Why All Planes Take This Overcrowded Path Across The Atlantic Ocean - Cheddar Explains

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  • @ExcretumTaurum
    @ExcretumTaurum 4 роки тому +1359

    That 787 did not break the sound barrier. There is a difference between airspeed and ground speed.

    • @zackaplowitz
      @zackaplowitz 4 роки тому +44

      Ah, someone else noticed.

    • @johnj8639
      @johnj8639 4 роки тому +20

      It is technically possible it did if it hit turbulent air it’s moment could’ve carried it through allowing it to be super sonic even if only briefly

    • @cfield2434
      @cfield2434 4 роки тому +11

      100%. I was going to post the same, but happy others got to it first.

    • @ExcretumTaurum
      @ExcretumTaurum 4 роки тому +7

      @Nicolas IIRC there was an Air China 747 that had a nose dive just off the California coast back in the 80s (?). I think that one might have briefly been supersonic. Either way it did lose some body panels.

    • @almerindaromeira8352
      @almerindaromeira8352 4 роки тому +44

      @Nicolas cheddar got it wrong. For an airplane the only important speed is airspeed which is the speed of the airplane relative to the air surrounding it. Groundspeed is the speed of the aircraft as measured by an observer on the ground. It was this one that "broke" the theoretical speed of sound. It doesn't really mean anything. Jet stream is an air mass from west to east and does indeed speed the journey up. However the airspeed remains subsonic because the whole air around the aircraft is moving in the same direction. The sound barrier itself is only broken when you reach an airspeed (meaning relative to the air around you) higher that said number (depending on altitude and temperature).
      I don't know if that made sense. Feel free to ask, maybe someone explains it better than me or you can read the Wikipedia on airspeed. There are IAS, TAS and CAS.

  • @zackaplowitz
    @zackaplowitz 4 роки тому +828

    One correction: The Virgin 787 did NOT break the sound barrier. Its airspeed did not change. It did not move faster in relation to the air, which is what the speed of sound is based on - the sound barrier does not care how fast you are across the ground. The 787's airspeed would have only been around Mach 0.85-0.90.

    • @johnj8639
      @johnj8639 4 роки тому +21

      Correction, it’s momentum if it hit turbulent air could have allowed it to briefly be supersonic.

    • @cookieflavoredoreo4685
      @cookieflavoredoreo4685 4 роки тому +10

      The speed of sound is much slower than I thought if traditional airliners can reach about almost 90% of it in normal cruise

    • @zackaplowitz
      @zackaplowitz 4 роки тому +7

      @@elweewutroone Those are normal cruise speeds, but are not the Maximum Mach Number (MMO), which is why I included a range.

    • @trubinize385
      @trubinize385 4 роки тому +11

      The B787’s ✈️✈️✈️ 801MPH speed was only the ground speed, but as far as the plane was concerned it was flying at its normal air speed and chilling 😴😴😴 on the way to its destination. 😎😎😎

    • @seraphina985
      @seraphina985 4 роки тому +5

      @@cookieflavoredoreo4685 The speed of sound is a function of temperature Vs = 331 * (T/273.13)^0.5 gives an approximation of the speed of sound in air in meters per second (T is the temperature in Kelvin). So yes at the higher altitude where airliners cruise the speed of sound is lower than at sea level simply due to the air temperature being significantly lower.

  • @TheSheiban
    @TheSheiban 4 роки тому +693

    It's the shortest route and the jetstream helps to push the aircraft

    • @h4m1cx94
      @h4m1cx94 4 роки тому +55

      Shortest route between two highly populated areas of the world, having both populations rich enough to be able to, and knowledgeable enough to want to, fly to the other site.

    • @fockwulf1
      @fockwulf1 4 роки тому +29

      Decompressed an almost 10 minute video into one sentence. This is what UA-cam needs to be.
      Edit. Didn't even meed to watch more than 5 seconds of the video. thank you so much

    • @TheSheiban
      @TheSheiban 4 роки тому +18

      @@fockwulf1 Well in all fairness, I have to credit this channel for explaining the science behind it, and I appreciate that they cited their sources too 🙂. Not a fan of clickbait-y titles though but it's an interesting topic

    • @mrpositronia
      @mrpositronia 4 роки тому +1

      Your comment is best imagined chewing gum in class. Teacher: "Okay, Mr Smartypants: What is the jet stream and why does is exist?" :^D

    • @andyc9902
      @andyc9902 4 роки тому +1

      Duh

  • @Brannington
    @Brannington 4 роки тому +582

    a plane video? this isnt Wendover productions though!

  • @onebadlt123
    @onebadlt123 4 роки тому +264

    Corrective note: The oceanic air traffic centers DO NOT PLAN THE FLIGHTS.They plan the track system (NAT OTS). Airlines plan the routes and what track they will take. Airline flight dispatchers take into account what tracks are currently available and what weather is to be expected out there for that day. Then they plan around what they can using that days issued tracks. ATC controllers jobs are to keep aircraft separated. They do not plan routes. That is the job of the airlines Flight Dispatcher.

    • @keithfreitas2983
      @keithfreitas2983 4 роки тому +1

      Might add its a good paying job, at least 60k to 80k a year depending on the airline.

    • @HakingMC
      @HakingMC 3 роки тому +2

      @@keithfreitas2983 well it's a pretty important job.

    • @bernardmoorman8483
      @bernardmoorman8483 Рік тому

      Yes, that is true, however, also take into consideration that being a flight dispatcher is also the most fined employee by the FAA in the airline industry. Because he/she authorizes, regulates, and controls commercial airline flights according to government and company regulations to expedite and ensure the safety of flights. These fines are given to the aircraft dispatcher for the violation of government regulations.

    • @onebadlt123
      @onebadlt123 Рік тому +4

      @@bernardmoorman8483 You are 100% wrong. I've been a dispatcher for 15 years and never once has any of my coworkers, at any airline even been fined by the FAA. Lol. Even if mistakes were made. We file self disclosures for known violations and safety actions are performed to correct the issue. That or you go back into training. Nobody gets fined, ever.

