That's must be hard for you. I once live in a house for quite a long time. And now the house gone becauss of road making. That's extremely sad. I was crying. So many memories. Even though i am not live in that house anymore, but to see it gone just hurt my heart.
Imagination was the first cruise ship I ever sailed on. I enjoyed the big indoor lobby area where you could see the all the elevators going up and down. Being aboard was very impressive for a 15 year old boy like me. I have been on several much bigger ships since but I will never forget Imagination.
People don’t seem to understand. If the cruise line couldn’t afford to keep them in basic operation, what makes anyone think someone else can afford to use them as a housing unit? Basic operational cost is extremely high
High cost price tags always come with a higher risk. Not many investors and millionaires seem to understand that. I learned that the easy way. I had a waterfront cottage off lake Erie. Neighborhood was trash; old 1950s cottages and trailers on blocks ran to the ground by the natural geography and/or drug addicts just not taking care of their houses. The corn field next to our neighborhood got sold to investors and turned into a housing complex for middle class, also waterfront. While they allowed houses on our side of the community to fall into the lake along with roads, they enforced breakers to keep the millionaires’ houses from falling in. Rose our taxes by SEVEN times and eventually I moved more in-land away from a consistent flood zone, also for less than 6 figures as when I had my house there. Almost 24 years later now and most of those “new” high cost houses aren’t withstanding. Looks no different than the ghetto side I moved from. They implemented a very strict HOA to secure the properties. Meanwhile I moved into a house that’s been standing since the Great Depression with minimal flaw. Some residents were so old they bought the houses new. Lesson learned. Invest minimal money, obtain some common sense, and you’ll be secure for the rest of your life with minimal risk. To live extravagant is more risky than it is costly.
This. People don't seem to have any concept of how ludicrously expensive it is to maintain anything that goes in the water. If they're really so concerned about housing homeless people (which I'm entirely in favor of, for the record), it'd be SIGNFICANTLY more efficient to scrap the ship, then take that money and use it to build a conventional building on land.
@@zackakai5173the amount of rooms and people it can hold won’t it be cheaper to just park that on land and house people I mean yeah they might not have full luxuries but they are housed?
I’m a marine engineer that’s working on a cruise ship. It’s very expensive to run cruise ships machinery especially on an older ship like this. Machinery breaks, you need new spare parts, man power and knowledge to fix it, the normal working machinery also needs regular maintenance and safety tests etc. Only way I could see cruise ship being used for housing is if you connect electricity from shore directly and stop sailing. It would lover the maintenance costs since you are not using engines anymore and everything to do with them, but the cost of electricity would be very high and even then people would have to be there every day to supervise other systems like waste water management, electrical systems etc…
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Every workplace in every industry in the entire world needs to ensure that employees are paid fairly and given PROPER PPE for the dangerous work alone. I’m a better person than you.
Carnival Fantasy, Carnival Imagination, and Carnival Inspiration Build by: Kvaerner Masa-Yards Helsinki New Shipyard Helsinki, Finland died too young in turkey.
Good! More steel for Turkey which can do the work in a safety regulation-compliant manner to EU standards. It would be cheap enough to add safety harnesses and respirators though. (Torch work itself is not difficult, I've done plenty, but breathing the fumes is unwise.) This is a far more professional operation than those at Alang etc. Good (temporary) riddance to the cruise industry which is mostly waste, but it will rebound as always and higher vessel turnover means more modern, safer vessels replacing old ships.
1:36 - Aliağa is wrong pointed on the map. It situated near Izmir, in Aegean Sea. The interesting fact, that I saw safety boats from Carnival Fantasy in Dalyan village, that is 300 km south of Izmir. They were lying near the local shipyard.
Watched a documentary about ship breakers there were loads of workers waiting to get jobs there wait near office close by ,anyway so many get killed doing this they seem to be expendable once one dies employ next bloke waiting at office most unexperienced conditions are horrendously dangerouse bosses dont care only thing they care about is hurry up .
Narration at the end states "it comes on the heels of a crumbling cruise industry"; cruising is not a crumbling industry now (far from it). People after the pandemic went insane with an appetite for cruising. It's so bad now I hear cruise ships frequently overbook. Buying cruise ship stocks must have been awesome during the pandemic.
I remember cruising on the Inspiration as a kid with my famility back in 2006. Good times but super strange feeling to see it in this video about to be dismantled
It’s all accounting, ships have a real value of zero after twenty years of depreciating. It’s cheaper to scrap them than to refurbish them. If you can’t deprecate them anymore it’s lost revenue to taxes increased maintenance and lost market value to new ships.
If you are curious about cruise line accounting, you may want to read the Carnival Cruise Annual Report. It's a 61 page document full of all kinds of information.
Because it tends to be stupidly expensive to actually do that. Like, significantly more so than just building a conventional hotel. The few ships that have done that successfully are very much the exception rather than the rule.
I graduated from Stevens Institute of Technology in Hoboken NJ, and before i went there, they had an old passenger ship that was moored in the Hudson River adjacent to the campus, that they used as a dorm for a few years. Heard it was pretty cool, but they eventually got rid of it was it was a giant heat-sink, and they could not keep it warm enough in the winter. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Stevens
Yep, but man do the shipyards out some of the most toxic waste. Image the other shipyards that aren't regulated. But then you don't see green peace showing up in those or hearing about them.
@@jamiecottington3966 yeah just let them live in some big rusty and moldy cruise ship with no water or electricity sitting in a noisy ass shipyard. Oh and you have to somehow manage a few thousand drug addicts and just pray that it doesn't turn into one giant crime filled drug den like most giant affordable housing units do...
So heartbreaking to see my favorite ships like this. Fantasy class ships were my favorite. The others are so big & too many people. Fantasy was our 1st cruise and took 2 on Inspiration.
