2023 Hyundai Ioniq 6 vs. 2023 Tesla Model 3 | Electric Sedan Comparison Test | Price, Range & More!
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- The Tesla Model 3 has been largely unchallenged in the entry-level premium electric sedan segment - until now, that is. The all-new 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 6 is the first true competitor to the Model 3, so we put the two head-to-head. Did Hyundai build a better Tesla? Or will the Model 3 reign supreme? Find out with Edmunds’ Brian Wong in our electric sedan comparison test above!
Hyundai Ioniq 6 pricing & review: edmu.in/3fyrnSn
Tesla Model 3 pricing & review: edmu.in/TM3
00:00 Intro
01:16 Ioniq 6 Driving Impressions
04:13 Tesla Model 3 Driving Impressions
06:43 Exterior Styling
08:05 Cargo
09:36 Interior
15:37 Charging & Range
17:15 Pricing
19:15 Edmunds' Take
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These two electric sedans could not look and feel more different. Do you prefer the Model 3's subtle curves or the Ioniq 6's head-turning, pixelated stylings? Let us know in the comments!
I wonder if they are making any money on the car? It's already a little more expensive than the Tesla, but if it's not being made at a profit, it's just going to be another EV with limited availability. So far, it seems only Tesla and China manufacturers have been able to make the cars for less than what they're selling them for.
You nailed it on the charging network. I would have a Polestar in a minute if not for that. I'm in a model 3 but really want something else.
@@dereklwashington1132 same boat for me. Also other vehicles are just a bit pricier than what their value is to me, while having less features than a Tesla. I just want a cheap electric car with a good charging network, whenever they open up the supercharger network I'll probably switch.
They're both hideous but no one is paying $14k more for the I6 vs the M3 (with the tax credit). Even if you drop down to the SEL trim for the I6 the price difference is just ridiculous.
its NO comparison. hands down the FREMONT built model 3 is SUPERIOR in every way.
the IONIQ 6 uses an OUTDATED GiMP platform , and the IONIQ 6 is built too HEAVY & INEFFICIENT.
the IONIQ 6 is lacking Structural Battery pack & Front & Rear GIGACASTINGS (Austin model Y) .
the IONIQ 6 even lacks a REAR only Gigacasting (BERLIN model Y).
the IONIQ 6 Drivetrain and THERMAL system is INEFFICIENT , as Evidenced by the MUNRO Teardown of the car .
the IONIQ 6 has a Hybrid thermal System that uses both PTC heaters & a HEAT pump , but its NOT as Energy Efficient as any TESLA Thermal or Drivetrain.
its got too MANY coolant lines , running too far away from the Pumps, & the Pumps are not even close to one another. not to mention ALL the Discrete parts & FASTNERS required.
in a word , INEFFICIENT.
this ALL adds up to COST . and they have NOT even counted how many Discrete CONTROLLERS the IONIQ 6 uses, hint it uses way MORE CONTROLLERS and Hyundai does not make its own CONTROLLERS.
TESLA in 2023 makes about 60% of own Controllers in the model 3 , in the CYBERTRUCK they are going to 48v system & 80% TESLA made Controllers.
in the TESLA next gen vehicle it will be 100% TESLA made Controllers.
The more EVs the better. Let's go. Drive down that cost.
with LEGACY auto , you can have COST or SAFETY , but NOT both.
TESLA offers Affordable price , w/ no COMPROMISE in Safety.
@@markplott4820no thanks.
I love this ev
Ev producers, other than Tesla, cannot compete with lower prices without lowering workers wages and lower quality. All because Tesla are almost completely making their own components and having the most efficient factories.
@@mrm.5787only at this moment
This guy is wrong about the range on the ionic six. He stated that the ionic six range is only like 265 miles per food charge or something like that. However, the long range ionic six goes up to 361 miles per full charge, which is further than the model three. Some of these UA-camrs don’t have all the facts straight.
SEL or Limited AWD get that number.
Everyone knows the Model 3 has a relatively stiff suspension profile, but it handles really well for a 4 door sedan. Quite a bit better than the Ionic 6 in my experience. The Hyundai has a highway cruising advantage with the well tuned softer suspension, but the idea it navigates city streets and cornering better than the Tesla is frankly ridiculous. Some people find it difficult to hide their political differences with Elon, and I suspect the harsh criticisms of the Tesla laced throughout this comparison is a result of this phenomenon.
When a reviewer is selling me this hard on a car that's being compared to one of the most capable EV's ever made, I can smell the agenda from a mile away.
Nailed it. Even the smaller cargo capacity ended up an advantage for the Ionic 6 somehow. lol
40 extra miles of range in the Tesla is useless according to him, too. 😆
Don't forget the big red LIAR stamp near the end. Just in case the nods they gave to the Model 3 to feign objectivity fooled anyone.
Yea, this guy wanted to hate on Tesla so bad, bias was obvious. The ioniq 6 is a pos as shown by its terrible sales. They're giving them away in leases. You can get them for $99/month with $0 down right now.
The best review I've come across! Well done! Also the only review to actually put some luggage in the back and show that cargo capacity is bigger than it seems. Awesome stuff, thank you!
