I'm going to speak in defense of Arms, namely the fact that we have a proc called "Tactician" for a reason, because that's what they are. They're the warriors that wait for the opportune moment to strike, and as you said, hit like a truck. You can get some dang fine talent builds with Arms too, and in dungeons you can easily top the DPS charts if you know what you're doing, and it's fun to do. One of the biggest joys for me with the class is going batshit insane during the last 20% of a boss's health, popping Battle Cry and Avatar, and then spamming Execute. Arms warriors are a bust class with fairly short cooldowns. The bread and butter of the Arms rotation is Colossus Smash > Focused Rage > Mortal Strike. You only need to use it once in most cases. You can also alternate Slam > Focused Rage > Slam > Focused Rage > Slam > Focused Rage when Battle Cry is active, since with the proper talent, both are free. Pop a Colossus Smash > Mortal Strike and you'll hit like a freight train. And when it comes to multi-target fights, we still have options. Cleave and Whirlwind are your best friends, along with the Warbreaker Artifact Ability. If you've got five or more tough targets around you, the best thing to do is Battle Cry > Avatar > Wabreaker > Bladestorm, wherein you become a whirling blender of death and destruction. But I can see why you might not like it. We can't spam our filler like Fury and Protection, which can bring your mental momentum to a screeching halt if you go to slam but have no rage, but if you're playing properly this usually isn't a problem. I don't think there's a "best" warrior spec, nor do I think there's a "worst". Frankly it's all up to personal preference, and all are frightening contenders IMO. Fury will come at you in a steady rage, and they're just downright dangerous with their talents and abilities. Meanwhile Arms can quickly burst people down while still having a moderate amount of sustain, especially with artifact talents, second wind, etc. And then you have Prot, who can almost laugh off anything that's thrown at then save for heavily magic based bosses like Star Augur. You ever see a duel between two Prot Warriors? It's like to lions made of iron going at it, and it is a thing of beauty.
Really like these videos! Looking forward to seeing the other classes! :) Currently got three classes I am choosing between when I decide what my "dedicated" alt will be. Either Fire mage, Frost DK or Havoc DH as it stands atm. So your videos couldn't have come with better timing tbh! Really nice to get some good feedback like this on different classes and specs that I can take into account before I decide :)
Kudos, Bellular, for a great informational video. I main a Prot warrior (Arms as pvp) and your video showed me some insight to Fury. I think I'll try it out!
Started to play my Warrior again after a LONG hiatus; which was from Vanilla. Playing Prot right now and still leveling (105) but I am enjoying it so far. Normally I play healer on my main , so defiantly a new experience for me.
For Arms warrior, If you take the talent that increases the damage of Whirlwind to your primary target, Fervor I think it's called, You can replace slam with Whirlwind as your main rage spender. This also makes the ability Cleave more prominent in your rotation.
I've played an arms warrior exclusively pve for about 6+ years now. with legion, I find it's mostly balancing Colossus Smash procs with overpower and execute phases. it's very rythmic once you get into it. I can see how someone would like more excitement in their builds, but I like it because I can still look around the map, get out of fire, and throw a few stuns.
I'm going to give advice I wish I had when I created and maxed my warrior. The 3 specs have different playstyles and It's highly recommended you stick to one. Fury is the one I mained, from what I know, prior to 110 It may be a pain during questing at times due to the amount of damage you receive and the difficulty of soloing elite bosses, but It's definitely one of the most fun and powerful classes (once geared). Arms is terrific too. Safer, stronger most of the time (not my a significant margin). Though a lot of it's gameplay may seem boring. So if you're someone who does not enjoy waiting to repeat a cycle of abilities and waiting for cooldowns, it's probably not the best for you. I have no clue about how protection works, I've never tanked. If someone wants add to this. Good luck! Don't be deterred for fury because it gets hard in Legion/Pandaria. Once geared it's amazingly fun and strong.
As a Warrior main who is primarily Fury and has Prot as their off spec, I'd describe them as simple, yet effective. They aren't overly flashy, but they get the job done. And from my experience, holy shit are they fun.
I NEVER thought I would be a warrior main. I had a lvl 100 of every class except warrior and monk and then I took a break for a few years. I came back about a week ago and with my BFA preorder I got a 110 boost. I thought I was going to play warlock and began lvling it figuring it would be smarter to lvl and relearn the class. I got pretty damn bored about halfway through and ended up boosting a warrior because someone mentioned that a good way to have fun again was to pick a class that was opposite what you were used to. 5 days in and I absolutely LOVE my arms warrior! I had never played a warrior before because I didn't find the "fantasy" compelling, but after playing the class it doesn't matter. The mobility is so fun. I imagine myself as a Cloud or Guts-like warrior who is fighting demons with just a blade and taking them down.
IMO for prot the ideal setup right now is lego gloves and ring (the walls fell), in combination with 30% haste and devastator talent. That's where you really see prot start to shine. If you can manage devastator talent well, not only will you see a noticeable damage/healing/suviveability increase, but the spec also starts to become more fluid and the rotation smooths out with fewer wasted GCDs.