Sad, I ve sailed multiple times each on 3 of the 5 cruise ships in this video. Inspiration, Imagination, and Monarch of the seas when it was with royal. All from Loas Angeles.
I suppose cruise ships are less efficient to scrap because all the valuable materials are covered with decorative trim that has to be removed and disposed of.
Why not dock or dry dock in a place like Redwood Shores, CA near San Francisco, and turn these into hotels or places for workers to stay? SFO airport area, S.F. docks around the Giants stadium or Oakland have deep port docks ... just tie them off, and use them as hotels, event spaces etc. Why take them apart? Is the steel more valuable than the potential value in the most expensive places to stay and live in the U.S.?
Good idea! But I think the problem was COVID. They made the decision to scrap these ships because COVID was killing cruise lines, and would have had the same effect on your idea to turn them into hotels.
There is lot more maintenance in maintaining a ship than a hotel of the same capacity. It has been done sometimes for special occasions (such as Olympics and other sporting events.) but it is too expensive to do for long periods. When they do make long-term offshore housing, they tend to use barges which are much simpler as they do not have engines. Examples of this are the Bibby Stockholm which was used to house construction workers and now is housing illegal immigrants in the UK, the APL 67 class barracks barges used by the US Navy, and the Vernon C. Bain Correctional Center which is a floating prison moored off of Riker's Island New York.
@@stvdagger8074 ... thanks for the reply. I would guess that making a dry dock (so as to use shore power and sewer etc.) is not politically feasible in many areas as well, but I would like to find out more. Aside from the Queen Mary (I think still floating, but in a "pond" with a protective rock wall) ... I can't think of another.
I don’t know if the last sentence of this video is correct. Every article I have read states that the cruise industry is actually thriving, not crumbling.
Video is 2 years old. It was crumbling after covid with children having to be vaccinated. Covid testing before boarding. Different countries having different restrictions. But now it’s better than ever.
@@deananthony1000 I think it will plateau in a year or two. People were very eager to get back onto ships after the restrictions were eased in 2023.......By 2025-26, I think the industry will level out again.
@@deananthony1000 Plus the cost needed to maintain the ship. Liability if some get hurt. The possibility that scavengers rip tat ship apart for a quick buck i would be bad if the bilge pumps get destroyed. This could be compounded if some break a sea-chest pipe . Plus the the cost of shore power. Plus the possibility of the ship breaking loos of it's mooring with out power and possibly sink
I think destroying these ships is a total waste. These ships really aren’t even that old. They should’ve tried to sell them to other cruise lines or something I couldn’t even work in a Shipard yard like this because I would hate to tear something so beautiful apart.
They should Consider "Senior Housing", "Low income Housing", "Refugee housing" or "Housing"! Likely, may need to combine 2 or so rooms into 1, Yet a POSSIBILITY to consider...
Watching years of people's happiness and dreams torn apart is very depressing. All the memories those walls helped build now torn apart. I was on Carnival Sensation once and now it is going through this year long tortureeous death is very sad. 😢
Because you typically use the ship for a few decades in between that point? This is like asking why you'd buy a computer only to replace it with a better computer four or five years later.
Down the drain? How many thousands of workers earned a living from construction thru use thru disassembly? The cycle is HUGE for every economy. No shame at all.
@@alanbiancardi2531 If you had been taking cruises some decades back you'd know what I mean. Thanks for the snide remark BTW. Really polite and helpful. That makes you part of the problem that caused cruises to deteriorate through the years.
Cruise ships made within the past 40 years do not have asbestos pipe insulation or radium in their gauges... time to do some more homework before you make a video.
This multi millions of dollars revenue should had in the php this is a great economical assit to a country no wonder why turkey now a day is getting richer they just don"t see the other bright side of it.
Just like to point out those cruise ships, they could dig front of a beach out in the shape of that ship, have a beautiful rear view of the ocean use those ships as hotels were living accommodations for entire villages they have water processing and sanitation running toilets and showers. It seems kind of stupid just to destroy them actually if you think about it. Those ships not floating have at least 30 more years of life in them especially if they were grounded properly on a beautiful beach seems kind of dumb that nobody’s thought of that❤DALE. It should be a lot nicer house than most of those poor countries have just pointing out a fact they could dig a trench and fill it with water at the ship pull right in the full length almost for 3/4 drop the anchors and then refill that trench back in from front to back with the sand they took out securing it permanently
Common people that dont work in this industry Doesn’t seen the bright side of this story and they only seen to Believes the cries of money grabber activist who seen in thier leftest point of view.
These cruise ships are my idea of hell. Spending two weeks in a gaudy floating holiday village with 3000 fat lardy people in comfy clothes and training shoes, eating their all-inclusive three buffet meals every day and getting pissed.
I get that ships NEED to be scrapped and recycled, but these ships still had soo much life left .. I don’t understand why they couldn’t just anchor them off the coast in the gulf for a year or two and waited the pandemic (that shouldn’t have even happened in the first place) to end, or at least sold them to a company for a discount so they could be used after the pandemic .. just sell them at a price just above what the scrappers would pay.. that allows the buyer to buy them, and sit on them with enough money to justify the wait
Then there would be thousands of rooms the new owners could sell cheaper than you selling rooms on your brand new expensive ships. Would be great as floating prisons though.
@@jimtewa8096 reminds of ss imperator she degraded during ww1 while she sat inactive and Cunard who bought her to replace Lusitania, she was in unacceptable condition and need work.
A laid up ship is still expensive. Chris Frame on his You Tube channel talked about "hot" and "cold" lay ups. An unused ship with the AC and/or heat along with dehumidifiers is expensive. A ship that is just sitting without those operating will quickly deteriorate.
