Why Cruise Ships Go To Turkey To Die - Cheddar Explains
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2021
- Turkey’s ship breaking yard is located in the town of Aliaga - about 30 miles north of Port Izmir. Usually, this yard breaks down cargo and container ships. But in 2020, it started bringing in another type of vessel. And business is booming.
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The workers in Bangladesh do it barefoot and most deadly accidents occur when tankers are not properly vented and remaining fumes ignite from torches.
imposter sus vented
Exactly! chittagong bangladesh, so sad....
Tankers are never really vented. Thats why you always need to use breathing devices when entering enclosed spaces.
Typical Bangladeshians
@TheCCPfearsANZ He is not proud of it. 🤦♂️Just stating a fact.
I can't believe Cheddar covered this topic without going into more detail about the reprehensible working conditions that these workers are subjected to. I highly recommend National Geographic's "Where Ships go to Die" video for more detail on the process & working conditions.
They also mispronounced the one Turkish name in the piece, and have what appears to be zero Turkish sources in the credits. How can you do a piece about an industry in Turkey without talking to a single Turkish person?
@@dannyfratina3901 I'm 99% sure Cheddar's content comes from them spending 1 day googling something they heard about online
@@dannyfratina3901 step 1: be american. After that it’s basically really easy
@@SpaceRaptorJesusJedi Someone probably saw a buzzfeed article and decided to make a video about it. Can't expect many great things from this channel, just interesting topics, some unchecked trivia info and a bunch of shallow writing.
They don't even know the difference between South Asia and Southeast Asia
4:54 Working conditions in South East Asia . . . hammering away while suspended on a platform with no safety equipment, in flip flops. Yikes!
Errr he said South Asia though.....
Yea, I think it's a typo. We don't have any large scale shipbreaking yard here in SEA
Probably Bangladesh or India
Flip flops, the nationally preferred work shoes on hard working south asians!
@@VintageToiletsRock lol. Cheap, durable, easy to wear, and available everywhere
As a turkish citizen, why tf am i learning this for the first time from Cheddar
read the news bro
This is not all bro. Apparently they just found out that Istanbul was once Constantinople. You really should read the news more.
@@siphotheguy1870 Not funny I didn't laugh. Your joke is so bad I would have preferred the joke went over my head and you gave up re-telling me the joke. To be honest this is a horrid attempt at trying to get a laugh out of me. Not a chuckle, not a hehe, not even a subtle burst of air out of my esophagus. Science says before you laugh your brain preps your face muscles but I didn't even feel the slightest twitch. 0/10 this joke is so bad I cannot believe anyone legally allowed you to be creative at all. The amount of brain power you must have put into that joke has the potential to power every house on Earth. Get a personality and learn how to make jokes, read a book. I'm not saying this to be funny I genuinely mean it on how this is just bottom barrel embarrassment at comedy. You've single handedly killed humor and every comedic act on the planet. I'm so disappointed that society has failed as a whole in being able to teach you how to be funny. Honestly if I put in all my power and time to try and make your joke funny it would require Einstein himself to build a device to strap me into so I can be connected to the energy of a billion stars to do it, and even then all that joke would get from people is a subtle scuff. You're lucky I still have the slightest of empathy for you after telling that joke otherwise I would have committed every war crime in the book just to prevent you from attempting any humor ever again. We should put that joke in text books so future generations can be wary of becoming such an absolute comedic failure. Im disappointed, hurt, and outright offended that my precious time has been wasted in my brain understanding that joke. In the time that took I was planning on helping kids who have been orphaned, but because of that you've waisted my time explaining the obscene integrity of your terrible attempt at comedy. Now those kids are suffering without meals and there's nobody to blame but you. I hope you're happy with what you have done and I truly hope you can move on and learn from this piss poor attempt
@@erayozsaray3526 pls give me permission to copy this and us this to reply to dumb people.
@@even___ I think that's what he did
This is the most epic recycling program I’ve ever seen
Look at India. It has 6 miles of beach for shipbreakers.
They can handle 85 ships at a time.
You learn something new everyday. And your video quality is excellent!!
I don't think the cruise industry will ever recover. I avoided cruises before the pandemic because of the many examples of sickness on board, and will never go on one now. Floating petri dish
That and also they wreak havoc on the environnement
I find the idea that the cruise industry will not recover hard to believe as the cruise industry was able to recovered from a World War and the deadliest pandemics in human history, and people are already rush back to bars, club and restaurants.
