So minus the battery issue, which won’t be an issue moving forward, it’s looking like the new MX5 is currently, gonna be the new Top Dawg e-motos in this price range. Better acceleration ✅ Better suspension ✅ Better gearbox ✅ Better brakes ✅ Better seat ✅
I just have to add about the Talaria MX4s with SCUD Batterys. It might have been my comment you saw. It was not ordered from aliexpress or anything similar. It was bought really expensive, road-legal from one of the biggest physical motorcycle-stores in Sweden. And from what ive heard the SCUD batteries are common in MX4s especially in northern europe. They are probably not more dangerous than any other battery. Just some exceptionally rare catastrophic failure for some reason i would belive.
yeah this scud is getting all the hate lol im sure they built it right. It just went into Thermal runaway, I still think it was a bad samsung cell. samsung is good at that.
I'm curious to see a range test between the MX4, the MX5 and the pro SS. My 30 mile loops on the pro SS leave me with between 35 and 45% depending on the outdoor temp and my riding mood that day. That's with a pretty solid mix of ~15 miles asphalt, ~15 miles dirt and gravel, being a 185 pound rider . A 50 AH battery that was LifePO4, on a 160lbs bike would have been a pretty slick move. Idk why any of these companies don't offer LifePO4 batteries. Especially after those people got burned in the elevator with an e-bike battery. And now the guy who had to pull his new bike over because of a lithium fire between his legs. I get that it's the business model to slowly release the "next best thing" that's slightly better in order to drive profit margins. But the battery tech is there, safety-wise, with LifePO4 that they could at least offer it as an upgrade option. Also, your bro prolly ain't giving an honest weight. His answer sounded like a question; "210?" Lol
I think they don't use LifeP04 batteries because of the weight. They are significantly heavier than lithium ion. When I'm on my E-Ride and my friend is on his MX4, his battery drains noticeably faster than than mine. I would bet its a 5-10 mile difference if we did a full range test.
“HOBO” My father found it important enough to explain to me the difference between a hobo and a bum when I was about 10 years old. You see, when I was growing up, we went to Nashville, Tennessee a lot, where my dad would often be playing music and we would encounter bums and hobos and everything on the streets at night in downtown Nashville. There was always this one homeless fellow that my dad would tip 20 or $30 too, and in return, the guy would make me a balloon animal of my choice. On one of those occasions, as we were walking away from the Man, my dad told me to remember, that there’s a big difference between a hobo and a mom. He said that a bum will beg for money, but like the man who made me the balloon animal which I was holding, a hobo will at least work for their money, by providing something of value.
@@shootthechit well those seem like respectable enough folks I guess! I’ve often said, that a poor person is ignorant to remain in a part of the country which they dislike, when they could just as well be poor anywhere they choose! So they might as well put forth the effort to move to a more preferable part of the country, where they can be poor somewhere nice!
Bikes keep getting better and better. I still haven't pulled the trigger on one. Very curious on the eride pro ss next release I am hesitant on buying due to the range on these. I want minimum 50 miles
Does the MX5 coast downhill with no "regenerative" brake resistance? I'm curious about whether the thumb control, when fully open, has zero "regenerative" braking. It doesn't seem like there's any way to fully disable it on the e-ride. The switch positions seem to do nothing. I like having it on through turns and downhills off-road, but it would be nice to have it off entirely during long downhill stretches on paved road. Feels weird having to throttle going downhill.
You can also adjust the settings for the always on regenerative braking between levels 1-4. I don't think there is an "off" setting, but 1 to me feels like its off. I leave it on 1 all the time, as I don't like the always on setting. I think the E-Ride just has a lot of resistance with the chain and all that, so there is always a drag on it.
@@shootthechit I think there's something else going on. I can coast downhill on a scary 280-300lbs CARBON EMISSION bike and not feel that weird resistance. We tested coasting downhill on all three modes on the e-ride and didn't measure any difference in speed. So that makes me wonder if that resistance is there no matter what. Is the throttle always fighting it, even uphill? These are the questions that chit heads have. Is "regenerative" braking truly off on the MX5 as well? The world may never know.
@@Ken-r4d I wonder if your regen switch is broken on the E-ride. I can definitely tell a difference on mine between the 3. Maybe see if can trace the wire and verify its plugged in. I know it wont engage if you're above 90%
@@shootthechit its crazy how fast talaria is making changes we want to see. I bought the mx3 and a year later the mx4 comes put then another year and we have the mx5. Surrons been basically the same since they came out they fell off
Great video. It's okay, your dumpster juice pallet just needs some work. Some have hints of raccoon, while some are full-bodied with a maggot, earthy finish.