    • @davidt8087
      @davidt8087 Рік тому

      Well what did you expect. It's cheddar. And it's youtube. They Google something for two minutes, get half the details wrong, truly understand NO PART OF IT, ans then talk about it like they're experts and know more than actual pilots or people in the industry, and then ask for subs. No wonder cheddar hasn't broken a million subs. I've seen their annoying videos since start of 2017. How do they even function? Who's venture capital firm or investor did they successfully scam over and over? There is no way they've ever made 1 single penny of profit. How thr fk do these kinds of companies keep popping up and continually succeed in scamming investors to pay for their employees and salaries and costs while they only lose money? Not only that companies like this always overspend like crazy too. Like seriously

  • @salehvxr
    @salehvxr 4 роки тому +516

    As a pilot, the information about the flying distance between airplanes are just the laws of flying, it doesn't mean that the airplanes are flying that close to each other. Otherwise you would see 4 airplanes at the same time In that route. Which you have to be super lucky to see

    • @garfieldsam
      @garfieldsam 4 роки тому +40

      Honestly this is the last straw. Why do I watch this shitty channel when they consistently report shoddy or even misleading information? Bye guys.

    • @frzstat
      @frzstat 4 роки тому +37

      @@garfieldsam yes they get it wrong all the time. But I learn a lot from the comments, when people correct the shoddy reporting. Seriously!

    • @rolandhandy9030
      @rolandhandy9030 4 роки тому +5

      I was thinking the same thing. You don’t see that many planes.

    • @KDeds21
      @KDeds21 3 роки тому +3

      Lol, that's what I thought when she said it. How often do you see multiple planes flying over eachother? I live pretty close to a major airport and I've never seen anything like that in my life. More global warming fear mongering.

    • @frankwu4839
      @frankwu4839 3 роки тому +4

      And seriously what is radar “communication”? This channel is composed of garbage videos full of misinformation.

  • @AwesomeDwarves
    @AwesomeDwarves 4 роки тому +1829

    Wendover crowd: "It's quite simple, really."

    • @JuanWayTrips
      @JuanWayTrips 4 роки тому +86

      I was expecting this to be a remake of Wendover's video but was pleasantly surprised when they focused more on the meteorological aspects of it and how it is and will change in the future.

    • @stevegruber4724
      @stevegruber4724 4 роки тому +39

      I literally thought it was a Wendover video until I heard the narrator. In my head I still hear the title in Sam's voice.

    • @JAYWASSERMAN
      @JAYWASSERMAN 4 роки тому +9

      The jet didn’t break the sound barrier because of the airspeed around it. If it had caused a sonic boom it could have damaged the plane as they are not meant to handle those forces

    • @dmhendricks
      @dmhendricks 4 роки тому +17

      It is typical leftist fear mongering. Green New Deal will bankrupt the U.S., cost a _massive_ number of jobs and cause hyperinflation. $93 trillion!

    • @StrickerRei-Chn
      @StrickerRei-Chn 4 роки тому +29

      @@dmhendricks okay boomer.

  • @k2477-o3n
    @k2477-o3n 4 роки тому +260

    A lot of this video, namely the “planes getting close to each other” parts are violently over exaggerated in their implied risk. It’s literally not dangerous at all.

    • @SixFootScream
      @SixFootScream 4 роки тому +6

      Was wondering the same.

    • @rylans.5365
      @rylans.5365 4 роки тому +14

      Right it's not dangerous, the 1000 ft minimum exists for a reason 🤦🏽🤦🏽🙄. I hate when videos know nothing about airplanes

    • @TrainerAQ
      @TrainerAQ 3 роки тому +7

      25 miles is a lot of space for a plane that is typically no bigger than just 200 feet

    • @sjpeckham1
      @sjpeckham1 3 роки тому +5

      @@SixFootScream exactly. Way too much inaccurate information. As stated by many, however, the comments are excellent!

    • @almahnak12
      @almahnak12 3 роки тому

      everybody gangsta till 2 planes collide

  • @unknownz1238
    @unknownz1238 4 роки тому +149

    When the UA-cam comment section has more accurate information from random people

    • @mumble3535
      @mumble3535 3 роки тому +7

      aviation youtube is pretty active- so you make one mistake and 40 enthusiasts crawl out of the woodwork to correct you

    • @TrainerAQ
      @TrainerAQ 3 роки тому +4

      Most of us are pilots just tired of seeing the same random nonsense the media feeds people.
      I mean really? Super Sonic 787's XD
      I mean just the lack in knowledge and expertise in explaining it is unreal. You wanna know about aviation, just go get real lessons from a real flight instructor, who knows how to explain aviation to someone who knows nothing.

  • @rustix3
    @rustix3 4 роки тому +34

    1:57 This was Virgin Atlantic’s Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner flying over Pennsylvania (on the route from Los Angeles (LAX) to London Heathrow). So this incident didn't happen over the Atlantic Ocean, as it could sound from the video.

    • @Dukenukem
      @Dukenukem 4 роки тому +14

      Activism doesn't care for fact accuracy, they take those that fits the narrative

    • @qv6486
      @qv6486 3 роки тому +2

      @@Dukenukem activists do not care about facts if it impedes the propositions they are advocating for.
      For instance, Activists that want to ban nuclear energy fail to grasp that safety improvements have increased since 1986(Chernobyl).
      Nuclear energy uses less real estate than other forms of power generation.

    • @douglasslotolowicz9454
      @douglasslotolowicz9454 3 роки тому +5

      An airliner flying from LAX to London Heathrow wouldn’t come anywhere close to Pennsylvania.

  • @pythomas29
    @pythomas29 2 роки тому +32

    It’s incredible that that many planes are in the sky at any given time, yet, it looks like they’re all alone.

    • @ajmaj5288
      @ajmaj5288 2 роки тому +7

      Because of the scale of the video - airplanes look much bigger compare to the distance between places.

