Though the Ariya debuted first, it hit the market second and in that time the Ioniq 5 has established itself at the top of the segment. Do you think the Nissan has enough style and substance to knock it down a peg? Let us know in the comments below.
Ariya is quality inside and outside. It’s more like an Infiniti, to be honest. Honestly, not sure why its compared to Ioniq 5. Ioniq 5 is consumer choice for sure, mostly for its affordability. But Ariya got the lux.
I tested an SEL RWD Ioniq today and it was extremely impressive. If you can get one in the mid $40's (which definitely seems possible with certain incentives) then I think it is a very compelling vehicle. No experience with the Ariya yet.
I don't feel very good about being compared to the likes of Ariya as an owner of Ionic 5, but If Ionic 5 sets a textbook example as an electric car, then it would be accurate to say how faithfully Nissan has imitated Hyundai.
There is no doubt that KIA is the present EV king particularly when you consider price. Tesla should take notice since their biggest threat has always been major car makers making EV's that are better than theirs. The Ionic is exactly that. The Japanese efforts on EV's have been late, weak and a generation behind, hopefully Honda's wait till its competitive strategy bears a much better vehicle. The Aria is not half bad, the Toyota is an embarrassment. Mercedes BMW and Audi have already ensured that Tesla has no chance of encroaching on their turf.
styling is so subjective, its one area that reviews should probably shy away from. I personally prefer the styling of the Ariya to the Ioniq, again that is purely subjective though
I debated the two and bought the Ariya. More comfortable interior, wireless apple car play, a higher ride, better safety features, better interior materials.
Hi there, I too am shopping for a new EV and am comparing these 2 exact cars. I love the look of Ariya- so much sexier, but the interior looks cheaply done to me, comparing to Ionic 5. I absolutely love those 2 screens in Hyundai. Seats feel more comfortable too. What i DO love about Ariya is higher ground clearance (I live in Alaska and so high snow could be an issue) and like a said before- the overall exterior design. But I love that Hyundai is offering $7500 tax credit, unlike Nissan. So not sure which one I'll end up getting. Also dealership people at Nissan up here don't seem to be working as hard as Hyundai people when it comes to selling you the car, they seem to be less knowledgable too. It's not like I'm buying a $30 lapdance. It's 50K!!! Sell it to me!🤦♀️🤷♀️
Helpful! I'm lusting for an Ioniq 5 Limited AWD… but it's hard to find one in my preferred configuration. I wonder when the 2024 model will appear…? I also would like to know if Hyundai will, indeed, join the NACS transition…?
The Aryia estep doesn't bring you to complete stop so you are forced to use brakes from time to time that keeps them from seizing up due to lack of use. Something that happened with leaf's and I would expect in the ionic 5 as well if you did full single pedal driving for long periods of time.
Having sold my Model Y for a 2023 Ariya Evolve+ awd it’s a much better vehicle than the Tesla. Range is accurate for the highway where my Tesla was way overrated. The Hyundai feels heavy, interior and electronics are not up to the Nissan. Honestly Nissan only failed by not making this model an Infinity. If you are in the market get an Ariya plus (big battery) and awd. The used car market makes these cars a steal. I was swayed by all this negative biased reporting till I looked for myself.
I have the Ioniq and am checking out the Ariya. Thanks for this video! Fun Fact: my 12 pound dog LOVES resting in the center console of the Ioniq. Super spacious for napping.
OK...Ioniq5 has Ariya beat by far on charging speed, range is similar however I5 is more efficient as it has 10kwh smaller battery. Hope that helps? We own a 22 AWD I5 Ultimate trim...fantastic car! Mike
The Ariya has a rear wiper, and I think its a little higher off the ground. Those are the only advantages. I went to test drive an Ariya and the 12 volt battery was dead. By the time they had it fixed, two weeks later, I wasn’t sure I really wanted to bother test driving it. I was able to sit in one and I didn’t much care for the haptic buttons and the Although I thought I’d like the lantern effect on the doors, it looked cheap to me. In the end though, the only real problem with the Ariya, is the price.
Would have been nice to touch on the e4orce system in the Nissan (particularly the anti pitch feature), since that’s really the only thing the Nissan has going for it.