Wow o wow unbelievable what the hell turkey is in crisis with homelessness and these fit for purpose ship WOULD have solved that problem wot are these company's thinking of the Government can put sanctions on Billionaire Yachts but so why can't they do the same to these Cruise ships witch would make amazing temporary homes wow wow wow
You would need to take these ships to a ship yard seal all water inlets and sea-chests touch up the antifouling, set up an sacrificial anodes. Also. All it would take is a few scavengers to rip things apart for stuff like copper for for the homeless camp idea go bust and the repair cost is beyond what it's reasonable worth leaving the best option is scrapping. Plus the liability if some one is hurt Plus you would need security for the engine works because the homeless or scavengers could damage something important down there like bilge pumps scavengers are unlikely to care that pump is meant to pump out water if the ship springs a leak, theirs copper to be taken. Something could also go wrong with the ship unmaintained or damage from scavengers could result in a sea chest leak and dead bilge pumps that result in the ship sinking which if you lucky is on an even keel in shallow water, unlucky capsize and or sink in deep water. Now your getting sued family that didn't care some of those people till their dead and there is money to made made for suing , plus the suing from survivors, plus the penetrates for an unmaintained ship penalties , fines if the wreck blocks ship traffic, penetrates if concomitants leak from the wreck, plus the cost of possibly raising the wreck.
All it would take is a few scavengers to rip things apart for stuff like copper for the rent a room idea to go bust and the repair cost is beyond what it's reasonable worth leaving the best option is scrapping. Plus the liability if some one is hurt Plus you would need security for the engine works because the homeless or scavengers damage something important down there like bilge pumps scavengers are unlikely to care that pump is meant to pump out water if the ship springs a leak theirs copper . Something could also go wrong with the ship unmaintained or damage from scavengers could result in a sea chest leak and dead bilge pumps that result in the ship sinking which if you lucky is on an even keel in shallow water, unlucky capsize and or sink in deep water. Now your getting sued family that didn't care some of those people till their dead and there is money to made made for suing , plus the suing from survivors, plus the penetrates for an unmaintained ship penalties , fines if the wreck blocks ship traffic, penetrates if concomitants leak from the wreck, plus the cost of possibly raising the wreck.
Sad for me that need stupid EU to make some chnages to make this business better for nature. Like people can't make this from the start...hmm. In places like India this is just one of the worse place to work. Worth to watch doc. about it.
We have millions of unhoused people in the US with governments spending billions to house them, meanwhile we are chopping up the obvious solution to the low income housing crisis.
I answered and said, "If I have found favor in thy sight, O Lord, show this also to thy servant: whether after death, as soon as every one of us yields up his soul, we shall be kept in rest until those times come when thou wilt renew the creation, or whether we shall be tormented at once?" 76 He answered me and said, "I will show you that also, but do not be associated with those who have shown scorn, nor number yourself among those who are tormented. 77 For you have a treasure of works laid up with the Most High; but it will not be shown to you until the last times. 78 Now, concerning death, the teaching is: When the decisive decree has gone forth from the Most High that a man shall die, as the spirit leaves the body to return again to him who gave it, first of all it adores the glory of the Most High. 79 And if it is one of those who have shown scorn and have not kept the way of the Most High, and who have despised his law, and who have hated those who fear the Most High -- 80 such spirits shall not enter into habitations, but shall immediately wander about in torments, ever grieving and sad, in seven ways. 81 The first way, because they have scorned the law of the Most High. 82 The second way, because they cannot now make a good repentance that they may live. 83 The third way, they shall see the reward laid up for those who have trusted the covenants of the Most High. 84 The fourth way, they shall consider the torment laid up for themselves in the last days. 85 The fifth way, they shall see how the habitations of the others are guarded by angels in profound quiet. 86 The sixth way, they shall see how some of them will pass over into torments. 87 The seventh way, which is worse than all the ways that have been mentioned, because they shall utterly waste away in confusion and be consumed with shame, and shall wither with fear at seeing the glory of the Most High before whom they sinned while they were alive, and before whom they are to be judged in the last times. 88 "Now this is the order of those who have kept the ways of the Most High, when they shall be separated from their mortal body. 89 During the time that they lived in it, they laboriously served the Most High, and withstood danger every hour, that they might keep the law of the Lawgiver perfectly. 90 Therefore this is the teaching concerning them: 91 First of all, they shall see with great joy the glory of him who receives them, for they shall have rest in seven orders. 92 The first order, because they have striven with great effort to overcome the evil thought which was formed with them, that it might not lead them astray from life into death. 93 The second order, because they see the perplexity in which the souls of the unrighteous wander, and the punishment that awaits them. 94 The third order, they see the witness which he who formed them bears concerning them, that while they were alive they kept the law which was given them in trust. 95 The fourth order, they understand the rest which they now enjoy, being gathered into their chambers and guarded by angels in profound quiet, and the glory which awaits them in the last days. 96 The fifth order, they rejoice that they have now escaped what is corruptible, and shall inherit what is to come; and besides they see the straits and toil from which they have been delivered, and the spacious liberty which they are to receive and enjoy in immortality. 97 The sixth order, when it is shown to them how their face is to shine like the sun, and how they are to be made like the light of the stars, being incorruptible from then on. 98 The seventh order, which is greater than all that have been mentioned, because they shall rejoice with boldness, and shall be confident without confusion, and shall be glad without fear, for they hasten to behold the face of him whom they served in life and from whom they are to receive their reward when glorified. 99 This is the order of the souls of the righteous, as henceforth is announced; and the aforesaid are the ways of torment which those who would not give heed shall suffer hereafter." 100 I answered and said, "Will time therefore be given to the souls, after they have been separated from the bodies, to see what you have described to me?" 101 He said to me, "They shall have freedom for seven days, so that during these seven days they may see the things of which you have been told, and afterwards they shall be gathered in their habitations." 102 I answered and said, "If I have found favor in thy sight, show further to me, thy servant, whether on the day of judgment the righteous will be able to intercede for the unrighteous or to entreat the Most High for them, 103 fathers for sons or sons for parents, brothers for brothers, relatives for their kinsmen, or friends for those who are most dear." 104 He answered me and said, "Since you have found favor in my sight, I will show you this also. The day of judgment is decisive and displays to all the seal of truth. Just as now a father does not send his son, or a son his father, or a master his servant, or a friend his dearest friend, to be ill or sleep or eat or be healed in his stead, 105 so no one shall ever pray for another on that day, neither shall any one lay a burden on another; for then every one shall bear his own righteousness and unrighteousness." 2 Esdras 7:75 //////////////////////
My guess is that the maintenance costs would be enormous. Too the inconvenience of getting people back and forth along with the possible distance from jobs, goods, and services.
