagsire, wobbuffet, shedinja...yeah

    • @frozenvoltz6739
      @frozenvoltz6739 4 роки тому +16

      @@webbowser8834 The introduction of Ferrothorn left all of those pokemon obselete as Kyogre Counters because Ferrothorn can do other roles in Ubers outside of countering kyogre

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 4 роки тому +11

      @@frozenvoltz6739 Ehh, I'm no gen 5 ubers expert, but I'm pretty sure Palkia also did things besides countering Kyogre. Special Defensive Ferro does take a solid 40-50% from max special attack water spout or specs hydro pump, so while it does technically function as a counter, it needed to stay very healthy to do so.
      That's the thing about Kyogre though, resisting his water stab was generally not good enough because it just had so many multipliers going for it. You generally needed either a quad resist or an outright immunity to really dissuade it from just firing off water STAB.

  • @Essex626
    @Essex626 5 років тому +882

    I have a weakness for Pokemon with great strength but weird weaknesses. Shedinja, Slaking and Wishiwashi are my favorites.

    • @chaosryans
      @chaosryans 5 років тому +63

      Wishiwashi was my main when i first played sun and moon. Of course then i got getting to level 20 was the real test.

    • @heathc148
      @heathc148 5 років тому +15

      Your comment has 69 likes so I legally cannot like it

    • @whitecreamymilk8436
      @whitecreamymilk8436 5 років тому +9

      Wobbafett?

    • @Wreckbot_
      @Wreckbot_ 5 років тому +32

      Wishiwashi is amazing granted it stays above 25% HP. I used one on my team back when S&M came out and holy hell does it annihilate things weak to water. I just wish it were faster, but when you have 130+ in both attack and defense stats what can you really ask for

    • @mattyluvspokemon08
      @mattyluvspokemon08 5 років тому +1

      I love all 3 slaking is my favourite pure normal type because counter makes him a great counter to physical sweepers and I love his design wishiwashi just keep health up and he's great, shedding is my least favourite of the 3 but he's still fun and I like working around using him

  • @pofsk1899
    @pofsk1899 5 років тому +230

    I believe one of the most notorius top ladder defining team in ORAS OU was built based on the trio "Dugtrio, Mega Sableye, Shedinja" that relied on Sableye to control hazards, Dugtrio to trap things like Tyrannitar, and Shedinja to wall. (and talonflame, seismitoad, togekiss or other variants of teammates) The team was spammed so much that this is actually the first thing that came to mind when speaking of Shedinja competitvely. Later on though, Mega Sableye got banned several days before Sun Moon arrived, and Dugtrio got retroactively banned as well last year.

  • @CrystalSpirit7
    @CrystalSpirit7 5 років тому +121

    You forgot to mention a significant niche Shedinja had until Arena Trap got banned in OU gen 7, he was seen in stall team paired with Dugtrio (and other stall staples) and Shedinja's work was to do the most cancreous PP stall ever : the switch-trap loop with Protect, Baton Pass, Will-O-Wisp and Shadow Sneak

    • @CrystalSpirit7
      @CrystalSpirit7 5 років тому +12

      @@Ropalme1914 Yep, the niche was short-lived, but when it wasn't, you were constantly wondering if your next opponent had that kinf of team or not, even prepared

    • @shady8045
      @shady8045 5 років тому

      Wasn’t baton pass already banned though

    • @madman4043
      @madman4043 5 років тому +2

      That wasn't good in gen 7, though. It was a gen 6 niche pushed largely by wonder trio and modifications of said team meant to handle the likes of togekiss (like adding zapdos).

    • @CrystalSpirit7
      @CrystalSpirit7 5 років тому +5

      @@madman4043 I forgot it was a thing in gen 6, but yes it was just a niche because it was inconsistent but when you could put it, it was a living hell and I think it's worth mentioning it, at least in a commentary

    • @disasterarchfiend9638
      @disasterarchfiend9638 5 років тому

      Actually, Wonder Trio was considered such a pain that people considered using the ban lists to nerf the teams it was apart of.

  • @sinatraforeign
    @sinatraforeign 5 років тому +608

    6:09 damn shedninja getting freaky.

  • @dznutskong
    @dznutskong 5 років тому +166

    I feel like it should have been mentioned that Shedinja Stall was perfectly viable back when Arena Trap was allowed in OU.

    • @twinwoodsman
      @twinwoodsman 5 років тому +41

      He just reads and paraphrases the smogon article. Shedinja's OU analysis was removed when Arena Trap was banned, but yes, it definitely deserves to be mentioned.

    • @groudonvert7286
      @groudonvert7286 5 років тому +4

      @@bradschaefer2387 He was good in OU ORAS with this strat too.

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc 5 років тому +2

      @@bradschaefer2387 it feels like that's at least partially correct , with exceptions when he gets advise from someone for the video or had personal experience of that meta

  • @stevn2827
    @stevn2827 5 років тому +1441

    How good was the life orb item actually
    Or any item really will do

    • @MisterSleep1123
      @MisterSleep1123 5 років тому +134

      Great... Unless if you're shedinja

    • @Julian-cn1ey
      @Julian-cn1ey 5 років тому +205

      I'd be totally down with Item analysis videos, that actually sounds like a really great idea. Covering the overall meta usage for the item along with notable users and outliers.

    • @justinbowman1342
      @justinbowman1342 5 років тому +42

      That would actually be a great break from pokemon focused episodes.