I'm playing an Arms warrior and I lost it when you mentioned "it's kind of like marmite, some people do seem to love it". And I happen to love to put some marmite on my cheese (try it!) :)
For anyone playing prot warrior, please use devestator, the only time you would ever specc something different would be if you get oneshot and there is no other way other than indomitable. You get rewarded having skill and experience in this specc using devestator. Imagine a tank that doesnt need a healer most of the time and deals damage equal to or sometimes more than the worse dps in your raid. But you have the potential to die almost instantly if you fuck up
Hardly ever comment on anything... but i have to say i'm really enjoying this series and gets me excited to try out some classes i'd never given any thought to! :)
I main Arms, I love my arms but I honestly use them both with them being really close in terms of artifact power but I got a fury legendary (after 8 months of farming) so I am forced to main fury ;3
fresh 110 warrior, ESPECIALLY fury, was painful. but as you mention, gearing in 7.2 is pretty darn quick so it wouldn't be nearly as bad now as it was a month or so from Legion's release. Fury is fun as hell!
You left out one of the major dps increases to arms warrior which is the weapon trait "executioners precision" when paired with Ayala's ring, I've hit over 5million damage mortal strikes.
7:12 Average arms warrior with half decent has more than 50% Mastery , so it's 15% (plus around 50% via mastery) . Also if you have the Titanic Might talent you have a 6 seconds window without colossus smash , but it stays for 24 seconds so a long time to get a proc .
Depends alot on your gear. I main a fury warrior and atm my stats go Mastery>Haste>Vers>Strength>Crit. It's all about how your current gear is as fury warrior :)
well, I finally got to 110 on my warrior and I'm playing both dps specs and I'm enjoying it. To me arms feels more "tankish" than fury but I do like both so I work on both. Arms damage depends very much on colossus reset but it's easy to keep my health bar full. Fury is more simple but doesn't heal myself as well.
I have not played Warrior since MoP, and well I have to say it and Rogue were the only class i could play and call my main. It's been a few Xpacs last I touched Warrior, I'm hopping to rehash my love for this class.
Was leveling a Warrior when this was uploaded. :D I like playing arms on my human warrior, because i am a big lotr fan. (and i think Aragorn is really cool!)
The big problem with focusing on the teleport for the order hall bonuses is that it's currently unreliable. About 25% of the time I find myself dumped unceremoniously in the northwestern corner of Azsuna, down to half held from fall damage and nowhere near where I was trying to go. I'd say a bigger perk is that it's one of the classes that lets you use the orderhall upgrade to instantly complete a world quest.
I didn't watch the video yet, so maybe my opinion will change, but I restarted playing last week as a Fury Warrior and I'm having a hell of a good time. Level 56 already due to time constraints, life and such, but I don't see a problem if there is one. I'll comment again after the video.
Hey dude sorry to ask here but do you have any addon video for legion ? i like your warrior ui but i cant find any infos in your videos. if i remember right you said you using some addon pack you create.
Honestly I find fury a tad basic in the rotation and the down time is really painful waiting for CD (only like 40 seconds tops) but still. Arms I actually find really fullfilling to play with the Focus Rage talent and personally I would say is the best single target spec for a challenge vs feeling good over coming it wise. That being said I do find most PvE players prefer to not have a spec that pushes your attention limit. If you liked old windwalker or old boomy you'll like new Arms. That being said Arms big fall out is in battleground pvp. The one thing that keeps me coming back to Fury over Arms is the AoE snare fury has. It allows some solid melee kiting and you can catch range kiting you much easier. That isn't even taking into account Fury's increased mobility. That being said Arms is probably better with a consistent reliable team in 2's and 3's rated as it still does have Die By the Sword which fury doesn't and arenas is more of a CD war. Prot War is meh go with it if you want a relaxing spec like Guardian Druid but don't want to be a furry. Personally I enjoy Monk and Dh tank more as I feel like they keep me engaged by having to use CDs.
The structure of going through a spec could be improved. you go through core styles but also jump around in the talents/possible builds. Only downside for splitting that would be longer runtime.
i will say that, if you enjoy the holy pally dps rotation, arms is really fun, they play in a very similar way (regardless of how odd that may sound) lol
Absolutely on point !! I love my fury warrior and this is 100% true (well almost for me xD ) I would also like to know what is your UI and Addons, looks really clean and good, exactly what i need
When reading the spell names for arms, I keep thinking the artifact weapon should have been a mace. Slam, smash, strike, etc. The abilities would probably feel more weighty with a huge ass hammer.
actually I think raging blow is better without the talent that makes it not need enrage to be required. its because with enough haste you can use raging blow 4 times in a row but the talent makes it go on cooldown so you cant spam it
They absolutely butchered the Warrior lore in my opinion. Went way too far with generic Viking tropes and completely ruined characters which had been a part of Warcraft lore for nearly 20 years, like Eitrigg
Lore aside. Since when Warriors are a Vrykul wannabe? Let us join a battlefield, build a camp in the middle of it and let us steal enemy moun to charge on it to battle! Not fckn punch Odyn's dragon in a face and be applaused by Vrykuls.. Warrior "identity" is really lame. Esspecially Order Hall, it is just reskinned dungeon.