“SUV” is like not even a real acronym anymore , these are big harrchabacks I’m so over being told things are what they aren’t with enough marketing… strange times. Great cars tho
How come no reviewers see the Aryia center console as a story for making the front cabin seating and leg room space more open. I find it feels more like the open space experience you used on only get from a mini-van and in this case without having to drive a mini-van to get it.
@@Its_me_CC...well, not sure if the Aryia is a Rogue, Murano, or some other French SUV. it might be ground up construction, but knowing Nissan, they used at least 60% of another vehicle in production to build the Aryia from; it's what they do (see new Frontier, Z)
$60k is a lot of money. We've just been conditioned to accept it. I had a hard time spending $40k on a 3-row crossover. Can afford and want to afford are two different things.
your review does not cover AWD specific features. Wish you could include: * vehicles on rollers to test wheels loosing grip and AWD system's response. * motors dis-engage under which conditions.
I love the decent central storage space in the Ioniq. I absolutely love a car where you can place a grocery bag or small bin for trash. I abhor cars with closed off central front row space. I understand not wanting the liability for items jumping over a fence from the middle and into the driver's side floor. But with sufficient fencing, that's not an issue. Do some testing on the track to verify that items don't jump out, and an OEM has done their safety diligence--their arse should be legally covered. I don't understand who these humans are who never need even the smallest refuse container/bag in their cars.
It's funny he said he tried to match that 0-60 time Nissan post but he never stated whether the test was above sea level or below sea level and clearly on weather conditions ... What tires did you use and was the battery fully charged in sport mode .. What he is saying is quite bias towards Nissan and that plainly says don't trust these car reviews unless you can see them really doing those test .
@@JohnLee-db9zt maybe he is on to something. As the air is less dense at altitude, there's less wind resistance! I mean baseballs do travel farther at Coors Field...
Biggest Cons of the 2022 to 2024 IONIQ 5: # 1 Dangerous Safety Hazard with obstructed oversized pillas due to rear AC vents in the chest height area of the rear doors, the AC wiring and construction going into these pillars means they're very thick and it reduces your manual blind spot (looking over your shoulder) visibility by 50%. #2 Erratic and unreliable long term Level 2 charging : Even if your one of the lucky owners who gets the 2022 through 2024 models that only require the software update to fix the faulty Level 2 charging recall-defect, it's uncertain, whether your going to be able to get anywhere close to the orginol manufactuer's specs of charging from 10 to 80% in 6.3 hours, many people are stuck with charging speeds at half that speed and that's the best they'll ever get: The best solution to this of course would be an entire change and re-install of the entire costly ICCU module that has a completely different enhanced design starting with the 2025 models, but no way is Hyundai going to go that extra mile for it's past customers, unless it's absolutely proven necessary and there are a lot of hurdles to overcome if you try to argue, that you deserve this superior fix. (estimates I've read is that the replacement or repair of the ICCU is apx 4,000) Biggest Suprise of the 2022 to 2025 IONIQ 5: It's actually noticably quieter in the cabin than even the resdesigned 2024 VW ID models with it's greater horsepower,
The Hyundai does not have Android auto? But the Tucson does. I think that's strange. I've been looking forward to getting rid of my aux cord for so long, I don't think I want to keep using a wire. Such obsolete technology.
Why are you comparing a 5-door hatch with an SUV? Chalk and cheese surely. Both are adventurously styled, both really aimed at families, just in different ways.... I'll have either please!
Oh, Edmunds. Showing your anti-Nissan bias, again. So many other automotive authorities are praising the Ariya - especially its interior (with it winning Auto Ward's Best Interior prize) - and here you are bashing Nissan, once again. They can never do anything right by y'all. I'd much prefer the Ariya. Have seen and sat in both the Ioniq5 and the Ariya and the Ariya feels like the higher-quality, more luxurious offering. (And, it was in an awesome dark green color, which showed splashes of purple, blue and black, too - with beautiful copper-colored detailing in the interior.) The seats were by far more comfortable in the Ariya, as well. Didn't get to drive 'em - but, with what I saw and felt, it was no contest. Nevertheless, I like this guy's reviewing style.