The carnival imagination was the first ship I worked on as a musician…such a bittersweet feeling
That's must be hard for you. I once live in a house for quite a long time. And now the house gone becauss of road making. That's extremely sad. I was crying. So many memories. Even though i am not live in that house anymore, but to see it gone just hurt my heart.
Imagination was the first cruise ship I ever sailed on. I enjoyed the big indoor lobby area where you could see the all the elevators going up and down. Being aboard was very impressive for a 15 year old boy like me. I have been on several much bigger ships since but I will never forget Imagination.
@@lemmingsflyCarnival Imagination was also my first cruise! Very nice ship
The Imagination was my first ever cruise! 3 days to the Bahamas. My friend had her wedding reception on the ship. 😢❤
First make and then break.Dont know what this human race actually wants.Gold commode or grass ground, purpose is the same. 😮
People don’t seem to understand. If the cruise line couldn’t afford to keep them in basic operation, what makes anyone think someone else can afford to use them as a housing unit? Basic operational cost is extremely high
High cost price tags always come with a higher risk. Not many investors and millionaires seem to understand that. I learned that the easy way.
I had a waterfront cottage off lake Erie. Neighborhood was trash; old 1950s cottages and trailers on blocks ran to the ground by the natural geography and/or drug addicts just not taking care of their houses. The corn field next to our neighborhood got sold to investors and turned into a housing complex for middle class, also waterfront. While they allowed houses on our side of the community to fall into the lake along with roads, they enforced breakers to keep the millionaires’ houses from falling in. Rose our taxes by SEVEN times and eventually I moved more in-land away from a consistent flood zone, also for less than 6 figures as when I had my house there.
Almost 24 years later now and most of those “new” high cost houses aren’t withstanding. Looks no different than the ghetto side I moved from. They implemented a very strict HOA to secure the properties. Meanwhile I moved into a house that’s been standing since the Great Depression with minimal flaw. Some residents were so old they bought the houses new. Lesson learned. Invest minimal money, obtain some common sense, and you’ll be secure for the rest of your life with minimal risk. To live extravagant is more risky than it is costly.
It’s just a nice thing to say. “Think of the unhoused! Why won’t someone think of the poor! Ok, my work here is done. I feel good about myself.”
This. People don't seem to have any concept of how ludicrously expensive it is to maintain anything that goes in the water. If they're really so concerned about housing homeless people (which I'm entirely in favor of, for the record), it'd be SIGNFICANTLY more efficient to scrap the ship, then take that money and use it to build a conventional building on land.
@@zackakai5173the amount of rooms and people it can hold won’t it be cheaper to just park that on land and house people I mean yeah they might not have full luxuries but they are housed?
I’m a marine engineer that’s working on a cruise ship. It’s very expensive to run cruise ships machinery especially on an older ship like this. Machinery breaks, you need new spare parts, man power and knowledge to fix it, the normal working machinery also needs regular maintenance and safety tests etc.
Only way I could see cruise ship being used for housing is if you connect electricity from shore directly and stop sailing. It would lover the maintenance costs since you are not using engines anymore and everything to do with them, but the cost of electricity would be very high and even then people would have to be there every day to supervise other systems like waste water management, electrical systems etc…
This is a really nice breakers yard. In other places it's barefoot 14 year olds running the cutting torches.
Yeah this is Turkey, not a country like Bangladesh
Them and their 14 siblings.
I've seen a lot of these yards and have never seen kids running torches. That's a better paying job.
yeah, places like Alang or Chitagong...
@@daviaraujo777can't do that at Alang now, don't know about Gadani or Chittagong
I wonder what the profit margin is on a 100,000+ ton cruise ship with scrap steel at $320/ton (US prices). Seems like a steal for some steel to me.
Steal for some steel. Oh, I see what you did there.
32,000,000$
Similar sum sounding smooth sailing sale steel south 33m$
32,000,000$
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sale sum sound. Sold Similar south of33m$
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The steel doesn't weigh 100,000 tons.
This Whole industry needs to ensure that employees are paid fairly and given PROPER PPE for the dangerous work done.
The CEO appeared to be well taken care of. I wonder if the care given to him will trickle down.
Every workplace in every industry in the entire world needs to ensure that employees are paid fairly and given PROPER PPE for the dangerous work alone.
I’m a better person than you.
sand people don't care about those things forget about it
Hahaha your funny
@@GorGob neither do the mud and dung people from the west , why do you think they send it there? Cos its CHEAP
Carnival Fantasy, Carnival Imagination, and Carnival Inspiration
Build by:
Kvaerner Masa-Yards
Helsinki New Shipyard
Helsinki, Finland
died too young in turkey.
Casualties of the Great Pandemic of 2020.
and Ecstasy not long after
Worked on ecstasy year 1991
Crumbling cruise industry? Booming now again.
Makes me wonder if they regret scrapping these ships. The ships could have easily lasted another 10 years with proper maintenance and refits.
@TheBigExclusive you clearly don't know anything about ships.
A lost opportunity for the Church of Scientology to upgrade and attract new recruits.