Bleach, wait till you will have a quest for your class mount. Exacly, warriors are just grunts. We are not Vrykul, for whom it is honor to be there. It makes no sense that we are Odyn's champions, it would made more sense if we raided it and took it as ours. To hell with Vrykul lore as Warrior's. Have you seen Dk order hall? Or Shammy? Palladin's? Locks? Warrior one just lack the imagination and verve, it is basically halls of valor with little edit. It is the worst order hall from all my alts, by far.
"Lo, there do I see my father, Lo, there do I see my mother, And my sister and my brother, Lo, there do I see the line of my people, Back to the beginning, Lo, they do call to me, They bid me take my place among them, In the halls of Valhalla, Where the brave may live forever!" - The XIII Warrior "To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!" - Conan This & Gutz from Bersek is why I play a Warrior, do not get me wrong I love my Paladin, but I just have a lot of Rage that I need to cut loose one in a while & nothing say bad ass lile heavy armored clad giant armed to the teeth with some huge weapons smashing faces & taking names!
The reason why arms is so clunky and bad to play is because of it's rage regeneration, which you forgot to mention. Arms only generates rage from autoattacks, and the amount it gives is wayyy too little. On top of that, if you dont play with focused rage. You have no way to dump your rage, which either means you can have 0 rage or too much rage. It plays very clunky and the changes coming in 7.2.5 arent enough, we need heroic strike back. seeing as we have no abilities that dont cost rage, the spec becomes very clunky, boring and you end up rage starved most of the time
You should have went over the fact that that the last three talents for fury have to be one thing to actually make the spec viable and have the good rotation and be fun rather than waiting for rage before battle crying and only having raging blow open when enraged.
I love all three specs. Arms is my favorite, big nasty bursts ... Oh and Arms was hella fun in 7.2.5 and 7.3 :) It's okay in 7.3.5. Not sure how it is going to fair in Battle for Azeroth though. Lots of big changes.
Only thing you need to know about Warriors Is that they need: Draught of Souls That Is What makes warrior do huuuge amounts of dmg(also Fury Warriors execute)
So i still have my character boost i'm thinking of either my hunter mark/beast or warrior fury mainly for raiding and transmogrifying what should i do.
Arms is amazing with the right legendaries (Sad to say}. I have Ayala's Stone Heart and Weight of the Earth and I kept up with Fury warriors. They just need to bring back Sudden Death since it's random executes are the perfect filler for Arms game play.
Bellular a very nice a video and i appreciate all of your content very nice indeed. But when you compare arms and fury in raiding enviroment and then protection in 5 man dungeon. that doesn't seem like an accurate comparesion. Arms is very different in 5 man dungeons with aoe spec. either you compare all 3 specs in raiding or in dungeon and not half and half. It's indeed a very good idea with this series and it's a very nice edited.
Everything he said about prot applies to Raids as well. The only thing that didn't was that you can queue and get into dungeons better as a tank. As a DPS main he sees the tank role not as trying to fill a spot in a raid but a convience to get gear faster. When you think about it in a mythic raid guild there are only two tanks and many more dps so it makes sense. Where as in a dungeon scenario it is much less. a 1:3 ratio instead of 2:6-18. and being a melee dps your much less wanted in general in dungeon content. Also doesn't fury have the better aoe in general?
i main arms and i agree in all your regards of the spec. but i think you took the less fun build (in my opinion anyways). if you play without focused rage and have the legendary ring that can make you proc excetcute. its much more fun
To me, Warrior is the class with the highest difference in fun between its DPS specs. Fury is easily one of the top 3 most fun DPS specs in the game. Arms is the most boring DPS spec in the game.
Arms warrior here. As loyal as I am... after trying Fury in a raid I agree. the focused rage mandatory build is complete and utter dogshit filth. My DPS is still not as ideal as fury's margin for error is larger. I spent more time building dps for MS which without a critt hits more or less as hard as a free Raging blow. Critt dependent. And slam is just slam. Hit it because you have to. Sure the big 3 million hits or 5 million hits are great when they happen. But sustain wise... Arms is in a really bad spot right now. Numbers wise it might be as good. Players have differnet opinions but gameplay wise the rotation is straight up awful. 7.2.5 we get a 10 % DPS buff but lose mastery. But wont change anything. Rotation will still be horrendous with mandatory talent selection. Something thats hilarious because at the start of WOW blizz emphasized that they wanted freedom to use whatever talents. They had a problem with the pro guides. yet here we are... FR has a cool concept but it should be tied together with slam instead plus make slam cheaper. Pressing FR 3 times every 4-5 second interval in a boss fight lasting 5-8 minutes makes up the spammiest gameplay I've ever experienced next to vanilla priest flash heal or BC warlock Shadowbolt. "sigh" "Edit" the annoying thing is that PVP wise arms rotation is great. More variation. They should make that available for PVE by buffing DPS or lowering rage cost and that would help so much.
