Mercury Powerhead Rebuild - 2.5L XR6

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @marcaustin
    @marcaustin 2 роки тому +7

    'Don't do this at home - but it's kinda fun'. Love it !! Thanks for taking the time to capture this on video. Very interesting

  • @ryanjames5799
    @ryanjames5799 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video, much appreciated. My 135 has 90 compression and about to take it apart and rebuild it.

  • @timothyengland3
    @timothyengland3 Рік тому +1

    Love watching your work

  • @mercman2.5
    @mercman2.5 2 роки тому +1

    I do a lot of these, always mic all rotating parts and dial bore to be sure, also take 320 and cross hatch skirts great engines. Enjoyed the video!!

  • @flatboat67
    @flatboat67 Рік тому +2

    rings wear out and then glazing. Ball hones are good if the cylinders arent out of round and theres no ridge. We used them at cosworth on the dfx. nice video

    • @ecrlot305miyayo
      @ecrlot305miyayo Місяць тому

      I agree though maybe he could’ve also included using some bore gauges to prove how out of round it is

    • @SmalltownBassin
      @SmalltownBassin  Місяць тому

      Motor is still running strong ma'am 🤯

  • @donniebelcher7214
    @donniebelcher7214 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video. I hate the fuel injection and oil injection. I love the old 2.4 and 2.5 carburetor motors.
    Aybe someday the outboards fuel injection system will be more like the automotive industry plug and play systems. Keep up the good video's I'm really into the shadow restoration job.

  • @elroysview
    @elroysview 5 місяців тому +2

    thanks for the video ima do this at home

  • @jolssonusa
    @jolssonusa 2 роки тому +2

    Love your videos. Even though you claim it's not a "how to" thing it's still very informative. I love mercury 2 stroke motors and I have three old bass boats with one 1995 black max 150 xri, one 1994 200 pro max and a regular 90 hp with carbs from 2007. I would like to get a 135 optimax that I can renovate and possibly replace the 90 hp for my 19 foot tracker.
    Many thanks

    • @SmalltownBassin
      @SmalltownBassin  Рік тому +2

      Awesome man! My goal is to show you that it's ok to do these things yourself when it's appropriate. For more serious issues I would always recommend taking it to a machine shop or equally qualified person for repair. But...if you don't try you'll never know what you're capable of.

  • @olejrgenkjhl5043
    @olejrgenkjhl5043 3 місяці тому

    Awesome engine!! 😁💪🏼🥳

  • @danryan3146
    @danryan3146 4 місяці тому

    I have the 150XL SWB Saltwater Series and was able to remove the heads, pistons and cage bearings then honed the cylinders without removing the power head.

  • @daveyt4802
    @daveyt4802 Рік тому

    Cool stuff! Wonder how the same motor (block) makes 150-250 horsepower. Also wonder why 2 stroke low compression motors respond best with high octane fuels...

  • @cwilliams4227
    @cwilliams4227 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for taking the time to video this. Very informative.
    I have the 135 v6 and after following the service manual through the process I discovered that my Plastic gear on the crank is stripped. No service manual info on just changing the gear.
    I am hoping you can answer a question for me. Can the gear be swapped out while the crank is in place? Maybe pulling the reed block and lower half and accessing the crank without pulling heads, pistons etc.
    I would really appriciate your thoughts.
    Thanks

    • @SmalltownBassin
      @SmalltownBassin  Рік тому +2

      Thanks and yes, you can replace the gear. I doubt it can be done without splitting the block though. Maybe but doubtful. You're better off to remove the oil injection and premix. Just my opinion.

    • @cwilliams4227
      @cwilliams4227 Рік тому +1

      @@SmalltownBassin Thanks for the reply. I think you are right. The oil injection system may need to go.

  • @larrylafferty-ul7px
    @larrylafferty-ul7px Рік тому +1

    Thanks for your video

  • @daveyt4802
    @daveyt4802 Рік тому

    Is there some sort of flush for the water jackets? Looks like hard water deposits too...

  • @KrzyKanuck81
    @KrzyKanuck81 Рік тому

    I just have a quick question ..im in the middle of tearing my 98 merc 200 efi down , and i cant seem to get the front case off. I see you laid down the engine and you took off 3 bolts around the crank ...my motor is still on the swivel..Do i have to fully remove my power head to get to those bolts ? Thanks 👍🇨🇦

  • @1Longranger
    @1Longranger 2 роки тому +5

    Using a ball hone on a two stroke... I must have been taught differently!