@@shootthechit Thanks, trying to gauge how spicy this might make the cops in southwestern Washington. And how much it might kill me to take it up and down my stairs, too. I may go for a smaller bike (like the xxx) for a stealth/quality of life thing.
I liked - so now I gotta comment: Im 6'4" 230lbs n yeah that mx looks good to me. that regen thing just for the braking is enough for me to know. the amount it regens (?) not my priority to know that - just for some holdback on a downhill is enough for me. my ebikes are free willie down the hills - :O range (?) well might be better for me as I ride back roads and really 20 mph is fine with me. if only it didnt cost more than a dirt bike -
Totally random, but where did you get that screen grab of the 'wasted' logo (@2:52). That's from a movie I directed in the late 80s. Or at least it looks exactly like it.
Out of.all.these style bikes. Just tell me which 1 to buy under 5k. I aint smart enough to figure it out. Just want to have fun b4 death. What do you all think. I'm more concerned about reliability. And it working every time then trying to squeeze everything out of 1 of these. Thanks guys
@@dasshape00 thats how they get people. Rawr mantis x is a 3000 dollar bike and it's 72v so everyone who doesn't know anything thinks it's great. But it's only 6.5kw so it's not faster than the 60v bikes it's juts sounds good on paper. Also the rawr can't be upgraded theirs no aftermarket for it. Talaria sting is constantly improving I own the mx3 a year later they made the mx4 and now they have the mx5 same bike but better brakes battery motor more power better suspension. It's the cream of the crop right now. And everything is available aftermarket for it if you ever want to make some changes or upgrades.
@@maniacalmonster2293 if the motor or controller overheated it would cut power it wouldnt catch fire. It's not from weight it's from bad battery's. Theve announced this already
Want to Play a Game ?. . . How about Chess? No, How About Global Thermal _______ ___ OK. (all garbage decomposes. decomposition produces methane gas) side note: UPS could have dropped that guys battery pack, compromising the integrity etc
How many bike fires , I only heard of one ?? Ridstar Q 20 Pro had the same issue with there batteries . The fires they talked about with them looked staged!!
@@realkidcarter tis not a myth look it up. Same goes with any device. You say these stock batteries stop charging at 80% and don't let it die below 20%? I don't think so
@@Jace_1445 keeping a battery's charge between 20% and 80% can help extend its life. Charging a battery to its maximum capacity can stress the battery cells and decrease its overall health. Batteries are most stressed when fully drained, so it's best to keep your battery above 20%. Some devices, like iPhones, have a feature that stops charging at 80% to extend the battery's lifespan. Mine does.
Watch a million videos trying to decide what to get. Not a single person talks about charge times ....its almost like every YT channel is just making advertisements not reviews
@Sammy31Dee I mentioned charge times. 3 hours for the MX5 , 4 for the Eride. 3 hours charge time is super nice. I like the eride but at this point the MX5 is a better bike and cheaper
😂this guy is the best e bike content creator out there. No Bs and great humor. Masterclass on editing
Best of all he has an actual personality
I am fond of 2 things: ebikes and stand up comedy. Thanks for combining the two, loving your humor, sir!
So minus the battery issue, which won’t be an issue moving forward, it’s looking like the new MX5 is currently, gonna be the new Top Dawg e-motos in this price range.
Better acceleration ✅
Better suspension ✅
Better gearbox ✅
Better brakes ✅
Better seat ✅
Yea, its a pretty solid bike all around.. minus the thermonuclear warhead lol
Broski is gettin content out !💪💪
Just found your channel thanks to the MX5 content. Great stuff, a good sense of humor, love the content!
It’s crazy that mx4 is still working. Crazy those batteries still work after 40 years.
I got a 1966 Talaria back home, and it’s still running great on the original battery.
@@ridermog 1966 was a nice year, I hope to restore one some day
Your monolog about the batteries before install sold me! Im subbed! Really been digging your content!
I just have to add about the Talaria MX4s with SCUD Batterys. It might have been my comment you saw. It was not ordered from aliexpress or anything similar. It was bought really expensive, road-legal from one of the biggest physical motorcycle-stores in Sweden. And from what ive heard the SCUD batteries are common in MX4s especially in northern europe. They are probably not more dangerous than any other battery. Just some exceptionally rare catastrophic failure for some reason i would belive.
yeah this scud is getting all the hate lol im sure they built it right. It just went into Thermal runaway, I still think it was a bad samsung cell. samsung is good at that.
Where do I order one of those exact Road Legal Swede Nuke versions???