Just hit 1k miles in my Ioniq 6 limited long range rwd. Absolutely love the car. Fit and finish is well executed and rides very nice. The rebates don’t apply for everyone, if you’re a high earner all those incentives are off the table. We paid 62k OTD with a 150k/10yr bumper to bumper warranty in Southern California.
>> The rebates don’t apply for everyone
Finally someone with brain. Enjoy your car.
@@avis1978lol Kia Hyundai= disposable vehicles 😂
@@MrTmenzo you are disposable too 🤡.
Without the pricing difference it's a close fight going in favour of the Tesla, with the Tesla winning on range and efficiency handily (10% more range but with a smaller pack means cheaper to run), storage by a lot (it has nearly double including frunk), charging network, speed and acceleration, software and features, whilst the Hyundai is more comfortable, quieter, more distinctive looking and more conventional car layout inside (the last two of which might be a plus for some), other stats are broadly comparable.
But factoring in price? The it's not even close. You can get a Model 3 long range for $14k less than the Hyundai as tested, which makes it a total no brainer.
It's also worth noting that with a referral code, you can get a good chunk of free charging when you buy.
Hopefully Hyundai actually make a decent number of the Ioniq 6, seems like a good car for the rest if the world (or the US if they can get eligibility for the IRA)
I mean you could save 10K on the ionic 6 as well by going for the mid trim which has close to 100 more miles of range which is not only more efficient than the Tesla Model 3 but actually has more range and put some more kilowatts per minute in the battery due to faster charging
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br less practical (much less storage), awful charging network and still more expensive
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2brenjoy paying dealer markups! Something Tesla doesn’t have. 😊
I saw one of these and it looks pretty slick IRL, though the sleek design of the back end of the car appears to significantly affect its cargo capacity.
That's one of the things covered in this video. Apparently the cargo space is pretty close between these two except when you move the backseats down
Great review. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Great review 👏.
One thing to note, the 2023 Model 3 AWD Performace which is the heaviest version of the Model 3 has a curb weight now of only 4,048 lbs. The short range version is 3,550 lbs.
This Ioniq 6 AWD version is a portly 4,600 lbs. ! So hard to believe his strange take on the Model 3 not handling well while the Ioniq 6 does. The Model 3 in fact is often tracked and does quite well even as stock (minus the street brakes)
I test drove model 3 long range awd and the handling is amazing. Handles better than any car I’ve ever driven and I’ve driven quite a few cars.
I was wondering what he was talking about with the poor handling, I thought it might be the added weight of the dual motor version. My RWD handles great. Very low center of gravity, it still feels heavy, but handles the weight with ease.
What a good video. Each section dealt with one by one. Thanks. Ioniq 6 for me.
This was helpful the video was great but I agree, I originally wanted tesla model 3 rwd...I'm a delivery driver and with the rebates in ca right now as well as the price reduction by tesla you could get up to 22,500 in rebates alone if you qualify for the highest amounts...that is half the cost of a tesla dramatically reduces your upfront costs, your financing, and even your monthly payments. I also heard america chargers are a nightmare and tesla super chargers are awesome and quick...the ioniq 6 almost had me. Ive been doing research for about 3 months for rebates charging options electric vehicles...etc another thing to keep in mind the additional rebates you can get from cvrp and cvgp only qualify for cars 55,000 or less...the 7,500 irs tax credit i think still qualifies for hyundai ioniq 6 ...but if you want 20000+ in rebates any car under 55000 is better.
Note for the note @12:16....The more accurate explanation for the lack of wireless AA/Apple Car Play is that, on screens that have the built-in navigation, the wireless feature is eliminated to encourage owners to use the native Hyundai app. I'm sure there is a cost savings as well, but not sure if that is factored into the decision. I own a 2023 Hyundai Venue Limited with an 8 inch screen. It has built in navigation, but no wireless AA/ACP feature.
Nice Review.
Good cars and good review but you should test the longer range Ioniq 6's if you are testing the long range M3. The bigger 20" wheels on the I6 cut the range by @15% over the models with the 18" wheels.
That is the long-range Ionic 6 😂. He said in the video at 18:39
Even with advanced autopilot and before taking into account the $7,500 tax credit it is STILL cheaper than the Ionic 6. If you buy the hyundia you clearly don't care about the value of your money. Simple as that
@@DIYitsEASY Not 🙃. Top "Limited" with an EPA of 270 miles as per the vid is the Ioniq AWD top trim range. The Ioniq Long Range RWD has an EPA of 360 something while the AWD Ioniq with the 18" wheels has an EPA of 300 something miles.
@@michaelcollier8768 how can you compare the two when one is awd and the other is not? The comparison in this video is based on price. And a long range ionic 6 at 47k$ is alot more expensive than a model 3 standard range at 33k$
@@michaelcollier8768 the problem is, there is no true comparison to Tesla's vehicles so you will be running in circles trying to find the best fit for a video like this.
@@DIYitsEASY My point is . . . what's the point of comparing range between the Long Range M3 and the shortest range Ioniq 6? Silly. If it's apples to apples then compare with the "Long Range" AWD Ioniq 6. Highway driving over mountains here in BC Canada our Ioniq 6 AWD with 18" wheels is getting 320+ miles at @70mph. City and Highway combo is north of 350 miles.
How do you get the Ioniq into auto-regen without turning on the cruise control?