The Ariya is objectively not as good as the i5, most EVs out currently aside from the Nissan leaf and BZ4 have something going for them, the Ariya would have been good in 2020 but it is not worth the money in any objective way in 2023.
@@spcneary To say it's "not worth the money in ANY objective way" sounds very SUBjective to me, actually, in addition to exaggerative. Objectively, as the reviewer stated himself, it is is a very good car. If someone subjectively hates the weird styling of the Hyundai, for instance, and the NIssan is not significanly objectively worse than it, then it becomes an objectively the better choice for such a buyer. However, many of the points this reviewer mentioned were, in fact, subjective: The interior of the Ariya is objectively better than the Hyundai's, but he just preferred the Ioniq's interior and looked for any way to bash the Ariya's; and he subjectively thought the Ioniq's styling was better and subsequently spent time bashing the Ariya's. A .5 difference in 0-60 speed, especially when it's around the already-fast, 6-second mark, is not going to be felt by an average driver. And, the almost insignificant 5-mile advantage in range can easily be swayed either way depending on a number of factors. I'm not saying exaggeratively that the Ioniq's not any good. It seems like a great car! But, to place it at such a markedly higher score than the Ariya's seems out of place and biased - especially considering the Aariya's better and more comfortable interior, which is where one objectively spends all of one's time when driving...even "in 2023."
@@Naldynator you are missing the point entirely, objectively what does the Ariya do better? The only reason to buy it is subjective, like looks or you like the way it drives. Objectively the Ariya charges slower than the competition, it isn’t as fast as the competition, and it costs more than the competition. I don’t hate the Ariya, I think it looks good, but it’s nothing special in a class of very good cars. Objectively the ionic 5 charges faster than the competition, it costs less than the competition, and it is middle of the pack on everything it isn’t better at. The Ariya is not best in class at a single thing I am aware of, and it is at the bottom of the list on most things. Edmunds is objective, you are highly pro Nissan.
@@roger6246 This! And the fact that Chevy is being moronic by refusing to include AA/Carplay in their new line of EVs. No AA/Carplay means no interest from me!
I test drove the Hyundai and agree with you on the rental car vibe - the 80s are calling and want their cheap and nasty looking silver spray paint back. I've had my top spec Ariya for 4 months now and have no complaints. Interior is streets ahead of ths EV5 and DC charging speeds are fine as there are still very few really fast chargers here in Ireland. In any case I do 99% of my charging at home.
Though the Ariya debuted first, it hit the market second and in that time the Ioniq 5 has established itself at the top of the segment. Do you think the Nissan has enough style and substance to knock it down a peg? Let us know in the comments below.
Can you guys do an all inclusive electric test between Toyota/subaru, Nissan, Hyundai/Kia, VW and Tesla Average price around $50 k.
Infinity Q50 red sport vs Acura TLX type S performance
Ioniq 5 is really nice- and gets tremendous range if driven gently- our car shows an estimated 330 miles when we charge it fully. 2022 SEL AWD
Ariya is quality inside and outside. It’s more like an Infiniti, to be honest. Honestly, not sure why its compared to Ioniq 5. Ioniq 5 is consumer choice for sure, mostly for its affordability. But Ariya got the lux.
But the Ariya is a better effort than the bz4x
True, but so is every other EV.
@@spcneary true. Although it’s so easy to beat the bz4x. Even the already awful mx30 beats it
My couch is a better EV than the Toyota
for the years of experience nissan has accumulated it better is. toyota are total amateurs so thats no surprise. they had to learn how to mount wheels
❤❤❤.. Toyota 💩💩💩💩
I tested an SEL RWD Ioniq today and it was extremely impressive. If you can get one in the mid $40's (which definitely seems possible with certain incentives) then I think it is a very compelling vehicle. No experience with the Ariya yet.
I don't feel very good about being compared to the likes of Ariya as an owner of Ionic 5, but
If Ionic 5 sets a textbook example as an electric car, then it would be accurate to say how faithfully Nissan has imitated Hyundai.
Nissan imitating Hyundai, hahaha what you ON man?
I prefer the look of the Ariya. Hoping to get one soon.