    • @monte_2000
      @monte_2000 5 років тому +1

      On Noivern 👌

    • @GM.Nobody
      @GM.Nobody 5 років тому +8

      Anyone wanna talk about assault vest tapu koko

  • @butteredsalmonella
    @butteredsalmonella 5 років тому +591

    I just realised that Shedinja's EXACT opposite is Blissey.

    • @badedits4127
      @badedits4127 5 років тому +11

      Explain?

    • @butteredsalmonella
      @butteredsalmonella 5 років тому +129

      @@badedits4127 HP stat.

    • @RBatman5000
      @RBatman5000 4 роки тому +147

      Blissey has the highest HP stat, and shedinja has the lowest HP stat

    • @-KnightOfTheWind
      @-KnightOfTheWind 4 роки тому +114

      @@RBatman5000 Also, Blissey is Normal type.

    • @RBatman5000
      @RBatman5000 4 роки тому +3

      @@-KnightOfTheWind ,yea

  • @raynmanshorts9275
    @raynmanshorts9275 5 років тому +644

    Unviable in OU? That's fine. Just play in Ubers.

    • @IntrusiveThot420
      @IntrusiveThot420 5 років тому +42

      Raynman Gaming I’m surprised shedinja hasn’t seen more use with Safety Goggles blocking weather damage.

    • @PokemonWoelpoes
      @PokemonWoelpoes 5 років тому +11

      Unviable in PU? that's fine. Just play in ubers

    • @fallinggravity9964
      @fallinggravity9964 5 років тому

      @@IntrusiveThot420 i am surprised he never mentions swagger. 50% they can't KO or the fact it is ghost and blocks rapid spin.

    • @P1aceHo1derName
      @P1aceHo1derName 4 роки тому +1

      Raynman Gaming, bruh wym? OU stands for OUbers. Smh

  • @karisasani7006
    @karisasani7006 Рік тому +41

    From what I saw its a good thing Shedinja didnt make it into Scarlet/Violet because the Terastalizing mechanic would've made it SO busted. Want to know why? This is because from what I saw in Smogon, players gave Shedinja the electric tera and equipped it with an air balloon. That made Shedinja almost invincible because the only way to out it at that point would be to have weather hurt it.

    • @Brawneteer
      @Brawneteer 7 місяців тому +2

      Either that or have a mold breaker pokemon hit it

    • @markjugson-vx9go
      @markjugson-vx9go 29 днів тому

      It got straight up banned from Nat Dex OU lmao.

  • @cold-bloodedbeats4139
    @cold-bloodedbeats4139 3 роки тому +227

    I love how that one guy in 2009 just realized that he can't win, so rather than wasting everyone's time, he just has Empoleon and Snorlax just beat on each other to speed things up

    • @stetsonherrick8090
      @stetsonherrick8090 2 роки тому +8

      I realize this comment is a year old, but isn't there some form of time stall shenanigans that could be abused to still win since Shedinja was all that was left compared to the multiple opponents the other player had?
      Or was time stall not in play yet at this point?

    • @ink3487
      @ink3487 2 роки тому +11

      ​@@stetsonherrick8090 Youd need to PP stall shedinja through all of its protects, sunny days, x scissors, and shadow sneaks without dying then struggle would kill shedinja

    • @apdroidgeek1737
      @apdroidgeek1737 Рік тому +2

      @@ink3487 but that wouldnt work cuz by then shedinja wouldve killed both pokemon.

    • @ink3487
      @ink3487 Рік тому

      @@apdroidgeek1737 if Snorlax was rest curse or smthn you could prob stall it out

  • @biglion3220
    @biglion3220 5 років тому +196

    I’m surprised the brief era of “Shedinja Stall” in Sun and Moon wasn’t mentioned

    • @tranquilitickarma
      @tranquilitickarma 5 років тому +15

      can someone explain what that was

    • @Th3Gold3nB00m3r
      @Th3Gold3nB00m3r 5 років тому +39

      @@tranquilitickarma basically shedinja could come in and protect a lot of the already difficult stall pokemon, but it eventually dropped because people realized it just died to way too much especially snow since alolan ninetales was setting up aurora veil everywhere

    • @madman4043
      @madman4043 5 років тому +3

      Because it wasn't relevant.

    • @groudonvert7286
      @groudonvert7286 5 років тому +22

      @@madman4043 It was playable with Dugtrio in ORAS (with Baton Pass). The strat is a counter to many counters of Hardstall.

    • @zaaya7719
      @zaaya7719 5 років тому +8

      It was bigger in ORAS but yes it's pretty dumb he didn't mention that at all

  • @nikohoshikuzu
    @nikohoshikuzu 5 років тому +377

    The 1-Hit Wonder Guard itself

    • @Dr.Stein_
      @Dr.Stein_ 5 років тому +3

      eeveemaster NRN
      Legendary

  • @so_lami_
    @so_lami_ 5 років тому +457

    All I want is Gamefreak to buff Wonderguard to get rid of passive damage...

    • @Robin280497
      @Robin280497 5 років тому +100

      lol i was just thinking the same thing. Except maybe Stealth Rock as it is technically super-effective.

    • @benjaminferido413
      @benjaminferido413 5 років тому +81

      That would be unbelievably broken, just letting yall know

    • @tdawgmaster1729
      @tdawgmaster1729 5 років тому +64

      @@benjaminferido413 But it would be so much fun

    • @ThisIsntAYoutuber
      @ThisIsntAYoutuber 5 років тому +87

      They don’t need to do that. They just need to buff Shedinja’s HP to 2 or 3, so it can survive one round of passive damage and do something before getting wrecked.