Yes, it is about time something competitive finally takes on the Model 3. With that said, the tax rebates and credits really put some space between the two. It is also nice to know if you buy a Model 3, you will be buying a vehicle that uses more American sourced parts and labor than anything other than a Model Y. I get a large part of the population does not care, but then complains when their economic issues.
After my 2012 Camry decided it was done after 243,000 miles, I decided to get an EV and went with the Model 3. I think the Tesla software and use of space is hard to beat. The Sentry mode and Pet mode are great. The Tesla app is very useful and easy to use. Scheduling the vehicle to charge during off peak times when at home and to precondition the interior 15 minutes before I get off work has been great.
I went with the Tesla RWD, so the most basic one they sell, but it does not feel basic. I love that it allows for 100% charging all the time. One thing people in the EV world know is many batteries have to be kept around 85% or below most of the time. As Tesla notes, there is daily charging, so what you would charge a battery to on regular basis and then there is trip max charging. Those times when you will be driving 300 or more miles in a day type of thing. With the LFP in the 2023 Model 3 RWD, I charge to 100% all the time and it show 273 miles of range, but I think 240 miles is closer to what people will get with regular driving, AC on, etc.
The one pedal driving has been great. I had always heard about how nice one pedal driving can be. It is something many builders do not do well, but from what I understand Hyundai Group does well with it. I can only speak for Tesla, because of driving a Model 3 and Model Y.
It is impressive what Hyundai has done with their EV platform. It feels like many different models, yet they share much in common. For the average person the GV60, Ionic 5 & 6, and the EV6 would not be thought of as sharing the same platform.
The over the air updates is something that gets glossed over by many reviewers. Tesla has truly mastered the OTA. Most other companies are still sorting it out. I have heard Hyundai Group has made big improvements on OTA compared to a year ago and I hope the trend continues. One of the reasons I went with a Tesla was how some owners of three year old Tesla vehicles said they still get features added by Tesla via OTA. The future automotive market I believe will demand solid software which will include OTA, so VW, Ford, etc, had best get their acts together.
My Tesla Model 3 RWD has the 18 inch wheel package and feel nice. It is a big improvement over my 2012 Camry, which one should hope that is the case.
One thing that is kind of hard to track or compare is how Tesla makes changes on a regular basis. Someone buying a Model 3 built in March of 2022 might be shocked at all the changes made by November of 2022. I know my 2023 Model 3 has the lithium battery instead of the basic 12 volt battery which has been a problem for many EV owners. It is something that better software is helping to deal with, but the 15.5 volt lithium battery Tesla put in the Model 3 and Y solves that issue. For the average consumer, they would have no idea that change happened, but it is an important improvement. I like that Tesla does not wait for model years to make changes.
I really do think it comes down to preferences in style and willingness to pay for that style. For those who are not big fans of change and hate computers, I could see the appeal of the Hyundai Group EVs. The more buttons can feel more closer to a traditional vehicle. I found after about twenty minutes driving I got use to the rolling computer that is a Tesla.
If anyone is buying a Tesla, remember to check the new in inventory vehicles. These are already built and often offer a little more savings. When I bought my Model 3 RWD it was about $1500 cheaper than ordering a new one to be built. I ordered one from inventory on a Monday and got it on a Thursday. The wait is not long and the extra savings was welcomed.
Not dealing with dealerships has to be considered. I know it has little to do with driving a vehicle, but dealers can be a real pain and markups and hidden fees are annoying. I ordered my Tesla from home and did all the loan paperwork and vehicle paperwork from home. I am using Tesla insurance as well, so I had my insurance already squared away. When I went to pickup my vehicle, it took all of five minutes. It was a nice experience.
Love seeing more great EVs coming out. Cannot wait for the day when people can pick from five or six EV sedans that do not cost an arm and leg from different builders. Having many companies competing is best for consumers. I do think by 2026 the selection will be so much wider and we may see some very nice options in the $25,000 and under segment for EVs.
Very interesting! I also got the Model 3 RWD from inventory(new vehicle). I got the midnight silver and since it's in inventory I got it for cheaper and I get 30 days of premium connectivity and 3 months of supercharging which is awesome! I also ordered it Monday night and got to take delivery Tuesday night
Thank you for the long post. I was seeing both of these cars. But I think I'm going with Tesla.
Excellent points and explanation. Overall Tesla is better than any other EV despite its flaws. I got the M3 RWD also. It's the cheapest but it feels premium because of the features that you only see in premium ICE cars.
Thank you for the well balanced report. Seeing reviews like this from people who aren't on the extremes with their opinion about Tesla is very valuable. I'm looking into an EV as well, and I just want the best value for my money. I could really care less what the badge is or how often the CEO puts his foot in his mouth. I think we'd find most CEOs insufferable if they had the spotlight on them as much as Elon has.
How you you find the wind/road noise, and the ride quality at highway speeds? It's one of the biggest factors driving me away from Tesla at the moment.
@@jaredreyes3153 honestly for my Model 3 RWD . The ride quality is amazing. Seats in the M3RWD are much more comfortable than the model Y imo, but the wind noise is very present. This is probably the only downside for me as there are times when I notice it and other times when I won't. I feel like there are good solutions to the wind noise but I haven't bothered to find them.