Brian is a gift that the internet does not deserve
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video
There is no doubt that KIA is the present EV king particularly when you consider price. Tesla should take notice since their biggest threat has always been major car makers making EV's that are better than theirs. The Ionic is exactly that. The Japanese efforts on EV's have been late, weak and a generation behind, hopefully Honda's wait till its competitive strategy bears a much better vehicle. The Aria is not half bad, the Toyota is an embarrassment.
Mercedes BMW and Audi have already ensured that Tesla has no chance of encroaching on their turf.
styling is so subjective, its one area that reviews should probably shy away from. I personally prefer the styling of the Ariya to the Ioniq, again that is purely subjective though
I debated the two and bought the Ariya. More comfortable interior, wireless apple car play, a higher ride, better safety features, better interior materials.
Hi there, I too am shopping for a new EV and am comparing these 2 exact cars. I love the look of Ariya- so much sexier, but the interior looks cheaply done to me, comparing to Ionic 5. I absolutely love those 2 screens in Hyundai. Seats feel more comfortable too. What i DO love about Ariya is higher ground clearance (I live in Alaska and so high snow could be an issue) and like a said before- the overall exterior design. But I love that Hyundai is offering $7500 tax credit, unlike Nissan. So not sure which one I'll end up getting. Also dealership people at Nissan up here don't seem to be working as hard as Hyundai people when it comes to selling you the car, they seem to be less knowledgable too. It's not like I'm buying a $30 lapdance. It's 50K!!! Sell it to me!🤦♀️🤷♀️
Plus the ariya has a rear windshield wiper which for some reason the ioniq doesn’t
Helpful! I'm lusting for an Ioniq 5 Limited AWD… but it's hard to find one in my preferred configuration. I wonder when the 2024 model will appear…? I also would like to know if Hyundai will, indeed, join the NACS transition…?
The Aryia estep doesn't bring you to complete stop so you are forced to use brakes from time to time that keeps them from seizing up due to lack of use. Something that happened with leaf's and I would expect in the ionic 5 as well if you did full single pedal driving for long periods of time.
The IONIQ 5 is programed to use the brakes so they will not seize up. Leaders in many ways.
Having sold my Model Y for a 2023 Ariya Evolve+ awd it’s a much better vehicle than the Tesla. Range is accurate for the highway where my Tesla was way overrated. The Hyundai feels heavy, interior and electronics are not up to the Nissan. Honestly Nissan only failed by not making this model an Infinity. If you are in the market get an Ariya plus (big battery) and awd. The used car market makes these cars a steal.
I was swayed by all this negative biased reporting till I looked for myself.
I have the Ioniq and am checking out the Ariya. Thanks for this video! Fun Fact: my 12 pound dog LOVES resting in the center console of the Ioniq. Super spacious for napping.
How about addressing charge times, range, etc..
OK...Ioniq5 has Ariya beat by far on charging speed, range is similar however I5 is more efficient as it has 10kwh smaller battery. Hope that helps?
We own a 22 AWD I5 Ultimate trim...fantastic car!
Mike
If a Leaf had NACS charging i'd probably go that instead. I agree with the other commenter, this is still a better choice over the bZ4X.
I would personally take the Ariya just because the interior is so much higher quality than the Ioniq.
The Ariya has a rear wiper, and I think its a little higher off the ground. Those are the only advantages. I went to test drive an Ariya and the 12 volt battery was dead. By the time they had it fixed, two weeks later, I wasn’t sure I really wanted to bother test driving it. I was able to sit in one and I didn’t much care for the haptic buttons and the Although I thought I’d like the lantern effect on the doors, it looked cheap to me. In the end though, the only real problem with the Ariya, is the price.
Would have been nice to touch on the e4orce system in the Nissan (particularly the anti pitch feature), since that’s really the only thing the Nissan has going for it.
“SUV” is like not even a real acronym anymore , these are big harrchabacks I’m so over being told things are what they aren’t with enough marketing… strange times. Great cars tho
How come no reviewers see the Aryia center console as a story for making the front cabin seating and leg room space more open. I find it feels more like the open space experience you used on only get from a mini-van and in this case without having to drive a mini-van to get it.