Luna Cycles...A+
I'm curious to see a range test between the MX4, the MX5 and the pro SS. My 30 mile loops on the pro SS leave me with between 35 and 45% depending on the outdoor temp and my riding mood that day. That's with a pretty solid mix of ~15 miles asphalt, ~15 miles dirt and gravel, being a 185 pound rider . A 50 AH battery that was LifePO4, on a 160lbs bike would have been a pretty slick move.
Idk why any of these companies don't offer LifePO4 batteries. Especially after those people got burned in the elevator with an e-bike battery. And now the guy who had to pull his new bike over because of a lithium fire between his legs. I get that it's the business model to slowly release the "next best thing" that's slightly better in order to drive profit margins. But the battery tech is there, safety-wise, with LifePO4 that they could at least offer it as an upgrade option.
Also, your bro prolly ain't giving an honest weight. His answer sounded like a question; "210?" Lol
I think they don't use LifeP04 batteries because of the weight. They are significantly heavier than lithium ion. When I'm on my E-Ride and my friend is on his MX4, his battery drains noticeably faster than than mine. I would bet its a 5-10 mile difference if we did a full range test.
Thanks for the test. Will be curious to see if the new battery you get will have better range! Stay safe!!!!
“HOBO”
My father found it important enough to explain to me the difference between a hobo and a bum when I was about 10 years old. You see, when I was growing up, we went to Nashville, Tennessee a lot, where my dad would often be playing music and we would encounter bums and hobos and everything on the streets at night in downtown Nashville. There was always this one homeless fellow that my dad would tip 20 or $30 too, and in return, the guy would make me a balloon animal of my choice. On one of those occasions, as we were walking away from the Man, my dad told me to remember, that there’s a big difference between a hobo and a mom. He said that a bum will beg for money, but like the man who made me the balloon animal which I was holding, a hobo will at least work for their money, by providing something of value.
Interesting.. I associate Hobos more with train hoppers and traveling types too.
@@shootthechit well those seem like respectable enough folks I guess! I’ve often said, that a poor person is ignorant to remain in a part of the country which they dislike, when they could just as well be poor anywhere they choose! So they might as well put forth the effort to move to a more preferable part of the country, where they can be poor somewhere nice!
Thermal runaway and toxic off-gassing is the new Nuclear Fallout.
That battery shaming at the beginning was hilarious 😂
Wow, I had all my chips on the E-Ride, good job talaria. Great hilarious video.
E-Ride is no slouch, but they really pulled out the stops with the MX5. Nice to see them doing real upgrades and not just making the bikes faster
38 miles...Great job! 🦵💪🚴♂️🔥⚡️🔥
Broo I’m dead 😂😂 🙌🏻 him with the scud batter pack
Bikes keep getting better and better. I still haven't pulled the trigger on one. Very curious on the eride pro ss next release
I am hesitant on buying due to the range on these. I want minimum 50 miles
Those freedom hops had me feelin some type of way.
great range for the price, you will get atleast 30 miles no matter how you ride it which is amazing
That's only 15miles out... not really good. They need to be 50miles
Does the MX5 coast downhill with no "regenerative" brake resistance? I'm curious about whether the thumb control, when fully open, has zero "regenerative" braking. It doesn't seem like there's any way to fully disable it on the e-ride. The switch positions seem to do nothing. I like having it on through turns and downhills off-road, but it would be nice to have it off entirely during long downhill stretches on paved road. Feels weird having to throttle going downhill.
You can also adjust the settings for the always on regenerative braking between levels 1-4. I don't think there is an "off" setting, but 1 to me feels like its off. I leave it on 1 all the time, as I don't like the always on setting.
I think the E-Ride just has a lot of resistance with the chain and all that, so there is always a drag on it.
@@shootthechit I think there's something else going on. I can coast downhill on a scary 280-300lbs CARBON EMISSION bike and not feel that weird resistance. We tested coasting downhill on all three modes on the e-ride and didn't measure any difference in speed. So that makes me wonder if that resistance is there no matter what. Is the throttle always fighting it, even uphill?
These are the questions that chit heads have. Is "regenerative" braking truly off on the MX5 as well? The world may never know.
@@Ken-r4d I wonder if your regen switch is broken on the E-ride. I can definitely tell a difference on mine between the 3. Maybe see if can trace the wire and verify its plugged in. I know it wont engage if you're above 90%
Wonder how much an extra battery costs? None SCUD addition please... I might buy one of those E Rides to go in my ever expanding Ebike Stable. : )
I’ve heard the corner of pepper tree and Sycamore has been really quiet lately. Do you think I should go for a ride over there?
haha yea, maybe if you get body armor
Thanks again for the entertainment! Gonna ise the clerical errror excuse moving forward!