One thing I think EV reviewers overemphasize is the car's in-built charger routing capability. Third party apps like PlugShare pretty much moot this as a significant factor in purchase decisions for most people. The one exception is if you live somewhere unusually hot or cold and the ability to input a charger location into the car's nav for purposes of enabling battery preconditioning might improve charging speeds when you plug in.
Big difference in convenience. In a Tesla, you don't need to do any additional route planning on another device. Put in your destination and route and charger stops are all there. Battery preconditions automatically too. Other apps you have to fry and filter out destination chargers to find the DC fast chargers you need. Not the cars fault, but the quality of the charge you find is iffy at best.
@@davekozlowski1266 You see it as a big difference in convenience; I see it as a minor advantage at most to Tesla. Especially since the fiddly task of filtering for one's preferred networks and plug types etc. only needs to be done once.
I guess it depends on one's particular preferences, how often they go on long roadtrips, etc. Given that most people do maybe 90% if not more of their charging at home, and only embark on long trips infrequently, I don't think it's a significant factor for most owners. Which is why I think most reviewers spend more time on it than is warranted.
Actually, given their relative frequency of use, I think the unavailability of AA/CarPlay in Teslas would be considered a good deal more of an inconvenience for most people than having to use third party route-planning apps. But that's just a guess; I'm sure there are drivers who don't feel this way, and I could be wrong on the aggregate sentiment.
I disagree, proper routing and preconditioning is a basic requirement for EVs. There's no excuse in 2023 for any EVs to be missing these features.
@@officialyasir You're entitled to your opinion, of course, and I agree that there is no reason why an OEM at this point shouldn't have this sorted. But as a practical matter I really don't think it's that significant an issue insofar as daily use of a vehicle is concerned for most people, who seldom take long roadtrips and who indeed seldom even use DCFC. For someone who does long roadtrips and/or who regularly relies on DCFC it does bear significantly on a vehicle's usability, but that isn't the vast majority of EV owners.
We own 2 cars that shipped without any facility for preconditioning en route to a chargepoint. The OEM has since improved the car to provide for battery preconditioning when routing to a chargepoint is entered into the onboard nav system. Does it improve the car? Make it better? Yes and yes. Will this improvement make any real practical difference to me operating the car? Not significantly. I mean, I certainly am not complaining that it'll shave maybe 5-10 minutes off my charging times when I go on long roadtrips maybe a couple times over the upcoming winter. But this slight improvement has very little bearing on how I feel about using the car on the daily.
As always, YMMV of course.
Does plugshare really work in the US? Here in Europe we have no App that could help us in every country. Tesla, BMW, Mercedes and VW are ok. Polestar is acceptable. All others are meehhh.
In the end, I chose the Hyundai because of its safety features, spacious interior, and the overall feel of the car. While the Tesla Model 3's supercharger network and software were appealing, I found the price difference too significant to overlook. The Hyundai provided excellent value for my money, and I believe it's worth the investment.
How much trouble are you having charging your car? Have you gone on any long road trips?
@9:20 cant you just push the seats down with whatever cargo youre trying to fit in from the rear?
I don't know why but the styling of the Ioniq 6 reminds me of the old design language of the 2007 I-mate 5150 smartphone. It's like throwback styling
I test drove both of these cars. I enjoyed both. In the end I bought the RWD Tesla Model 3, because of the wide price difference and the supercharger network alone with the superior software. The Hyundai is a great car to drive, but it is too expensive for what it is.
Thanks for sharing!
7500 rebate is a no brainer... Reviewers don’t take into account OTA updates, it has improved my MYP tremendously over the last year alone... Hyundai is making good cars tho, but the software leaves a lot to be desired. Next gen should be a lot better.
@@edmundscars - facts are TESLA model 3 RWD is the most EFFICIENT car on EARTH.
its over 132 mpg.
@@markplott4820
battery degradation for 4 mile : Tesla MY -5% Ioniq 5 -1%
I came to the same conclusion and bought the Tesla Model 3 RWD. While I really like the Ioniq 6, I couldn't justify the cost difference.
The ionic 5 did what to the Tesla model Y? 🤔
dethrown.
@@TnTteam09 I thought the model Y became the best selling car in the world recently....
Haha, I laughed at that too. I feel like their rankings and testing lack real customer experience. I really like the Ioniq5 but I don't want to deal with shady Hyundai dealerships for the buying and maintenance. I recently found out Ioniq5 requires a coolant change every 35k miles and dealers are charging all different prices for it. What a hassle! And now the Model Y is so much cheaper, it's a no brainier.
@@therealfrenchie23 Thats a Elon scam. In reality it was a camouflaged Ford Model T. Of course the Ioniq5 is the much better car. And the VW ID4 is even better! And if you want a real car you must buy a Governmoent Motors Chevy Bolt.
What do you expect of people that get paid by Hyundai, Ford, Kia, Mercedes etc. Do you really think they are unbiased? Do you really think they want to loose their salaries and are unable to pay their daughters horse stable fees and the nice litltle appartment für their mistress?
@@therealfrenchie23 Yeap. They are just talking rubbish.
None of this matters of Hyundai can't deliver cars. In Canada, it is a two-year wait for an Ioniq 5 Limited.