I think they will recover. But I agree with you in that ships have always been places where diseases can spread quickly.
They really aren't any different than being around people on land at an amusement park or going to Vegas, except they can sink and are subjected to more extreme weather. But you also get some beautiful views if you go on the correct cruises.
@@MrMarcA09 and bring little or nothing to the ports they visit
So weird to think I've been in the Sovering (former Royal Carribean ship), and now its just scraps.-
And the Carnival Imagination was my first ship.
sovereign*
Whether u like it or not, the cruise industry will bounce back because there is huge profit to be made. Also, kudos to companies for picking the Turkish shipbreaking yards.
How is the 'huge profit' will be made since people will avoid cruise ships? Are you out of your mind?
@@paradiz3lost ur the only one outta ur mind thinking that u speak on behalf of everybody. ik that I wanna get back into a cruise ship once this pandemic is over. Cruise ships were booming pre-pandemic, and as the economy recovers and ppl have more money, they will naturally spend it on vacationing
I'm more impressed with the companies that choose the European ship breakers.
@@daelbows5783 what do you like about cruise ships? They are basically a shitty city on the ocean.
@@herpesdergotterbote2719 exactly, they are a floating city on the ocean. Also, unlimited food, you show up to a new place to explore everyday, and lots of amenities on the ship to keep u entertained. The statistics don't lie, the cruise industry is booming.
*Sad Finland noises 🇫🇮* - Saw a few cruisers that were made in my country, sad to see them being reduced to scrap metal, but I guess it was to be expected that older ships the cruise companies can't afford to keep due to Covid have to be dismantled. 😥
Like ants breaking down an apple
2 of those Carnival ships I actually sailed on back in the late 2000s early 2010s :( its sad to see them go.
Ooof
The Cheddar-themed pie chart is a nice touch
Awesome ! I wouldn’t want to do it but I’m glad someone someone is.
The UK is resuming cruising this month, I'll be on the first! Cannot wait. 😀😎
How are you everywhere at once?? 🤣🤣
Emmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Love your channel Emma, I am a subscriber.
@@lemarkipusylvers4840 Helloooo!!! Thank you loads :D
Lemme guess, in a few years when the industry picks back up they'll be asking the us government for tax breaks, subsiding etc paod for by the American peoples taxes in order to purchase new ships and "provide more jobs" at crappy wages.
It's too bad these ship salvage yards don't instead maintain them and resell them in a couple years, I can't imagine dry docking or something them would be outrageously expensive. Or keep them floating and just perform basic maintenance which wouldn't be super intensive since they would be being used.
It was sad to see 2 carnival cruises I went on sitting in that turkish yard
It’s so crazy that the companies don’t even try to salvage what’s left, they just leave it all there, furniture, equipment, materials. I guess it’s just more economical to get paid for the weight of the objects rather than just reuse them.
Its hard to reuse stuff, because maybe the other ships design elements are different. Especially because these are usually older ships.
Not to mention that you would need a big warehouse to put all of these things.
No, it's most likely that they don't have the manpower to move all the furniture, then clean and categorize and sell them. They're just contracting out labor to these ship breakers to do that too.
Cruise companies do what they're set up to do, which is to operate cruise ships. They don't build them, fit them out or break them up.
A lot of stuff is salvaged by the wrecking companies. Especially standardized stuff like kitchen equipment or stuff in large quantities like chairs and sun loungers is often used to equip smaller hotels.
I wish I had the money to buy one of these at scrap price. I'd turn it into a floating city and get away from it all.
Great video
I have been on one of the carnival ships. Sad to see it get destroyed.
Ship breaking in Asia is terrible. The can offer 3x the price because they don't follow any environmental guidelines...
AND the pay is all but non existent.
@@christopherescott6787 this is the biggest factor.
Probably the high demand for steel in China plays a part too.
I dove on almost all of those carnival ships. Prop polishing and hull cleanings, as well as inspections and repairs. Lots of familiar ships there. Pretty sad to see.
Those container ships are likely panamax,
The new locks allow bigger ships, and the older panamax ships, have been sent to be broken up due to their small size
Hey why don’t you guys do a new vid in the “the vault” series
I used to work on board of two of those Carnival ships.