    • @AffyMoon
      @AffyMoon 4 роки тому +39

      @@ThisIsntAUA-camr that'd ruin sturdy shedinja though

  • @marchatanpaa2787
    @marchatanpaa2787 5 років тому +349

    Nincada was my first shiny, so I got 2 shinies for the price of one

    • @krymsun3134
      @krymsun3134 5 років тому +44

      Marc Hatanpaa i never even though about that. Lmao.
      This is beyond science

    • @yetiornot5726
      @yetiornot5726 5 років тому +23

      No, you got one shiny and a SLIGHTLY brighter Shedinja (his shiny is bullshit).

    • @Dz73zxxx
      @Dz73zxxx 4 роки тому +1

      Thats not the law of equivalent exchange...but we take those

  • @TrainerMooli
    @TrainerMooli 5 років тому +187

    Shedinja is the spy equivalent in stratego, I just realized. That’s pretty crazy!
    Edit: If you don’t get it, the spy piece in stratego can’t withstand any attack from the other pieces, but can take out the best piece if it attacks it first, like Shedinja in ubers

    • @inflatablemattress2
      @inflatablemattress2 5 років тому +13

      Bro no one in this generation knows what stratego is

    • @hiyashifalcion118
      @hiyashifalcion118 5 років тому +1

      Yeah I used shedinja, but that reference went completely past me

    • @scrungobeepis5443
      @scrungobeepis5443 5 років тому +8

      Man I remember stratego

    • @jameshuntington8644
      @jameshuntington8644 5 років тому +1

      Poké Trainer Mooli Thank you for bringing this into the world bro that game was part of an amazing childhood

    • @Luigiofthegods
      @Luigiofthegods 5 років тому +1

      Inflatable Mattress DS board game collection squad rise up

  • @Shin_FTW
    @Shin_FTW 5 років тому +450

    Shedinja's weak to enough common attacking types anyway; Wonder Guard should protect it from ANY and ALL types of damage, except super effective hits. No sand, no hail, no self-harm, no poison, no burn, no entry hazards, no Life Orb / Sticky Barb / Black Sludge, no recoil, no anything aside from attacks against it that say "It's super effective". Even then it wouldn't be too broken without some serious strategizing.
    C'mon Gamefreak.

    • @chaosryans
      @chaosryans 5 років тому +29

      Give it magic guard like Clefairy has as well as saying has to be super effective. Could hack a recycle magic guard focus scarf lol

    • @Shin_FTW
      @Shin_FTW 5 років тому +32

      I've hacked a Magic Guard Shedinja before. It was surprisingly effective with Focus Sash, Endeavor, Pursuit, Shadow Sneak, and Bullet Punch lol. I may have actually traded out Shadow Sneak for Recycle.
      It went with a Wonder Guard Sableye that had a Lum Berry with Taunt, Dragon Dance, Phantom/Shadow Force, and Close Combat.
      Also on the team was a No Guard Ninjask with Scope Lens, Sheer Cold, Stone Edge (for Sturdy Shuckle), Sacred Fire (for Sturdy Skarmory/Fortress), and Dynamicpunch (for Sturdy Bastiodon).
      Also I had a really creative set for my little nephew. I gave him a Timid Mew with max SpAtk and max Speed. Its ability was Wonder Guard, and it had Air Balloon, Thunderbolt, Conversion, Calm Mind, and Psyshock.
      Now, this was in gen 5, so Conversion just changed the Pokemon to a random type out of its moves instead of whatever move is in the first slot. But, Conversion can't pick itself or any type that the user already is, so that only left Thunderbolt, so it'd make Mew Electric, and since it had an Air Balloon, it had no weakness. Very few things could beat it as long as he made sure to use Conversion on it right away.
      I also gave him a Sheer Force Mewtwo with Life Orb, Psychic, Flamethrower (for Bug), Shadow Ball (for Ghost), and Signal Beam (for Dark), but the Mew was his fave lol.

    • @chaosryans
      @chaosryans 5 років тому +7

      @@Shin_FTW yeah thats fun. One we always talked about was just giving electross wonderguard and air balloon since he has such high offenses. Basically forces enemy to use trick or status.

    • @apdroidgeek1737
      @apdroidgeek1737 5 років тому +3

      It would be op though, i think for shedinja to be balanced they have to put hp on it

    • @meeko3877
      @meeko3877 5 років тому +12

      I think it was made like that so there could be some counter play even if you didn't plan for him. Like every team should have at least something to fight him with. Do i like it? Not really because ill accidentally kill my cinnamon roll with sandstorm and feel stupid

  • @SilverYPheonix
    @SilverYPheonix 5 років тому +512

    Don't hate on Shedinja, he's a precious ghost cinnamon roll and deserves to be protected.

    • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
      @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 5 років тому +41

      Considering his ability, he's pretty protected.

    • @natekite7532
      @natekite7532 5 років тому +22

      @@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor considering his tier, I think he needs more protection still

    • @lucasferro6050
      @lucasferro6050 5 років тому +22

      @@natekite7532 Considering his abilities of killing legendaries like Kyogre, Xerneas and the Lati twins, legendaries are the ones in need of protection if a cicada's ghost can beat them

    • @autusticrat
      @autusticrat 5 років тому +1

      Amen brother

    • @snowboundwhale6860
      @snowboundwhale6860 5 років тому +1

      *needs

  • @NanaKyoto
    @NanaKyoto 5 років тому +492

    And here I thought Shedinja was just a "novelty" Pokémon.

    • @praisehelix5235
      @praisehelix5235 5 років тому +61

      True but it's one of the novelties that can cause absolute butthurt if you play doubles. Soak shedinja is absolutely hilarious to play, assuming you get rid of grass or electric threats.