    • @askikr79
      @askikr79 2 роки тому

      What were you taught?

    • @1Longranger
      @1Longranger 2 роки тому +3

      @@askikr79 A triple stone hone finished with a gentle polished chamfering of the transfer and exhaust ports. Ball hones tend to smash into the ports in not a good way. If it works for you, more power to you. All the best.

    • @SF-rl7hl
      @SF-rl7hl 2 роки тому +2

      Triple hones on outboard are asking for trouble! I know 40 plus years work.

    • @askikr79
      @askikr79 2 роки тому +1

      @@SF-rl7hl So, youre sayin the Util Tarian guy above is incorrect about his concern that the ball hones will damage the exhaust ports?

    • @daddski1
      @daddski1 8 місяців тому

      @@SF-rl7hl agree. After 50 plus years i will not use triple hones. They hit the ports and break off, they are the ones that gouge the ports. Note he did i think 7 strokes per cylinder which cleans up well. Yo do NOT want to hone into twenty or more. All you do then is screw it up and needs bored then because you took too much metal out. always clean and de-grease and make sure ports do not require work, if so... decide if you are good enough or take to a pro just to be sure.

  • @bakervinci163
    @bakervinci163 10 місяців тому +1

    What are you using with your hose to degrease ?

  • @copelandrobinson
    @copelandrobinson 6 місяців тому +1

    So all I gotta do to remove the reed block is those 8 bolts I ain’t gotta take off the carbs what about the linkages for the carbs just pop off that one that joins them all together? I’m having same problem with poor idle and didn’t see that part on your other vids.

    • @SmalltownBassin
      @SmalltownBassin  6 місяців тому

      Correct. 8 7/16in bolts, bleed lines, throttle linkage to cam must be removed to take off the reed plate.

    • @copelandrobinson
      @copelandrobinson 6 місяців тому +1

      @@SmalltownBassin thanks! Your channel is best one out here for these motors!

  • @outdoorswithjv1616
    @outdoorswithjv1616 Рік тому

    I bought a bass boat with a bad motor I was wondering if it’s cheaper to rebuilt it then to buy a new motor?

  • @kellyklocke8183
    @kellyklocke8183 11 місяців тому +1

    Did you replace the bad plastic oil pump drive gear on the crank? Or delete oil injection

    • @SmalltownBassin
      @SmalltownBassin  11 місяців тому

      Deleted pump with block off kit. I leave the crank gear in for stuffing.

    • @kellyklocke8183
      @kellyklocke8183 11 місяців тому +1

      @SmalltownBassin thought someone had told me not good on my 93 175 efi tp delete injection. Something about oiling that premix wouldn't get to? Cant wuite remember

    • @SmalltownBassin
      @SmalltownBassin  11 місяців тому +1

      That's not true. The fuel and oil is premixed in the VST before being distributed to the fuel rail for injection. Dont overcomplicate it. Doesnt matter where the mix occurs as long as it occurs before injection. The only down side to delete in all cases is the oil consumption efficiency loss. The OEM design is throttle controlled and only mixes at high ratios at WOT. Premix burns that volume of oil 100% of the time e.g. 50:1, 40:1, 32:1, etc. Whatever good health calls for.

    • @kellyklocke8183
      @kellyklocke8183 11 місяців тому

      @@SmalltownBassin thanks for the clarification

    • @kellyklocke8183
      @kellyklocke8183 11 місяців тому

      @SmalltownBassin this 93 175 xri i have only has 280 hours on it. I wonder why they don't want it turning over 5800 rpm. You would think it could handle more. I thought I read that excessive rpm can iverheat the plastic oil pump gear ect. Maybe if i delete the injection i could run it harder?

  • @bakervinci163
    @bakervinci163 Рік тому +1

    I hydro locked a 2023 300 r at 20 hours. I ran it for an out 10 seconds after water came in. It has not been scoped. Without knowing the damage, how much do you think it’s worth? A new one is 21k

    • @SmalltownBassin
      @SmalltownBassin  Рік тому

      Without knowing the damage its only worth what visible non damaged parts are worth to you. Could have a warped block and useless even if it looks buildable. Russian roulette if you ask me. Gotta open her up and find out.

    • @bakervinci163
      @bakervinci163 11 місяців тому

      @@SmalltownBassinthat’s what I needed to know. If it was hot for less than a minute, could the block warp?

  • @frankturano6665
    @frankturano6665 2 роки тому +1

    @Small town Bassin' can you send me a link or put a link in the video for all of the parts needed to remove the rev limiter. you speak of the cdi electronics, what does the consist of? switch box, coils?