Arms in pvp is very fun, but the pve build you have to play is so slow if you don't have the gloves + ring, once you get them it becomes really good though.
Don't expect to do awesome damage as fury without the Drought of Souls trinket and the set pieces. It still fun though. While I love Bellular's videos, if you want to be a good fury warrior you should head over to Kelade's channel. Best and most current fury guides you'll find, period.
I really badly want to be a tank, because I already have a warrior. But it seems like u need to know everything about the raid/dungeon to do well. And not sure how much to pull all the time
finn richards Speaking as a somewhat casual tank: You sort of do need to know the dungeon, but plenty of people are willing to direct you. And if you've played in any dungeon as DPS before, then you should know where to go and what to pull. When you're with a new healer, start small with your pulls and if your healer is having no issues, tell him you're gonna pull more mobs at once. Once you get the hang of your spec, you'll start to know your limits (especially with your healer). I promise it's not as much of a pain in the ass as you think.
Play around as prot doing some WQs (make sure you are familiar with stats, abilities, etc). Then que for a normal dungeon, and keep doing that till you have everything together. Next move up in difficulty.
I've mained an Arms/Prot warrior since late BC. I hate that he's praising Fury so highly and mocking Arms. It is also worth noting Focus Rage did contribute to Tacticians's Chance, and he completely leaves out the fact that in Fury you take 30% more damage while enraged(10% talented now I think, used to be 15%). This leaves you more vulnerable during peak damage times while Arms takes advantage of enemy vulnerabilities. Also it's really fun to just take a beating like no other class and live as Prot. If you like all three specs and say use Arms for PVP, Fury for PVE, and Prot for tanking, by all means that's fine there's nothing wrong with liking Fury a lot, you'd be using class skills to the best of their capabilities. Fury though has a lot less skill involved, and thus for me, it falls flat.
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I'm going to speak in defense of Arms, namely the fact that we have a proc called "Tactician" for a reason, because that's what they are. They're the warriors that wait for the opportune moment to strike, and as you said, hit like a truck.
You can get some dang fine talent builds with Arms too, and in dungeons you can easily top the DPS charts if you know what you're doing, and it's fun to do. One of the biggest joys for me with the class is going batshit insane during the last 20% of a boss's health, popping Battle Cry and Avatar, and then spamming Execute.
Arms warriors are a bust class with fairly short cooldowns. The bread and butter of the Arms rotation is Colossus Smash > Focused Rage > Mortal Strike. You only need to use it once in most cases. You can also alternate Slam > Focused Rage > Slam > Focused Rage > Slam > Focused Rage when Battle Cry is active, since with the proper talent, both are free. Pop a Colossus Smash > Mortal Strike and you'll hit like a freight train.
And when it comes to multi-target fights, we still have options. Cleave and Whirlwind are your best friends, along with the Warbreaker Artifact Ability. If you've got five or more tough targets around you, the best thing to do is Battle Cry > Avatar > Wabreaker > Bladestorm, wherein you become a whirling blender of death and destruction.
But I can see why you might not like it. We can't spam our filler like Fury and Protection, which can bring your mental momentum to a screeching halt if you go to slam but have no rage, but if you're playing properly this usually isn't a problem.
I don't think there's a "best" warrior spec, nor do I think there's a "worst". Frankly it's all up to personal preference, and all are frightening contenders IMO. Fury will come at you in a steady rage, and they're just downright dangerous with their talents and abilities. Meanwhile Arms can quickly burst people down while still having a moderate amount of sustain, especially with artifact talents, second wind, etc. And then you have Prot, who can almost laugh off anything that's thrown at then save for heavily magic based bosses like Star Augur.
You ever see a duel between two Prot Warriors? It's like to lions made of iron going at it, and it is a thing of beauty.
man can you please make a video showing how you config your UI ? i really like it but i'm not good enough to do one UI so Clean by my self.
Really like these videos! Looking forward to seeing the other classes! :)
Currently got three classes I am choosing between when I decide what my "dedicated" alt will be. Either Fire mage, Frost DK or Havoc DH as it stands atm. So your videos couldn't have come with better timing tbh! Really nice to get some good feedback like this on different classes and specs that I can take into account before I decide :)
I really like these class review videos. It's helping me decide which alts that I want to try out.
Enjoying your class review series so far, keep up the good work.
Kudos, Bellular, for a great informational video. I main a Prot warrior (Arms as pvp) and your video showed me some insight to Fury. I think I'll try it out!
Started to play my Warrior again after a LONG hiatus; which was from Vanilla. Playing Prot right now and still leveling (105) but I am enjoying it so far. Normally I play healer on my main , so defiantly a new experience for me.