Good! More steel for Turkey which can do the work in a safety regulation-compliant manner to EU standards. It would be cheap enough to add safety harnesses and respirators though. (Torch work itself is not difficult, I've done plenty, but breathing the fumes is unwise.) This is a far more professional operation than those at Alang etc. Good (temporary) riddance to the cruise industry which is mostly waste, but it will rebound as always and higher vessel turnover means more modern, safer vessels replacing old ships.
Hard to see the Sovereign class ships there for scrapping. Sovereign of the Seas was groundbreaking when first launched.
It was my first ship as a Security Officer in '97
1:36 - Aliağa is wrong pointed on the map. It situated near Izmir, in Aegean Sea. The interesting fact, that I saw safety boats from Carnival Fantasy in Dalyan village, that is 300 km south of Izmir. They were lying near the local shipyard.
Watched a documentary about ship breakers there were loads of workers waiting to get jobs there wait near office close by ,anyway so many get killed doing this they seem to be expendable once one dies employ next bloke waiting at office most unexperienced conditions are horrendously dangerouse bosses dont care only thing they care about is hurry up .
To think at that time it was cheaper for them to scrap them instead of sitting on them. Our world will never be the same after the last 4 years. ☹️
Narration at the end states "it comes on the heels of a crumbling cruise industry"; cruising is not a crumbling industry now (far from it). People after the pandemic went insane with an appetite for cruising. It's so bad now I hear cruise ships frequently overbook. Buying cruise ship stocks must have been awesome during the pandemic.
I went on my first RCC this year and it was pretty awesome. I'm definitely interested in doing another cruise again soon
I remember cruising on the Inspiration as a kid with my famility back in 2006. Good times but super strange feeling to see it in this video about to be dismantled
is there an online site where they auction off what they take from the ship that an every buyer can buy?
Unsure let me know if you find out
Most off the auctions are private and happen locally
This is really sad. I see no reason why these cruise ships need to be destroyed.
It must be really eerie being the captain and few staff on board for the journey to the yard. Legit ghost ships.
Damn, the covid cost billion for the cruise industry
The post covid industry has far surpassed any losses. Ships are booked thru 2024 already.
Good riddance
People fell for the fakedemic. Glad we are pure bloods
Ship-breaking depresses me for some reason.
Probably because these monoliths to consumerism and extreme decadence are being dumped like an old school project
I wonder if they regretted getting rid of the ships after the lockdowns were done. People have been booking cruises like crazy.
It’s all accounting, ships have a real value of zero after twenty years of depreciating. It’s cheaper to scrap them than to refurbish them. If you can’t deprecate them anymore it’s lost revenue to taxes increased maintenance and lost market value to new ships.
If you are curious about cruise line accounting, you may want to read the Carnival Cruise Annual Report. It's a 61 page document full of all kinds of information.
The carnival inspiration was the first cruise I went on so much memories really sad to see it go😢
Why not convert to a hotel by the sea ?
Buy it and do it. The cruise company did this to take as a write off to offset their loses.
Would need to be a hotel by the port !!!!!! Parking fees are outrageous so wouldn’t be cheap
Because it tends to be stupidly expensive to actually do that. Like, significantly more so than just building a conventional hotel. The few ships that have done that successfully are very much the exception rather than the rule.
I graduated from Stevens Institute of Technology in Hoboken NJ, and before i went there, they had an old passenger ship that was moored in the Hudson River adjacent to the campus, that they used as a dorm for a few years. Heard it was pretty cool, but they eventually got rid of it was it was a giant heat-sink, and they could not keep it warm enough in the winter. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Stevens
Yep, but man do the shipyards out some of the most toxic waste. Image the other shipyards that aren't regulated. But then you don't see green peace showing up in those or hearing about them.
These ship have how many rooms ??? Homelessness???
@@jamiecottington3966ok who’s gonna pay for that ??? YOU??? Easy to say something stupid without thinking about the ramifications.
Vice did a story on the one in Bangladesh. Needless to say, the conditions are much worse
@@jamiecottington3966 yeah just let them live in some big rusty and moldy cruise ship with no water or electricity sitting in a noisy ass shipyard. Oh and you have to somehow manage a few thousand drug addicts and just pray that it doesn't turn into one giant crime filled drug den like most giant affordable housing units do...
They go after Western countries for this stuff because if they did it in India or Pakistan, they would be likely ending up face down in the water.
Those are absolutely beautiful ships and I hate seeing them being ripped apart like this.
First cruise was on Fantacy in 94
So heartbreaking to see my favorite ships like this. Fantasy class ships were my favorite. The others are so big & too many people. Fantasy was our 1st cruise and took 2 on Inspiration.
"So we recycle the entire ship, except for the plastic, which we micronize and pour directly into the water, ground, and atmosphere"
So. Needs to go somewhere
@@alanbiancardi2531 no, you should like the enviornment.
Messed Up A Cruise ship could be in use for like 10 Years but gets Removed now.. All that waste
Sad, I ve sailed multiple times each on 3 of the 5 cruise ships in this video. Inspiration, Imagination, and Monarch of the seas when it was with royal. All from Loas Angeles.
But you notice we don't break them down in the US? Wonder why?
Wow turkey need temperature home wot a waste
@@jst1mandon’t build them in us either !!!!
Our waistlines rejoice at the destruction of those floating shrines of gluttony
These shipbreaking facilities have to be some of the most dangerous jobsites on earth.
I suppose cruise ships are less efficient to scrap because all the valuable materials are covered with decorative trim that has to be removed and disposed of.
These giant trash buckets shouldn't be built in the first place. Such largesse is truly disgusting.
Have you ever even been on one? If you could afford to take a trip on one, your viewpoint would change instantly!
Hopefully Aliaga gets more ships instead of Alang.
Why
@@bineetgupta They do this properly without recklessly endangering workers and without polluting the surrounding environment especially the asbestos.