    • @michaelnorth2055
      @michaelnorth2055 Рік тому +4

      @@ajmaj5288 🤣💀

  • @cookiedough5374
    @cookiedough5374 3 роки тому +41

    I flew once from Taiwan. The plane arrived 2.5 hours early. I got my bags first off the carousel land was home two hours before the original landing time. Unbelievable day. I think it clocked at 800 mph.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Рік тому +3

      hey if it's safe who cares if it's over crowded as long as they don't hit each other it's fine

    • @climber950
      @climber950 Рік тому +1

      @@raven4k998ground speed and air speed are separate things. On a bad day, the same flight may have been 2 hours longer.

  • @jimmcdiarmid7308
    @jimmcdiarmid7308 4 роки тому +30

    I have flown across the Atlantic 8 times in the last 8 years and never had ANY turbulence.
    The only turbulence on any of those flights was going over the mountains between Vegas and LA on A380 from LHR to LAX.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Рік тому

      as long as they obey tcas everyone's safe cause tcas will keep them from crashing should something go wrong

    • @davidt8087
      @davidt8087 Рік тому +1

      @@raven4k998did you learn about one single thing aka TCAS and now you think you know everything pilots know? TCAS is a final "fail safe" system. They don't fly blindly and then avoid TCAS. TCAS is for emergency situation. When they plan routes and flight altitude and time, all that in advance is meant to avoid ever hearing TCAS alert in the air in the first place.

    • @davidt8087
      @davidt8087 Рік тому +3

      Thays because mountain tops create turbulent air. As a pilot, I love getting throw around by turbulence. The more severe it is the better. Idk how you passengers keep freaking out thinking we will crash. What do you assume your pilot is just a sky Uber? Most peolle don't understand what it takes to be a pilot. They think it's as easy or slightly more difficult than getting a driver's license. Some ppl even think to become a pilot you get hired by an airline with zero flight experience. And they immediately train you in jets for a month and boom now youre a pilot. Lmao

  • @w.j.graham9100
    @w.j.graham9100 4 роки тому +73

    “That year, Japan launched around 9,000 silk hydrogen balloons...” WHAT year?

    • @sinoroman
      @sinoroman 4 роки тому +2

      July 1937

    • @slavicnonatho8062
      @slavicnonatho8062 4 роки тому +14

      @@sinoroman Nope, 1944. 1937 was 2 years before the war began

    • @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
      @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 3 роки тому +6

      @@sinoroman, that was when Japan began invading the rest of China, after having invaded Manchuria in 1931! 1944 is when the balloons were launched.

  • @rsb__
    @rsb__ 4 роки тому +43

    Me: think I’ll be productive
    Cheddar: ✈️

  • @mikev.6705
    @mikev.6705 4 роки тому +44

    So many exaggerations and inaccuracies in this video! In addition to what other people have said, another false statement is that turbulence might cause planes to run into each other. Clearly, not enough research was done for this video. Even extreme turbulence doesn't cause loss/gain of 1000 ft. Turbulence only poses a risk simply because of possible injury to passengers during extreme situations. Moreover, turbulence has been increasing due to increased amount of planes in the sky [prior to covid], not necessarily due only to climate change, but that is debatable.

    • @ginadoucette949
      @ginadoucette949 3 місяці тому

      Yes on a busy highway it's very windy from cars zooming by. I can only imagine how windy it would be if cars were replaced by large airplanes and increased speed 😮

    • @mikev.6705
      @mikev.6705 3 місяці тому

      @@ginadoucette949 If you are talking about wake turbulence, that is only caused by flying within several hundred feet and within about 2-3 minutes after the previous aircraft occupied that airspace. This is a non-issue for aircraft at cruise altitudes as there is never less than 1000 ft of vertical separation between aircraft and literally miles of lateral separation. And on the approach & takeoff phases where the effects of wake turbulence are more pronounced, further steps are taken to avoid any encounters with it.

    • @ginadoucette949
      @ginadoucette949 3 місяці тому

      @mikev.6705 lol no but that's ok 😊

  • @VideoNOLA
    @VideoNOLA 3 роки тому +12

    2:00 A plane moving at 801 MPH ground speed does *not* necessarily "break the sound barrier" if the tailwind behind it is also moving fast in the same direction.

  • @Fif0l
    @Fif0l 4 роки тому +28

    It takes you eight minutes to say: because it's the shortest route to connect a bunch of huge european airports with a bunch of huge east coast USA airports.
    Unless the topic is that this route is severely overcrowded, and not "why are they even flying there" in which case, put that in the title instead, why don't you?

  • @miokujou
    @miokujou 4 роки тому +44

    Just so everyone knows. Every commercial plane has a TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) built into them, it warns the pilots in advance if a collision will happen so they can avoid it. Also all commercial planes have radar built into them so the pilots can see the position of other planes near them. Most importantly it is part of the standard operating procedure to monitor the systems of an aircraft during flight and yes that includes TCAS. With a system like that in place the chance of a plane to plane collision during flight is very low.

    • @Fomites
      @Fomites 2 роки тому +2

      I didn't think planes can detect other aircraft with radar because as far as I know the only radar they have is weather radar which only detects precipitation.

    • @austriankangaroo
      @austriankangaroo 2 роки тому

      @@Fomites its not radar, they are communicating

    • @davidt8087
      @davidt8087 Рік тому +1

      @@Fomiteswell the system is new, idk if airliners have it. But a lot of planes especially smaller ones have ADSB IN, it let's us see the position and altitude of nearby planes. I've actually had my life saved once by this system. It's not exactly radar, its like a GPS system with ground stations that transfer the information. Look it up. It's called ADSB. And I don't think airliners have that system installed though I'm not sure

  • @chrisscott1547
    @chrisscott1547 4 роки тому +38

    This is what you get when producers do not have fact-checkers that are pilots.