    • @SmalltownBassin
      @SmalltownBassin  2 роки тому

      www.promarineusa.com
      Yes, that is the type of ignition im talking about. Stator, trigger, switchbox(s), coils.

  • @MikeJones-qp5tu
    @MikeJones-qp5tu 2 роки тому +1

    Funny I came across this. I just did my 97 Yamaha Pro V 150. Heard and noise and piston had a small crack in it. Replaced piston, all new rings, honed, oiled alot and put it back together. Sounds better than it did when I first bought the boat. Did it because it was either I do it and spend little $$$ or it was going to sit for a LONG time

    • @SmalltownBassin
      @SmalltownBassin  Рік тому

      Nice work and thanks for watching!

    • @joshuahartwell903
      @joshuahartwell903 Рік тому

      Just rebuilt mine, but now 3 cylinders not firing,i do have spark.

    • @MikeJones-qp5tu
      @MikeJones-qp5tu Рік тому

      @joshuahartwell903 check compression after rebuild? New spark plugs? Our other boat was giving me all kinds of grief. Plugs were maybe a few months old but just from tuning and them getting a little fouled from running too rich, put new plugs in and boat fired right up

    • @daddski1
      @daddski1 8 місяців тому

      @@joshuahartwell903 trigger, powerpack or ground to a pack more than likely if it happened immediately.

  • @TERRYSMITH-vu6er
    @TERRYSMITH-vu6er Рік тому +1

    MAY I ASK WERE ARE YOU LOCATED I GOT A 50HP 2 STROKE 2005 NEED YOUR HELP

  • @robertborg7951
    @robertborg7951 Рік тому +1

    Morning sorry about my English
    I have a 150hp 2.5l i want to know what's the proper size of the thread flywheel nut can someone tell?? Thanks

    • @SmalltownBassin
      @SmalltownBassin  Рік тому

      I honestly don't know. Should be easy to look up though.

  • @maxwellgill9450
    @maxwellgill9450 Рік тому +2

    I’ve got a 2.5l 175 that needs rebuilt. Would you be interested?

  • @fritz4939
    @fritz4939 7 місяців тому +2

    I would love to re-build Mercury outboard engines. Greetings from Germany.

  • @yusufbera3948
    @yusufbera3948 Рік тому +1

    Hello how u i need to know what size socket u use on the conrod

  • @AlexGarcia-ew2fv
    @AlexGarcia-ew2fv 2 роки тому +14

    I by passed my oil injection system on my Mercury 90hp...I run old school 50:1 pre mix...I've been fixing motors for 30yrs...honestly I don't care how Well Engineered a 2 cycle motor is....I don't trust >> Oil Injection at all...

    • @royhummert7281
      @royhummert7281 2 роки тому

      Same on my Yamaha ox66. Only problem with newer 2 stroke.

    • @SF-rl7hl
      @SF-rl7hl 2 роки тому

      I've got 17 years on my 2005 150 XL Merc no problem with oil injection system works like new from factory. You have know how take care of an outboard. To many novices with money and No brains.

    • @daddski1
      @daddski1 8 місяців тому +1

      @@SF-rl7hl friend, does not matter how well you take care of a merc with that neopreme to metal gear set. it WILL sooner or later eat itself. They want it to after 7 to 10 years so that you buy a new engine

    • @danryan3146
      @danryan3146 5 місяців тому +1

      I have the same motor (2003)...no problems until now. Oil injection pump went bad. My compression is now down to 90psi on one bank. Switching to pre-mixed after I replace rings and hone the cylinders.

  • @sean7193
    @sean7193 Рік тому

    what year is this one? are you still running it?

  • @DirtMcGert29054
    @DirtMcGert29054 2 роки тому

    I have a nerd and a Yamaha with oil injection and always pre mix 200:1 just to be safe and also ,omiter how much oil I have to add to the tank , at least then I have an idea if something in the auto oil is failing

    • @Jameswrightdavid
      @Jameswrightdavid 2 роки тому

      I think you mean 50:1

    • @terrorofdemons1168
      @terrorofdemons1168 2 роки тому +1

      @@Jameswrightdavid no. Those oil injections over time will supply less and less oil to the gas and the motor suffers from lack of lubrication until the motor fails. So he’s adding oil to the gas to supplement what the oil injection isn’t providing anymore. Oil injection is a motor killer

    • @ericvaughn8741
      @ericvaughn8741 2 роки тому +1

      @@Jameswrightdavid I premix the fuel at 200 to 1 and still use the oil injection , the yamaha has a multi stage oil pump so it idles at 200:1 , and gradually goes up to 50:1

    • @1Longranger
      @1Longranger 2 роки тому

      Most Yamaha precision blend systems fail to maximum oil flow if the pump linkage breaks off (I had this happen). Never had an issue with them and they are easy to calibrate and adjust.
      I modified the plastic linkage with a brass sleeve which eliminates that weak point.