Heartbreaking to watch the destruction of those nice ships
It's a sad sight.
those were the janky ships. the newer ones are nicer
Why not dock or dry dock in a place like Redwood Shores, CA near San Francisco, and turn these into hotels or places for workers to stay? SFO airport area, S.F. docks around the Giants stadium or Oakland have deep port docks ... just tie them off, and use them as hotels, event spaces etc. Why take them apart? Is the steel more valuable than the potential value in the most expensive places to stay and live in the U.S.?
Good idea! But I think the problem was COVID. They made the decision to scrap these ships because COVID was killing cruise lines, and would have had the same effect on your idea to turn them into hotels.
There is lot more maintenance in maintaining a ship than a hotel of the same capacity. It has been done sometimes for special occasions (such as Olympics and other sporting events.) but it is too expensive to do for long periods. When they do make long-term offshore housing, they tend to use barges which are much simpler as they do not have engines. Examples of this are the Bibby Stockholm which was used to house construction workers and now is housing illegal immigrants in the UK, the APL 67 class barracks barges used by the US Navy, and the Vernon C. Bain Correctional Center which is a floating prison moored off of Riker's Island New York.
@@stvdagger8074 ... thanks for the reply. I would guess that making a dry dock (so as to use shore power and sewer etc.) is not politically feasible in many areas as well, but I would like to find out more. Aside from the Queen Mary (I think still floating, but in a "pond" with a protective rock wall) ... I can't think of another.
I don’t know if the last sentence of this video is correct. Every article I have read states that the cruise industry is actually thriving, not crumbling.
Video is 2 years old. It was crumbling after covid with children having to be vaccinated. Covid testing before boarding. Different countries having different restrictions. But now it’s better than ever.
@@deananthony1000 I think it will plateau in a year or two.
People were very eager to get back onto ships after the restrictions were eased in 2023.......By 2025-26, I think the industry will level out again.
Pent up demand after Covid. For a lot of things. Hence inflation.
This country must bring in better law for its workers and wages . And health and safety laws also
As if the Indian government cares about the environment.
Ask the automobile manufacturers in India then you will know 😂
This is not 1980s
why cant govt buy these ships and convert them to temporarily housing for the homeless. i mean they could do that for the meantime.
Unless government owns a port the parking charges are outrageous.
@@deananthony1000
Plus the cost needed to maintain the ship.
Liability if some get hurt.
The possibility that scavengers rip tat ship apart for a quick buck i would be bad if the bilge pumps get destroyed. This could be compounded if some break a sea-chest pipe .
Plus the the cost of shore power.
Plus the possibility of the ship breaking loos of it's mooring with out power and possibly sink
As a government employee, I would not give 2 shytes about the homeless
So you want waste even more billions of other people's money. How about no. Get a job.
Wait cops and firefighters always say they have the most dangerous jobs? Why would they lie?
How do I get this job
I think destroying these ships is a total waste. These ships really aren’t even that old. They should’ve tried to sell them to other cruise lines or something I couldn’t even work in a Shipard yard like this because I would hate to tear something so beautiful apart.
How can i buy the old gym equipment from these ships?
Terrible script. Speak to an engineer before preparing your scripts.
What do workers get paid? India about 20 cents an hour.
I would love to buy one thats in decent condition
if you can scrounge up somewhere around 50 million dollars, sure!
2,000 people. Wait until they start dismantling the 6,000 capacity ships. 😅
One day The Icon of The Seas will be there, possibly.
Why don't they relocate them to parts of the world who have problems housing the homeless, or refugees..? Or even as a floating hotel..?
Man, we are so wasteful.
So?
@@alanbiancardi2531 you try to answer that question and tell me why it doesn't matter.
They make this disaster, and after they banning as to drink from plastic tubes, what an hypocrisy in Europe 😮
Funny at the end of the video they mention scrap iron and thats the biggest pay off for this old ships!
I bet they wish they held onto them ships as business is booming now
Getting a cruise liner into your house in Bangladesh in 2024. I will have all of the toilets for recycling thanks.
They should Consider "Senior Housing", "Low income Housing", "Refugee housing" or "Housing"!
Likely, may need to combine 2 or so rooms into 1, Yet a POSSIBILITY to consider...
Low income housing on a ship that costs millions to maintain? 😂 are you the billionaire that's going to pay for it? You should consider it.
Watching years of people's happiness and dreams torn apart is very depressing. All the memories those walls helped build now torn apart. I was on Carnival Sensation once and now it is going through this year long tortureeous death is very sad. 😢
It’s a ship
It's just a thing. Why the drama?
Seriously dude?
its just a boring ass cruise ship, looks identical to every single other one.
In the end a ship has a life cycle and the steel is reused.
What’s the point of building a ship and then taking it apart?
Tax right off to keep the company going.
Same point as why it’s done to cars busses and planes 😂
Because you typically use the ship for a few decades in between that point? This is like asking why you'd buy a computer only to replace it with a better computer four or five years later.
all manufacturers should be obliged to take back and dispose of their ships after use and not shift the problem to Pakistan, Bangladesh and India
Do the Franchise owners sell them or get a tax right off?
Both, tax right off for loss
Still waiting for carnival Triumph to be decommissioned, considering how full of poop it was after 2013
Im sure all these employees are paid accordingly to this type of hazardous work environment right?..... lmao
Carnival picked there because it payed the most.
Can you re-upload without the annoying subtitles?
I no longer like cruises, but it's still a shame all that money down the drain.
@@randycastillo4530 No.
Down the drain? How many thousands of workers earned a living from construction thru use thru disassembly? The cycle is HUGE for every economy. No shame at all.
Good more room for us
@@alanbiancardi2531 If you had been taking cruises some decades back you'd know what I mean.
Thanks for the snide remark BTW. Really polite and helpful. That makes you part of the problem that caused cruises to deteriorate through the years.