    • @lauriekeats8538
      @lauriekeats8538 3 місяці тому

      They are more climate alarmists than anything

  • @johnbeaulieu2404
    @johnbeaulieu2404 4 роки тому +12

    Not mentioned of course is the fact that in the Northern Hemisphere the Jet Stream flows West to East. So flights from Europe to North America try to choose altitudes to avoid the Jet Stream as it will lengthen flight time significantly and of course increase fuel burn. The second reason why many flights use the Northern Transatlantic Corridor is because of ETOPS (Extended Twin-engine OPerations), Most long haul flights operate under ETOPS-180 meaning that the flight cannot be more than 180 minutes from a diversionary airport should the aircraft lose one of its engines. Remember that flying on one engine will be slower than on two engines, and the Jet Stream is likely not pushing you in the right direction, and the aircraft may not be able to maintain as high an altitude on one engine. So aircraft flying the North Atlantic Corridor will need to be closer to Gander, Newfoundland, and then Reykjavik, Iceland. For the more southern route to Portugal and Spain it's Bermuda and the Azores Islands for diversions.
    ETOPS-240 is possible, but only a select few Airlines can meet the rigorous maintenance and operational standards needed to receive that authority.

  • @northernsurferboy
    @northernsurferboy 3 роки тому +10

    A few things here, a planes TCAS system will prevent any collisions if it is flying too fast and close to another plane, airliners in a overspeed condition would reduce speed and drop into another attitude to avoid undo stress to the air frame, when traveling outside of radar or VHF range a plane would use gps tracking and communications, the North Atlantic track is preferred because of fuel savings and time but a flight would need permission and if there is too much traffic or other factors a plane would be scheduled on the track traveling closer to Iceland when crossing

  • @Negasuki
    @Negasuki 4 роки тому +35

    6:24 the guy TELLS you it's cause of climate change. 10 seconds later 6:35 there's a quiz - "What's causing this gigantic change? if you guessed climate change, bingo."

    • @Ascertivon
      @Ascertivon 3 роки тому +3

      I had the same thought; it was already mentioned.

    • @blogengeezer4507
      @blogengeezer4507 3 роки тому +2

      -Must have been some Real drastic 'Climate' change in the past. Chixulub [sp] for sure..
      End of Ice Ages. Beginning of Ice Ages (4-5), Little and Big. Now we have knowledge of Hiawatha Crater?....
      Lots of Climate' has changed, far more radically, and 4.5 billion years of Climate' changing... it's still here.. ;}

  • @flyingGrandpa
    @flyingGrandpa 3 роки тому +9

    The plane that sped up because of the wind, would not "catch up" with those flying in the same direction at the same altitude. They would all speed up. It's relative to each other.
    The separation is the same over the USA, which is even more convoluted, because planes fly in so many more directions. We don't just use ground radar either. In 2020, ADS-B became required, but was installed in a lot of airplanes 10 years prior. It uses a combination of GPS and altitude sensors to report and communicate with satellites. You are NOT invisible up there. Even without any ATC around, you can see the other airplanes yourself on the moving map, and get warnings from it.

  • @yellowpsychopath
    @yellowpsychopath 4 роки тому +17

    This video: "All planes..."
    Southern Atlantic Ocean: am i a joke to you?

    • @TrainerAQ
      @TrainerAQ 3 роки тому +3

      Yea I wanna see a video on some other route not New York to Europe for once. Don't planes fly from LA to Australia or something? How about NY to Hong Kong? Why does it always have to be Atlantic routes?

  • @kyledavis4202
    @kyledavis4202 4 роки тому +25

    Bruh Wendover did this video like 5 years ago

    • @TrainerAQ
      @TrainerAQ 3 роки тому +4

      Wendover does a way better job talking about aviation. I highly recommend him!

  • @BillFerree
    @BillFerree 3 роки тому +11

    I'm not certain of the connection between the jet stream and the Tacoma Narrows bridge. The bridge collapsed due to a design flaw that was exacerbated by high winds. I'm confused.

    • @johnstuartsmith
      @johnstuartsmith Рік тому

      You aren't as confused as whoever thought the Tacoma Narrows collapse had anything to do with the jet stream.

  • @TheGIGACapitalist
    @TheGIGACapitalist 4 роки тому +258

    "The globists are paying every airline and country to fly on a curved route for... Reasons"
    I love flat earthers.

    • @watema3381
      @watema3381 4 роки тому +55

      @BigfootSquad BWPP Bahamas Living Convincing? Uh... no.
      You're just easily brainwashed. Every "theory" put forth by the Flat Earthers has been debunked by science.

    • @shaunstark4263
      @shaunstark4263 4 роки тому +6

      @@watema3381 perhaps you have been brainwashed by your god of science. You live in a realm. 3 dimensional thinking equates to a "flat line"
      Consider God

    • @watema3381
      @watema3381 4 роки тому +18

      @BigfootSquad BWPP Bahamas Living The flag on the moon is merely for symbolism. Sure, theres no wind: But the fabric that makes the flag still follows the laws of gravity. Would you expect it to be fully unwrinkled when they erected it? Of course not. That's just silly.

    • @shaunstark4263
      @shaunstark4263 4 роки тому +2

      @WSB News a curved route wouldn't work either, fool. Neither makes sense, yet confirmation bias wont even allow you to see the other side to make an educated decision.

    • @watema3381
      @watema3381 4 роки тому +8

      @@shaunstark4263 My belief in science stems from tangible facts, concrete evidence that things are the way they are. Not once have I mentioned "God" or if I believe in it here, so don't question my religious beliefs

  • @johnp139
    @johnp139 4 роки тому +14

    787’s can’t break the sound barrier.

    • @jan-lukas
      @jan-lukas 3 роки тому +1

      They can't whilst flying normally. In a nosedive they can though

    • @jamielonsdale3018
      @jamielonsdale3018 3 роки тому +3

      @@jan-lukas Actually the plane would break up before going transonic, and the individual pieces experiencing exponentionally more drag would prevent even the majority of the debris from going supersonic.

  • @westoniii
    @westoniii 4 роки тому +25

    I had to dislike for some of the blatantly wrong info. Next time talk with a pilot before hand. Pilots are easy to find, because they'll always tell you they're a pilot.