    • @DirtMcGert29054
      @DirtMcGert29054 2 роки тому

      @@terrorofdemons1168 it doesn’t have “oil injectors” it just dumps oil into the VST

  • @chig9357
    @chig9357 Місяць тому

    cool man!

  • @kennyschopperz
    @kennyschopperz 2 роки тому +4

    Been doing 2strokes my whole life. Hone it, wash it, if scoring catches my finger, it's gotta go to the machine shop, or sleeve it. If not, micrometer the two, may not have to file the rings, and then.....send that bitch. But there is always a catch, and that's usually the crank. Oh...and premix all the way home. Only time I was EVER instructed to go 100:1 was on the track.
    Great video BTW!

  • @doesntmatter3068
    @doesntmatter3068 2 роки тому

    What is this outboard (complete powerhead mid and lower) worth when the powerhead is completely rebuilt by
    a professional shop?

    • @bakervinci163
      @bakervinci163 Рік тому

      Good question. Gotta be 65-70 % of retail

  • @lornekofman2163
    @lornekofman2163 Рік тому +2

    Annoying thing.
    You explained what happened to the oil pump gear and did not show the replacement
    Please reply

    • @SmalltownBassin
      @SmalltownBassin  Рік тому

      Sorry. I deleted the oiler by using the quicksilver block off kit. I cleaned up the gear on the crank and left it in for stuffing.

  • @jerrygriffin7629
    @jerrygriffin7629 2 роки тому +1

    At 200 hours my 1994 XRI 200 had the piston ring anti rotation pin fall out and destroy the motor, there is not a Mercury on my boat today

    • @SF-rl7hl
      @SF-rl7hl 2 роки тому

      I've had my 2005 Mercury 150 XL since new. Never! I repeat Never had a problem. it still has over 120 lbs compression all 6 cy. Best outboard I've ever owned thats a Fact!

    • @jerrygriffin7629
      @jerrygriffin7629 2 роки тому

      @@SF-rl7hl Great so they fixed a known problem which doomed many Mercury 2.5 liter motors in the mid 1990's

    • @SmalltownBassin
      @SmalltownBassin  2 роки тому +1

      That's why I peen the aluminum around the pin on rebuilds. Common practice to prevent that from happening. To each their own.

  • @anthonygray8613
    @anthonygray8613 2 роки тому

    you wanna rebuild mine 00 xr6 no compression on 5 in 6

    • @SmalltownBassin
      @SmalltownBassin  2 роки тому

      Maybe. PM on the Smalltown bassin Facebook page.

  • @demetresichinava5088
    @demetresichinava5088 Рік тому

    👍👍👍👍

  • @alexmoller1101
    @alexmoller1101 6 місяців тому +1

    Hahahaha don't do this at home...... but it's fun. Does this have a nicaseal sleeves I. It?

  • @jonnyasava9992
    @jonnyasava9992 Рік тому

    I have one of these motors. Getting estimates for up to 10 k to rebuild this. Is that normal? Is that worth it?

  • @happyman5389
    @happyman5389 Рік тому +2

    Damn i tried it at home

  • @1philliph
    @1philliph 9 місяців тому

    90psi on all cylinders.
    Maybe whats worn out is the compression gauge😂

  • @AFloridaMan727
    @AFloridaMan727 2 роки тому +1

    I have an ‘01 and an ‘03 merc 150 at home and was 100% going to try this until you said not to

  • @fishin11
    @fishin11 8 місяців тому

    Mercury’s absolutely biggest idiot move, plastic gear for oil pump!! That was an unbelievable idiot design!! Rebuilt to many to count. Touch about 62-6400 RPM’s and you toasted your motor.

  • @fishydubsfishing6516
    @fishydubsfishing6516 4 місяці тому

    These 2 cycle motors are so bad for the environment there should be a mandatory phase out on these

  • @veoverse4286
    @veoverse4286 8 місяців тому

    Does every cylinder has it own transverport or do some cylinders share them?