Legion was SO much fun as a Warrior. The Mount was the best. Our class hall was a wormhole and is still used as such. Awesome time.
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on Monk. I've been playing BM Monk a lot lately and I'm really enjoying it.
For Arms warrior, If you take the talent that increases the damage of Whirlwind to your primary target, Fervor I think it's called, You can replace slam with Whirlwind as your main rage spender. This also makes the ability Cleave more prominent in your rotation.
I've played an arms warrior exclusively pve for about 6+ years now. with legion, I find it's mostly balancing Colossus Smash procs with overpower and execute phases. it's very rythmic once you get into it. I can see how someone would like more excitement in their builds, but I like it because I can still look around the map, get out of fire, and throw a few stuns.
I'm going to give advice I wish I had when I created and maxed my warrior.
The 3 specs have different playstyles and It's highly recommended you stick to one.
Fury is the one I mained, from what I know, prior to 110 It may be a pain during questing at times due to the amount of damage you receive and the difficulty of soloing elite bosses, but It's definitely one of the most fun and powerful classes (once geared).
Arms is terrific too. Safer, stronger most of the time (not my a significant margin). Though a lot of it's gameplay may seem boring. So if you're someone who does not enjoy waiting to repeat a cycle of abilities and waiting for cooldowns, it's probably not the best for you.
I have no clue about how protection works, I've never tanked.
If someone wants add to this.
Good luck! Don't be deterred for fury because it gets hard in Legion/Pandaria. Once geared it's amazingly fun and strong.
"Fury is one of the strongest warrior dps specs" It's also one of the two
WorgenatorWoW lol so true
WorgenatorWoW definetly top2
I thought he meant one of strongest in game.
hebun hebun They are tho
WorgenatorWoW one of the two what?
enjoying this content bellular! i alt a fury warrior and really enjoy it. Looking forward to other class vid's
This video has pushed me to finally Finnish my warr and I'm now going to main a prot warr thanks so much always want a warrior
Exceptional quality vid. Great work man!
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westiesmum69 lol dhs in pvp are squishy as shit
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love that UI any chance for a link or a breakdown of the addons you used :)?
As a Warrior main who is primarily Fury and has Prot as their off spec, I'd describe them as simple, yet effective. They aren't overly flashy, but they get the job done. And from my experience, holy shit are they fun.
I NEVER thought I would be a warrior main. I had a lvl 100 of every class except warrior and monk and then I took a break for a few years. I came back about a week ago and with my BFA preorder I got a 110 boost. I thought I was going to play warlock and began lvling it figuring it would be smarter to lvl and relearn the class. I got pretty damn bored about halfway through and ended up boosting a warrior because someone mentioned that a good way to have fun again was to pick a class that was opposite what you were used to. 5 days in and I absolutely LOVE my arms warrior! I had never played a warrior before because I didn't find the "fantasy" compelling, but after playing the class it doesn't matter. The mobility is so fun. I imagine myself as a Cloud or Guts-like warrior who is fighting demons with just a blade and taking them down.
IMO for prot the ideal setup right now is lego gloves and ring (the walls fell), in combination with 30% haste and devastator talent. That's where you really see prot start to shine. If you can manage devastator talent well, not only will you see a noticeable damage/healing/suviveability increase, but the spec also starts to become more fluid and the rotation smooths out with fewer wasted GCDs.
I'm playing an Arms warrior and I lost it when you mentioned "it's kind of like marmite, some people do seem to love it". And I happen to love to put some marmite on my cheese (try it!) :)
Great series! Keep the content coming!
My favorite spec is Arms, but it's kinda dead right now, so i switched to Fury. I even have the two BIS for arms :P
Arms was fun for a while looking at the tread we can play it again in two more expansions
For anyone playing prot warrior, please use devestator, the only time you would ever specc something different would be if you get oneshot and there is no other way other than indomitable. You get rewarded having skill and experience in this specc using devestator.
Imagine a tank that doesnt need a healer most of the time and deals damage equal to or sometimes more than the worse dps in your raid. But you have the potential to die almost instantly if you fuck up
great review.. so useful, look forward to more
Bellular, can you do an updated video on your Weak Auras? They look exactly like what I want out of WA...though I suuuuuck at making them.
You forgot to mention you get a massive damage buff if you jump through the Nightwell during the Elisande fight as a warrior.
Hardly ever comment on anything... but i have to say i'm really enjoying this series and gets me excited to try out some classes i'd never given any thought to! :)
@BellularGaming you should do the coveted Warlocks next. I really enjoy these videos
shhh!! don't tell people that warriors are good , it can be our little secret.
Fury warriors where u at!?
Schranzoslavek waddup
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Arms is better, only pussys use 2 weapons.
Just Some Nerd at least we can spell pussies correctly
I main Arms, I love my arms but I honestly use them both with them being really close in terms of artifact power but I got a fury legendary (after 8 months of farming) so I am forced to main fury ;3
That ui is just amazing, do you have a link or something for it?
fresh 110 warrior, ESPECIALLY fury, was painful. but as you mention, gearing in 7.2 is pretty darn quick so it wouldn't be nearly as bad now as it was a month or so from Legion's release. Fury is fun as hell!