    • @katiebaldwin5401
      @katiebaldwin5401 4 роки тому +1

      my family doesn’t, if anything they try to avoid talking about their jobs

  • @lfq119
    @lfq119 3 роки тому +12

    Very nice video, although I would like to comment on the fact that the B787 did not break the sound barrier. The mach number (what measures the ratio of an airplane speed with respect to the speed of sound, where M = 1 corresponds to a sonic speed) depends not on the ground speed but on true airspeed. When an airplane has a big tail wind (which was the case of this B787) ground speed increases but airspeed remains constant (if power inputs remain also the same). For that reason, even though the B787 was traveling at a ground speed of 758 mph, it’s true airspeed still remain well below the speed of sound.
    I hope this made sense.

  • @OneManCanStopTheMotorOfWorld
    @OneManCanStopTheMotorOfWorld 11 місяців тому +1

    The real problem is London Heathrow taking in entirely too many flights ✈️ they have completely screwed up that airport. It’s always been busy yes, but they need to get that extra runway installed asap

  • @benjamindrake6065
    @benjamindrake6065 3 роки тому +6

    It didn’t break the sound barrier. Speed of sound is local, their airspeed was still ~600 mph.
    If a passenger plane broke the sound barrier, they would have a lot more to worry about than separation on a travel lane

  • @patrickoneill1011
    @patrickoneill1011 4 роки тому +2

    That is Wild Earth! Always changing, Never static. And certainly never catering to mankind's comfort zone. We are not owners of this Beautiful Planet, only Inhabitants.

  • @mikes4163
    @mikes4163 4 роки тому +23

    "What do you think of the increased turbulence in the jet stream?"
    Is that a trick question?
    What do I think about having to breathe oxygenated air? Well, it's a nuisance, so I'll vote against it next time. 🙂
    Science doesn't give a fig about what any of us think. It's something we just have to live, or die, with. Twitter users will of course disagree ... 🤣

    • @jamielonsdale3018
      @jamielonsdale3018 3 роки тому +1

      I love your sarcastic wit. I had such a grin reading your comment.

  • @MrSuzuki1187
    @MrSuzuki1187 Рік тому +1

    We fly great circle routes because, due to the bulge of the earth, that route is shorter than a direct route say from Paris to New York. I crossed the North Atlantic as a B-767 captain exactly 100 times and 99 of those were flown on the great circle tracks. One time I departed Geneva, Switzerland and as I was approaching the west coast of France, I got re-routed almost directly to Newark, my destination. That direct routing took 1:15 hours longer than my flight plan route that would have taken me way north, then over Nova Scotia then Newark.

    • @patrickbell5107
      @patrickbell5107 Рік тому

      Thank you! was hoping someone would mention this

    • @12345fowler
      @12345fowler Рік тому

      Interesting, why is that you couldn't take the NATS ? Equipement failures ?

  • @seagullseagull7678
    @seagullseagull7678 4 роки тому +6

    When I heard Gander all I could think of was Come From Away

    • @nghicks42
      @nghicks42 4 роки тому

      Look into the town of Gander, especially what happened after the 9/11 attacks.

    • @seagullseagull7678
      @seagullseagull7678 4 роки тому

      @@nghicks42 that’s actually what the musical Come From Away is about! Obviously it is dramatized a bit but it was very interesting

    • @nghicks42
      @nghicks42 4 роки тому

      @@seagullseagull7678 Gotcha-never heard of the song. Been to Gander... once. Such a small town, yet such compassion.

    • @seagullseagull7678
      @seagullseagull7678 4 роки тому

      @@nghicks42 it’s a great musical, really brought attention to such a beautiful story.

  • @robertball8339
    @robertball8339 4 роки тому +8

    Always nice to see a new Wendover video

  • @deshaunjackson8188
    @deshaunjackson8188 4 роки тому +7

    Should have explained what vertical wind sheer actually is.

    • @jamielonsdale3018
      @jamielonsdale3018 3 роки тому +1

      Vertical wind shear is when winds shears vertically.
      That is the level of explanation you'd get from Cheddar. I'm here for the incredulous commenters, not the low-bar video. Cheddar is a terrible source of information.

  • @aaronferguson5335
    @aaronferguson5335 Рік тому +2

    Long flights across the Atlantic can be very boring if you struggle to sleep on an airplane. Nothing wrong with a little turbulence to spice things up.

  • @Daniel-vj9oq
    @Daniel-vj9oq 4 роки тому +6

    In Ireland, looking up and you always see trans-Atlantic planes.

    • @CuriousMuse
      @CuriousMuse 4 роки тому +3

      Ireland 😍

    • @garykaplan7728
      @garykaplan7728 3 роки тому

      I’ve never been to Ireland, but I have flown over it many times.

  • @mrunlucky4085
    @mrunlucky4085 2 роки тому +1

    ok so id thought id give my explanation on this video 1, the nats are not dangerous each plane is atleast 4 mins away from each plane and 1000ft above or below in RVSM airspace. 2, you do not report ur position every 4 mins you report passing the waypoint/ cord enroute with a message as follows "GTI8083 passed 40N30W at 1300Z mach .85 FL360" and this is done through satcom/dlink. 3, that virgin 787 was not in any danger as its airspeed did not change only its groundspeed changed (airspeed is the speed realitive with the air and ground speed is the speed over the ground) also id note that it did not "get close to other planes" because the other planes were flying in RVSM airspace with 1000FT vertical seperation between them and other planes at the same altitude would experience the same winds. I would also add that in RVSM airspace aircraft going west 180-359 degrees fly at a different set of altitudes then aircraft flying east 000-179 degrees. My tip, please have an understanding of how aviation works before u make a stupid video and make urself sound stupid because u dont actually want to take the time to do proper research you just want to spread "fear" into gulable minds who to know nothing about aviation.

  • @ScottRothsroth0616
    @ScottRothsroth0616 4 роки тому +6

    At timestamp 1:34 you forgot about Reykjavík Oceanic Control Area (“OCA”).