In Canada the T3 AWD LR is $7000.00 more than the top line I6, that said this is a great review video for someone looking to buy
Can the 18 inch wheels on a Model 3 be replaced using the 18 inch wheels from the Ioniq 6? I am leaning toward the Model 3, but I'm not a real big fan of the 18 inch Aero black wheels. The Ioniq 6 has the 18 inch wheels with the silver blades on them that I think look much more sleek.
The black aero wheels are just a cover. Remove them and you have silver spokes. Keep them on and get more range, especially at highway speeds.
You forgot to mention the Hyundai’s V2L feature. IMO that’s a big advantage. Tesla wants you to buy solar and Powerwalls to power your home. The Ioniq 6 gives you the option to use the car as a backup generator for emergencies. It won’t power your house, but could run a few key items in a pinch. Hopefully Hyundai adopts the NACS standard going forward.
V2L is not needed, TESLA now $500 REBATE on Powerwalls .
I d not know what i could do with this feature. I do not have any use case for V2L or V2G.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 Same. I see this as a non-factor to be honest. One of those features you might use once in the life of the car, and wouldn't really miss if you didn't have it.
@@garyco766 Many swear for massage seats. Me not. Many swear for HUD. Me not. Maybe because I’m driving 45000km each year and do not WANT to sit longer in a car.
What i would like to have is matrix LED headlights that work. A always working speed limit detection and correct working reaction „system“. And possibly - if allowed - full self driving for everybody. And 100km/h for all on the Autobahn. That way those posers with their big fat Range Rovers and Volvos get less posing times.
But V2G or V2H is not in my checklist.
I know with the Tesla Model 3 I heard of mobile mechanics where they will come to your home to maintain your vehicle. Does this benefit exist with the Hyundai Ioniq 6 or would you have to drive it into a Hyundai auto shop?
The Ioniq in Black, with those 21" black accented wheels, is red-hot FIRE!❤🔥🔥
Bought a ioniq6 SEL AWD yesterday and they didn’t say anything about electrify America but they did say I can use their fast chargers 24/7. I signed up for both 😅 I want all my extras
Pretty satisfy with my model 3 RWD, currently I don’t think anything can beat it’s price.. the inventory price is 37.7k, if including the tax credit, it would be around 30k. I also have a Subaru Outback, I agree with the suspension on model 3 is terrible, but the drive experience isn’t that bad though. The EV sounds interesting is the Volvo Ex30, not this ionic6 😅 it looks so dated… (ionic5 looks unfinished… love EV6 though!)
The rear headroom is significantly better on models without the sunroof.
Better buy one with "rainroof".
This is fun! Looking forward to more EV options. Love that the Ioniq profile looks a little like a Porsche. I’m looking forward to the Fiat US comeback with their 500 EV.
Wifey loves her Fiat 500E rose gold cabrio. Me - not so much. Its too small, i hate buttons and its very slow compared to my Model Y.
Yeah it does look like the Porsche
I was thinking Saab
I have a 2018 M3... tested the red 2023 Ioniq6 on the weekend. was very impressed! I find the commentary too biased toward the Ioniq6. Body roll? really?! Both with have body roll at high speed.. but still stable. Driver display is weird.. but HUD is a nice feature. As one comment mentioned... charging infrastructure is a big Tesla +. Also too many buttons paddles etc on the steering wheel. I had 2 Hyundais... love them.. love this ..but if I upgrade it will still be a Tesla...M3 or MY.
I find review orgs like Edmunds and Consumer Reports are biased toward legacy autos. I expect they cannot afford to tick off the big guys, plus Tesla has nothing to do with them. Too bad.. it would be nice to see them be more unbiased.
A lot has changed with the M3 2024 update - suspension & ride quality and ventilated seats at minimum 🙂
What are you kidding? you're comparing storage say they fit the same, yet ignoring the huge storage the model 3 has under the floor (you mentioned it, but when you compared you ignored it)
Thx for not just concentrating on 0 to 60 I'm more concerned with daily driving than stop light burnouts.
270.000km in different Teslas since 2019. They work. Stop.
I so agree! Maybe 0-60 is a good stat for easy (if not terribly meaningful) comparisons among vehicles. But 50-70 mph is by far the more relevant metric, and it's never offered.
@@danrichman1 You can start your own channel and test each and every vehicle in history that even reaches 70 mph.
With Hyundai, you’ll also have to pay the dealer markup.
While this is true for some Hyundai dealerships it's certainly not for all of them. I got an I6 Limited AWD in April from a dealer at MSRP when they were at their highest demand. That being said, I also contacted another dealer that had a 10k markup so YMMV.
@@brianmaupin9197yeah but Ionic6 doesn't qualify for ev tax bracket which is $7500 and that's alot of money
Dealers aren't making $$ on the 6 and the $7500 is a factory rebate, not a tax credit.
Once the Ioniq 6 gets the NACS plug later this year, it'll be amazing
A good and fair review. As an owner of M3 RWD, the Hyundai looks intriguing but the quality and availability of the Supercharger network really makes a difference when taking long trips. The infrastructure for alternatives in fast charging is not there yet. Agreed with the lack of comfort with respect to rough roads etc. But otherwise the comfort of the cabin, including for the driver is good. And the ability to use the base-model tech such as with Autopilot really makes driving comfortable and safer, especially in traffic on highways.
how often people drive EVs on a long distance road trips though? I always rent when i hit a road trip. my biggest beef with tesla is build quality. hyundais are rolls royce compared to teslas when it comes to fit/finish/quality. that matters to me more than having the network.