You left out one of the major dps increases to arms warrior which is the weapon trait "executioners precision" when paired with Ayala's ring, I've hit over 5million damage mortal strikes.
7:12 Average arms warrior with half decent has more than 50% Mastery , so it's 15% (plus around 50% via mastery) .
Also if you have the Titanic Might talent you have a 6 seconds window without colossus smash , but it stays for 24 seconds so a long time to get a proc .
I thought it was Haste> Mastery> Vers> Crit xD ?
it is, he doesnt know the class too good :P
Depends alot on your gear. I main a fury warrior and atm my stats go Mastery>Haste>Vers>Strength>Crit. It's all about how your current gear is as fury warrior :)
Niklas Wehl but with bis gear, it's haste>mastery>vers>crit
Niklas Wehl Stat priority doesnt change. If yours dont match up, it means your gear isnt ideal.
Niklas you should go Arms with those stats man xD
Where can i find UI like that?
well, I finally got to 110 on my warrior and I'm playing both dps specs and I'm enjoying it.
To me arms feels more "tankish" than fury but I do like both so I work on both. Arms damage depends very much on colossus reset but it's easy to keep my health bar full. Fury is more simple but doesn't heal myself as well.
I love these class reviews. Thank you.
you forgot to mention that the class hall will sometimes take you on a detour to azsuna.
I have not played Warrior since MoP, and well I have to say it and Rogue were the only class i could play and call my main.
It's been a few Xpacs last I touched Warrior, I'm hopping to rehash my love for this class.
Was leveling a Warrior when this was uploaded. :D
I like playing arms on my human warrior, because i am a big lotr fan. (and i think Aragorn is really cool!)
cant wait foe the dk one ! nice vid btw, really like tge series. btw what is that bar addon ?
The big problem with focusing on the teleport for the order hall bonuses is that it's currently unreliable. About 25% of the time I find myself dumped unceremoniously in the northwestern corner of Azsuna, down to half held from fall damage and nowhere near where I was trying to go.
I'd say a bigger perk is that it's one of the classes that lets you use the orderhall upgrade to instantly complete a world quest.
lilagtook the order hall teleport makes the dalaran Hearthstone useless
It would if it worked reliably.
Don't all classes have the orderhall upgrade to instantly complete a world quest?
No. DK, Paladin, Warrior, DH, Mage, and Warlock do. The other six don't get that option.
lilagtook Oh, so all the classes I play except for druid, which isn't 110 yet.
I'm absolutely amazed by your class videos. Keep up GOOD work, Bellular. With love from Russia.
Can't wait for the DK review
I didn't watch the video yet, so maybe my opinion will change, but I restarted playing last week as a Fury Warrior and I'm having a hell of a good time. Level 56 already due to time constraints, life and such, but I don't see a problem if there is one. I'll comment again after the video.
thx belluar this series is awsome
great overview ! ty
Hey dude sorry to ask here but do you have any addon video for legion ? i
like your warrior ui but i cant find any infos in your videos. if i remember right you said you using some addon pack you create.
Honestly I find fury a tad basic in the rotation and the down time is really painful waiting for CD (only like 40 seconds tops) but still. Arms I actually find really fullfilling to play with the Focus Rage talent and personally I would say is the best single target spec for a challenge vs feeling good over coming it wise. That being said I do find most PvE players prefer to not have a spec that pushes your attention limit. If you liked old windwalker or old boomy you'll like new Arms. That being said Arms big fall out is in battleground pvp. The one thing that keeps me coming back to Fury over Arms is the AoE snare fury has. It allows some solid melee kiting and you can catch range kiting you much easier. That isn't even taking into account Fury's increased mobility. That being said Arms is probably better with a consistent reliable team in 2's and 3's rated as it still does have Die By the Sword which fury doesn't and arenas is more of a CD war.
Prot War is meh go with it if you want a relaxing spec like Guardian Druid but don't want to be a furry. Personally I enjoy Monk and Dh tank more as I feel like they keep me engaged by having to use CDs.
The structure of going through a spec could be improved. you go through core styles but also jump around in the talents/possible builds. Only downside for splitting that would be longer runtime.
i will say that, if you enjoy the holy pally dps rotation, arms is really fun, they play in a very similar way (regardless of how odd that may sound) lol
Absolutely on point !! I love my fury warrior and this is 100% true (well almost for me xD )
I would also like to know what is your UI and Addons, looks really clean and good, exactly what i need
When reading the spell names for arms, I keep thinking the artifact weapon should have been a mace. Slam, smash, strike, etc. The abilities would probably feel more weighty with a huge ass hammer.
I love this series. I cannot wait until you do paladin and see if you're views of retribution line up with mine...
oh man.... really starting to feel the itch to play again....
hello sir, love your videos what is the add on you use for those timers on the icon abilities?