Cruise ships made within the past 40 years do not have asbestos pipe insulation or radium in their gauges... time to do some more homework before you make a video.
This multi millions of dollars revenue should had in the php this is a great economical assit to a country no wonder why turkey now a day is getting richer they just don"t see the other bright side of it.
Pretty much zero care for the health and safety of workers. Shameful!
This is disgusting! Why can't they do something with them other than destroy them?!
Just like to point out those cruise ships, they could dig front of a beach out in the shape of that ship, have a beautiful rear view of the ocean use those ships as hotels were living accommodations for entire villages they have water processing and sanitation running toilets and showers. It seems kind of stupid just to destroy them actually if you think about it. Those ships not floating have at least 30 more years of life in them especially if they were grounded properly on a beautiful beach seems kind of dumb that nobody’s thought of that❤DALE. It should be a lot nicer house than most of those poor countries have just pointing out a fact they could dig a trench and fill it with water at the ship pull right in the full length almost for 3/4 drop the anchors and then refill that trench back in from front to back with the sand they took out securing it permanently
🚢 ship destroying......how running
Muito bom
cruise ships? more like snooze ships! amirite fellas
Gold
in the steel plant, they burn the hundreds of tons poisonous paint from the steelplates,...............
Common people that dont work in this industry Doesn’t seen the bright side of this story and they only seen to Believes the cries of money grabber activist who seen in thier leftest point of view.
Cash for clunkers cruise ship, you can receive up to $4.5 Million toward your new fuel effecient ship when you trade in your old cruise ship.
Sad to see ships being broken, But I understand the $$$.
I wonder how much crap theyre getting into the ocean
These cruise ships are my idea of hell. Spending two weeks in a gaudy floating holiday village with 3000 fat lardy people in comfy clothes and training shoes, eating their all-inclusive three buffet meals every day and getting pissed.
Good stay home then.
Glad you think that, one less person to take the island cabana before I can!
Good thing you can't afford it anyway
WHY DON'T THE USE THE LATEST CUTTING EQUIPTMENT LAZORS
The use Lazors to build new ships. I don’t think they portable so can’t be used to dismantle
What does plandemic has in common with beautiful ships ffs
They could not operate the ships.
I get that ships NEED to be scrapped and recycled, but these ships still had soo much life left .. I don’t understand why they couldn’t just anchor them off the coast in the gulf for a year or two and waited the pandemic (that shouldn’t have even happened in the first place) to end, or at least sold them to a company for a discount so they could be used after the pandemic .. just sell them at a price just above what the scrappers would pay.. that allows the buyer to buy them, and sit on them with enough money to justify the wait
Then there would be thousands of rooms the new owners could sell cheaper than you selling rooms on your brand new expensive ships. Would be great as floating prisons though.
Its the maintenance costs, everything has to be kept running at a low state.
@@jimtewa8096 reminds of ss imperator she degraded during ww1 while she sat inactive and Cunard who bought her to replace Lusitania, she was in unacceptable condition and need work.
A laid up ship is still expensive. Chris Frame on his You Tube channel talked about "hot" and "cold" lay ups. An unused ship with the AC and/or heat along with dehumidifiers is expensive. A ship that is just sitting without those operating will quickly deteriorate.
@@andrewbrendan1579 I’d argue that spending 500,000,000 million + on a new ship is a lot MORE expensive lol
Hello I would like to sell 3 of my boats who has contact details of the companies?
Ships go to Breakers , they are not or ever Demolished.
You will never know where you used dunny and kitchen will come from in 2024?
Thats really sad
What do they do with all the contents of these ships, like the tables, chairs, refrigerator units, freezers, beds & couches, etc....?????
Didn’t actually watch the video, did you? 🙄
Such short sighted solution. Just due to shutdown by pandemic.
Not at all. The daily running cost of a ship with no passengers is huge.
Wow o wow unbelievable what the hell turkey is in crisis with homelessness and these fit for purpose ship WOULD have solved that problem wot are these company's thinking of the Government can put sanctions on Billionaire Yachts but so why can't they do the same to these Cruise ships witch would make amazing temporary homes wow wow wow
you are not a problem solver
You would need to take these ships to a ship yard seal all water inlets and sea-chests touch up the antifouling, set up an sacrificial anodes.
Also.
All it would take is a few scavengers to rip things apart for stuff like copper for for the homeless camp idea go bust and the repair cost is beyond what it's reasonable worth leaving the best option is scrapping.
Plus the liability if some one is hurt
Plus you would need security for the engine works because the homeless or scavengers could damage something important down there like bilge pumps scavengers are unlikely to care that pump is meant to pump out water if the ship springs a leak, theirs copper to be taken.
Something could also go wrong with the ship unmaintained or damage from scavengers could result in a sea chest leak and dead bilge pumps that result in the ship sinking which if you lucky is on an even keel in shallow water, unlucky capsize and or sink in deep water. Now your getting sued family that didn't care some of those people till their dead and there is money to made made for suing , plus the suing from survivors, plus the penetrates for an unmaintained ship penalties , fines if the wreck blocks ship traffic, penetrates if concomitants leak from the wreck, plus the cost of possibly raising the wreck.
Why not rent the rooms out to the homeless so they have a home? No just destroy it?
Good thinking, you know they have money for everything but fixing proverty
Port parking fees are outrageous so wouldn’t work out cheap.
All it would take is a few scavengers to rip things apart for stuff like copper for the rent a room idea to go bust and the repair cost is beyond what it's reasonable worth leaving the best option is scrapping.
Plus the liability if some one is hurt
Plus you would need security for the engine works because the homeless or scavengers damage something important down there like bilge pumps scavengers are unlikely to care that pump is meant to pump out water if the ship springs a leak theirs copper .