    • @shirshanyaroy287
      @shirshanyaroy287 5 років тому +22

      It was a novelty pokemon. It was just a somewhat effective novelty if you knew how to use it.

    • @Luckytarianism
      @Luckytarianism 5 років тому +15

      @@praisehelix5235 Holy crap, that is pure evil. I'm going to try this pretty soon here.

    • @praisehelix5235
      @praisehelix5235 5 років тому +10

      @@Luckytarianism smogon players hate him, people with at least 2 brain cells love him find out how 1 terrible Pokemon makes players take sledgehammer to there 3DS.

    • @madman4043
      @madman4043 5 років тому +1

      @@praisehelix5235 Lmao what? That setup might be one of the worst in all of doubles. It wastes turns, it's obvious, and it barely works until it's ENTIRELY done.
      If you're looking for non-novelty shedinja, look no further than the wonder trio stall team.

  • @thebluethunder9301
    @thebluethunder9301 4 роки тому +290

    Ninjask: a fast boi that gets more speed in every turn
    Shedninja: a untouchable dud
    Nincada: a bug pokemon.

    • @pyprod.
      @pyprod. 3 роки тому +14

      Shedinja is actually where Nincada's Electric immunity went when it evolved.

  • @raikazuchi2516
    @raikazuchi2516 5 років тому +734

    I always name my Shedinja Motoko. Y'know, because it's a ghost...in a shell.
    C'mon, that's funny.

  • @swallow_skyla3602
    @swallow_skyla3602 5 років тому +724

    1. Shedinja gets buffed to 2 HP
    2. All damage that does a fraction of 100% to it is rounded down to 1 after truncation
    3. Hold item: Leftovers
    4. Smogon bans Shedinja to AG
    Me: *raughs*

    • @chaosryans
      @chaosryans 5 років тому +79

      The day i used a whole bunch of stat boosting items to try increasing the hp. Thats 100 evs and it definitely showed

    • @snowboundwhale6860
      @snowboundwhale6860 5 років тому +52

      it breaks sash and sturdinja though, so leftovers would be a necessity; 2hp leftovers sturdinja on the other hand

    • @chaosryans
      @chaosryans 5 років тому +59

      @@matthewchen8452 hes talking about things like spikes that deal a percent so you can actually send it out

    • @SashaSlvt
      @SashaSlvt 5 років тому +1

      Snowbound Whale knock off

    • @batatino8805
      @batatino8805 5 років тому

      toxic

  • @LunaMinuna
    @LunaMinuna 4 роки тому +437

    Shedinja:Steals souls of people looking at its back
    Your Trainer:Doesn’t blink or react.
    Me:Hmmmmmmmm

  • @oofjeff3735
    @oofjeff3735 5 років тому +57

    Shedninja is every extreme nuzlockers nightmare

    • @doremysweet860
      @doremysweet860 5 років тому +6

      for me it was delcatty, who got wonder guard... and got different type combination.

    • @kwayke9
      @kwayke9 5 років тому +1

      @@doremysweet860 imagine it was ghost/dark... before gen 6 (inb4 this is actually the case)

    • @doremysweet860
      @doremysweet860 5 років тому +1

      @@kwayke9 it was Steel/Poison, but at that point i didnt have any ground and fire attacks, so i just caught it with cheats...(Aaron had it as a lead pokemon)

    • @Evildandalo
      @Evildandalo 5 років тому

      Kwayke Reminds me of my buddy who traded me a hacked Sableye with wonder guard that just couldn’t take any damage since it had no weaknesses lol

    • @doremysweet860
      @doremysweet860 5 років тому

      @@Evildandalo it still can take passive damage, so Roar+Hazards works.

  • @TheSylveonSurfer
    @TheSylveonSurfer 5 років тому +98

    Remember the days when people would hack Wonder Guard onto Sableye or Spiritomb? Those were the good ol' days xD

    • @electrikviolinresh
      @electrikviolinresh 5 років тому +9

      But for some reason fire fang still worked on them

    • @RFE812
      @RFE812 5 років тому +2

      Vooia doesn’t Mold Breaker ignore Wonder Guard?

    • @electrikviolinresh
      @electrikviolinresh 5 років тому

      @@RFE812 Yes it does

  • @FirstLastname604
    @FirstLastname604 Рік тому +15

    Mega Rayquaza was so good that it got banned from the banlist
    Gen 9 Shedinja is so good that it dismantled said tier completely

    • @butteredsalmonella
      @butteredsalmonella Рік тому +1

      I wonder if Slow (Fun)bro is worse or Tera Shedinja is. The former got banned from the unrestricted tier while the latter turned the unrestricted tier defunct.

  • @TrueSpider-Man
    @TrueSpider-Man 4 роки тому +146

    *Shedinja vs the most powerful Pokemon*
    Dialga: *ROAR OF TIME*
    Shedinja: Time is just an illusion..
    Palkia: *SPACIAL REND*
    Shedinja: You cannot create or destroy matter. Get your physics together.
    Giratina: *SHADOW FORCE*
    Shedinja: I might be a ghost... *but I still don't believe in ghosts...*
    Arceus: *JUDGEMENT*
    Shedinja: I'm atheist...

    • @TrueSpider-Man
      @TrueSpider-Man 4 роки тому +15

      @@randomuser3260 NO! Shhhhhhh!

    • @determineddaaf3
      @determineddaaf3 4 роки тому +4

      @@randomuser3260 Not with prote- wait.