The styling on the Ariya looks better than the Ioniq, dare I say more luxurious.....
Yes, exterior 100%. But it felt cheap to me inside and less comfortable than Ionic 5 did
@@Katya2U weird because most people who reviewed/tested both cars said the Ariya has better interior.
The more choices the better. Nice comparison. I must be odd because $60K still seems like a lot of money to me.
...that's because $60k is a lot of money for an electric Rogue.
@@K03sport that actually* made me laugh out loud 😄
@@Its_me_CC...well, not sure if the Aryia is a Rogue, Murano, or some other French SUV. it might be ground up construction, but knowing Nissan, they used at least 60% of another vehicle in production to build the Aryia from; it's what they do (see new Frontier, Z)
$60k is a lot of money. We've just been conditioned to accept it. I had a hard time spending $40k on a 3-row crossover.
Can afford and want to afford are two different things.
@@oambrosia Mileage?
Nice
Ariya internal build (battery, electronics, etc) quality will be definitely better.
Better? the level of Ariya was low even in Japan...
your review does not cover AWD specific features. Wish you could include:
* vehicles on rollers to test wheels loosing grip and AWD system's response.
* motors dis-engage under which conditions.
I hate the flush door handles on the hyundai ioniq5 and the kia EV6 nissan ariya and the chevy blazer ev are my favorites
Lets see how they compare 4 years from now.
I love the decent central storage space in the Ioniq. I absolutely love a car where you can place a grocery bag or small bin for trash. I abhor cars with closed off central front row space. I understand not wanting the liability for items jumping over a fence from the middle and into the driver's side floor. But with sufficient fencing, that's not an issue. Do some testing on the track to verify that items don't jump out, and an OEM has done their safety diligence--their arse should be legally covered. I don't understand who these humans are who never need even the smallest refuse container/bag in their cars.
It's funny he said he tried to match that 0-60 time Nissan post but he never stated whether the test was above sea level or below sea level and clearly on weather conditions ...
What tires did you use and was the battery fully charged in sport mode ..
What he is saying is quite bias towards Nissan and that plainly says don't trust these car reviews unless you can see them really doing those test .
Their test track is within a few hundred feet of sea level. But why would that matter? An EV shouldn't be affected by air density...
@@oambrosiaikr😂 the op thinks air density makes a difference.
@@JohnLee-db9zt maybe he is on to something. As the air is less dense at altitude, there's less wind resistance! I mean baseballs do travel farther at Coors Field...
Biggest Cons of the 2022 to 2024 IONIQ 5:
# 1 Dangerous Safety Hazard with obstructed oversized pillas due to rear AC vents in the chest height area of the rear doors, the AC wiring and construction going
into these pillars means they're very thick and it reduces your manual blind spot (looking over your shoulder) visibility by 50%.
#2 Erratic and unreliable long term Level 2 charging : Even if your one of the lucky owners who gets the 2022 through 2024 models that only require the
software update to fix the faulty Level 2 charging recall-defect, it's uncertain, whether your going to be able to get anywhere close to the orginol manufactuer's specs of
charging from 10 to 80% in 6.3 hours, many people are stuck with charging speeds at half that speed and that's the best they'll ever get:
The best solution to this of course would be an entire change and re-install of the entire costly ICCU module that has a completely different enhanced design starting with the
2025 models, but no way is Hyundai going to go that extra mile for it's past customers, unless it's absolutely proven necessary and there are a lot of hurdles to overcome
if you try to argue, that you deserve this superior fix. (estimates I've read is that the replacement or repair of the ICCU is apx 4,000)
Biggest Suprise of the 2022 to 2025 IONIQ 5: It's actually noticably quieter in the cabin than even the resdesigned 2024 VW ID models
with it's greater horsepower,
"Actually". Without it, it isn't true. 🤔
#Ariya 😎👌#Design #Quality #Comfort #Premium and great #performance with #e4ORCE 🏆
they can only charge ahead if they are amped up. so w/2 big manufacturers switching to Tesla charging, how many others will follow suit?