Addon setup? It looks amazing, and I want in on it, please!
actually I think raging blow is better without the talent that makes it not need enrage to be required.
its because with enough haste you can use raging blow 4 times in a row but the talent makes it go on cooldown so you cant spam it
They absolutely butchered the Warrior lore in my opinion. Went way too far with generic Viking tropes and completely ruined characters which had been a part of Warcraft lore for nearly 20 years, like Eitrigg
That's fair, not something that'll line up with what many play a warrior for.
CaptainOvious123 I play fury, and if I'm honest I couldn't care less about the class lore.
As a Warrior main, I can say that I don't play Warrior for the lore :P
Lore aside. Since when Warriors are a Vrykul wannabe?
Let us join a battlefield, build a camp in the middle of it and let us steal enemy moun to charge on it to battle!
Not fckn punch Odyn's dragon in a face and be applaused by Vrykuls.. Warrior "identity" is really lame. Esspecially Order Hall, it is just reskinned dungeon.
Bleach, wait till you will have a quest for your class mount.
Exacly, warriors are just grunts. We are not Vrykul, for whom it is honor to be there.
It makes no sense that we are Odyn's champions, it would made more sense if we raided it and took it as ours. To hell with Vrykul lore as Warrior's.
Have you seen Dk order hall? Or Shammy? Palladin's? Locks?
Warrior one just lack the imagination and verve, it is basically halls of valor with little edit. It is the worst order hall from all my alts, by far.
"Lo, there do I see my father,
Lo, there do I see my mother,
And my sister and my brother,
Lo, there do I see the line of my people,
Back to the beginning,
Lo, they do call to me,
They bid me take my place among them,
In the halls of Valhalla,
Where the brave may live forever!" - The XIII Warrior
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!" - Conan
This & Gutz from Bersek is why I play a Warrior, do not get me wrong I love my Paladin, but I just have a lot of Rage that I need to cut loose one in a while & nothing say bad ass lile heavy armored clad giant armed to the teeth with some huge weapons smashing faces & taking names!
The reason why arms is so clunky and bad to play is because of it's rage regeneration, which you forgot to mention. Arms only generates rage from autoattacks, and the amount it gives is wayyy too little. On top of that, if you dont play with focused rage. You have no way to dump your rage, which either means you can have 0 rage or too much rage. It plays very clunky and the changes coming in 7.2.5 arent enough, we need heroic strike back. seeing as we have no abilities that dont cost rage, the spec becomes very clunky, boring and you end up rage starved most of the time
Hey Bellular, was just wondering what you have your camera settings at. Thanks!
You should have went over the fact that that the last three talents for fury have to be one thing to actually make the spec viable and have the good rotation and be fun rather than waiting for rage before battle crying and only having raging blow open when enraged.
what is the bar addon you are using to track your buffs (eg. enrage, frothing..)? Thanks in advance
Its battle cry not berserker rage and its bloodthirst not bloodlust
...as I noted in the edit...
Also, wtf is Berserker's shout xD
You have great video`s man, keep it up I like them all.
Very helpful thanks!
Awesome Video!
I love all three specs. Arms is my favorite, big nasty bursts ... Oh and Arms was hella fun in 7.2.5 and 7.3 :) It's okay in 7.3.5. Not sure how it is going to fair in Battle for Azeroth though. Lots of big changes.
Only thing you need to know about Warriors Is that they need:
Draught of Souls
That Is What makes warrior do huuuge amounts of dmg(also Fury Warriors execute)
Ah yeah it's cool, got it on the DH though
Pls, It would be so nice if you would do an updated ui video. Or just give us a link with your addon list + settings :D Thank you so much !
I'd be curious to see your paladin video.
So i still have my character boost i'm thinking of either my hunter mark/beast or warrior fury mainly for raiding and transmogrifying what should i do.
Hello, where to get that minimalistic interface that you have in the video?
Arms is amazing with the right legendaries (Sad to say}. I have Ayala's Stone Heart and Weight of the Earth and I kept up with Fury warriors. They just need to bring back Sudden Death since it's random executes are the perfect filler for Arms game play.
Can't wait for Druid
Hey!
Any chance that we could get a video on your ui, and a download link for it? :)
I'm disappointed by the lack of general talent coverage for the specs after Fury.
I have to correct you Bell. Ignore Pain doesn't absorb 90% of all damage. It's 90 of a flat amount based on your gear.
"Fury is currently one of the strongest dps specs for the warriors." - Bellular 2017
Mine main is a Fury Warrior , best class in the game , easy to heal yourself and deals a lot of damage. :D
Bellular a very nice a video and i appreciate all of your content very nice indeed. But when you compare arms and fury in raiding enviroment and then protection in 5 man dungeon. that doesn't seem like an accurate comparesion. Arms is very different in 5 man dungeons with aoe spec. either you compare all 3 specs in raiding or in dungeon and not half and half. It's indeed a very good idea with this series and it's a very nice edited.