@@joec.5009 I drive mostly to work but it's good to know that I can drive far with fast charging network. Tesla wins as all in one EV.
@@joec.5009 Tesla has improved over the years. I have 2023 M3 and there are few gaps but acceptable unlike before. As it gets old you wouldn't care anymore then you will realize how good is their charging networks are. I avoid rental because I don't want to sit and touch a car that has been used by others. It was cleaned for sure but not disinfected. A friend of mine regretted buying Bolt because it's cheaper but worse charging network, he's selling his Bolt now to buy Tesla M3.
Do you do cardio? Cause man you didn't take a breath hahaha
Does the Ioniq6 have web browser? You tube? Net flex? My son just bought a model 3 June 1st 2023. Fed rebate is $7500 also $7500 (his salary is less than $53000) in calif.Calif clean air rebate Also he bought from tesla inventory so he got another $2400 off. So he only paid $23800 plus tax and license about $3600 for a new 2023. model 3 tesla
It doesn't have any of that. The Tesla is much more advanced in the tech area.
I am just waiting on the arrival of my Ioniq 6 RWD (in red). I chose it because of its much nicer interior, great range, the VtL capability, its excellent safety features on the road, and the styling looks which I much prefer over the Tesla
The dealer markups on everything except tesla need to stop
I hate when reviewers skip over winter when talking about range. In summer weather 300+ is great, but in the winter there is a good chance you will have to charge for any longer trips. We need to get where the winter range is 300+ imho.
17:12 spoken like someone who doesn’t know what it’s like to live in the Great Lakes Midwest where that 40mi range delta at full discharge, or 28mi at 10-80%, could be the difference between making an entire round trip to another large city and back home or having to stop and burn the unrenewable commodity of our time as we charge an electric vehicle which we HOPE will help transition us to a renewable energy future.
It's interesting that for Tesla cars, you pay for more range. However, for Hyundai, you actually pay more and get less range. The SE trim with AWD would probably be a better comparison because it has a more similar range and a starting MSRP of 46k.
Who else is getting classic Citroen design vibes from the Ioniq 6
Someone out there, might.
Yea… one is a great grocery grabber while the other one is a great daily + road tripper + movie theater + game room + drag racer + self driving + better warranty + way cheaper + …
Well done hyundai on making an ev better than most other companies, but model 3 is clearly the better choice here as it can do much more than the ioniq 6
Great explanation my friend. I'm a converted Tesla fan from long time Toyota Hybrid fan.
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With the white interior, the Tesla M3 does not look as cheap as with the dark interior. With dark interior it looks very cheap. No ventilated seats are a no-go for me. So the I6 is much better for me.
Looks is nothing when it gets old. The most important is the functionality. It's like comparing analog phone to smart phone. Tesla is smart phone constantly updating and with the best charging network.
@@TheTreb68 For me, the appearance is very important for my emotion when driving. I have to love the car inside and outside to be able to drive it with pleasure.
And Tesla unfortunately offers nothing for me in the interior. The I6 also has good software and gets regular OTA updates.
The charging infrastructure is very good where I live (2 minutes to a 150 kW and 8 minutes to a 300 kW charger) and the I6 charges faster than the Tesla.
Tesla is just too cheap for me and made without emotion or consideration for normal customer needs.
Biggest issue with all tesla models is the fact that they remove quite a big chunk of their potential customer base due to the layout of their dashboard. As they do not comply with vision standards recommended for the visual acuity and visual field needed for safe driving in Canada for drivers that are legally blind in one eye (must at least have 20/20 in the left eye). Thus the placement of the screen is out of eyesight of these "potential" customers. 9% of Canadians and close to 11% in the USA. They keep on missing the mark.
And battery degradation.
Battery degradation for 40000 miles Hyundai-1% Tesla MY -5% MS -7%
No one talks about this serious issue.
Always have aftermarket option for heads up display, although would take work or paying someone to install
@@robertt1336 but that is a discrimination towards these groups as standard cars don't need modification. They have been sighted by our regulatory bureau on this discrepancy. This is probably why our gov't has been enlarging our green hydrogen network as to offer more variety of cars for any kind of requirements. There are more hydrogen cars on the road than Tesla's.🤣🤣🤣🤣
And the extra thorn in Tesla's backside is the upcoming byd cars coming in a few months here in Canada.
I really want Hyundai to be the better car for the money. They do have a few advantages, to be sure, but the Tesla advantages of the seamless software, the super charger network, and the price (especially with rebates that Hyundai doesn't qualify for) still put Tesla as the hands down winner.
That said I REALLY like some things about the Hyundai, like vented seats, accurate range, and if true, superior ride and handling. They just aren't enough to overcome the rest.
Sadly for Hyundai and Kia they are at a severe disadvantage since they can't take advantage of the Federal tax credit.
hyundai needs to make it as a wagon and N version
Tesla has to do something about ride quality. Living in NYC, the roads are often horrible. You feel every single bump in the road. I drove a IONIQ 5 and wow the difference. Quiet, comfortable, and you dont feel like its rattling your brains out. I still love the tech more in Tesla and the supercharging network but if non EVs can solve the charging issues (should be soon since several companies are going with Tesla charging plugs next year) Tesla is in for a world of hurt.