Just wanted my first post!
i need help deciding between the mx5 and the e ride pro ss. theres postives to both but i just cant decide what one?
I think the MX5 has it beat at the moment, more power, better brakes, better suspension, and its cheaper.
hopefully you got the mx5 because they are out of stock at the moment
@@wongesse1612 getting the altis sigma now 🤣
@@narev8858 Yea, I ordered a Sigma too!!
That was a solid 6" of air, nice jumping! 🤣
at least 6ft lol
Love my vintage MX4
Same, had mine since I was 2 😆... Kitted it up to fkkk last week then saw the MX fuckkkkking 5 🙃
🤣😂
I'm a real og I got the mx3. One of the first one own a talaria in the USA
@@MotoAlias Dang, was that like the 60s or 70s?
@@shootthechit its crazy how fast talaria is making changes we want to see. I bought the mx3 and a year later the mx4 comes put then another year and we have the mx5. Surrons been basically the same since they came out they fell off
Scud says it All 😊
I’m about to buy 1… Which …. Eride or mx5?? Please help 🤘🏼🙏🏼
MX to the 5!!!
@@Ecurrie84 just worried that the mx5 isn’t as rowdy… am I wrong?
Wow I’m impressed you have the balls to drive that fire hazard 😭
Great video. It's okay, your dumpster juice pallet just needs some work. Some have hints of raccoon, while some are full-bodied with a maggot, earthy finish.
@@maximumchargeEV 🤣 funny, but also made me gag a little bit
upgrading my xxx to one of these soon
Is there noticable improvements to the "upgraded" swing arm?
@@Mr_E402 Will have to compare next time I'm around the MX4
I was worried 😂about your junk in a straight way 🎉
Ha ha ha...you just cleaned up Antioch...😂😅
Thanks to watching your videos I make a screeching hawk sound when I jump curbs. This is the kind of mentally challenged viewers you have.
Go which one’s the best bike for off road
@@PAKESYBOY The MX5 is the better bike between the 2 , much better suspension and brakes
@@shootthechit thanks hope for best off road bike owt box seem to be mx5
Love the 8 bit alice in chains
Its funny how the Doom guys admit to copying popular songs at the time and making them into MIDI tunes.
How does the size compare to the motorgoat?
Its bigger than the Motor Goat, but not by a ton.
@@shootthechit Thanks, trying to gauge how spicy this might make the cops in southwestern Washington. And how much it might kill me to take it up and down my stairs, too. I may go for a smaller bike (like the xxx) for a stealth/quality of life thing.
I liked - so now I gotta comment:
Im 6'4" 230lbs n yeah that mx looks good to me.
that regen thing just for the braking is enough for me to know.
the amount it regens (?) not my priority to know that - just for some holdback on a downhill is enough for me. my ebikes are free willie down the hills - :O
range (?) well might be better for me as I ride back roads and really 20 mph is fine with me.
if only it didnt cost more than a dirt bike -
I can’t wait for the mx6 those graphics are gonna be great 😂
8k 60fps at least
Totally random, but where did you get that screen grab of the 'wasted' logo (@2:52). That's from a movie I directed in the late 80s. Or at least it looks exactly like it.
Its from Grand Theft Auto video games, that shows on the screen every time you get killed
did ya hit turbo button on e ride during speed test against mx5?
Good comment, no I did not
I don't feel like the turbo button actually does anything on my revision.
Never cross the streams.
what is the weight of just the battery? mx5
I actually don't have a scale, but I should totally get one now that you mention it. I would guess around 30lbs or so
MX4 is 66KG and MX5 is 76KG... 🤔👍️
@@Ecurrie84read again what I asked
That I know:)
it isnt the mx5 that caught on fire, the calibers are different in the video, thats the biggest giveaway to it
It has the same calipers I have on mine. I think the confusion came because Surronster had gold calipers on his, but he had a prototype bike
@@shootthechit oh okay, i didnt know that, thanks for letting me know
😂 Yea them Vietnam nuclear battery ! Prolly a ebike attack From CTown 😂
This guy shouldve been a standup 😢😂
how long does it take to charge back to full once dead?
3 hours, which is super fast. One of the coolest features imo
Aliexpress....Great point!
Out of.all.these style bikes. Just tell me which 1 to buy under 5k. I aint smart enough to figure it out. Just want to have fun b4 death. What do you all think. I'm more concerned about reliability. And it working every time then trying to squeeze everything out of 1 of these. Thanks guys
Mx5 is newest an best out right now
@MotoAlias thx for a answer. I'm old and don't know shite. I almost bought a xxx but thought to wait on more info
@@dasshape00 xxx is one of the cheaper options it's a good bike but the mx frame and gearbox is far superior.