Something could also go wrong with the ship unmaintained or damage from scavengers could result in a sea chest leak and dead bilge pumps that result in the ship sinking which if you lucky is on an even keel in shallow water, unlucky capsize and or sink in deep water. Now your getting sued family that didn't care some of those people till their dead and there is money to made made for suing , plus the suing from survivors, plus the penetrates for an unmaintained ship penalties , fines if the wreck blocks ship traffic, penetrates if concomitants leak from the wreck, plus the cost of possibly raising the wreck.
Yes,because the homeless can afford the thousands a month in maintenance. That's why they are homeless. 🙃
@yesterdayseyes ok so gov can't use taxes to help people just to keep them down?
What a waste could be used for housing for people plus medical care /hospitals
Sad for me that need stupid EU to make some chnages to make this business better for nature. Like people can't make this from the start...hmm.
In places like India this is just one of the worse place to work. Worth to watch doc. about it.
We have millions of unhoused people in the US with governments spending billions to house them, meanwhile we are chopping up the obvious solution to the low income housing crisis.
Low income apartments that cost millions to maintain. Ok short bus. Are you going to foot the bill?
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Stack em together and make a city off the coastline.
I answered and said, "If I have found favor in thy sight, O Lord, show this also to thy servant: whether after death, as soon as every one of us yields up his soul, we shall be kept in rest until those times come when thou wilt renew the creation, or whether we shall be tormented at once?" 76 He answered me and said, "I will show you that also, but do not be associated with those who have shown scorn, nor number yourself among those who are tormented. 77 For you have a treasure of works laid up with the Most High; but it will not be shown to you until the last times.
78 Now, concerning death, the teaching is: When the decisive decree has gone forth from the Most High that a man shall die, as the spirit leaves the body to return again to him who gave it, first of all it adores the glory of the Most High. 79 And if it is one of those who have shown scorn and have not kept the way of the Most High, and who have despised his law, and who have hated those who fear the Most High -- 80 such spirits shall not enter into habitations, but shall immediately wander about in torments, ever grieving and sad, in seven ways.
81 The first way, because they have scorned the law of the Most High. 82 The second way, because they cannot now make a good repentance that they may live. 83 The third way, they shall see the reward laid up for those who have trusted the covenants of the Most High. 84 The fourth way, they shall consider the torment laid up for themselves in the last days. 85 The fifth way, they shall see how the habitations of the others are guarded by angels in profound quiet. 86 The sixth way, they shall see how some of them will pass over into torments. 87 The seventh way, which is worse than all the ways that have been mentioned, because they shall utterly waste away in confusion and be consumed with shame, and shall wither with fear at seeing the glory of the Most High before whom they sinned while they were alive, and before whom they are to be judged in the last times.
88 "Now this is the order of those who have kept the ways of the Most High, when they shall be separated from their mortal body. 89 During the time that they lived in it, they laboriously served the Most High, and withstood danger every hour, that they might keep the law of the Lawgiver perfectly. 90 Therefore this is the teaching concerning them: 91 First of all, they shall see with great joy the glory of him who receives them, for they shall have rest in seven orders.
92 The first order, because they have striven with great effort to overcome the evil thought which was formed with them, that it might not lead them astray from life into death. 93 The second order, because they see the perplexity in which the souls of the unrighteous wander, and the punishment that awaits them. 94 The third order, they see the witness which he who formed them bears concerning them, that while they were alive they kept the law which was given them in trust. 95 The fourth order, they understand the rest which they now enjoy, being gathered into their chambers and guarded by angels in profound quiet, and the glory which awaits them in the last days. 96 The fifth order, they rejoice that they have now escaped what is corruptible, and shall inherit what is to come;
and besides they see the straits and toil from which they have been delivered, and the spacious liberty which they are to receive and enjoy in immortality. 97 The sixth order, when it is shown to them how their face is to shine like the sun, and how they are to be made like the light of the stars, being incorruptible from then on. 98 The seventh order, which is greater than all that have been mentioned, because they shall rejoice with boldness, and shall be confident without confusion, and shall be glad without fear, for they hasten to behold the face of him whom they served in life and from whom they are to receive their reward when glorified.
99 This is the order of the souls of the righteous, as henceforth is announced; and the aforesaid are the ways of torment which those who would not give heed shall suffer hereafter." 100 I answered and said, "Will time therefore be given to the souls, after they have been separated from the bodies, to see what you have described to me?" 101 He said to me, "They shall have freedom for seven days, so that during these seven days they may see the things of which you have been told, and afterwards they shall be gathered in their habitations."
102 I answered and said, "If I have found favor in thy sight, show further to me, thy servant, whether on the day of judgment the righteous will be able to intercede for the unrighteous or to entreat the Most High for them, 103 fathers for sons or sons for parents, brothers for brothers, relatives for their kinsmen, or friends for those who are most dear." 104 He answered me and said, "Since you have found favor in my sight, I will show you this also. The day of judgment is decisive and displays to all the seal of truth. Just as now a father does not send his son, or a son his father, or a master his servant, or a friend his dearest friend, to be ill or sleep or eat or be healed in his stead, 105 so no one shall ever pray for another on that day, neither shall any one lay a burden on another; for then every one shall bear his own righteousness and unrighteousness." 2 Esdras 7:75
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Crumbling cruise industry? lol. Just check out the Icon of the Seas.
Video is 2 years old 😂
i bet the qorkers are sleeping on board the cruise ships ..sleeping in the cabins and playing mini golf
AHEM...THEY AREN'T BLOWTORCHES THEY ARE CALLED OXY-ACETYLENE TORCHES. Source I'm a welder/cutter myself.
Why can't they park them off the coast, floating apartments
My guess is that the maintenance costs would be enormous. Too the inconvenience of getting people back and forth along with the possible distance from jobs, goods, and services.
Waste of resources, pollution, lives at risk.