It is not the first Hyundai electric sedan. That would be the 2019-2021 Ioniq sedan- which is a great car
The Hyundai gets just as much attention as an exotic supercar, says the guy who obviously doesn't like Elon.
Did you really just call the accelerator the “go pedal?”
I’ll stick with my 2021 Model 3 LR. Nice review, nonetheless.
The ioniq is too expensive for what it offers 💸💸💸
Still better than the Tesla.
@@JohnLee-db9zt lol no it's not.
@JohnLee-db9zt in some aspects it really is. But not overall. Especially for what it costs.
@@walex19 lol it is.
@@gabrielmoralesvelez Good that is, as you won't see as many on the roads. Teslas and KIAs are everywhere today.
The ioniq does have the option in navigation to show only Level 3 chargers as well, you just have to select it as a filter.
Hyundai ad basically, but the video betrays the technology advantage - and amusingly Edmunds admits this unequivocally in the related Tweet.
All is great until you want to recharge the thing... no supercharging for hyundais
I’m glad to have more options, but do we really. These legacy automakers hardly produce their EVs in any sort of quantity. This then empowers bad dealers to mark up the prices. I also laughed as nobody buys enhanced autopilot, just a talking point to make the price difference seem not so terrible. Anyway you can clearly see which company has an advertising budget 😂
US vs Korea.
Fixed Online pricing vs Dealership Markups
Let’s not forget Tesla has over 100 voice commands. I’ve had mine for 5 years and rarely touch the screen..the refresh will be even more awesome w heat and cooled seating standard as well as double pane glass. Those manufacturers with access to T charging it isn’t all T chargers. It’s a few at each station…newest in so Oregon 51 chargers and three are open to non Teslas. As soon as a better one is made with reliable charging network I’ll jump. Please no more gauges between driver and road….
ill go for hyundai!
Hyundai, Kia and Genesis electric vehicles charge port overheats. Research before purchase.
The Ioniq 6 is the Porsche Boxster of this decade. Compare the numbers...
Way better practical range
For me it wasn’t this close. Drove both and for me the Tesla is a much more well sorted car. It just did everything better than the Hyundai. Interesting that you tested the top of the line Ioniq against the mid-level M3. The Supercharger network for Tesla is light years ahead of the other networks for cars like the Ioniq. The Tesla home charger is more refined too should you go that route. The public must agree because Tesla EV sales are up 30% this year vs 11% for Hyundai. What other people don’t consider is that new features and refinements to Teslas happen with over the air software upgrades and that keeps all Teslas current and relevant. Hyundai still has its work cut out to be a serious contender. The biggest global EV threat to Tesla will be the Chinese EV’s.
I saw a trend in a lot of other reviews : dismissing the Tesla efficiency. "Well, who really drives more than 300 miles...".
Reality check : even for driving 100 miles a Tesla will use about 10 to 15% less kWh than any of its competitors. And being that you pay to charge the battery of your EV at a cost of $/kWh, guess what ? Tesla is always cheaper to drive, at least 10 to 15% cheaper than any of it's competitors. Compared to the top contenders (Ioniq 5, EV6, Polstar 2 the difference is above 25%). This fact, over the years of owning an EV, can become an important cost. That almost no one takes it in consideration.
They need to release a new gen M3 soon, current gen is getting old.
They are. Named project highland. May be out this year.
I prefer Ionic6 obviously but unfortunately it's not build in US so it doesn't qualify for ev tax bracket which is $7500 and also it goes through dealership and you know what that means, Mark ups and all bs that goes with stealerships. So tesla is a better buy
Just picked up the Ioniq 6.. Hyundai is giving you the $7500 and an additional $2500 for repeat customers
how about sales rankings
This is a true model 3 competitor! I'm excited to test drive it soon.
Let's range, harder to charge, Less practical, more expensive, slower, less technology, but it gets a better ranking than the M3 of a better ride quality wich is subjective
Uhh USB A has nothing to do with charging speed. lol
I don't think any other manufacturer's UI is even close to Tesla's.
No range is really important
I looked at a 6 today and its a nice car. Interior qualty is nice, I like that is has buttons still, but the cost ofthe limited model is 58k. Too much still IMO but better with the $7500 factory credit. The tesla Y and 3 are cheaper to lease but you can't get a hold of Tesla to ask any questions. Find a number to sales and its non existent. Try chatting online and its non existent, even at 1pm eastern time today. The Hyundai dealer was pretty awesome to deal with and he didn't try to sell me junk or service plans I don't need. I would say, don't buy a EV, only lease. The costs will continue to drop and like many tesla owners already, you could get buried in it if Musk decides to take 15% off the car overnight after partying all night. Lease for 3 years because tech will be totally different then.
No way the ioniq compared to tesla. Hyundai can't give them away. You can get an ioniq 6 on lease for $0 down and $99/month in certain regions. EV's in general are not ready and not useable for most americans.
19:20 - most people have ICE cars. Why use words like "familiar formula" in regards to Tesla. "Most" ppl have never seen a Tesla lol. Thats car reviewer speak. Its 2023, adapt.