@MotoAlias I didn't know anything so I was going to go for cheap. Lol
@@dasshape00 thats how they get people. Rawr mantis x is a 3000 dollar bike and it's 72v so everyone who doesn't know anything thinks it's great. But it's only 6.5kw so it's not faster than the 60v bikes it's juts sounds good on paper. Also the rawr can't be upgraded theirs no aftermarket for it. Talaria sting is constantly improving I own the mx3 a year later they made the mx4 and now they have the mx5 same bike but better brakes battery motor more power better suspension. It's the cream of the crop right now. And everything is available aftermarket for it if you ever want to make some changes or upgrades.
awesome
did u guys know this is military grade weaponry? why should we let military tools be owned by civilians? makes you think.
Damn dude how'd you get this one so quick 👀👀 California gets everything. Lol
I ordered it last Saturday when it was announced and got it on Wednesday or Thursday. Luna cycle is in socal so shipping was pretty fast
@@shootthechit sounds like it! That's great! Got busy at work got a whole 2 mins in, will watch it all later. Good content bro!
i lol'd at the hoobastank joke
I don't think many people got the reference lol, Glad someone did
When he sees the police start talking about church😂
And the MX-5 with a 220 lb weight capacity and we wonder why it catches on fire 😂
Should really clean up those wires tho.
Has nothing to do with the weight amd everything to do with some of the battery's coming from scud not greenway
@@MotoAlias possibly some slightest to it. I mean, there's a weight limit exceeded causing the bike to overwork therefore overheat
@@maniacalmonster2293 if the motor or controller overheated it would cut power it wouldnt catch fire. It's not from weight it's from bad battery's. Theve announced this already
My man !
Want to Play a Game ?. . . How about Chess?
No, How About Global Thermal _______ ___
OK.
(all garbage decomposes. decomposition produces methane gas)
side note: UPS could have dropped that guys battery pack, compromising the integrity etc
I know for sure, I don't blame Scud really, it could have been any number of things. Still slightly unnerving
1995 😂 and agree with the terrible fries
mmmm boiled potatoes
How many bike fires , I only heard of one ?? Ridstar Q 20 Pro had the same issue with there batteries . The fires they talked about with them looked staged!!
Only 1 I've heard of. So true, in todays day and age you never really know what to believe
@@shootthechit Yes . I have the Q20 Pro and now own 4 Batteries because of the battery scare!!
U still should be home doing chores....and taking care of puppies and kitty....
I’m at home doing chores 😭
6:07 you almost died!
Yea, that guy pulled in right in front of me, had to go around him
6:06 RIP
Reckon old mate might be a bit heavier than 210 🤥
oohhhh I'm telling him you said that
Try 45-50
Ha ha ha 😂😅
What are you hoobastank? Lol
Don't let your battery get down past 20% and don't charge it over 80% - 90%
Why?
this a myth, stock battery packs already do that on their own
@@realkidcarter tis not a myth look it up. Same goes with any device. You say these stock batteries stop charging at 80% and don't let it die below 20%? I don't think so
@@Jace_1445 keeping a battery's charge between 20% and 80% can help extend its life.
Charging a battery to its maximum capacity can stress the battery cells and decrease its overall health.
Batteries are most stressed when fully drained, so it's best to keep your battery above 20%. Some devices, like iPhones, have a feature that stops charging at 80% to extend the battery's lifespan. Mine does.
@@maniacalmonster2293 the bms does that automattically. it displays 0 when it really has 20% capacity still
Hoobastank 😂
Flys cause the same smell
Yep, anywhere fly doo their thing has the smell, prolly amino acids, its all about the acids!
@@benayeb9952 Is that really why? That makes it even more gross to think about
Hobo Alley 😂😢😢😅
so e ride better lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 intro
The eRide has a better throttle and better power delivery. Talaria's are Junk.
I don't know, I like the throttle on the MX5. The E-Ride has a good throttle too but also feels like there is a bit of a dead spot.
Did a talaria run over your dog?
@@rtdriver0842
E-bike Crack Down.
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Watch a million videos trying to decide what to get. Not a single person talks about charge times ....its almost like every YT channel is just making advertisements not reviews
@Sammy31Dee I mentioned charge times. 3 hours for the MX5 , 4 for the Eride. 3 hours charge time is super nice. I like the eride but at this point the MX5 is a better bike and cheaper