    • @Harmless_Music
      @Harmless_Music 4 роки тому +12

      Phantom Force was attained in a later gen, which does allow it to avoid Shadow Force by moving second and being untargettable. Requires the read of Shadow Force to begin with, but pretty funny strat all things considered

    • @TrueSpider-Man
      @TrueSpider-Man 3 роки тому

      @Ian_Choi 20261121 Couldn't think of a joke for him

    • @hypergolden6469
      @hypergolden6469 3 роки тому

      *Giratina use Shadow Force*
      Shedinja: wait let me just *Protect*

  • @verbalengine95
    @verbalengine95 5 років тому +199

    Mega Shedinja: now it has 2 HP!

    • @chaosryans
      @chaosryans 5 років тому +43

      Suddenly has a niche with curse and leftovers.

    • @ZenoDLC
      @ZenoDLC 5 років тому +44

      @@chaosryans A mega with held item? What is that? A Rayquaza?

    • @chaosryans
      @chaosryans 5 років тому +37

      @@ZenoDLC mega shedinja is kind of permanent evolution when you level it up to 69 with an open team slot and a master ball.

    • @gulgaffel
      @gulgaffel 5 років тому +28

      mega shedinja: gets sturdy

    • @BladeOfLight16
      @BladeOfLight16 5 років тому +4

      48 HP. Divisible by all the fractions that affect HP (I think), so hazards and status aren't instant death anymore, but they and super effective moves can still take it out.

  • @lbfrank5204
    @lbfrank5204 5 років тому +31

    Whenever I see Shedinja I remember this one Battle SIM battle in XD: Gale of Darkness where you kill 6 of them in one turn by using Spikes and Sandstorm.

  • @num488
    @num488 5 років тому +11

    It's pokemon like these that continues to make me smile. And honestly I'm glad there are crazy souls in VGC that try using them.

  • @honestshao6160
    @honestshao6160 5 років тому +13

    I remember that in Gen 6, there was a classic stall team used Shedinja, mega sableye and Dugtrio as its core members. Shedinja truly had some influence in gen 6 OU metagame

  • @Templas100
    @Templas100 4 роки тому +46

    I remember when my friends used to hack wonder guard on legendaries and flex on me constantly during battles. I am talking full on uber teams with wonder guard during gen 4. It was so annoying but also funny how they actually thought that they had any battling skills whatsoever.

  • @TheMyuken
    @TheMyuken 5 років тому +85

    In the meantime in Hackmons :
    Sturdinja rules

    • @bustacs2
      @bustacs2 5 років тому +6

      Sturdy Shedinja omegalul

    • @mr.krustykrust
      @mr.krustykrust 4 роки тому +3

      Adaptability Mega Mewtwo X

    • @N12015
      @N12015 4 роки тому +8

      A decent Regigigas with poison heal and Facade.

    • @-KnightOfTheWind
      @-KnightOfTheWind 4 роки тому

      Zekrom:What?

    • @Drakorre
      @Drakorre 4 роки тому +1

      Huge Power regigigas

  • @eldritchdefender7785
    @eldritchdefender7785 4 роки тому +31

    Shedninja: the only Pokemon who is only viable in ubers

  • @PineapplePineapplePineapplePin
    @PineapplePineapplePineapplePin 4 роки тому +84

    Heavy Duty Boots: "Need some help fam?"

    • @riccardopelino
      @riccardopelino 4 роки тому +3

      Safety googles, lum berry: "are we a joke to you?"

    • @grantflippin7808
      @grantflippin7808 3 роки тому +10

      @@riccardopelino yes, rocks/spikes completely invalides the best Shedinja strategy, not dieing.

    • @riccardopelino
      @riccardopelino 3 роки тому +1

      @@grantflippin7808 how about Shedinja lead?

    • @grantflippin7808
      @grantflippin7808 3 роки тому +7

      @@riccardopelino that may work, but Shedinja is at it's strongest when you emphasize longevity by carefully switching in and out to gain advantage. (Talking strictly about Ubers)

    • @riccardopelino
      @riccardopelino 3 роки тому +2

      @@grantflippin7808 Like swithching in on a Psyshock choise specs calyrex shadow raider. How about defog or rapid spin?

  • @edsbegaming507
    @edsbegaming507 Рік тому +17

    Im surprised nobody has considered running the fabled life orb shedninja. The increase in damage really makes a difference!

    • @jamesgiles4517
      @jamesgiles4517 Рік тому +1

      No no no
      Black sludge shedinja is better because it can recover hp

    • @mrtrollnator123
      @mrtrollnator123 9 місяців тому

      ​@@jamesgiles4517😂😂😂😂

    • @ChristmasPterodactyl
      @ChristmasPterodactyl 4 місяці тому

      Since Shedinja is very fragile, it should run Sticky Barb so as to keep dealing damage after fainting.

  • @Poondaedalin
    @Poondaedalin 5 років тому +34

    Here's an interesting concept for a video: "How GOOD was Hidden Power ACTUALLY?" You've mentioned the move dozens of times over the course of these videos, citing it as a versatile and powerful move in most respects. An in-depth analysis on the move could be quite interesting.

    • @oodogla
      @oodogla 3 роки тому +1

      Hidden power is suck a great move, I guess the lady in fortree city was right.

    • @may1101
      @may1101 2 роки тому +1

      There is no Hidden Power

    • @Poondaedalin
      @Poondaedalin 2 роки тому +7

      @@may1101 There is no Hidden Power in Ba Sing Se

  • @josephbreeden4912
    @josephbreeden4912 3 роки тому +21

    Shedinja was always my favorite bug type, it was unique and weird and I sympathized with that

  • @daddyrobin4628
    @daddyrobin4628 5 років тому +169

    Me:*reads it’s Pokédex entry* wow creepy but interesting
    *i send it into battle later*
    Me:ohh hell nahh!!
    Shedinja:LOOK AT IT!!!!