    • @zackaplowitz
      @zackaplowitz 4 роки тому +1

      Don’t forget Bodo!

    • @ScottRothsroth0616
      @ScottRothsroth0616 4 роки тому

      @@zackaplowitz I honestly never heard of Bodø Oceanic Control Area.
      (If I missed any others ↙️:
      North Atlantic Operations - Airspace - SKYbrary Aviation Safety
      www.skybrary.aero/index.php/North_Atlantic_Operations_-_Airspace; )

    • @julesw1403
      @julesw1403 4 роки тому +1

      @@ScottRothsroth0616 thank you for that link so I can read the info.

  • @tododjurovic9401
    @tododjurovic9401 Рік тому +1

    Crossed the atlantic at least 40 times and only ever had turbulence in the winter months (maybe 2times where it was severe) and right when we were about to cross from the ocean to a land mass and vice versa. Don’t worry folks, airplanes are designed to withstand turbulence waay stronger than we have on Earth.

  • @hungvu262
    @hungvu262 4 роки тому +10

    2:29 Is this a part earth?

  • @ajv0987
    @ajv0987 4 роки тому +2

    1. More planes does not necessarily equal more danger
    2. Lack of Radar coverage is becoming less relevant as more aircraft include on board radar and collision avoidance systems
    At least do a little more research. Aviation is a very well organized field. Understanding the nuances is very important.

  • @리주민
    @리주민 4 роки тому +15

    Passengers on the fast 800 mph flight: thank you for getting me to my destination much faster. Why can't all fly that speed?

  • @StrickerRei-Chn
    @StrickerRei-Chn 4 роки тому +3

    If I remember correctly , wendover production made a video about this too.
    Edit, except the meteorlogy part.

    • @MoonLiteNite
      @MoonLiteNite 4 роки тому +3

      and his didn't have 10 facts wrong...

  • @gerardmoran9560
    @gerardmoran9560 3 роки тому +1

    Severe turbulence is reported more than it was in the past. It is on the rise but much more met reports are gathered. BTW- the aircraft that encountered the jet streak didn't break the "sound barrier", an archaic term, its groundspeed increased while its speed through the moving air mass remained the same.

  • @Ba_A
    @Ba_A 4 роки тому +4

    So what about on their journey from Europe to America flying against the flow of jetstream.
    I guess the main reason the planes use these routes, both ways, is because it's the shortest distance.

  • @MrSuzuki1187
    @MrSuzuki1187 Рік тому

    We maintained separation from other airplanes flying the great circle tracks once out of radar contact by maintaining a precise assigned airspeed, lateral track, and altitude.

  • @MrInsomniac19
    @MrInsomniac19 4 роки тому +49

    Somebody's been watching Wendover videos again...

    • @frankczw
      @frankczw 4 роки тому +2

      the least they could animate the air highway correctly

    • @tarcal87
      @tarcal87 4 роки тому +2

      Like that guy has exclusivity rights on the topic or something

    • @tarcal87
      @tarcal87 4 роки тому +2

      @BigfootSquad BWPP Bahamas Living Gets tiring after a while. Under any flight video, fans somehow feel the need to mention that they know Wendover's channel as if it's a hidden-gem type channel. It's got 3m subs. Luckily we don't have to scroll through 3m random comments per video.
      (I googled conch salad, it looks yummy!)

    • @tarcal87
      @tarcal87 4 роки тому

      @BigfootSquad BWPP Bahamas Living I've googled Exuma Cay. What else can you tell about it?

    • @jasonremy1627
      @jasonremy1627 4 роки тому

      So it looks like I was the 17th person to make this joke...

  • @stevephone4957
    @stevephone4957 2 місяці тому

    Planes take this very over crowded route because there ar NO Satellites in Space to provide them with GPS. What a great video for de-bunking the myth of Satellites! Thankyou.

  • @notj5712
    @notj5712 4 роки тому +9

    It broke the sound barrier... Are you sure about that?
    I'm only two minutes in. I'm out.

    • @TrainerAQ
      @TrainerAQ 3 роки тому +2

      Comment section was fun though. I stopped too.

    • @HieronymousLex
      @HieronymousLex 3 роки тому

      @@TrainerAQ I see you, fellow aviation nerds

  • @CanadaMatt
    @CanadaMatt 4 роки тому +2

    Traffic jam? Airspace is a 3-dimensional environment.
    Imagine a shared route that's just 50 miles wide and ranged from 30 to 40K feet. You could give each trans-Atlantic aircraft its own 2-cubic-mile block of space to occupy and you'd still have room for almost 250,000 airliners moving at the same time from New York to London. The flight paths aren't where the crowds are, it's the AIRPORTS.

  • @HDTomo
    @HDTomo 4 роки тому +3

    If I was piloting a plane that was in a jet stream going 800 mph and hear a sonic boom I would go on the loud speaker and say "hey guys, you ever been on a concorde before?"

    • @elweewutroone
      @elweewutroone 4 роки тому

      You would not hear the sonic boom from inside. Anyway, airspeed is measured relative to the air and ground speed is airspeed + wind speed.

    • @HDTomo
      @HDTomo 4 роки тому

      @@elweewutroone eh, still would've known

  • @modul3
    @modul3 3 роки тому +1

    The “airport” were seeing at 08:15 is a train station. St Pancras international to be precise!

  • @everythingman987
    @everythingman987 3 роки тому +10

    If the 787 broke the sound barrier the elevator would lose effectiveness from compressibility and the aircraft would have permanent structural damage. It did not break the sound barrier, it's ground speed equivalent in KCAS or true airspeed would be supersonic, but the 787s systems would deploy the spoilers, airbrakes and bring the engines to idle if it came anywhere near it's Vne.
    Also you guys didn't take ETOPS into account.