You should really see a beaching! it's really nerve racking a ship cruising at full speed towards the beach.
Recycling is needed but it only works if you can make money doing it.
No one makes real money on it expect for the rich ones exploring poor people working on those conditions.
Looking very nice..
I can't help but wonder if they'd be better used as housing.
If you consider the cost of upkeep and modifications, land based solutions are more feasible.
@@warmstrong5612 Considering that the propulsion system can be taken out and barnacles can be there without causing an issue, is it still more expensive to maintain than equivalent housing? I'm not sure what might be involved in modifications but I was envisioning beaching the thing, jacking it up to make it level, building a peir, and finally plugging it into the grid.
Go look at the state of the Queen Mary which has tried to operate as a hotel for many years in Long Beach, CA. In the end, it's just too expensive to maintain and the ship is in pretty bad disrepair.
@@jpears1100 Thank you!!! I'm a Long Beach resident and want that vessel sent to Turkey!!
I was working on a vessel in Dundee that ended up getting shipped to turkey to be torn apart
How do they manage to compete with the Indian yards (and beaches)?
Scrapping of ships will continue to trend upwards as vessels have to be made compliant with more stringent emission requirements. Older and less efficient ships will be sent for scrapping if zero emission engines cannot be retrofitted on them.
Once I’ve seen on Google Street View, is those pile up unused emergency boats.
Good
I think the shipyard is strangely beautiful.
I predict this may cause a large spike in cruising prices as the industry resumes. Similar to what we are seeing in the rental car market consumer demand will be higher than anticipated coupling that with fewer ships in the water for those consumers to cruise on. If this turns out to be true it could be years for decent cruising rates to come back given how long it takes to design and build a new ship. I hope I am wrong.
The pent up demand is actually crazy huge. Top end world cruises (180 days+) sold out in a day - literally. While there has been a reduction of inventory with the scrapping, a lot of people fail to mention all the new ships that have come on-line during 2020 and still continuing. These are all ships ordered 3 to 4 years ago. The rise in prices will likely happen as a combination of that pent up demand plus likely govt mandated capacity reductions (i.e. ships only allowed a certain % occupancy or a ban of inside cabin sales).
Ignorance is the greatest poverty
~Imam Hassan
A bit of knowledge,Education and ingenuity brings progress.
Talking about cruise ship dismantling?
they normally scrap cargo ships and oil tankers ship but now there scrapping floating Palaces.
Nice
Reposted?
What about the future of buffet restaurants
Let's hope cruising never returns.
I was watching this with my Turkish husband. He was getting irritated that they were pronouncing Aliağa wrong. The “g” is silent.
Lol at your husband. His country is not really called Turkey and he is not actually Turkish.
@@DirtyRobot what you mean??
Actually it should be AGA the other form is deform,
I am Turk.
Why do I feel like I have seen this before in another video? 🤔
Considering the terrible working conditions for most shipbreaker yards, including a lot of deadly accidents, maybe we should just preserve more ships. RMS Queen Mary is an ok example of how you can get more money from using a ship in a way that keeps it alive than cutting it up into bits.
vay be bir defa videosunu izlemiştim karaya çıkarılan gemilerin ama çok varöş
"Hey let's export scrapping to a country with poor labor safety laws and poor industrial pollution controls!"
CAPITALISM!
If we just recycle plastic as efficient as this*
*Of course its hard
It's not just ridiculously difficult to recycle plastic, but borderline impossible. The way plastic is made makes it virtually impossible to breakdown without straight up incinerating it.
Plastic is easy to recycle. You just heat it up and mold it into whatever shape you want.
I do it with hdpe number 2 plastic because it doesn't give off any toxic fumes when heated.
@@jamingaming9251 yes, but it doesn't retain the same strength and is almost always going to lack a significant amount of its properties.
I would love to wander around an abandoned ship.
Abandoned life boat outside ship wrecking
Oh get me on a norovirus boat please!
Why many cruise ship suddenly go to breaking yard?
Cruise ship boom in 1980s
Ship lifespan 30+ years
Why not docked the ships and have people live inside it to help with housing etc
I think i have heard the narrator's voice somewhere
How is it possible that so much heavy steel can float on water?