  • @danielbakergill
    @danielbakergill 5 років тому +23

    I started in gen 3, and was equally fascinated and disappointed by Shedinja. I'm thrilled to hear that it has gone on to do wonderful things in the meantime. Good bug.

  • @FrigatesOnIce
    @FrigatesOnIce Рік тому +12

    It comes full circle with shedinja (and Assist cats) making nat dex anything goes so unplayable that it's not longer a proper tier

  • @deltalord6969
    @deltalord6969 5 років тому +187

    Shouldve gotten sturdy as a hidden ability.
    Also anyone else used to use shednija against kyogre in sapphire?

    • @mrinfinity5557
      @mrinfinity5557 5 років тому +41

      Oh absolutely not. Sturdy shedinja is a fairly op thing

    • @jozefkeresturi2139
      @jozefkeresturi2139 5 років тому +19

      @@mrinfinity5557 will of wisp,toxic

    • @1AMdoesSomething
      @1AMdoesSomething 5 років тому +27

      In Balanced Hackmons Sturdy Shedinja Counters include Moves that Ignore Abilities and Weather Burns and Toxic

    • @SpecterPaladin
      @SpecterPaladin 5 років тому +45

      @@mrinfinity5557 in a metagame full of stealth rocks and status conditions, I'd say it'd be pretty balanced

    • @mr.krustykrust
      @mr.krustykrust 5 років тому +6

      That’s why on my BH team, I carry Photon Geyser on my Adaptability Mega Mewtwo X, and Sunsteel Strike on my Steelworker Kartana

  • @randompersononytig
    @randompersononytig Рік тому +6

    Fun fact: The defense stats from Nincada are split between Shedinja and Ninjask. Which makes sense as it is losing its shell, which makes it lose all that protection for the shell and puts it on Shedinja

  • @CaptainJLinebeck
    @CaptainJLinebeck 2 роки тому +9

    Shedinja has a good niche in Gen 8 OU stall as the only Pokemon immune to Volt Switch/Flip Turn/U-turn, greatly limiting the momentum of teams that rely on those moves, not to mention having Heavy Duty Boots to negate the entry hazards as well as Pursuit being removed and Knock Off having much less distribution.
    It also had a great niche in Gen 8 Ubers for walling both Zacian forms before they were banned.

  • @kylemckell7653
    @kylemckell7653 5 років тому +45

    I'm sad that Shed Stall never got mentioned. That team terrorized OU against underprepared teams, which were many

    • @marceloSSJ
      @marceloSSJ 5 років тому +5

      pre baton pass ban

    • @kylemckell7653
      @kylemckell7653 5 років тому +4

      @@marceloSSJ didn't even need baton pass. But baton pass is very good on sheddy

  • @Strixer-gk2kz
    @Strixer-gk2kz 5 років тому +243

    Ditto placed first at a tournament???
    HOW GOOD WAS DITTO ACTUALLY!!!!!?????

    • @N12015
      @N12015 5 років тому +26

      In first 4 gens useless. From gen 5 onwards, he was like Quagsire: useful in every single tier like a niche pick, and especially good in Ubers, Monotype and maybe OU, for countering sweepers.

    • @richi5291
      @richi5291 5 років тому +22

      It was bad until he got his hidden hability

    • @edermachado2844
      @edermachado2844 5 років тому +14

      Imposter Choice Scarf Ditto fucked me up more times than I would have liked back in BW OU

    • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
      @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 5 років тому +1

      We'll never gey Ditto. I've been begging for ages.

    • @wingedmirage4226
      @wingedmirage4226 5 років тому +1

      Drew Armstrong, The Glorious Lobster Emperor I dunno, April Fools is kinda a perfect holiday for it XD
      Though the first week is always Patreon pick, maybe we can really push for it for April?

  • @AzuroTemplar
    @AzuroTemplar Рік тому +7

    It happend bois! Shedinja went from Untiered to AG! 🦀🦀🦀

  • @Tine_of_Nice_Dreams
    @Tine_of_Nice_Dreams 5 років тому +4

    Shedinja was always one of my favorites just for how unique it is (and the design is so neat, I love the ghost/angel wings on a spooky and cute little bug). Thanks for this one!

  • @sevenpheonix3293
    @sevenpheonix3293 5 років тому +22

    Sturdy shedinja:
    *Laughs in almost invincible*

  • @francisharkins
    @francisharkins 4 роки тому +17

    I trolled someone before with a Shedninja by using a second pokemon with Double team and baton pass. It was pretty funny.

  • @DrumRug
    @DrumRug 5 років тому +64

    Shedinja didn't see success with fans?
    But... but I love Shedinja!

    • @coolguy02536
      @coolguy02536 5 років тому

      If you love Shedinja so much why don't you marry him?

    • @chaosryans
      @chaosryans 5 років тому +12

      I tried marrying shedinja, and that gaping hole is like throwing a sausage down a well.

  • @Copyrightbreaker22
    @Copyrightbreaker22 5 років тому +12

    I remember when I was younger training my nincada and finally evolving it and looking in my box seeing shedinja and thinking... When did I catch this.

  • @ThaLedg
    @ThaLedg 5 років тому +183

    Alright let's talk about the most interesting VGC winning pokemon ever
    How good was Pachirisu actually?

  • @consoleking9670
    @consoleking9670 5 років тому +72

    I don’t know about you guys but shedninja terrified me as a kid. Still kinda does

    • @fulgenzio89
      @fulgenzio89 5 років тому +8

      Nathan Frantz it appears in your team from nowhere. Truly creepy bug.