19:49, "6 is better to drive in pretty much every way" Yet u mentioned perf and directness leant to Tesla. (agree 6 is better for non perf drivers)
/ Car obsessive / Tesla fan / wanting Hyundai to really push Tesla. Tesla has made the car to appeal to the most people possible. My hopes are Hyundai are the ones to make something more driver / sporty (my thing)
What was the price of the Tesla compared? Was it $58k vs $42k?
Stale? Lol. Ok well the Highland is about to come out. The 6 is expensive compared to the 3 per mile range.
Yes, stale, the sales numbers do not lie.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 and what are the sales numbers you're referencing to support your claim? Cheaper Model Y pricing certainly has cannibalized Model 3 sales yet overall Tesla sales are up, 40% in 2022. Likely another 40% in 2023.
@@zigadabooga 2023 01-03 Model 3 only 22703 in Europe. The much better Model Y 83340 units.
May 2023: Model 3 843, Model Y 4240, Ioniq5 909, Ioniq6 338, Fiat 500E 1594, Tesla Killa Jaguar Ipace 13, Kia EV6 471
Again Model Y demonstrates its superiority!
Thats why i sold my old dirty Model 3 from 2020 from Fremont and bought a identical clean and shiny new one MIC - Made in China. Should get it next tuesday.
Just to thumb my nose, to cook my snook on those Korean upstarts!
@@wolfgangpreier9160 Model 3 second best selling EV to Model Y is not stale. There has to be a number one and two. Both are Tesla.
@wolfgangpreier9160 so tesla> rolls royce
Model 3 seems like a steal in California with the additional 7.5K rebate. (25K total I read somewhere).
25k is only a theoretical price. The 7.5k is not a rebate but a tax credit. So the benefit of that varies from person to person. I just bought an ioniq 6, walked out the door for an SE long range that gets 261 miles of range for 40k on the dot. Right now Hyundai is providing a straight 5k discount on Ioniqs
$7500 (if you make enough) & $2500 in CA. Forget the "fuel savings" BS. You can also save if you pick one from existing inventory.
@@DiegoSanchez-cg7dr Most people don't benefit from the tax credit. You have to OWE more than $7500 in federal taxes to get it. Most people either get a refund or just owe a slight amount so the tax credit pretty much only benefits wealthy or upper middle class people
@@CarShopping101 That's 100% not true (and yes, I've bought a Tesla and did my taxes with a tax professional, and discussed this at length). The limitation is that you can't get back more than the total taxes you paid in one year. If your rebate would bring you below $0 owed one year, the remainder rolls over to the next year and you'll get it then.
@@CarShopping101Huh? That's completely and utterly false. Ask me how I know. You just made that up lol. You people...
Hopefully the Ioniq 6 won't suffer the now NHTSA-investigated ICCU/12V battery issue as my Ioniq 5 did. Hyundai is now repurchasing my car. While my wife loved the Ioniq and its looks are genuinely unique, it's less quick, less roomy and less efficient than our Model Y. There is no comparison between the NACS of the Tesla and the CCS of Hyundais and others. Until that changes and everyone else adopts the NACS, Tesla rules.
In Canada, the Teslas are a lot more expensive as i configure it, and has fewer features.
@robdc4829 life is sad in Canada 😔
model 3 is overpriced but I will admit the drive train is great
As an owner of one I would loooove to ditch mine but Tesla super charger is just too good
58K? Jesus, Hyundai.
I like him
Hyundai makes the best tank in the world so car? Be my guest lol
ioniq 6 :))
I currently drive a 2013 Sonata Hybrid and have purchased six Hyundai vehicles in the past...The interiors are absolute garbage do not last, junk, crap, cracked dash, replaced upholstery at 75k, plastic chrome trim flaked off, failed window motors/regulators, steering box replaced, seat belt failure, and now the right rear door will not open...I am finished with this company...Good luck...
The design is not so great from the side and behind the car . It’s probably a great car but if I had to pick it would be the Tesla model S no matter what anybody says they just do way more plus safety matters.
Make an electric car from the descent charges itself or a spare battery in the queue to use batteries.Charge the spare battery on the go.
after your tesla loses $20,000 in value in 8 months & 4000 miles due to " market forces".. You'll realize what an rip off they are and never buy another one.. GO HYUNDAI!! I did.. got a red Ioniq6 Ltd & ZERO regrets
I think a lot of this comes down to what you like. Fanboys on both sides will chatter off “The drag coefficient is 0.03% less…the charge time is 5% less…the screen lag is .5 seconds faster” but it comes down to what you like. You could say “This chick is blonde, tall at 5’11’, D cups, long legs, and is completely shaved.” And I would look at my 5’6” redheaded wife, with her freckles, A cups, and burning bush, and pick her every time. There’s more to cars than stats, and figures. I’ve owned a Model 3 Long Range, a Model S Ludicrous, and just totaled my Model Y Performance in a wreck. I loved them, but I’m about to purchase an Ionic 6 Limited. Charge network is not as great, and it has less range, but so what? I like it, so I’m buying one. Sometimes, no matter how hot the blonde is, you pick the cute redhead.
Ioniq 6 cost more than a Model Y😮 wtf