Magic.
Displacement
Alien technology.
My uncle is a retired travel agent and started back in the early days of the industey, he's been on around 500 cruises ranging from 3 days to week long. He got my parents addicted to cruising and they've been on around 50 cruises, I've gone on 12 cruises with them when I was younger. They really miss it and are all hoping that they can start cruising again soon. They also invested in a couple different cruise lines so they've lost some money due to the shut down.
A: excellent hashish.
What a year, 33 cruise ships scrapped last year. Some aren't even 'old' by cruise ship standards. There are sooooooooooo many new ships being released to replace them though. It's all good!
335.000 jobs lost. It's all good.
Environment destroyed. It's all good.
@@matbroomfield - that steel will be made into cars and construction materials. It's a wonderful thing.
@@ravenfn831 Missing the point, but I agree with yours.
@@matbroomfield ah yes, a few ships are destroying the environment. not the billions of cars expelling co2, or burning of fossil fuels, or polluted cities in china and India, no, just a few cruise ships.
Not my cup of tea to vacation on a cruise ship. But if you like it, whatever floats your boat. :D
My one and only cruise was mostly fun, but too much time is wasted at sea only to get 6-7 hours at each port. The worst part about cheap cruise tickets is the horrendous food waste. People just take huge amounts of food from the troughs only to leave much of it on their plates. Cruise company employees work very hard for very little pay. And we all know tons of garbage are secretly dumped into the sea. It's a terrible industry.
3:03 'environmentally hazardous' is putting it lightly. I mean damn..
Better recycling than the plastic market at least
Never understood the appeal of cruises
Cruise ships had a bad reputation before Covid (all kinds of close spread diseases).
I think they will have a hard time recovering, especially as a lot of retirees used to take cruises.
I personally would not use one now.
Ayy I'm here
Could have sworn I'd seen this before
Why can't we at least save the huge signature spoiler and funnel things off the Carnival cruise ships? Just weld them to the back of a bus, make a combine harvester/lawn mower with it upside down, take it to work to get our coworkers talking and impress the boss; or you could build a living room with it in the center!
The stacks?
You cant just say the CDC issued a ban on the resale of old ships and not go further into detal
great hotels or isolated communities or jails weekend cruise or condos. seems a shame to bust them up.
1:00 Do they really charge by the ton and not kilograms? Or are the prices in the video figured just for the American audience?
What are you talking about?
@@paulpichler I thought everywhere outside of the US measured things in metric units.
Sorry, I mixed up the imperial ton and the metric ton. I’m not from the US, so I didn’t know there is a difference between the two.
Maybe they do mean the metric ton equal to 1000 kg?
@@paulpichler Oh, I see.
Recycling yards pay ship owners based on Light Displacement Tonnage (LDT)
But why are companies selling their ships at less prices to Turkey instead of South Asia? That was damn title of this video.....
I hope the cruse industry sinks like the Costa Concordia. Its so f***ing harmefull to the emviroment.
It's not, really.
The most harmful industry is the textile industry. It's light years ahead of the cruise industry. Why don't you protest that?
minuscule impact compared to cars.
Cruises are not great. No boat is. The new ones are much better and me taking a cruise I can walk to vs me flying to anywhere. The cruise is better per person.
@@topanteon Textiles are a necessity. Cruises are a luxury. It's easier to eliminate cruises than textiles.
@@seneca983 approximately 2% of the texile industry could be considered a necessity. Having closets full of clothes is a luxury.
I'm sure the cruise industry will be fine. They have billions of dollars saved for recessions.
Now go watch the Kyuss- El Rodeo video
ua-cam.com/video/KVm8G0ipETc/v-deo.html
Alot of people and tight spaces. You want to get sick? Go for a cruise.
I have great sympathy for the workers both in the breaking yards and on board the ships. I have zero sympathy for the ghouls in charge of these exploitative operations
this Carnival cruisers are 45 years old ....
'Steel and metal scraps are sold to car manufacturers. '
Aay I see what you did there
1:01
This ship could have become a temporary hospital ship like literally look at the pandemic the healthcare system can't keep up.
The Comfort and Mercy hardly got used and weren’t really needed in the US during the height of the pandemic. Maybe they’ll help out in India.
It would be no loss to the planet if the cruise industry never recovered.
That makes no sense.