    • @swallow_skyla3602
      @swallow_skyla3602 5 років тому +1

      It suddenly appearing in your party terrified me as a kid. The half-shut "dead eyes" made it even creepier.

    • @chrishale7480
      @chrishale7480 5 років тому +1

      I went up against it in the Battle Factory in Emerald and I was royally screwed ‘cause I had no idea how Wonder Guard worked. That put me off of returning for a while.

    • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
      @shytendeakatamanoir9740 5 років тому

      Well, since according to the Pokédex, using it will literally steal your soul, you have every reason to be terrified.
      That and the fact it's literally a zombie.

  • @mr.krustykrust
    @mr.krustykrust 5 років тому +20

    The BH god himself, along side Chansey and Mega Rayquaza. Nothing beats landing a Photon Geyser from a Mega Mewtwo X on an unsuspecting new player who thinks they can just win with Endeavor Sturdy Shedinja

    • @camoking3605
      @camoking3605 5 років тому +2

      My BY game:
      Enemy sends out shedinja
      Switch into epseon
      Shedinja uses endeavor
      Epseon on 1 hp
      Shedinja uses shadow sneak
      *Espeon's dazzling protected it from shadow sneak!
      Moongiest beam

    • @Annadog40
      @Annadog40 5 років тому

      @@camoking3605 You'd never counter my ability swap truant shedninja

    • @camoking3605
      @camoking3605 5 років тому

      @@Annadog40 now see, I built epseon for sturdy Shedinja, that would get me

    • @Annadog40
      @Annadog40 5 років тому +1

      @@camoking3605 I called it the spanish inquisition

  • @eonshade6297
    @eonshade6297 5 років тому +6

    Shedinja is an interesting Pokemon. I've seen someone use it really well with baton pass support

  • @bsharpmajorscale
    @bsharpmajorscale 5 років тому +16

    Anyway, here's Wonder Guard.

  • @sam3oq980
    @sam3oq980 5 років тому +5

    I wish Wonder Guard would also block residue damage, unless it's from the type the pokemon's weak against. That way Shedinja wouldn't be instantly killed be Spikes, Sandstorm (both ground), Toxic (poison) or Hail (ice). However it'd still be weak to Stealth Rocks (rock) or Burn status (fire). It's broken, but at least it wouldn't make Shedinja completely useless.

  • @bigblueblob8766
    @bigblueblob8766 5 років тому +7

    I remember accidentaly getting shedinja as a kid when I evolved my nincada because for some reason I had empty party space, I was mindblown!!!

  • @elliegray8184
    @elliegray8184 5 років тому +6

    Wonder Guard on a pokemon that had real stats (and so didn't auto-die to ANY damage) would be OP, but really all that means is... It goes to Ubers and just gets one-shot by something with the proper coverage or a Mold Breaker type effect. They're becoming more common and coverage just becomes wider and wider with each generation, so... Honestly unless the pokemon also had incredible stats and/or a killer moveset, Wonder Guard alone on an otherwise average pokemon wouldn't ruin the game. It *could* unbalance single player though, if they weren't careful.

    • @chaosryans
      @chaosryans 5 років тому

      Magic guard is a cool ability too avoids any damage except attacks. Status, weather, recoil, and entry hazards all null. And could be pretty breaking for a lot of pokes too.

    • @tycoonraptor7052
      @tycoonraptor7052 3 роки тому

      Shedninja already breaks single player if you're able to use proper prediction

  • @dakotastein9499
    @dakotastein9499 3 роки тому +6

    I always liked this line simply due to how unique it is...seeing as far as I know nincada is the only pokemon that evolves into two pokemon at once.

  • @bucketofcalzones457
    @bucketofcalzones457 2 роки тому +3

    Shedinja having a gimmick by functioning as a guardian angel that intervenes to save allies is great flavor wise.

  • @GreatDG
    @GreatDG Рік тому +5

    Terra-Electric type shedinja with air balloon is banned from OU

  • @LuDogg805
    @LuDogg805 5 років тому +55

    I always hated how Shedinja has defense stats, they should be 0 only to make it somewhat good.

    • @Neptune_1337
      @Neptune_1337 4 роки тому +3

      But substitute Is Useless about that!

    • @hakimi8091
      @hakimi8091 4 роки тому +12

      Maybe it refrence to Nincada Line. Nincada have 90 defense and when it evolve,Ninjask got 45 defense...

    • @xyzzy-dv6te
      @xyzzy-dv6te 4 роки тому +5

      Maybe it's because of Ditto and substitute

    • @oodogla
      @oodogla 3 роки тому +10

      Its because shedninja's stats are just the same as nincada's but 1 HP and the defense and attack swapped.

  • @esqimo6647
    @esqimo6647 4 роки тому +19

    8:10 Why would you give shedinja x scissor? Give it Leech life, the extra healing is really helpful

    • @xyzzy-dv6te
      @xyzzy-dv6te 4 роки тому +10

      You also want life orb, that extra power can make a difference

    • @Darkerooz
      @Darkerooz 4 роки тому +2

      @@xyzzy-dv6tewith the other move being final gambit.

    • @mavanachhakchhuak8198
      @mavanachhakchhuak8198 4 роки тому +3

      Leech life and life orb on shedninja is too op to be allowed

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 4 роки тому +4

      Oh, don't forget about Flail! It's always at 1HP so this move _has_ to be at max power!