Everything he said about prot applies to Raids as well. The only thing that didn't was that you can queue and get into dungeons better as a tank. As a DPS main he sees the tank role not as trying to fill a spot in a raid but a convience to get gear faster. When you think about it in a mythic raid guild there are only two tanks and many more dps so it makes sense. Where as in a dungeon scenario it is much less. a 1:3 ratio instead of 2:6-18. and being a melee dps your much less wanted in general in dungeon content. Also doesn't fury have the better aoe in general?
what addon is this that lets you know when you are enraged, and have cooldowns, in the little bar above your abilities?
i main arms and i agree in all your regards of the spec. but i think you took the less fun build (in my opinion anyways). if you play without focused rage and have the legendary ring that can make you proc excetcute. its much more fun
To me, Warrior is the class with the highest difference in fun between its DPS specs.
Fury is easily one of the top 3 most fun DPS specs in the game.
Arms is the most boring DPS spec in the game.
I enjoy Feral. It's not one of my favorites, but it's not bad.
Arms warrior here. As loyal as I am... after trying Fury in a raid I agree. the focused rage mandatory build is complete and utter dogshit filth. My DPS is still not as ideal as fury's margin for error is larger. I spent more time building dps for MS which without a critt hits more or less as hard as a free Raging blow. Critt dependent. And slam is just slam. Hit it because you have to.
Sure the big 3 million hits or 5 million hits are great when they happen. But sustain wise... Arms is in a really bad spot right now. Numbers wise it might be as good. Players have differnet opinions but gameplay wise the rotation is straight up awful. 7.2.5 we get a 10 % DPS buff but lose mastery. But wont change anything. Rotation will still be horrendous with mandatory talent selection.
Something thats hilarious because at the start of WOW blizz emphasized that they wanted freedom to use whatever talents. They had a problem with the pro guides. yet here we are...
FR has a cool concept but it should be tied together with slam instead plus make slam cheaper. Pressing FR 3 times every 4-5 second interval in a boss fight lasting 5-8 minutes makes up the spammiest gameplay I've ever experienced next to vanilla priest flash heal or BC warlock Shadowbolt.
"sigh"
"Edit" the annoying thing is that PVP wise arms rotation is great. More variation. They should make that available for PVE by buffing DPS or lowering rage cost and that would help so much.
Fury compared to ww monk tho....ugh pisses me off
James Salvatore vanilla priest flash heal rank 3 baby or was it 4 Idk whatever hahaha
bruh you are on a roll. every class ive played so far has been covered. if monk is next ima be like whoa
usa1327 I hope Monk is next!
Arms in pvp is very fun, but the pve build you have to play is so slow if you don't have the gloves + ring, once you get them it becomes really good though.
I agree 100% I rather play arms but the only viable dps spec is the most boring thing I've ever played. I love them in pvp tho.
I love arms but I'm struggling to manage more than 250k at ilvl 886 using FR build 😕
Can you give a list of the addons you use? At least the UI ones.
Don't expect to do awesome damage as fury without the Drought of Souls trinket and the set pieces. It still fun though. While I love Bellular's videos, if you want to be a good fury warrior you should head over to Kelade's channel. Best and most current fury guides you'll find, period.
I really badly want to be a tank, because I already have a warrior. But it seems like u need to know everything about the raid/dungeon to do well. And not sure how much to pull all the time
finn richards
Speaking as a somewhat casual tank:
You sort of do need to know the dungeon, but plenty of people are willing to direct you. And if you've played in any dungeon as DPS before, then you should know where to go and what to pull. When you're with a new healer, start small with your pulls and if your healer is having no issues, tell him you're gonna pull more mobs at once.
Once you get the hang of your spec, you'll start to know your limits (especially with your healer). I promise it's not as much of a pain in the ass as you think.
Play around as prot doing some WQs (make sure you are familiar with stats, abilities, etc). Then que for a normal dungeon, and keep doing that till you have everything together. Next move up in difficulty.
do you have a vid of your ui, I really like it.
I've mained an Arms/Prot warrior since late BC. I hate that he's praising Fury so highly and mocking Arms. It is also worth noting Focus Rage did contribute to Tacticians's Chance, and he completely leaves out the fact that in Fury you take 30% more damage while enraged(10% talented now I think, used to be 15%). This leaves you more vulnerable during peak damage times while Arms takes advantage of enemy vulnerabilities. Also it's really fun to just take a beating like no other class and live as Prot. If you like all three specs and say use Arms for PVP, Fury for PVE, and Prot for tanking, by all means that's fine there's nothing wrong with liking Fury a lot, you'd be using class skills to the best of their capabilities. Fury though has a lot less skill involved, and thus for me, it falls flat.
It would be awesome if you could make a addonpack configd for your UI... Just an idea
which addons were used for ui/bars in this video?
Cant wait for shamen.
Tbh arms is way more fun than Fury in mythic +. Also the 4-set piece makes the rotation more proc dependant, but also a lot more fun imo.