The Hyundai does not have Android auto? But the Tucson does. I think that's strange. I've been looking forward to getting rid of my aux cord for so long, I don't think I want to keep using a wire. Such obsolete technology.
Why are you comparing a 5-door hatch with an SUV? Chalk and cheese surely. Both are adventurously styled, both really aimed at families, just in different ways.... I'll have either please!
Um.....Most everything being sold is a "5 Door hatch" regardless of label!
The Nissan ayria is very nice but it’s in the sun so I have to pass
They IONIQ 5 is a cut above before you even consider the cavernous fiscal gap between the two. 14:34
Oh, Edmunds. Showing your anti-Nissan bias, again. So many other automotive authorities are praising the Ariya - especially its interior (with it winning Auto Ward's Best Interior prize) - and here you are bashing Nissan, once again. They can never do anything right by y'all. I'd much prefer the Ariya. Have seen and sat in both the Ioniq5 and the Ariya and the Ariya feels like the higher-quality, more luxurious offering. (And, it was in an awesome dark green color, which showed splashes of purple, blue and black, too - with beautiful copper-colored detailing in the interior.) The seats were by far more comfortable in the Ariya, as well. Didn't get to drive 'em - but, with what I saw and felt, it was no contest. Nevertheless, I like this guy's reviewing style.
The Ariya is objectively not as good as the i5, most EVs out currently aside from the Nissan leaf and BZ4 have something going for them, the Ariya would have been good in 2020 but it is not worth the money in any objective way in 2023.
@@spcneary To say it's "not worth the money in ANY objective way" sounds very SUBjective to me, actually, in addition to exaggerative. Objectively, as the reviewer stated himself, it is is a very good car. If someone subjectively hates the weird styling of the Hyundai, for instance, and the NIssan is not significanly objectively worse than it, then it becomes an objectively the better choice for such a buyer. However, many of the points this reviewer mentioned were, in fact, subjective: The interior of the Ariya is objectively better than the Hyundai's, but he just preferred the Ioniq's interior and looked for any way to bash the Ariya's; and he subjectively thought the Ioniq's styling was better and subsequently spent time bashing the Ariya's. A .5 difference in 0-60 speed, especially when it's around the already-fast, 6-second mark, is not going to be felt by an average driver. And, the almost insignificant 5-mile advantage in range can easily be swayed either way depending on a number of factors. I'm not saying exaggeratively that the Ioniq's not any good. It seems like a great car! But, to place it at such a markedly higher score than the Ariya's seems out of place and biased - especially considering the Aariya's better and more comfortable interior, which is where one objectively spends all of one's time when driving...even "in 2023."
yea the arya is fancier but the Ioniq 5 seems to be the better engineered car and much cheaper
@@Naldynator you are missing the point entirely, objectively what does the Ariya do better? The only reason to buy it is subjective, like looks or you like the way it drives. Objectively the Ariya charges slower than the competition, it isn’t as fast as the competition, and it costs more than the competition. I don’t hate the Ariya, I think it looks good, but it’s nothing special in a class of very good cars. Objectively the ionic 5 charges faster than the competition, it costs less than the competition, and it is middle of the pack on everything it isn’t better at. The Ariya is not best in class at a single thing I am aware of, and it is at the bottom of the list on most things. Edmunds is objective, you are highly pro Nissan.
@@spcneary I am 🤣
Everyone forgets the Bolt and EUV. 🤡
Maybe because Chevy has stopped selling them- so there is no sense talking about obsolete vehicles.
@@roger6246 This! And the fact that Chevy is being moronic by refusing to include AA/Carplay in their new line of EVs. No AA/Carplay means no interest from me!
The Hyundai looks real rental car inside to me
And Arya doesn’t? 😂
I test drove the Hyundai and agree with you on the rental car vibe - the 80s are calling and want their cheap and nasty looking silver spray paint back. I've had my top spec Ariya for 4 months now and have no complaints. Interior is streets ahead of ths EV5 and DC charging speeds are fine as there are still very few really fast chargers here in Ireland. In any case I do 99% of my charging at home.
@@andrewmorgan1802 Too late
what about Kia?? lol
This car is a hard pass!!! Seems like everything about it is a miss.
Not realy😂