  • @amkirby10
    @amkirby10 5 років тому +8

    I was hoping we'd get to hear about Balanced Hackmons on FSG

  • @genkaiba15
    @genkaiba15 5 років тому +20

    I think they should buff wonder guard to resist statuses and hazards. It would be a lot more interesting if you HAD to use a move it was weak to.

    • @jordanious7711
      @jordanious7711 5 років тому +5

      tbf its weak to rock attacks so at minimum stealth rocks SHOULD kill it.

    • @uandresbrito5685
      @uandresbrito5685 5 років тому +3

      Stealth Rocks is still passive damage

    • @chaosryans
      @chaosryans 5 років тому +1

      Someone basically listed magic coat/guard whatever skill Clefairy gets fused with wonderguard. Would certainly be interesting.

    • @jordanious7711
      @jordanious7711 5 років тому +2

      @@chaosryans theres a bs strat in doubles UU where people use Alolan Muk with balloon and then use his hidden ability "power of alchemy" to copy wonder guard. Muk is dark Dark/Poison and with balloon has no weaknesses + cant be poisoned. It's almost impossible to kill.. It's typical gimmick strat.

    • @uandresbrito5685
      @uandresbrito5685 5 років тому +1

      Magic Guard + Wonder Guard would create the strongest Pokémon ever. Shedinja however, wouldn't be so broken because of Mold Breaker, 1 HP, poor status and bad typing.

  • @carprincess
    @carprincess 5 років тому +2

    I loved that little ghost bug! Glad to see it’s getting more use now

  • @plabcentral630
    @plabcentral630 3 роки тому +6

    I really want to see this remade and be like 2 minutes longer

  • @zanwrightmfwr756
    @zanwrightmfwr756 2 роки тому +3

    Me when nuzlocking: Oh no, I have to fight Kyogre what do I do?!
    My Shedinja in the box: Bonjour

  • @sarasattler5269
    @sarasattler5269 5 років тому +3

    I had some small success with a fun themed lineup where I used shedinja with zoroark for some fun head games (also had toxicroak on the team for switchups to keep people guessing)
    Vs AIs especially it made the changeover from when zoroark's illusion worked on AIs to when it didn't really noticeable, lol

  • @olbluelips
    @olbluelips 5 років тому +6

    He's hilarious to have as one of the possible three on a 1v1 team, even as just a mind game :)

  • @mr.supersonicultra9131
    @mr.supersonicultra9131 2 роки тому +4

    The only way to use Shedinja's second highest stat is to use transform with mew or ditto

  • @YawnBlue
    @YawnBlue 5 років тому +11

    Best use for Shedinja... laughing as a low level one slowly chips away at the Kyogre you're trying to catches health.

    • @oodogla
      @oodogla 3 роки тому +1

      Even better when you use a single level 20 shedinja and beat Wallace/Juan by spamming fury cutter because he can't hurt you haha. Had a good time doing that in Pokemon ruby.

  • @stingrayazz1815
    @stingrayazz1815 5 років тому +23

    Do Staraptor. It’s interesting to talk about since it was the only Pokemon to ever be BL for every Gen.

  • @harrisonbolt6599
    @harrisonbolt6599 4 роки тому +7

    Just play a doubles battle and use an Audino and a Carbink to get Shedinja the sturdy ability and paralyze it so it cannot be burned or poisoned. Make sure Shedinja is holding safety googles for sandstorm and hail weather. Turn 1: Audino uses protect and carbink uses trick room. Turn 2 Audino uses heal pulse on Carbink to heal it if it was attacked and Carbink uses shill swap on Audino. Turn 3 switch out Carbink with Shedinja using entrainment on it will allow it to obtain the sturdy ability. Turn 4 use thunder wave with Audino on shedinja so it cannot again be poisoned or burned. Turn 5 Shedinja uses hone claws to boost it’s attack and accuracy. Turn 6 Start the sweep :D

    • @FraserSouris
      @FraserSouris 4 роки тому

      Seems way too gimmicky to pull off consistently

    • @YOSSARIAN313
      @YOSSARIAN313 2 роки тому

      Then incineroar taunts you and you lose

  • @a-10warthog72
    @a-10warthog72 4 роки тому +2

    It can be an empty party slot sometimes, but still one of my favorite Pokémon ever. It's like the Pokémon I would like to leave out of it's pokéball wherever I'd go. I'm always hoping for it to become immune to status/weather and only be hit by direct supereffective moves...

  • @genericprofile2381
    @genericprofile2381 5 років тому +5

    Shedinja: Hey im gonna use-
    any pokemon with a fire move: *vibe check*

  • @HardcoreSuperNoob
    @HardcoreSuperNoob 5 років тому +4

    I used Shedinja in Ubers singles in Gen6 with great success. Consistently getting to 1600 with it. It walled primal Kyogre and Xerneas completely and using Baton Pass it was the best pivot in the tier.

    • @petelee2477
      @petelee2477 5 років тому

      Watch shedinja run into the one hidden power rock xerneas(for ho oh)lol

    • @HardcoreSuperNoob
      @HardcoreSuperNoob 5 років тому

      @@petelee2477 That happened yes but that's why it carried focus sash and you would baton pass right out anyway.

  • @communismwithgiggles2515
    @communismwithgiggles2515 5 років тому +7

    I once looked through the back of Shedinja in my Pokedex, then my Wi-Fi disconnected.

  • @lisanguyen673
    @lisanguyen673 5 років тому +9

    4:17 The most elegant, fluid Arceus walking animation I've ever seen

    • @xyzzy-dv6te
      @xyzzy-dv6te 4 роки тому

      I hope SwSh will have amazing animatio... Oh wait