Plasma lance guys should get cool scifi gas masks. Finally finish our whole "we live in a cyberpunk dystopia" situation.
I never understood why they don’t turn these decommission ships into homeless shelters.
Where would they park them?
lol what
The environmental sensitivity in Turkey is mostly on par with the rest of Europe, whereas the cost is substantially lower. So it makes good sense, both economically and environmentally to choose Turkey. In Asia, on the other hand, the environment is still not an issue anyone gives much attention to.
You got the environment part right. On the other hand, this mine is already gone. ua-cam.com/video/pYqb1x21hWg/v-deo.html
So, Turkey & China account for less than 30% of the ship salvage? What is the point of this video?
2:51 SOUTH Asia is not SOUTHEAST Asia. Fix this please.
The united states should get involved in the ship recycling game to help in improving the industry
Hopefully never recovers and fades into obscurity...environmental impact of cruises is brutal
Advice? Or factual evidence? You’re welcome to do a google search for yourself. Your comment about small cities compared to cruise ships holds no weight as one is a elective vacation option and the other is a requirement of existing within a community. Cheers
@@snipewa4 yea, that makes it so bad, cruise ships are crazy polluting while having no positive side (other than some not quite as good as on land entertainment).
Omg the first cruise ship I went on was the carnival imagination, and that’s the first ship close up at 0:20! That’s actually really sad knowing I’ll never be able to get on that boat again:/
These ships could be used to ferry migrants from africa to the US and Europe. Hundereds of millions will want to migrate, so some serious transport is in order.
Where exactly would they be housed?
In the UK we have a housing crisis thanks to mass immigration. In European countries where they built homes for migrants, they didn't want to live there because the benefits paid by the government were less than Germany.
What is the fascination with depopulating Africa?
Wouldn't it be better to create jobs over there and build modern cities with all the modern amenities?
@@jamingaming9251 I'm sure China is pretty fascinated with depopulating africa as it needs the resources but has no use for the population except to destabilize Europe and the US so I expect that will increasingly become a driver of migration along with the pull of Western leftists dreaming of multiculturalism. One way or the other hundreds of millions will migrate to the nearest white population which is where these cruiseships could play a magnificent role.
Proverbs 8:17💝
So sad
Most of the cruise ships right now that they are cutting up or barely 5 years old all because of COVID-19
They're increasingly only 25-35 years old, which is at least five years _younger_ than they'd normally be scrapped at > 40 years. Not only five years old total. The 'newest' cruise ship I can find being scrapped as a result of 2020 downturn (not because of damage, etc.) is Costa Victoria, constructed 1996.
source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cruise_ships
There is one easy way to fix "Ali yaga", just ommit the "ğ", Aliaaa. See ? easy
Now carriers coming to Turkiye to be dismantled.
Vocal fry narration....not irritating at all 🙄
Too bad we can't refurbish them and use them with a small rent to people that can't afford big rents on the land. I don't mean they should be cruisin'.
Bro cruise ships cost A LOT to maintain cuz things such as power and water are processed at a small scale on board. It would not make financial sense to use cruise ships as housing blocks.
@@daelbows5783 yep. That, and the owners have a LOT of money invested in them. To get some of that back, scrapping is the best way. Hopefully, the furniture and beds made their way to the folks of India who could use them.
Sometimes cruise ships are used for temporary housing. The usual candidates for those are special events like major sporting events (i.e. olympics) and sometimes as natural disaster temporary housing. Long term housing makes little economic sense due to the high maintenance costs of the ship's systems even if one kills engines and marine related systems.
@@poorwotan yeah, in those situations, housing is very scarce for a short period of time so people/governments are willing to pay extra for housing. It definitely won't work as a long term affordable housing building tho
@@poorwotan - you do realize that these are privately owned vessels, right?
As a former cruise ship employee and actually having cruises on a coupe of the ships now being scrapped in Turkey I find this a very interesting video. However, the constant “vocal fry” of the voice-over actor makes it hard to listen to. It actually hurts my throat just hearing it. Too bad that has become a “style”.
Cruise lines will bounce back . They have the bookings to prove it
Ozzyman reviews said what I think of the industry ( I will let you look that up)
Hohoho
Cruise ships are terrible for the environment. It'd be good to see a massive downsize in the industry.