  • @vu3mes
    @vu3mes Рік тому +1

    Thanks very much for the video, this is great information for my air band monitoring activities. I used to receive New York and Santa Maria ATCS clearly couple of years back. All the electronic noise pollution has made it difficult these days. I get Shannon volmet very feebly. 😢

  • @nidhishsharma9471
    @nidhishsharma9471 4 роки тому +15

    I knew I was playing Microsoft flight simulator wrong

    • @HeenaPatel253
      @HeenaPatel253 4 роки тому

      And that’s how u know the game is really good

    • @TrainerAQ
      @TrainerAQ 3 роки тому +1

      You wanna "break the sound barrier" kid, just set the winds from the west at 400mph, and fly an airliner at the fastest Mach speed it will go. Bingo. New York to London in 2 hours ;)

  • @VyvienneEaux
    @VyvienneEaux 3 роки тому +2

    I actually appreciate the shift from optimism about what could be prevented if governments took action to a more realistic resignation towards the hazards we are certainly going to face and face now because we know they won’t.

  • @mps2112
    @mps2112 4 роки тому +3

    You realise that bridge collapsed because of resonance, not wind speeds...

  • @Ascertivon
    @Ascertivon 3 роки тому

    3:45 Wow. I think that's absolutely beautiful.

  • @degenerals6127
    @degenerals6127 4 роки тому +4

    All planes do not take that crowded route
    Got that ?

  • @realhawaii5o
    @realhawaii5o 4 роки тому +1

    Me, a person that flies from Portugal to the US.
    I'm too good for that corridor.

    • @altrag
      @altrag 4 роки тому +1

      Can only make that flight once without going back to Portugal!
      Though I suppose you could just take a series of westward flights.. Portugal->NYC->LA->Hong Kong->Portugal or whatever similar combination.. then you could fully avoid the jet streams over both oceans!

  • @hirdeshbajwa8906
    @hirdeshbajwa8906 4 роки тому +2

    That is so interesting! I love to learn about aircraft

    • @uptin
      @uptin 4 роки тому

      Me too! 😄

  • @johnearle1
    @johnearle1 Рік тому

    I grew up in Newfoundland. All day long, I’d watch jumbo jets flying back from Europe in the morning, and going to Europe at night.

  • @jasonremy1627
    @jasonremy1627 4 роки тому +9

    Cheddar is poaching Wendover territory... Sam Denby is going to be upset...

  • @derrekvanee4567
    @derrekvanee4567 2 роки тому +1

    45 miles apart 1000m vertically a d 1000 miles vertically? Lawl that's a high and low flight

  • @caesar7734
    @caesar7734 4 роки тому +3

    I didn’t know that the 787 could travel over mach 1

    • @johnp139
      @johnp139 4 роки тому +3

      Because it can’t. As Abraham Lincoln once said “Don’t believe everything that you see on UA-cam.”

    • @caribbeansimmer7894
      @caribbeansimmer7894 3 роки тому

      @@johnp139 lol

  • @MrNateSPF
    @MrNateSPF 4 роки тому +1

    "An immeasurable amount of planning and precision."

    • @jamielonsdale3018
      @jamielonsdale3018 3 роки тому +1

      I literally paused the video as they said that and repeatedly the line to my significant other. We both said it makes no sense.
      For it to be precise, it must be very accurately measured... Right?

  • @Baxtexx
    @Baxtexx 4 роки тому +2

    Answer around 2:28

    • @sjwonka8412
      @sjwonka8412 4 роки тому

      Thx!

    • @Baxtexx
      @Baxtexx 4 роки тому

      @BigfootSquad BWPP Bahamas Living Yes, especially Cheddar are extremely slow in getting to the point. A 2 minute video is stretched to 10 minutes.

  • @Shahrdad
    @Shahrdad Рік тому

    Recently, when I was flying from Toronto to Dubai, the airspeed of the plane was 545 MPH and the ground speed was 750 MPH.

  • @Messerschmidt_Me-262
    @Messerschmidt_Me-262 4 роки тому +9

    Short answer: Fast winds
    Long Answer: Go check out Wendover Productions' video

  • @mohammadbazzi3072
    @mohammadbazzi3072 2 роки тому +1

    Flew from Canada to Italy then to Lebanon and It was so Smooth I feelt Like im on the ground. It was the best Flight.

  • @dziugaslapienis9038
    @dziugaslapienis9038 4 роки тому +4

    So basically - wind

  • @alexanderandersson4093
    @alexanderandersson4093 4 роки тому +1

    The 787 did not break the sound barrier

  • @queeny5613
    @queeny5613 4 роки тому +3

    Technically its not overcrowded kt very well.organised

    • @rylans.5365
      @rylans.5365 4 роки тому

      Yeah this video has lots of errors

  • @aromaticsnail
    @aromaticsnail 4 роки тому +1

    I guess we'll have to take a ship across the arctic the next type we need to fly to the other side of the pound (thanks for the SI units conversion)

  • @LuckyWitjaksono
    @LuckyWitjaksono 4 роки тому +11

    787 broke the sound barrier? Yeah right do your research again cheddar

    • @dumbcrapchannelyt3286
      @dumbcrapchannelyt3286 3 роки тому

      Maybe do yours

    • @LuckyWitjaksono
      @LuckyWitjaksono 3 роки тому

      @@dumbcrapchannelyt3286 br0 I'm majoring in Aeronautical engineering, i could say i know a thing or two

    • @dumbcrapchannelyt3286
      @dumbcrapchannelyt3286 3 роки тому

      @@LuckyWitjaksono Thats so cool that you are majoring in that man, the speed that the plane hit was well above the sonic barrier speed but do to the extreme winds no boom was made. Sorry that I may seem like I'm trying to attack your claim.

    • @LuckyWitjaksono
      @LuckyWitjaksono 3 роки тому

      @@dumbcrapchannelyt3286 ah yes there are ground velocity and relative velocity, the tail wind made the ground velocity higher than mach 1. But aerodynamic analysis uses the relative velocity of the air around the aircraft not the ground speed

  • @brettshelton6114
    @brettshelton6114 Рік тому

    No matter what the tail wind is, a commercial- jet DOESN'T break the sound barrier !!!

  • @xcesarbautistax
    @xcesarbautistax 3 роки тому +4

    So let me get this straight, communication with a plane is limited and ground based, but NASA can send a mission to Mars and communicate to Mars with no problems? 🤣

  • @cjmillsnun
    @cjmillsnun 2 роки тому +1

    At 5:24 at least show the correct controllers in NATS who determine the routes. Hint, it's not at an airport control tower that will literally only be dealing with landings, takeoffs and ground movements at that airport.

  • @abeeshake96
    @abeeshake96 4 роки тому +3

    Planes flying in the same direction such as in the jetstream from North America to Europe are always split by 2000ft. Not 1000. Planes that are flying East always have odd altitudes; 31,000ft, 33,000ft etc. Whilst those flying West fly at the even altitudes in between. In this section of the sky, you don't have planes flying westward at all as they'd be going against the jetstream.

  • @electrofan1796
    @electrofan1796 4 роки тому +1

    Why no use of gps? Is it just not reliable enough? Can someone explain this?

    • @MoonLiteNite
      @MoonLiteNite 4 роки тому +1

      GPS tells you, where you are.
      Doesn't tell anyone anything.
      And this video is so full of errors. The biggest fear based one is how close planes fly.... the numbers they are are the rare events, or distances when they are landing at a busy airport.

    • @electrofan1796
      @electrofan1796 4 роки тому

      @@MoonLiteNite ah okay that makes sense. Thanks.

    • @frzstat
      @frzstat 4 роки тому +1

      Electro Fan ADS-B is like GPS for aircraft that transmits data to the ground and other aircraft. Being implemented now

  • @michaelvonhaven105
    @michaelvonhaven105 3 роки тому +3

    These guys don't really know what they're talking about

  • @TroyQwert
    @TroyQwert Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the video. Now I know two consiquenses caused by jet stream. On you explained here. Another one is the weather in Toronto, for example. Did you know that Toronto is more southern most city than Florence? Yes, it is. But the weather in these two cities is quite different. Florence doesn't have Canadian jet stream.

  • @UmohowetYelayu
    @UmohowetYelayu 4 роки тому +5

    The pronunciation of “Wasaburo Oishi” made me cringe so hard. Otherwise, this was very informative.

    • @uptin
      @uptin 4 роки тому

      Absolutely!

    • @bruhz_089
      @bruhz_089 4 роки тому

      Not like you could do any better wish people could stop complaining about pronunciations

    • @UmohowetYelayu
      @UmohowetYelayu 4 роки тому

      @@bruhz_089 I actually could do better because I am familiar with the language. It’s not hard to learn how to respect another language and learn the proper pronunciations of words in that language. I wish people could stop assuming that ignorance is normal.

    • @bruhz_089
      @bruhz_089 4 роки тому

      @@UmohowetYelayu it doesn’t matter if you don’t pronounce something right especially if you don’t speak the language

    • @UmohowetYelayu
      @UmohowetYelayu 4 роки тому

      @@bruhz_089 It does matter. It’s basic professionalism. It takes nothing for the narrator or someone on the team to spend an hour or two learning how the name would be pronounced in Japanese by actually looking up mentions of the man’s name in previous press, interviews, or media. Or even contacting a Japanese linguist to confirm pronunciation or asking a Japanese person. That’s the professionalism one should employ when creating media of this level. This isn’t a random person pronouncing a name; this is a professionally made video for public consumption. That’s important. Again, I think the video was wonderful and informative and extremely well done, however, that was a glaring moment for me. If it wasn’t for you, that’s fine. But I said what I said, and I feel how I feel on the subject.

  • @nicoc.8261
    @nicoc.8261 2 роки тому

    I’m scared of flying but for some reason I watch all these aviation videos

  • @thelusogerman3021
    @thelusogerman3021 4 роки тому +7

    1:27 Portugal caralho🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹

  • @jcdmv8320
    @jcdmv8320 Рік тому

    Awesome video ✈️✈️❤❤

  • @TillisIsDone
    @TillisIsDone 4 роки тому +5

    Joe Biden when he saw this video. This you it hurt my head it it um you know with the plane because it has wings... alright I'm done with this, travel restrictions to all of Europe now. Hahaha.

  • @mattkramer8426
    @mattkramer8426 Рік тому

    Haven’t started this vid yet but I also think they take this route because of the Gulf Stream and also shipping lanes so if anything happens it’s easier to find. Plus it’s shorter due to the earths curvature

  • @NewCreationInChrist896
    @NewCreationInChrist896 4 роки тому +3

    Seek God’s will daily.
    Proverbs 8:17💕

  • @TysonIke
    @TysonIke 4 роки тому +1

    The awnser is simple. It’s because it’s the shortest route

  • @pixelanation
    @pixelanation 4 роки тому +1

    How many jets in a a jetstream make a stream of jets?

  • @charleshammer2928
    @charleshammer2928 Рік тому

    In Nov. of 1997 I flew EWR to FCO considerably under 7 hours on a Continental DC-10-30. The Captain told us we had a 200 + mph tail wind. I have made that trip many times before and since that was my shortest flight. By the way the return trip was over 8 hours 40 minutes.

  • @alphonsobutlakiv789
    @alphonsobutlakiv789 2 роки тому

    Are we to assume the planes flying threw the jet stream are not changing it just by flying threw it every minute of the day?

  • @Trainsallday
    @Trainsallday 4 роки тому +1

    4:33 not quite the video is great but the animation doesn't show the accurate location of the stream. It is closer, if not over the state of Maine.
    EDIT: The thumbnail of the video is a perfect representation of the stream.

    • @MoonLiteNite
      @MoonLiteNite 4 роки тому +1

      Doesn't the jet stream move? it can easily dip and push in different directions. As an example most winters the jet stream dips more south in south eastern USA which helps pull in that cool artic air.

  • @expo1403
    @expo1403 Рік тому +2

    As a meteorologist, that assists with the flight paths, I hate to inform you that climate change is the biggest myth going around right now

    • @Lacronh
      @Lacronh Рік тому

      Thanks for speaking up.